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Title: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:19:35: Would anyone be interested in a keyboard set that fades colors in any direction? (top to bottom, left to right, etc) My wife had the idea and made this mock up on her own so I told her I'd toss it out there and see what people think.

(http://i.imgur.com/V9XYYag.jpg)

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Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: bueller on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:23:56: That is an awesome idea. I'm a photographer so I'd a love grey-to-white set.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: mashby on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:25:53: Very interesting. I'd be interested, depending on the color(s).
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:27:02: Colors could be anything really, as long as they make a nice gradient.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: Sent on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:28:14: Depending on the colors, I'd be interested in a set.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:29:12: This sounds really good. Really different. I'd be in depending on color choice or choices. Is there a font or are these just blanks?
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: PointyFox on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:29:39: (http://i40.tinypic.com/20uze3b.png)
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:32:09: Quote from: Latin00032 on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:29:12
This sounds really good. Really different. I'd be in depending on color choice or choices. Is there a font or are these just blanks?

Just seeing if the concept is appealing, then blanks or legends and profile can be decided upon later. If they were DSA blanks then you could fade up or down or even left to right if enough keys were included. If it had legends then you would be restricted to one configuration for the most part.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: Sent on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:32:48: Quote from: Latin00032 on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:29:12
This sounds really good. Really different. I'd be in depending on color choice or choices. Is there a font or are these just blanks?

I think I'd actually prefer blanks for this set. :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:34:20: Quote from: Sent on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:32:48
Quote from: Latin00032 on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:29:12
This sounds really good. Really different. I'd be in depending on color choice or choices. Is there a font or are these just blanks?

I think I'd actually prefer blanks for this set. :eek:

I see what you mean. Especially for an idea like this.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:35:17: Yeah definitely might be in for something like this, depending on the colors.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: bueller on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:35:46: Yeah I'd totally agree on this, legends will ruin the effect IMHO.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:36:29: Quote from: danielucf on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:32:09
Quote from: Latin00032 on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:29:12
This sounds really good. Really different. I'd be in depending on color choice or choices. Is there a font or are these just blanks?

Just seeing if the concept is appealing, then blanks or legends and profile can be decided upon later. If they were DSA blanks then you could fade up or down or even left to right if enough keys were included. If it had legends then you would be restricted to one configuration for the most part.

True. I was thinking that might be the case.

You probably can't pick too many color choices either.

Maybe like a top three. Put it to a vote or something like that.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:39:06: Awesome idea! Don't think I have seen this anywhere before. Sideways - yes. Top to bottom - no.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: tricheboars on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:40:48: i would prefer it to be simpler like just black to white,grey to black, etc. also, dark should be on top no? wouldnt it look more natural like that? i dont know why but it does to me.

also is this even possible to do with molded plastic?
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:42:54: I could see this turning out very interesting.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: Sent on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:45:55: I was thinking a "sunset" or "sunrise" look might be kind of cool. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/xenoso/Smilies/couch.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: pwolfe on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:46:35: I'd be interested in a grey scale set
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:48:34: I think this is a very cool idea.
I'm interested, but not in a rainbow
more of 2 shades of one color, or one color to white.

:) nice!
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:52:40: Well if we do DSA blanks we could potentially do a lot of different color sets because hitting the higher tiers would be easy. For full size and TKL six different colors would be good, and for 60% five colors. Maybe this is a better idea than I thought it'd be for those who like DSA blanks.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: gnubag on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:57:57: I would be in for a black to white fade or rainbow set for 60%
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 02 July 2013, 23:03:40: DSA Blanks :eek: so down
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: UniClown on Tue, 02 July 2013, 23:48:43: if the gradient is top to bottom we would have to take into account the fact that some keyboard layouts do not have the top row.

Edit: also, left to right has similar issues 60%/tkl/full. Where does the gradient end if keyboards are different sizes?
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: PointyFox on Tue, 02 July 2013, 23:52:04: The gradient can also be radial.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: UniClown on Tue, 02 July 2013, 23:52:56: Quote from: PointyFox on Tue, 02 July 2013, 23:52:04
The gradient can also be radial.

woah.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 03 July 2013, 00:02:55: also pbt would be awesome.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: Sent on Wed, 03 July 2013, 00:04:14: Quote from: PointyFox on Tue, 02 July 2013, 23:52:04
The gradient can also be radial.

(http://i.imgur.com/mM5Cc.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: calavera on Wed, 03 July 2013, 00:05:40: Thick PBT blanks with vertical fade gets my vote. Just makes sense.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: sth on Wed, 03 July 2013, 01:00:01: well... i actually type on blanks but you COULD do legends that are slightly lighter/darker than the color of the keys. stealthy.

dang it we don't have a ninja icon
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Wed, 03 July 2013, 01:19:23: What if it were pbt dyesub, so the gradient is smooth through the keys? I know it's possible, but I'm not sure if any of the cap producers can do that as of now.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: calavera on Wed, 03 July 2013, 01:36:32: How about making the fonts edged in.. kind of a compromise between full fonts and blanks.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 03 July 2013, 01:36:58: this is a nice idea but I suspect the cost will be pretty high (the more colors the more work for the molders).

wouldn't be easier to do a black on white PBT and have people dye color the keys on their own? The more you keep them in the hot dye solution the darker they get. This way everyone can use the color they prefer. Also experienced users might help in the process.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 03 July 2013, 01:51:59: I added a poll. Not sure if I did it right since it is late and I'm kinda tired. Off to bed HAPPY VOTING

Quote from: Matt3o on Wed, 03 July 2013, 01:36:58
this is a nice idea but I suspect the cost will be pretty high (the more colors the more work for the molders).

wouldn't be easier to do a black on white PBT and have people dye color the keys on their own? The more you keep them in the hot dye solution the darker they get. This way everyone can use the color they prefer. Also experienced users might help in the process.

Since it would be DSA blanks having six colors doesn't matter, if one row was 13 keys and we sold 40 sets then we would be at the 520 price point tier which would be pretty cheap. The only keys that would be slightly more expensive would be anything larger than 1x size.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: Sent on Wed, 03 July 2013, 02:09:58: I want like...three of those options. :|
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 03 July 2013, 02:28:24: Quote from: Sent on Wed, 03 July 2013, 02:09:58
I want like...three of those options. :|

It might be possible, but we need to start somewhere.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: Sent on Wed, 03 July 2013, 03:05:32: Quote from: danielucf on Wed, 03 July 2013, 02:28:24
It might be possible, but we need to start somewhere.

I know. :( I just couldn't pick which option. Frankly, I'm fine with any of them.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: bueller on Wed, 03 July 2013, 03:24:24: Here's a template I made up for the Black/Grey to White. Will knock up some more when I'm home as using paint at work is killing me. Need to work on the gradient as well, not entirely happy with it at the moment. Part of me actually think it would be better not fading completely to white, would prefer a slightly greyer tone for the top row.

(http://i.imgur.com/dbi7D8d.png)
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 03 July 2013, 03:39:25: Quote from: bueller on Wed, 03 July 2013, 03:24:24
Here's a template I made up for the Black/Grey to White. Will knock up some more when I'm home as using paint at work is killing me. Need to work on the gradient as well, not entirely happy with it at the moment. Part of me actually think it would be better not fading completely to white, would prefer a slightly greyer tone for the top row.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dbi7D8d.png)

This is fantastic and I will buy any set that's DSA!
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 03 July 2013, 03:49:55: Yes, I think dark grey to almost grey would look fantastic. I'm also far more in favour of a horizontal gradient.

Dare I say it..........

Shades of Grey?
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: bueller on Wed, 03 July 2013, 03:53:54: Quote from: stoic-lemon on Wed, 03 July 2013, 03:49:55
Yes, I think dark grey to almost grey would look fantastic. I'm also far more in favour of a horizontal gradient.

Dare I say it..........

Shades of Grey?

Hahaha I can see it now! The Geekhack "Five Shades Of Grey Group Buy", minus the S&M!
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: SeriouSSpotS on Wed, 03 July 2013, 07:35:29: This is a cool idea.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 03 July 2013, 09:33:06: Anything with purple works for me!
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: bueller on Tue, 09 July 2013, 10:43:43: Put together another mock up, this time using % values off a grey card. More than happy to help with this Dan if it means it going through, the more I look at these the more I want a set!

Been thinking about fading the colours left to right as well but I'm just not sure it will work as well. All the different sized keys would make it look a mess, at least when you do it top to bottom you have the rows to keep everything looking tidy.

(http://i.imgur.com/kSQ1ppT.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/URiFFXo.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 09 July 2013, 12:58:23: Took the poll. If this happens, will this be ABS or PBT?
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Wed, 10 July 2013, 08:18:45: Definitely "interested" in a fade design. Cannot commit to buy, but definitely an interesting/appealing design choice.

edit: what about instead of "white to color," "black to color?" Or, "grey to color?" Is there something that necessitates the use of a "white" as one of the ends of the gradient?
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: pandather on Thu, 11 July 2013, 12:29:07: Left to right won't work well, at all, due to a staggered layout and bigger sized keys... The space bar would look way off... Though it'd be fine on something like an ergodox
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 11 July 2013, 13:18:36: I think this fade thing would also look awesome with military colors like in the Commando 23 Group Buy

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45655.0

Light grey, into military green into some rusty brown or something :)
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 11 July 2013, 21:36:11: Quote from: bueller on Tue, 09 July 2013, 10:43:43
Put together another mock up, this time using % values off a grey card. More than happy to help with this Dan if it means it going through, the more I look at these the more I want a set!

Been thinking about fading the colours left to right as well but I'm just not sure it will work as well. All the different sized keys would make it look a mess, at least when you do it top to bottom you have the rows to keep everything looking tidy.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kSQ1ppT.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/URiFFXo.jpg)

Looks pretty good and white to black is currently winning the poll. I do think I agree with what some people said and we should do an almost white grey fade to almost black like your mockup. I'll try and email Melissa at SP to get some quotes.

Any chance we would want double keys of the 1.25 through 2.75 sizes in both colors to do a top down or bottom up fades?

Also do we want a 5 color fade for 60% boards or a 6 color fade for other boards and people can just decide what to leave off for 60% boards?
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: gnubag on Thu, 11 July 2013, 21:43:12: Quote from: danielucf on Thu, 11 July 2013, 21:36:11
Quote from: bueller on Tue, 09 July 2013, 10:43:43
Put together another mock up, this time using % values off a grey card. More than happy to help with this Dan if it means it going through, the more I look at these the more I want a set!

Been thinking about fading the colours left to right as well but I'm just not sure it will work as well. All the different sized keys would make it look a mess, at least when you do it top to bottom you have the rows to keep everything looking tidy.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kSQ1ppT.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/URiFFXo.jpg)

Looks pretty good and white to black is currently winning the poll. I do think I agree with what some people said and we should do an almost white grey fade to almost black like your mockup. I'll try and email Melissa at SP to get some quotes.

Any chance we would want double keys of the 1.25 through 2.75 sizes in both colors to do a top down or bottom up fades?

Also do we want a 5 color fade for 60% boards or a 6 color fade for other boards and people can just decide what to leave off for 60% boards?

you could make a the 6th row a solid color and sell it seperate with the other keys you need for a tkl or full size keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: Sent on Thu, 11 July 2013, 21:56:46: Quote from: danielucf on Thu, 11 July 2013, 21:36:11
Looks pretty good and white to black is currently winning the poll. I do think I agree with what some people said and we should do an almost white grey fade to almost black like your mockup. I'll try and email Melissa at SP to get some quotes.

Any chance we would want double keys of the 1.25 through 2.75 sizes in both colors to do a top down or bottom up fades?

Also do we want a 5 color fade for 60% boards or a 6 color fade for other boards and people can just decide what to leave off for 60% boards?

Personally, I'd much prefer a 5 color fade for 60% boards but I can see it making sense to do a 6 color for everyone else. And as long as there's a 1.75 right shift I'm happy. >_>

Quote from: gnubag on Thu, 11 July 2013, 21:43:12
you could make a the 6th row a solid color and sell it seperate with the other keys you need for a tkl or full size keyboard.

This.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 11 July 2013, 22:20:09: Quote from: gnubag on Thu, 11 July 2013, 21:43:12
you could make a the 6th row a solid color and sell it seperate with the other keys you need for a tkl or full size keyboard.

That was what I was thinking when I did up the design, figured people could go with a full white set for the top row and it would still keep with the theme.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 11 July 2013, 22:25:03: i really like the first original mockup actually
hope there is a set of just that :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: bazh on Fri, 12 July 2013, 09:25:27: I'm in for a set from something (like pink maybe) to purple
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: SeriouSSpotS on Fri, 12 July 2013, 09:28:46: Quote from: bazh on Fri, 12 July 2013, 09:25:27
I'm in for a set from something (like pink maybe) to purple

Interesting idea
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: meiosis on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:26:01: ROYGBIV

Would be a horizontal instead of inclining vomit board
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: reiuorw on Sat, 13 July 2013, 10:41:30: Quote from: bazh on Fri, 12 July 2013, 09:25:27
I'm in for a set from something (like pink maybe) to purple

same here
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: Tarzan on Sat, 13 July 2013, 20:58:16: Light blue to dark purple.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 14 July 2013, 21:41:04: Cream to brown would be super!
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 15 July 2013, 00:00:45: I asked for some pricing information so we can get an idea on what a set of these might cost.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: bueller on Mon, 15 July 2013, 00:12:40: Quote from: danielucf on Mon, 15 July 2013, 00:00:45
I asked for some pricing information so we can get an idea on what a set of these might cost.

Excited!
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: Sent on Mon, 15 July 2013, 00:37:42: Quote from: danielucf on Mon, 15 July 2013, 00:00:45
I asked for some pricing information so we can get an idea on what a set of these might cost.

Excellent. Most excellent.

(http://static.themetapicture.com/media/funny-gif-asian-guy-thumbs-up.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: Kempher on Thu, 18 July 2013, 01:22:54: I agree with the majority, keep these blank. But none the less, it looks like a pretty sweet set, and if the price isnt to bad then i'll be in for red or orange.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: knifebunny on Thu, 18 July 2013, 23:18:56: I voted for white/blue, im getting excited about the possibilities of this set :~)
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: bueller on Mon, 29 July 2013, 07:50:03: Quote from: danielucf on Mon, 15 July 2013, 00:00:45
I asked for some pricing information so we can get an idea on what a set of these might cost.

Any word from SP regarding pricing Dan?
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 06 August 2013, 00:38:38: Quote from: bueller on Mon, 29 July 2013, 07:50:03
Quote from: danielucf on Mon, 15 July 2013, 00:00:45
I asked for some pricing information so we can get an idea on what a set of these might cost.

Any word from SP regarding pricing Dan?

Since we want blanks I got per size pricing. I need to plug numbers into a spreadsheet and I can drum up some price tiers.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: bueller on Tue, 06 August 2013, 00:39:53: Quote from: danielucf on Tue, 06 August 2013, 00:38:38
Quote from: bueller on Mon, 29 July 2013, 07:50:03
Quote from: danielucf on Mon, 15 July 2013, 00:00:45
I asked for some pricing information so we can get an idea on what a set of these might cost.

Any word from SP regarding pricing Dan?

Since we want blanks I got per size pricing. I need to plug numbers into a spreadsheet and I can drum up some price tiers.

Sweet! Not usually a fan of blank sets but this has me super excited!
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Mon, 19 August 2013, 09:56:35: What if: black to grey, white legends?
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 20 August 2013, 20:57:02: Quote from: ferociousfingerings on Mon, 19 August 2013, 09:56:35
What if: black to grey, white legends?

Maybe in R2 we can do legends, for now to test the concept we are going to do one set of blanks. I'm waiting on mock-ups at the moment.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: MTManiac on Wed, 21 August 2013, 17:26:42: color me excited for this!
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 11 September 2013, 00:04:44: looking at the added suggestions - looks like white to purple is pretty popular ;)

heck, black to violet would look great too
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: bueller on Wed, 11 September 2013, 00:58:33: I would probably be interested in both greyscale and purple->white. The purple would probably look great with the GMK mods.

Need any help with this Dan?
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: bueller on Fri, 20 December 2013, 19:22:27: Hey Dan I still really want a set of these, if it's on your backburner do you mind if I move forward with it?
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: aj-kun on Sat, 21 December 2013, 04:02:47: the torquoise aqua fade would suit my kb, im in.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: fart_toast on Mon, 23 December 2013, 10:40:34: PBT?? IF SO THEN YES PLEASE
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: bueller on Mon, 23 December 2013, 21:51:47: Quote from: fart_toast on Mon, 23 December 2013, 10:40:34
PBT?? IF SO THEN YES PLEASE

Spoke with Signature Plastics and they can't do PBT spacebars unfortunately. I'm going to order some color chips and if I can get an ABS color that matches the PBT bottom row color I'll make the spacebars ABS.
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: fart_toast on Tue, 24 December 2013, 13:12:36: Ah cool, so all pbt but with an abs spacebar?
Title: Re: [IC] The fade (now with more polling)
Post by: bazh on Tue, 24 December 2013, 21:01:38: I think imsto can do the spacebar :v