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Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Problem, again?
Post by: Fragil1ty on Sun, 21 July 2013, 05:33:05
Hey there guys, I've been having a rather strange problem with my keyboard as of late, the problem is as follows:

For the past lets say, 4-6 days, my keyboard (a Noppoo Choc Mini MX RED, bought in January of '13) has started to:


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What I've tried?


The only things that are currently plugged in are the following:


Does anyone know what it may be, what may be causing problems such as this? as it's becoming rather annoying and I'm currently on the verge of buying an entirely new keyboard.

Thanks a lot, Fragil1ty.
Title: Re: Noppoo Choc Mini Problem, again?
Post by: davkol on Sun, 21 July 2013, 07:21:09
fn+F10/F11 to change debouncing rate.
Title: Re: Noppoo Choc Mini Problem, again?
Post by: Fragil1ty on Sun, 21 July 2013, 08:21:43
fn+F10/F11 to change debouncing rate.

I tried this and it doesn't seem to affect it.

Is this an actual fact or is it fiction, because isn't that the volume control? and if it does indeed fix it, should I be using FN+f10 or F11? F10 right? I'd need a lower debouncing rate? is that correct?
Title: Re: Noppoo Choc Mini Problem, again?
Post by: davkol on Sun, 21 July 2013, 08:46:31
Volume control is at fn+Q/W or something like that. How many times did you press fn+F10/F11 (I can't recall which direction is which). I had to use it like ten times, not just twice.
Title: Re: Noppoo Choc Mini Problem, again?
Post by: Fragil1ty on Sun, 21 July 2013, 13:27:40
Volume control is at fn+Q/W or something like that. How many times did you press fn+F10/F11 (I can't recall which direction is which). I had to use it like ten times, not just twice.

I think what I did the first time around was press FN+F11 3 times, I pressed FN+10 10+ times before hoping to get it down to it's most minimal state and since then I've had very little problems regarding keys re-occuring on only 1 key press, hopefully this issue resolves the problem that I am having.

I didn't even think that this would be a solution, I hope it doesn't reoccur though, this problem is indeed quite annoying.
Title: Re: Noppoo Choc Mini Problem, again?
Post by: jabar on Sun, 21 July 2013, 13:55:09
someone I sold my Choc Mini too had the same issue, but I was never able to replicate it even without toying with the repeat rate Fn+F10/F11.
Title: Re: Noppoo Choc Mini Problem, again?
Post by: Fragil1ty on Sun, 21 July 2013, 16:26:27
someone I sold my Choc Mini too had the same issue, but I was never able to replicate it even without toying with the repeat rate Fn+F10/F11.

Yeah, it's strange, only starting to happen recently, and I don't know what's going on, it'll happen and I'll play with the FN+F10 and then it'll go away for a while and then it'll come back and so on etc, it's a vicious circle.

I'm seriously tempted to sell it off.
Title: Re: Noppoo Choc Mini Problem, again?
Post by: Surnia on Sun, 21 July 2013, 19:38:24
One thing that I haven't played with is testing if the modified debounce is retained when the keyboard is unplugged. I know that the switch lock gets reset every time you unplug the thing; is it possible the same is happening with the debounce settings?

ie. does it reset when you plug/unplug the keyboard, or if whatever its plugged into is fully powered off?
Title: Re: Noppoo Choc Mini Problem, again?
Post by: Fragil1ty on Mon, 22 July 2013, 06:18:36
One thing that I haven't played with is testing if the modified debounce is retained when the keyboard is unplugged. I know that the switch lock gets reset every time you unplug the thing; is it possible the same is happening with the debounce settings?

ie. does it reset when you plug/unplug the keyboard, or if whatever its plugged into is fully powered off?

If that is so, would it be worth unplugging the keyboard, completely powering down the machine, powering it back on and then re-inserting the keyboard, maybe that'll do the trick, if what you're suggesting is true.


EDIT:

I tried this and then I did the FN+F10 trick and the problem did seem to go down somewhat, but  no matter what  I do, the problem is constantly reoccuring. It has happened twice in this post already, it's just tedious at this point.
Title: Re: Noppoo Choc Mini Problem, again?
Post by: Surnia on Mon, 22 July 2013, 21:07:05
well I mean that every time its unplugged, the debounce might get reset. eg. if the position is set to 0 at default, and you have it set to +10: you unplug/unpower it and the memory of the board itself resets it to 0.

I'm also wondering if its possible your USB ports/power to the USB is fluctuating slightly and making it reset... highly unlikely but hey.

Have you tried using your Noppoo on a different computer?
Title: Re: Noppoo Choc Mini Problem, again?
Post by: Fragil1ty on Tue, 23 July 2013, 11:40:28
well I mean that every time its unplugged, the debounce might get reset. eg. if the position is set to 0 at default, and you have it set to +10: you unplug/unpower it and the memory of the board itself resets it to 0.

I'm also wondering if its possible your USB ports/power to the USB is fluctuating slightly and making it reset... highly unlikely but hey.

Have you tried using your Noppoo on a different computer?

I haven't no, I've tried everything that has been suggested here thus far (different usb ports, resetting the pc while removing the keyboard), trying different settings with fn+f10 etc.

But yeah, my next step/option is to try the noppoo plugged into a different computer and see if that helps, could it be a software confliction?
Title: Re: Noppoo Choc Mini Problem, again?
Post by: davkol on Sun, 28 July 2013, 16:02:17
Another thing to consider is your typing style. I got a lot of double spaces at one point, but the issue disappeared after I tried to type rather softly.