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Title: New Design 60% keyboard frame---original design
Post by: bl1978 on Sat, 13 July 2013, 02:46:51

Hi, I'm a keyboard fan from Taiwan :)
Very pleased to come here to share with you information about the keyboard design

I designed a new keyboard frame KBC60%
I hope to share in GH60,But I did not GH60  :-[


Refer to my previous design

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=16289.msg312979#msg312979

Design Focus:

a.Clamshell storage space, can be placed MINI USB cable, easy to carry out
  60% of the keyboard to go out quite easily, if the USB cable can be incorporated in the function of adding even 

  more ideal. It can be forget to bring the USB cable out to avoid the dilemma.

b.Use ABS material, to achieve lightweight design

c. Hight of the Keyboard can be adjust
I always liked adjustable keyboard, if they can add this features it would be ideal.
I am a industrial designer, so I am quite familiar with the product design process

After I use 3D graphics software, the 3D rendering completed in full accordance with the ratio of 1:1
And in the frame I want to add functionality.
This is a 3D drawing final look, I have considered the feasibility of the die mold. This is certainly not problem.


(http://design.myweb.hinet.net/KB/OSHI-KB-1.jpg)

(http://design.myweb.hinet.net/KB/OSHI-KB-2.jpg)

(http://design.myweb.hinet.net/KB/OSHI-KB-3.jpg)

(http://design.myweb.hinet.net/KB/OSHI-KB-4.jpg)

(http://design.myweb.hinet.net/KB/OSHI-KB-5.jpg)

(http://design.myweb.hinet.net/KB/OSHI-KB-6.jpg)

(http://design.myweb.hinet.net/KB/OSHI-KB-7.jpg)


I will start making sample
continue to share after completion

And please respect this article as intellectual property, without my approval, please do not reprint articles

Thanks

Title: Re: New Design 60% keyboard frame---original design
Post by: laffindude on Sat, 13 July 2013, 03:04:49

You want a GH60 PCB?

Title: Re: New Design 60% keyboard frame---original design
Post by: bl1978 on Sat, 13 July 2013, 03:09:36

My friend has order GH60
But do not get the

Maybe  August  can get in

If i can quickly get GH60
maybe I can be designed to share POKER

Title: Re: New Design 60% keyboard frame---original design
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 13 July 2013, 03:12:20

The bottom looks like a cyborg case :)

Very cool. Although, don't finalize the exact USB hole location and standoffs until we finalize and test our final prototype GH60 PCB and plate. The exact locations are ever so slightly off from pokers and pure. Ideally, you want a case to fit both.

Title: Re: New Design 60% keyboard frame---original design
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 13 July 2013, 03:14:02

I'll gladly test one out with a Pure and GH60 PCB for you ;)

Interesting concept.  I like the storage space for the cable, but have a couple worries about that.  First, will it actually fit a cable properly?  It looks a little small unless you use a short cable and definitely too small for many sleeved cables.  Secondly, the latching mechanism looks like it won't be easy to open and I always worry about how robust the mechanism is.  My other concern is that the USB Mini-B hole looks like it might be too small for some Mini-B housings.  Definitely an interesting concept and I'd love to see what comes of it.

Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 13 July 2013, 03:12:20

The bottom looks like a cyborg case :)

Very cool. Although, don't finalize the exact USB hole location and standoffs until we finalize and test our final prototype GH60 PCB and plate. The exact locations are ever so slightly off from pokers and pure. Ideally, you want a case to fit both.

Wait, so is the GH60 not going to work with the Pure/Poker case then?

Title: Re: New Design 60% keyboard frame---original design
Post by: Poom on Sat, 13 July 2013, 03:18:04

Hey, great stuff, i would be interested in one for sure.

Another thought though, i feel since it is made to be portable, why not make a cover for the keycaps as well, like a small lunch box! Because then you can through it in any Bags or luggages when travelling instead of carrying it in a briefcase.

And even better if the cable compartment underneath is big enough for an ipad usb adaptor, then i would also suggest the case when open and double as a stand, so you end up have a mechanical keyboard ipad stand, which ill be gladly using all the time.

What do you think?

Title: Re: New Design 60% keyboard frame---original design
Post by: bl1978 on Sat, 13 July 2013, 03:57:35

I offer a rough size graphic   Unit mm

Place the USB cable should be sufficient space

(http://design.myweb.hinet.net/KB/OSHI-KB-2D.jpg)


Refer to my previous design

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=16289.msg312979#msg312979

Title: Re: New Design 60% keyboard frame---original design
Post by: badcop on Sat, 13 July 2013, 04:48:32

i really like the usb storage compartment.  looking forward to seeing a prototype.

Title: Re: New Design 60% keyboard frame---original design
Post by: ImperfectLink on Sat, 13 July 2013, 07:05:29

I could see that storage compartment opening all the way to create a foot for a negative incline.

Title: Re: New Design 60% keyboard frame---original design
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 13 July 2013, 07:11:06

I cant believe no one's thought of that before...that's a pretty simple and clever idea. Those renders look so nice too.

Are you planning on making this case for yourself soon?

Title: Re: New Design 60% keyboard frame---original design
Post by: bl1978 on Sat, 13 July 2013, 10:13:49

Who can lend me GH60 PCB
Send to Taiwan.

Please contact me 

thank

Title: Re: New Design 60% keyboard frame---original design
Post by: bigx333 on Sat, 13 July 2013, 10:19:59

This is the perfect case for a road warrior

Title: Re: New Design 60% keyboard frame---original design
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 13 July 2013, 12:53:28

Quote from: bl1978 on Sat, 13 July 2013, 03:57:35

I offer a rough size graphic   Unit mm

Place the USB cable should be sufficient space

Show Image

(http://design.myweb.hinet.net/KB/OSHI-KB-2D.jpg)

Refer to my previous design

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=16289.msg312979#msg312979

Honestly, I'm still not sure it would be enough space for a cable.  I just measured a cable with calipers and the USB A housing is 9mm thick, the USB Mini B housing is 7mm thick, and as sleeved USB cable is ~5-6mm.  The cable might not have an issues on the part butted up against the wall, but the housing will have clearance issues deeper in the case because of the slope.  It will be ~10mm where the USB housing butts up against the wall, but closer to 8mm where the other end of the housing ends in the case, making it so you can't properly close the lid.  Additionally, only incredibly short cables that don't have any overlap in the compartment would work.

I'm not bashing the design as I think it's really interesting, I just have serious doubts about the ability for that compartment to be used in the way that it's designed to be used.

Title: Re: New Design 60% keyboard frame---original design
Post by: domoaligato on Sat, 13 July 2013, 22:00:43

looks awesome!
I am curious about what the inside of the tray looks like.

Title: Re: New Design 60% keyboard frame---original design
Post by: bl1978 on Mon, 15 July 2013, 20:49:31

Refer to my previous design

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=16289.msg312979 # msg312979
[/ quote]

Honestly, I'm still not sure it would be enough space for a cable. I just measured a cable with calipers and the USB A housing is 9mm thick, the USB Mini B housing is 7mm thick, and as sleeved USB cable is ~ 5 -6mm. The cable might [/ i] not have an issues on the part butted up against the wall, but the housing will have clearance issues deeper in the case because of the slope. It will be ~ 10mm where the USB housing butts up against the wall, but closer to 8mm where the other end of the housing ends in the case, making it so you can't properly close the lid. Additionally, only incredibly short cables that don't have any overlap in the compartment would work.

I'm not bashing the design as I think it's really interesting, I just have serious doubts about the ability for that compartment to be used in the way that it's designed to be used.
[/ quote]

I use thin USB CABLE

I believe that my professional thin USB CABLE 1.5 m are loadable

(http://design.myweb.hinet.net/KB/USBCABLE.JPG)

Who can support me GH60 PCB

Title: Re: New Design 60% keyboard frame---original design
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 15 July 2013, 21:37:01

would this help?

Quote from: komar007 on Mon, 08 July 2013, 12:46:14

moved from the prototyping thread...
GH60 rev. B (second prototype) dimensions

Okay, the rev. B board is nearly ready and here are the dimensions which hopefully will be final.
Could you (case makers and owners) check if these dimensions will fit your cases nicely?
These were made basing on my measurements of the Poker plastic case and comparison with rev. A.
FYI the switches are centered in the board in both directions, so the distances between keycap edges and PCB edges are the same on the left as on the right and the same on the top as on the bottom.

Show Image

(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=34959.0;attach=27547;image)

EDIT (extra info):
The 7mm distance is the horizontal distance from the center of the top-left mounting hole and the horizontal center of the USB connector.
The USB receptacle stands out 2mm beyond the PCB edge.
The corner radius is 2mm.

EDIT 2: updated image with reset switch position and element drawings

image from above...
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=34959.0;attach=27547;image)