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Title: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: rootwyrm on Mon, 10 June 2013, 17:13:06
http://www.leetgion.com/products.php

Yes. That is a Cherry MX Blue on a mouse.
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 10 June 2013, 17:14:57
Yeah, came out like over a year ago...

Edit - I think Leetgion is owned by Thermalright. They should stick to heatsinks imo :p
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: linziyi on Mon, 10 June 2013, 17:15:26
:( only ONE switch?
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 June 2013, 17:22:28
I can't remember if I actually read this or just thought it would be cool but someone needs to make a TV remote control with mx switches!!
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 10 June 2013, 21:41:57
I wonder what double-clicking is like.
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: inteli722 on Mon, 10 June 2013, 21:43:05
I wonder what double-clicking is like.

Well, just normal doubleclicking feels normal because every other button is a regular microswitch. the only MX switch is on the side for the attack button.
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: PointyFox on Mon, 10 June 2013, 21:57:46
What's a gion and what's leet about it?
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 10 June 2013, 21:59:54
What's a gion and what's leet about it?

Mx switch makes it leet bro
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: Lastpilot on Tue, 11 June 2013, 07:24:35
"The Omron Japan D2F-F Micro Switch has long been the top choice of custom mouse modders due to superior quality, durability and feel. The crème de la crop of mouse switches."

Wow, seriously?

I guess you could somehow program the MX switch to be left click...But even so it would still be a bit awkward.

Edit: ooooh project legendary seems kind of cool :D
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: Tym on Tue, 11 June 2013, 07:27:43
There is a modded mouse on here somewhere, MX switch for left click, think it was on a death adder; the guy did 2 different mice.
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: davkol on Tue, 11 June 2013, 08:15:39
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33318
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=32582

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19067
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33036
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: vun on Tue, 11 June 2013, 08:18:07
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33318
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=32582

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19067
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33036

This. My initial reaction to this thread was "this is still news to people?"
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Tue, 11 June 2013, 08:24:45
Micro switches ain't as bad as domes. There's no mechanical mouse market because there's no other kind. Well except touch mice.

I still want a cherry mouse just cause though. Also novelty buttons.
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: Bullveyr on Tue, 11 June 2013, 09:48:27
"The Omron Japan D2F-F Micro Switch has long been the top choice of custom mouse modders due to superior quality, durability and feel. The crème de la crop of mouse switches."

Wow, seriously?
Looks like I originally read over that because that's a rather odd choice for a main button switch, with 150g the actuation force is about twice as high as the usually used switches.

Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: Lanx on Thu, 13 June 2013, 12:04:01
as the guy who mods cherry switches into mice... i can say that the micro switches are HORRIBLE for ergonomic/pressure reasons. You don't notice the extreme force that is needed to activate it on a force per centimeter area until you actually use a mx switch, i'm just 10 years ahead of the mice curve =p pretty sure you'll start modding soon.
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: fateswarm on Sat, 15 June 2013, 07:04:30
Uhm, I'm pretty sure microswitches used on high quality Logitech mice are better for the job, and more expensive than even Topre switches.

Though MX should be better compared to the horrendous switches they use on the sides usually. They often restrict the good ones only for the main Left and Right keys.

I envisioned a keyboard could use microswitches but I suppose the pricing would be hilarious and it will probably need a mechanism to complement the switches with a more 'touch typing friendly' tactile event.
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: inteli722 on Sat, 15 June 2013, 09:10:48
I envisioned a keyboard could use microswitches but I suppose the pricing would be hilarious and it will probably need a mechanism to complement the switches with a more 'touch typing friendly' tactile event.

http://mykeyboard.co.uk/microswitch/

Been done!
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: fateswarm on Sun, 16 June 2013, 12:45:53
I envisioned a keyboard could use microswitches but I suppose the pricing would be hilarious and it will probably need a mechanism to complement the switches with a more 'touch typing friendly' tactile event.

http://mykeyboard.co.uk/microswitch/

Been done!
He appears to have noticed the problem I assumed it would be having. Typing would need a more rich tactile event than a mouse switch, so they probably need another supporting mechanism of some sort even if on their own on mice they are probably superior to any keyboard switch tech in robustness and effectiveness.
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: ImperfectLink on Fri, 28 June 2013, 20:33:25
Cool idea even if it isn't new.
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: Thimplum on Tue, 09 July 2013, 11:41:12
I think it would be cool to have a mouse with jailhouse blues on all the buttons.
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: listokei on Mon, 12 August 2013, 03:43:06
Looks cool!

I want to use the opportunity to try.  :thumb:
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: Wall Street on Mon, 12 August 2013, 06:34:40
As nice as the feel of Cherry switches can be, I would imagine that 4 mm of travel is much longer than you want for mouse 1 and mouse 2 buttons.
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: Grim Fandango on Mon, 12 August 2013, 06:42:31
The mouse is not too heavy, ambidextrous design, Avago ADNS 9500 sensor (meh). Looks alright.

But honestly, I do not think Cherry MX blue switches on a mouse are that good of an idea. You want the low travel distance and low actuation force. With mice, you are doing all kinds of things (moving it around, scrolling, using side buttons , LMB, RMB). You do not want pushing one button to interfere with anything else you are doing. This is the main reason why actuation should be fast and easy. The ideal switch for a mouse is entirely different that the ideal switch for a keyboard imo.

If you want more feedback on your mouse switches, just go for huano instead of omron switches. When it comes to side buttons, I still think I would prefer even cheap clicky low actuation force buttons to a Cherry MX blue.
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 16 August 2013, 07:10:26
Haven't you heard? Apperently Blues are the best for gaming because they click.
(Oh marketing)
Title: Re: And you thought Cherry MX switches only went in keyboards...
Post by: czarek on Wed, 11 September 2013, 14:56:57
I've seen black MX used as power and reset buttons on PC cases.