I've been using the Olivetti GMK caps on my Leopold and have never had an issue removing the caps. I guess you could try the method you suggested but I've never encountered the problem that you suggested. Maybe someone else has had this issue and can suggest a solution?
Edit: I didn't want to assume. Maybe you're just a great person and wanted to help out with the MOQ. If you took that the wrong way then I apologize but I can't tell if people are being serious or not sometimes.
Lol it's cool!!! Anyway, I know for a fact that cherry ABS doubleshots are tighter than thick PBT. I guess I'll wait until someone else sees my post :)
PS - Thanks!
Why are Cherry ABS caps so difficult to pull off?!?!?! I know, I know, that's just how they are, but I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to put them on some spare switches a few times to loosen them up or if this would be a waste of time. Granted my plate allows for removable switch tops, but I opened up at least three switches on my Poker when pulling off six caps and I don't like it :(
Edit - I need to know before my purple GMK mods arrive lol
I have noticed that caps seem to hold to the stem a lot firmer to my clear stems than any other stems I have. Which would be blues, browns, and reds. But I noticed this with both ABS and PBT caps. But I haven't pulled any switch housings apart and my clears are PCB mount.
Clears have some funny indent in the stem that seems to act as a locking latch. Now that you mention it I do remember having a terrible time pulling the caps off of the WEY EK2000 I got. I am sure the caps had never been removed ever from it before me. I think I even pulled a few whole switches out of the PCB on that one.
Uh-oh, I've got some brand new Clears coming in soon--will have to investigate!
This only happens with brand new cherry ABS doubleshots. Thick PBT can sometimes cause one side to pop out, but I've never had the whole switch top pull off like this with any other kind of keycap including used cherry ABS doubleshots.
Stop using glue when fitting them keycaps, and they are not hard to take back off :p
New keycaps are often just tight, but that's a good thing. Better than them flying off when typing because they are too loose.
lol I agree with you about it being a good thing. It's less that they're difficult to remove and more that they're pulling my switch tops off when I pull of the caps (I'm very patient and gentle when doing this). I guess I'll have to keep the purple mods on forever, thanks :p
Why are Cherry ABS caps so difficult to pull off?!?!?! I know, I know, that's just how they are, but I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to put them on some spare switches a few times to loosen them up or if this would be a waste of time. Granted my plate allows for removable switch tops, but I opened up at least three switches on my Poker when pulling off six caps and I don't like it :(
Edit - I need to know before my purple GMK mods arrive lol
I have noticed that caps seem to hold to the stem a lot firmer to my clear stems than any other stems I have. Which would be blues, browns, and reds. But I noticed this with both ABS and PBT caps. But I haven't pulled any switch housings apart and my clears are PCB mount.
Incredible! I'm using Ergo Clears, so that probably explains why not too many others understand what I'm talking about. Anyway, this totally makes sense. Thank You :)
You can touch the plate of a Filco. You can even touch the controller while it's plugged in. I used a filco without a top cover for a while and quite often accidentally touched the controller and plate. Nothing happened.Clears have some funny indent in the stem that seems to act as a locking latch. Now that you mention it I do remember having a terrible time pulling the caps off of the WEY EK2000 I got. I am sure the caps had never been removed ever from it before me. I think I even pulled a few whole switches out of the PCB on that one.
Do you mean like this? Sorry for the grainy photo.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UlkBplS.png)
Every colour switch I have has an indent like this : white, blue, red and dark grey as pictured.
When I did my ergo-clear mod, the clears I got were super tight compared to any other switch/stem I've used
I have 5 Clear boards (all plate mounted), and have never had any problems... Strange.
I concur on the clear stems thing.
I used the same caps on several keyboards before, and the clear switches are the ones that seem impossibly tight. Pulled the top housing off a couple of times (probably didn't help that the latches are probably looser from having opened them several times), but I'm pretty sure there's something going on with the clear stems thats not happening the other switches.
Why are Cherry ABS caps so difficult to pull off?!?!?! I know, I know, that's just how they are, but I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to put them on some spare switches a few times to loosen them up or if this would be a waste of time.
I know this was on the last page, but since there were mentions of it, I thought I'd comment. Modern clear switch stems are much tighter on any caps, so it's a lot harder to pull the off.
Now most people do not know this, but SP PBT caps are the tighest caps for any stems. If you combine that with new clear switches... it's over, you're never getting them off (assuming you can even get them on in the first place).
Why are Cherry ABS caps so difficult to pull off?!?!?! I know, I know, that's just how they are, but I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to put them on some spare switches a few times to loosen them up or if this would be a waste of time.
I know this was on the last page, but since there were mentions of it, I thought I'd comment. Modern clear switch stems are much tighter on any caps, so it's a lot harder to pull the off.
Now most people do not know this, but SP PBT caps are the tighest caps for any stems. If you combine that with new clear switches... it's over, you're never getting them off (assuming you can even get them on in the first place).
Thanks for your input, and OMG that's scary!!!
I'm referring to PBT specifically from SP, and modern clear stems. Any other PBT caps or stems would be fine though.
Why are Cherry ABS caps so difficult to pull off?!?!?! I know, I know, that's just how they are, but I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to put them on some spare switches a few times to loosen them up or if this would be a waste of time.
I know this was on the last page, but since there were mentions of it, I thought I'd comment. Modern clear switch stems are much tighter on any caps, so it's a lot harder to pull the off.
Now most people do not know this, but SP PBT caps are the tighest caps for any stems. If you combine that with new clear switches... it's over, you're never getting them off (assuming you can even get them on in the first place).
Thanks for your input, and OMG that's scary!!!
I put my nyan set (a sp pbt set) on my nearly new clear springs. I think I mounted on a cherry set before the nyan but other than that, none. They weren't that bad for me to pull off.
MX Clear. Looked the same as an MX Black switch I compared it to. But perhaps the cross part was a tad thicker itself vs. the one on MX Black.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/piviYWs.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/grSXpzE.jpg)
(I can put these into a separate thread).
This whole issue with Clears is kind of interesting and doesn't really make sense to me. I just took some calipers to Clears and found them to be the same size on their x and y axes (axis labelMore) as Browns, Reds, and Blacks, or at least close enough that it shouldn't make a difference. That said, I did notice that the Clears and Blacks were a little thicker on the bottom half of the y axis than the top (bottom half on the y axis, not the z axis), a little thicker than the y-axis on Reds and Browns. So, logically, if caps seem to fit tighter, it can't be because they're a little bigger. If that were the case, that problem should also befall Black switches, but it seems it doesn't.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/eXJdbue.jpg)
I'm happy this thread has been started
i always had heard that clears were harder then normal to get off...and then i actually got mine and it was true
Not as bad as when i first got them, but by far still the most difficult. they like to give a little fight
Because they know we be popping key caps to open them up for different springs. They scared.
Thanks for making this thread Photoelectric!!!
Now you guys got me paranoid about whats going to happen when I try to take these keycaps off my clears :eek: :P
Now you guys got me paranoid about whats going to happen when I try to take these keycaps off my clears :eek: :P
You'll be fine. I've never had any real issues.
I just broke a stem from a key cap from pulling too hard on a clear switch...:(
Have you successfully pulled the CMYK Yellow shifts off of a board with clears? Did it require little to no effort??
Ok so perhaps it's not new Clears but just different batches of Clears? Seems unlikely though. And there's an easily discernible difference between my used Clears and brand new Clears I just received. Seems unlikely that Cherry would be changing the mold back and forth--unless they have more than one factory producing Clears with different machinery.
Do you think sticking the keyboard in the refrigerator for a while would make the keycaps easier to remove? Would this harm the keyboard in any way? If not, I'll give it a try.