can you believe they didn't use a RAM spec that hasn't been launched?!
for real this thing looks like if the G4 cube and the subwoofer from those harmon kardon dildo speakers got together and make a mistake
Interesting... I thought this was a troll post at first... But HOLY **** IT IS A CAN!!!
as in, a drunken 'mistake'
as in, how i was conceived :llama: :llama:
as in, a drunken 'mistake'
as in, how i was conceived :llama: :llama:
I am starting to understand why you've come across as an insecure bastard in our previous encounters...
You should really put aside that view of yourself... it's self defeating...
chillax bro... no one's judging you...
as in, a drunken 'mistake'
as in, how i was conceived :llama: :llama:
I am starting to understand why you've come across as an insecure bastard in our previous encounters...
You should really put aside that view of yourself... it's self defeating...
chillax bro... no one's judging you...
Except me.
But that's because I'm judging you for an award. Best use of will smith avatars.
as in, a drunken 'mistake'
as in, how i was conceived :llama: :llama:
I am starting to understand why you've come across as an insecure bastard in our previous encounters...
You should really put aside that view of yourself... it's self defeating...
chillax bro... no one's judging you...
Except me.
But that's because I'm judging you for an award. Best use of will smith avatars.
2 of my fan club members in 1 thread... wh00t.... you guys gonna make this one interesting?
Or am I putting too much pressure on ya'll to 'perform.
as in, a drunken 'mistake'
as in, how i was conceived :llama: :llama:
I am starting to understand why you've come across as an insecure bastard in our previous encounters...
You should really put aside that view of yourself... it's self defeating...
chillax bro... no one's judging you...
Except me.
But that's because I'm judging you for an award. Best use of will smith avatars.
2 of my fan club members in 1 thread... wh00t.... you guys gonna make this one interesting?
Or am I putting too much pressure on ya'll to 'perform.
That's creepy. Let the fans come to you but never invite them in.
But no, I actually dig the looks, too. Won't buy one, but that doesn't denigrate it.
as in, a drunken 'mistake'
as in, how i was conceived :llama: :llama:
I am starting to understand why you've come across as an insecure bastard in our previous encounters...
You should really put aside that view of yourself... it's self defeating...
chillax bro... no one's judging you...
I think most of your analysis on things outside of your rabid fanboism is quite good.
stop projecting your mainstream ideasRiiiiiiight. :P
as in, a drunken 'mistake'
as in, how i was conceived :llama: :llama:
I am starting to understand why you've come across as an insecure bastard in our previous encounters...
You should really put aside that view of yourself... it's self defeating...
chillax bro... no one's judging you...
I think most of your analysis on things outside of your rabid fanboism is quite good.
stop projecting your mainstream ideas of legitimate birth and family structure onto me. im glad i grew up weird.
This could have been a serious discussion.
In a way I am excited about the mac pro because like many I've been dying for a refresh for some time now, however I am also saddened by the lack of expandability. I would have preferred the original slot filled design for internal expandability. Also the fact that apple claims it is the "most expandable mac" kinda ticks me off because in current form it doesn't even support PCI express 3.
I suppose, but I would have still preferred a revision of the previous model rather than a completely new design. Not saying I don't like it ... I just don't like it as much :))In a way I am excited about the mac pro because like many I've been dying for a refresh for some time now, however I am also saddened by the lack of expandability. I would have preferred the original slot filled design for internal expandability. Also the fact that apple claims it is the "most expandable mac" kinda ticks me off because in current form it doesn't even support PCI express 3.
well, i think they mean thunderbolt 2 will make up for the lack pci 3.
Since they're not going to let you upgrade graphics cards, what else are you going to put in that would utilize pci 3.
the thunderbolt goes through the pci 3 bus anyway..
I suppose, but I would have still preferred a revision of the previous model rather than a completely new design. Not saying I don't like it ... I just don't like it as much :))In a way I am excited about the mac pro because like many I've been dying for a refresh for some time now, however I am also saddened by the lack of expandability. I would have preferred the original slot filled design for internal expandability. Also the fact that apple claims it is the "most expandable mac" kinda ticks me off because in current form it doesn't even support PCI express 3.
well, i think they mean thunderbolt 2 will make up for the lack pci 3.
Since they're not going to let you upgrade graphics cards, what else are you going to put in that would utilize pci 3.
the thunderbolt goes through the pci 3 bus anyway..
I'll probably still pick one up on launch day. If only it made coffee and had different color options lolShow Image(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2011/09/braun-coffee.jpg)
can you believe they didn't use a RAM spec that hasn't been launched?!
for real this thing looks like if the G4 cube and the subwoofer from those harmon kardon dildo speakers got together and make a mistake
Wait.... 10GRAND?! No way, even with twelve cores, dual GPUs, and 32GB of RAM (or whatever outrageous number this is)... For more than 2k cheaper you can have yourself an even better rig, and it doesn't look like a trashcan! Two 3TB HDDs, 512GB SSD boot drive, Two 6 core Xeons, 32GB of DDR3 ECC memory, AMD FirePro W9000 (workstation graphics card), 1500 watt PSU, and a Corsair 800D to house it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TjQYkzD.png)
Wait.... 10GRAND?! No way, even with twelve cores, dual GPUs, and 32GB of RAM (or whatever outrageous number this is)... For more than 2k cheaper you can have yourself an even better rig, and it doesn't look like a trashcan! Two 3TB HDDs, 512GB SSD boot drive, Two 6 core Xeons, 32GB of DDR3 ECC memory, AMD FirePro W9000 (workstation graphics card), 1500 watt PSU, and a Corsair 800D to house it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TjQYkzD.png)
Wait.... 10GRAND?! No way, even with twelve cores, dual GPUs, and 32GB of RAM (or whatever outrageous number this is)... For more than 2k cheaper you can have yourself an even better rig, and it doesn't look like a trashcan! Two 3TB HDDs, 512GB SSD boot drive, Two 6 core Xeons, 32GB of DDR3 ECC memory, AMD FirePro W9000 (workstation graphics card), 1500 watt PSU, and a Corsair 800D to house it.Keep in mind that the macpro is a workstation. Additionally (and here's the feature I like) it features very fast PCIE-based SSD storage. Depending on capacity, I can see the bulk of the price going there.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TjQYkzD.png)
Wait.... 10GRAND?! No way, even with twelve cores, dual GPUs, and 32GB of RAM (or whatever outrageous number this is)... For more than 2k cheaper you can have yourself an even better rig, and it doesn't look like a trashcan! Two 3TB HDDs, 512GB SSD boot drive, Two 6 core Xeons, 32GB of DDR3 ECC memory, AMD FirePro W9000 (workstation graphics card), 1500 watt PSU, and a Corsair 800D to house it.Keep in mind that the macpro is a workstation. Additionally (and here's the feature I like) it features very fast PCIE-based SSD storage. Depending on capacity, I can see the bulk of the price going there.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TjQYkzD.png)
Can anyone link me to more info? I saw pictures of the WWDC thing, but they weren't very forthcoming on features, and their current page isn't very forthcoming
https://www.apple.com/mac-pro/
I can imagine third parties coming out with either paint or stickers to change the colour. I'll have a yellow one please :)
Size-wise, it is great that Apple can pack a heftier punch into a case a fraction of the size of the old one.
Upgradeability-wise - the strong point of the old Mac Pro was its upgradeability. The one and only Mac that is fully user-upgradeable (aside from the old PowerMacs from yesteryear, of which I have 2 btw).
I'm wondering whether the Mac mini will soon be reborn in cylindrical guise.
I'd say this thing is pretty cool..
If only it was user upgradable... I honestly wouldn't mind the price which will probably be 10k for the 12core :'(
No one can ride 2x graphics cards for the 4 years it'll take for another refresh.
and no ddr 4, when ddr4 will definitely launch in 2 years.
Do you think they'll launch a Can 2 in 2 years?
can you believe they didn't use a RAM spec that hasn't been launched?!
for real this thing looks like if the G4 cube and the subwoofer from those harmon kardon dildo speakers got together and make a mistake
I had one of each of those!
I can imagine third parties coming out with either paint or stickers to change the colour. I'll have a yellow one please :)
Size-wise, it is great that Apple can pack a heftier punch into a case a fraction of the size of the old one.
Upgradeability-wise - the strong point of the old Mac Pro was its upgradeability. The one and only Mac that is fully user-upgradeable (aside from the old PowerMacs from yesteryear, of which I have 2 btw).
I'm wondering whether the Mac mini will soon be reborn in cylindrical guise.
it's basically a ROUND macbook pro.. laptop style components with a big core cooler.
Great idea.. but I want harddrives and real raid damn it... UNLESS this thing supports good hardware raid over thunderbolt.. hm... that would be nice..
I can imagine third parties coming out with either paint or stickers to change the colour. I'll have a yellow one please :)
Size-wise, it is great that Apple can pack a heftier punch into a case a fraction of the size of the old one.
Upgradeability-wise - the strong point of the old Mac Pro was its upgradeability. The one and only Mac that is fully user-upgradeable (aside from the old PowerMacs from yesteryear, of which I have 2 btw).
I'm wondering whether the Mac mini will soon be reborn in cylindrical guise.
it's basically a ROUND macbook pro.. laptop style components with a big core cooler.
Great idea.. but I want harddrives and real raid damn it... UNLESS this thing supports good hardware raid over thunderbolt.. hm... that would be nice..
i think that's where they are going with it. all the expansion will be done through thunderbolt. i've seen some good stuff from it already like external thunderbolt PCI E GPUS. its a cool idea but i've been pretty disappointing with apple since Steve died. I feel like quality of their products are degrading after every release. Who knows though, maybe they just need some time to rebound.
I can imagine third parties coming out with either paint or stickers to change the colour. I'll have a yellow one please :)
Size-wise, it is great that Apple can pack a heftier punch into a case a fraction of the size of the old one.
Upgradeability-wise - the strong point of the old Mac Pro was its upgradeability. The one and only Mac that is fully user-upgradeable (aside from the old PowerMacs from yesteryear, of which I have 2 btw).
I'm wondering whether the Mac mini will soon be reborn in cylindrical guise.
it's basically a ROUND macbook pro.. laptop style components with a big core cooler.
Great idea.. but I want harddrives and real raid damn it... UNLESS this thing supports good hardware raid over thunderbolt.. hm... that would be nice..
i think that's where they are going with it. all the expansion will be done through thunderbolt. i've seen some good stuff from it already like external thunderbolt PCI E GPUS. its a cool idea but i've been pretty disappointing with apple since Steve died. I feel like quality of their products are degrading after every release. Who knows though, maybe they just need some time to rebound.
You say that, but the 3G and 3GS are two of the most hideous devices ever made.
I can imagine third parties coming out with either paint or stickers to change the colour. I'll have a yellow one please :)
Size-wise, it is great that Apple can pack a heftier punch into a case a fraction of the size of the old one.
Upgradeability-wise - the strong point of the old Mac Pro was its upgradeability. The one and only Mac that is fully user-upgradeable (aside from the old PowerMacs from yesteryear, of which I have 2 btw).
I'm wondering whether the Mac mini will soon be reborn in cylindrical guise.
it's basically a ROUND macbook pro.. laptop style components with a big core cooler.
Great idea.. but I want harddrives and real raid damn it... UNLESS this thing supports good hardware raid over thunderbolt.. hm... that would be nice..
i think that's where they are going with it. all the expansion will be done through thunderbolt. i've seen some good stuff from it already like external thunderbolt PCI E GPUS. its a cool idea but i've been pretty disappointing with apple since Steve died. I feel like quality of their products are degrading after every release. Who knows though, maybe they just need some time to rebound.
You say that, but the 3G and 3GS are two of the most hideous devices ever made.
no i agree with you completely. i'm not saying EVERYTHING steve jobs laid his hands on was gold. I've just encountered more bugs in the last year with my apple products than ever. Mountain lion is a god damned mess and i've been through 3 iphone 5s due to faulty sleep buttons.
Show Image(http://www.kotzendes-einhorn.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/mac-pro-darth.jpg)
did they say it's 2 x 6 core, or 1x 12core
did they say it's 2 x 6 core, or 1x 12core
The interface for the Mac Pro page is horrid, but they do show you the inside of the thing and it has a single socket.
The interface for the Mac Pro page is horrid, but they do show you the inside of the thing and it has a single socket.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hMwjfWJ.png)
"offering up to 12 cores of processing power"
up to is the key word(S) here. $$$$
The interface for the Mac Pro page is horrid, but they do show you the inside of the thing and it has a single socket.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hMwjfWJ.png)
"offering up to 12 cores of processing power"
up to is the key word(S) here. $$$$
They show a single socket, but they'd deploy dual hex. Reading the fine print on the image, we get:
Intel Xeon E5-2420 Sandy Bridge-EN 1.9GHz (2.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1356 95W Six-Core Server Processor BX80621E52420
Series: Intel Xeon E5 Family
L3 Cache: 15MB
Manufacturing Tech: 32 nm
64 bit Support: Yes
Model #: BX80621E52420
Item #: 9B-19-117-278
NewEggBusiness Retail Price: $404.99
Through...
Intel Xeon E5-1660 Sandy Bridge-EP 3.3GHz (3.9GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Server Processor BX80621E51660
Series: Intel Xeon E5 Family
L2 Cache: 6 x 256KB
L3 Cache: 15MB
Manufacturing Tech: 32 nm
Model #: BX80621E51660
Item #: 9B-19-117-273
NewEggBusiness Retail Price: $1,086.99
Prices above are for ONE chip, so TWO would be four times as much (Apple Pricing ModelTM.)
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
The interface for the Mac Pro page is horrid, but they do show you the inside of the thing and it has a single socket.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hMwjfWJ.png)
"offering up to 12 cores of processing power"
up to is the key word(S) here. $$$$
They show a single socket, but they'd deploy dual hex. Reading the fine print on the image, we get:
Intel Xeon E5-2420 Sandy Bridge-EN 1.9GHz (2.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1356 95W Six-Core Server Processor BX80621E52420
Series: Intel Xeon E5 Family
L3 Cache: 15MB
Manufacturing Tech: 32 nm
64 bit Support: Yes
Model #: BX80621E52420
Item #: 9B-19-117-278
NewEggBusiness Retail Price: $404.99
Through...
Intel Xeon E5-1660 Sandy Bridge-EP 3.3GHz (3.9GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Server Processor BX80621E51660
Series: Intel Xeon E5 Family
L2 Cache: 6 x 256KB
L3 Cache: 15MB
Manufacturing Tech: 32 nm
Model #: BX80621E51660
Item #: 9B-19-117-273
NewEggBusiness Retail Price: $1,086.99
Prices above are for ONE chip, so TWO would be four times as much (Apple Pricing ModelTM.)
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
im seeing everyone losing their minds over 12 cores but most fail to realize that the price of it is going to be through the roof. most consumers will have to settle for a single 6.
I wonder if it will generate the copies in the PC world as the original Mac Pro did.
I wonder if it will generate the copies in the PC world as the original Mac Pro did.
The interface for the Mac Pro page is horrid, but they do show you the inside of the thing and it has a single socket.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hMwjfWJ.png)
"offering up to 12 cores of processing power"
up to is the key word(S) here. $$$$
They show a single socket, but they'd deploy dual hex. Reading the fine print on the image, we get:
Intel Xeon E5-2420 Sandy Bridge-EN 1.9GHz (2.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1356 95W Six-Core Server Processor BX80621E52420
Series: Intel Xeon E5 Family
L3 Cache: 15MB
Manufacturing Tech: 32 nm
64 bit Support: Yes
Model #: BX80621E52420
Item #: 9B-19-117-278
NewEggBusiness Retail Price: $404.99
Through...
Intel Xeon E5-1660 Sandy Bridge-EP 3.3GHz (3.9GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Server Processor BX80621E51660
Series: Intel Xeon E5 Family
L2 Cache: 6 x 256KB
L3 Cache: 15MB
Manufacturing Tech: 32 nm
Model #: BX80621E51660
Item #: 9B-19-117-273
NewEggBusiness Retail Price: $1,086.99
Prices above are for ONE chip, so TWO would be four times as much (Apple Pricing ModelTM.)
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
im seeing everyone losing their minds over 12 cores but most fail to realize that the price of it is going to be through the roof. most consumers will have to settle for a single 6.
what do you mean most consumers... most consumers settle for a payment plan on a macbook.. HAHAHAHAHA
or they get an acer.
With only external expandability, central thermal vent and in that size, I would say that the Mac Tube is actually the spiritual successor to the Mac Cube (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Mac_G4_Cube).
Well... the Cube also had an optical disc drive.
Build your own now for under $5,000!
2x Xeon E5-2620 hex-core CPU (That's the 12 cores.)
ASUS Z9PE-D8 ATX Workstation motherboard
64GB DDR3-1866 Ripjaw Z Series RAM
2x Zalman 120mm Low-Noise CPU Coolers
2x Radeon HD 7970 GPU (Expandable to Quad PCIe 3.0, but not on the Mac.)
2x 512GB SATA III 6.0Gb/s Samsung Pro Solid State Drives (SSD)
2x 4TB WD RAID Edition SATA III 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Enterprise Hard Drives (Not available on the Mac.)
Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Burner (Not available on the Mac.)
1200W Gold & Crossfire-Certified PSU
Antec 900 USB 3.0 Mid-Tower Case*
TOTAL PRICE: $4,682.85
*Or put it into the prettiest ATX case you like, add full custom water-cooling, and still be under $7500.
Pics below (or it didn't happen.)
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
Build your own now for under $5,000!
2x Xeon E5-2620 hex-core CPU (That's the 12 cores.)
ASUS Z9PE-D8 ATX Workstation motherboard
64GB DDR3-1866 Ripjaw Z Series RAM
2x Zalman 120mm Low-Noise CPU Coolers
2x Radeon HD 7970 GPU (Expandable to Quad PCIe 3.0, but not on the Mac.)
2x 512GB SATA III 6.0Gb/s Samsung Pro Solid State Drives (SSD)
2x 4TB WD RAID Edition SATA III 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Enterprise Hard Drives (Not available on the Mac.)
Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Burner (Not available on the Mac.)
1200W Gold & Crossfire-Certified PSU
Antec 900 USB 3.0 Mid-Tower Case*
TOTAL PRICE: $4,682.85
*Or put it into the prettiest ATX case you like, add full custom water-cooling, and still be under $7500.
Pics below (or it didn't happen.)
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
Not ECC or WS video cards because this round thing is a desktop, not a pro workstation. But, sure. Change the mobo, CPUs, RAM, and GPUs and add a RAID card and you have a workstation. Also, FYI, it is the mobo that defines the need for/support of ECC. Desktop mobos don't, and that Xeon is targeted at core-intensive desktop use.
Also, I didn't bother speccing an OS because that is going to be a personal choice, but MS or Apple OS costs are similar, and anyone who would bother building such a system is going to be able to run OSX if they want. I'd run Linux with Win7 and OSX in virtual machines -- there are certainly enough cores to go around. No whining about 'Hackintosh' difficulties; that horse is well out of the barn.
In the end, only benchmarkers and people who run pro software would NEED so many cores anyhow. And they would be buying a machine to fit an app, not the other way around. I wouldn't mind more cores for virtualization on my desk or more for my rendering machine. And the rendering apps run on Windows or OSX, sometimes only Windows.
The point of these shopping lists is to see what the core cost of the hardware is, because anything above that is the premium paid for industrial design and hardware/software integration. So when the hardware listed above sells for $15,000 you know you are paying ten grand for the value of the ID and integration. As Input Nirvana points out, those things ARE worth something in the world, and maybe they are worth the premium to you. It is just good to know what the premium IS.
OBTW, I was an Apple employee for nine years, so the above is analysis, not bashing. If I added a case from Rubbermade, THAT would be bashing.
Besides, I think a translucent Acrylic cylinder would be cooler than a trash can!
- Ron I samwisekoi
this won't work...
and lots of wasted space. Mac design is better :D
you're gonna be blowing dust all over the thing.. it'd be really hard to clean once you have wires.
AND i highly doubt this thing will fit in 12", you probably need 15" at least for good clearance on heatsinks..
It wasn't even difficult.
(Attachment Link)
ATX 'Can' System design by samwisekoi
ATX motherboard with room for dual Xeons and dual GPUs.
1200W PSU (smaller would be easier, but the design can fit a huge PSU.)
2x SATA hard drives
2x SSD
Full-size BD/DVD/CD burner (slot-load would be nicer.)
3x 80mm bottom intake fans (filtered)
1x 200mm top exhaust fan
140mm PSU fan (isolated)
I/O, power and monitor connectors in back
USB and audio connectors on top
Cherry MX Brown power switch on top (QWERKeys Power Keycap optional)
12" diameter by 13.50" tall. Should be 1" (2cm) above surface for intake air.
Size and speed of top exhaust fan can be adjusted to yield positive or negative air pressure. It is negative in this configuration.
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
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It would fit nicely in this fine Rubbermaid product: http://www.mscdirect.com/product/05004833 (http://www.mscdirect.com/product/05004833)
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It wasn't even difficult.
(Attachment Link)
ATX 'Can' System design by samwisekoi
ATX motherboard with room for dual Xeons and dual GPUs.
1200W PSU (smaller would be easier, but the design can fit a huge PSU.)
2x SATA hard drives
2x SSD
Full-size BD/DVD/CD burner (slot-load would be nicer.)
3x 80mm bottom intake fans (filtered)
1x 200mm top exhaust fan
140mm PSU fan (isolated)
I/O, power and monitor connectors in back
USB and audio connectors on top
Cherry MX Brown power switch on top (QWERKeys Power Keycap optional)
12" diameter by 13.50" tall. Should be 1" (2cm) above surface for intake air.
Size and speed of top exhaust fan can be adjusted to yield positive or negative air pressure. It is negative in this configuration.
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
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It would fit nicely in this fine Rubbermaid product: http://www.mscdirect.com/product/05004833 (http://www.mscdirect.com/product/05004833)
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How does this affect Samwisekoi giving Input Nirvana $10,000 for a clear plastic tube? (delivery included)
this won't work...
and lots of wasted space. Mac design is better :D
you're gonna be blowing dust all over the thing.. it'd be really hard to clean once you have wires.
AND i highly doubt this thing will fit in 12", you probably need 15" at least for good clearance on heatsinks..
Wow, 10 person years of industrial design and custom PCBs resulted in a better design than half an hour with Sketch-up and off-the-shelf components? Who would have imagined such a thing?
Also, filters. Heard of them?
Also Xeon heatsinks. Installed many of them, have you? Designed for 1u and 2u chassis.
Finally, you go BUY one of the new Macs, and I'll build mine, and in 30 days we'll have a benchmark challenge.
Stay consistent my friend.
- Ron | samwisekoi
this won't work...
and lots of wasted space. Mac design is better :D
you're gonna be blowing dust all over the thing.. it'd be really hard to clean once you have wires.
AND i highly doubt this thing will fit in 12", you probably need 15" at least for good clearance on heatsinks..
Wow, 10 person years of industrial design and custom PCBs resulted in a better design than half an hour with Sketch-up and off-the-shelf components? Who would have imagined such a thing?
Also, filters. Heard of them?
Also Xeon heatsinks. Installed many of them, have you? Designed for 1u and 2u chassis.
Finally, you go BUY one of the new Macs, and I'll build mine, and in 30 days we'll have a benchmark challenge.
Stay consistent my friend.
- Ron | samwisekoi
This is what Apple did last time Jobs left...
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7374/9063603035_be9b2262e1_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26633567@N04/9063603035/)
:rolleyes:
This is what Apple did last time Jobs left...
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7374/9063603035_be9b2262e1_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26633567@N04/9063603035/)
:rolleyes:
Look! A Poker! Before its time!
Find and refurb one of THOSE!
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
p.s. You don't OC Xeons. That isn't the point of that processor family.
you can't run the operating system without some teeth gnashing. people always leave that part out. i would absolutely run OS X on commodity hardware* if it were as easy as installing it on apple hardware.
*except for my macbook air. my preciousssssssss
you can't run the operating system without some teeth gnashing. people always leave that part out. i would absolutely run OS X on commodity hardware* if it were as easy as installing it on apple hardware.
*except for my macbook air. my preciousssssssss
No teeth were gnashed to accomplish this. (A retail copy of Mac OSX was purchased, however!)
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Purchased and unmodified copy of OSX running under Linux Mint.
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)
you can't run the operating system without some teeth gnashing. people always leave that part out. i would absolutely run OS X on commodity hardware* if it were as easy as installing it on apple hardware.
*except for my macbook air. my preciousssssssss
No teeth were gnashed to accomplish this. (A retail copy of Mac OSX was purchased, however!)
(Attachment Link)
Purchased and unmodified copy of OSX running under Linux Mint.
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)
I can build a kick-ass hackintosh for $1k that's rack-mountable and expandable. Why would I buy this over-priced and locked down trash can?
At least with an "over-priced and locked down trash can" you can be sure that this and every foreseeable version of OS X will Just Work on it.
With a Hackintosh there is a concern that Apple will remove support for a particular esoteric piece of hardware with any minor update.
Perhaps you exaggerate slightly.
You can spend $10,000 on a Mac, but you can also spend that much on a Windows PC.
You can also spend considerably less on a Mac.
that's not commodity hardware, it's a VM. and for whatever little (imo) it's worth, that's still against EULA and requires workarounds unless i am mistaken?
That still wouldn't run you $10k. Unless we were talking solid gold water blocks
that's not commodity hardware, it's a VM. and for whatever little (imo) it's worth, that's still against EULA and requires workarounds unless i am mistaken?
Sure it is a VM, but it is a fully-virtualized VM, so the OS can't tell. Looks like bare metal to the OS and up. Installation involved (a) insert Genuine Apple Install CD and (b) follow Apple directions for a vanilla install.That still wouldn't run you $10k. Unless we were talking solid gold water blocks
I am frankly amazed that no one has done this yet. Little golden trashcans...
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