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Title: How much love stiff switches of GHs?
Post by: yasuo on Sun, 21 July 2013, 05:49:40
(http://i.imgur.com/szpEYOS.png)
Hello Geekhackers :D

I do not see that making a thread like this
so I made ​​it,
no strings attached, just
;D

I saw a lot of people who liked the light switch like red, brown, blue, topre.etc :rolleyes:

I wonder how many are love with stiff switch :p
is 80g-infinity :eek: like BS,Green, Dark gray,grey,MY,Hall effect.etc

Whether you use Stiff switch on full keyboard :-X not only space bar or modiefer key?
Whether you also are man heavy typist?
Post your keyboard with stiff switch also if have
:thumb:

Thanks  your comment^-^

EDIT:Medium stiff also not inlcluded like BS,Green,Black.etc
Title: Re: How many love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Lupizza on Sun, 21 July 2013, 05:52:18
I am currently wielding a keyboard with green switches, which are even stiffer than the black ones.
Title: Re: How many love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Sun, 21 July 2013, 06:02:25
I am currently wielding a keyboard with green switches, which are even stiffer than the black ones.
good,though medium is 80g is stiff,
I like your keyboard because gray keycap like RF High Pro :)) whether your buy in mechanicalkeyboards.com
Title: Re: How many love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 21 July 2013, 06:27:34
I hate 'em except for my model F.
Title: Re: How many love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Sun, 21 July 2013, 06:54:05
I hate 'em except for my model F.
Model F very stiffer in spacebar true or not?
Title: Re: How many which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sun, 21 July 2013, 07:42:56
Tried green / white / grey...
Preferred clears and panda-clears over greys but preferred greens and whites over blues!
Title: Re: How many which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Sun, 21 July 2013, 07:54:53
Tried green / white / grey...
Preferred clears and panda-clears over greys but preferred greens and whites over blues!
yes grey is stiffer over white and  green
white, i interest how diffrence with green & BS
Title: Re: How many which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 21 July 2013, 08:01:23
I hate 'em except for my model F.
Model F very stiffer in spacebar true or not?

I haven't noticed anything on my FAT, maybe too negligible to make a difference.
Title: Re: How many which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: 1391406 on Sun, 21 July 2013, 08:21:27
I hate 'em except for my model F.
Model F very stiffer in spacebar true or not?

The space bar on my Model F AT is only slightly more resistant, but my Model F XT requires about 3 times the force.
Title: Re: How many which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Ultratude on Sun, 21 July 2013, 08:54:17
I love Green for space bar.
Title: Re: How many which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Sun, 21 July 2013, 09:06:50
anyone have super black :))
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Ultratude on Sun, 21 July 2013, 09:10:19
any which have super black :))

Dark Grey I think.
Title: Re: How many which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: jabar on Sun, 21 July 2013, 09:12:46
any which have super black :))
Super Blacks are on par with the ballpoint pen spring mod, so a ghetto Super Black can be had. However they are extremely stiff and no keyboard was ever designed to have more than a few (my 2100 has 3).
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 21 July 2013, 09:13:37
Super Blacks exist. I tried one on a G80-5000. They have like 120 cN of actuation force. They're hard to find and way way way too heavy.

My favorite MX switches are the heavier ones: MX Greens, Whites, and Blues (not heavy I know). Blacks are pretty nice too. And I love the Model M and F switches as well.
Title: Re: How many which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Sun, 21 July 2013, 09:33:04
any which have super black :))
Super Blacks are on par with the ballpoint pen spring mod, so a ghetto Super Black can be had. However they are extremely stiff and no keyboard was ever designed to have more than a few (my 2100 has 3).
what 2100 keyboard?

I've made mx red(super red):)) with ballpoint  spring but they(spring) very long for cherry MX
and finally I cut and but, they are not consistent and easily broken (shattered)
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Sun, 21 July 2013, 09:34:40
Super Blacks exist. I tried one on a G80-5000. They have like 120 cN of actuation force. They're hard to find and way way way too heavy.

My favorite MX switches are the heavier ones: MX Greens, Whites, and Blues (not heavy I know). Blacks are pretty nice too. And I love the Model M and F switches as well.
yes, on cherry ergoplus
your favorite switch is medium stiff :cool:
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Sun, 21 July 2013, 09:36:08
any which have super black :))

Dark Grey I think.
yes,super black for spacebar dark grey or grey switch :D
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 21 July 2013, 09:50:33
MY are the best because they're light if you like light, but then they get really stiff if you like that.
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Smeagol_RP on Sun, 21 July 2013, 10:20:12
How do you call a MX Brown stem with a MX Black spring?
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Sun, 21 July 2013, 10:30:47
MY are the best because they're light if you like light, but then they get really stiff if you like that.
thank your info before

I just found if MY switch also stiffer switch and 
i open at DTwiki they is 120g peak force of 30g :eek:

whether you ever tried?

Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 21 July 2013, 10:33:53
120g peak force of 30g
:eek:
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: UniClown on Sun, 21 July 2013, 10:37:05
I am using brown switches atm, but I think they are a bit too light for me. I will probably try blacks or panda clears in the future.
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sun, 21 July 2013, 10:37:44
How do you call a MX Brown stem with a MX Black spring?
Shi#tyPanda?
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 21 July 2013, 10:38:56
Blacks are so dreamy when they are smooth (like vintage Blacks).  I love their feel, but don't particularly like typing on them for a long time, and yet I can't stop thinking about what keyboard to put my batch of vintage Blacks into...  Ran out of keyboards to mod! (not touching my pink Filco!)
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Sun, 21 July 2013, 10:47:09
How do you call a MX Brown stem with a MX Black spring?
Smeagol  Brown maybe :))
like panda clear,but less tactile
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Sun, 21 July 2013, 12:38:16
Guilty as charged!

MX Green and Buckling Springs all the way :-)
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 21 July 2013, 13:30:55
My Pure has Red and Blacks with Clear springs in them (what I call Ghost Reds and Ghost Blacks).  Does that count as heavy?
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Smeagol_RP on Sun, 21 July 2013, 14:38:33
Shi#tyPanda? Kind of true. :)) Smeagol Brown? Hmm, I don't know. Gollum sounds better.

What about Ghetto Clear? Ghetto Brown?
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 21 July 2013, 14:41:52
Doesn't "ghetto" usually mean you're making an equivalent of a switch from another switch? :)  You're definitely not making an equivalent of Browns out of Browns with Black springs!  More like "upscale" Browns!
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Smeagol_RP on Sun, 21 July 2013, 16:22:57
That's why I said Ghetto Clear. The other one... I think it was a little racist. It was not purposely.
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Sifo on Sun, 21 July 2013, 16:25:42
But brown stems aren't clears
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Smeagol_RP on Sun, 21 July 2013, 17:44:56
But brown stems aren't clears

Yes, and the Ghetto Green use a blue stem.
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 21 July 2013, 17:48:04
I like blacks (which I know you omitted).

I am also in the process of refurbishing a couple of Model M keyboards.  I got to use the first one yesterday - it was fantastic!

Might need a bolt mod though, as about a dozen rivets have fallen off and there is a different feel across some of the keys.
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Neo.X on Sun, 21 July 2013, 17:57:49
Model M I like, but can't get used to green. Green feels more stiffer to me.
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Sifo on Sun, 21 July 2013, 19:25:40
But brown stems aren't clears

Yes, and the Ghetto Green use a blue stem.

But they're the same stem... ................... where as clears and browns are completely different.
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Sun, 21 July 2013, 19:42:29
MY are the best because they're light if you like light, but then they get really stiff if you like that.
The cherry MY switch adjusts itself on the fly to perfectly match the preferences of the user.
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 21 July 2013, 19:50:49
MY are the best because they're light if you like light, but then they get really stiff if you like that.
The cherry MY switch adjusts itself on the fly to perfectly match the preferences of the user.

It's like it's omniscient to what the user prefers... Almost like it could be... the godswitch.
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: linziyi on Sun, 21 July 2013, 20:12:51
Greens feel toooo light for me...

I think clear with super black spring would be good for me :)
Title: Re: How many which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: jabar on Sun, 21 July 2013, 20:52:18
any which have super black :))
Super Blacks are on par with the ballpoint pen spring mod, so a ghetto Super Black can be had. However they are extremely stiff and no keyboard was ever designed to have more than a few (my 2100 has 3).
what 2100 keyboard?

I've made mx red(super red):)) with ballpoint  spring but they(spring) very long for cherry MX
and finally I cut and but, they are not consistent and easily broken (shattered)
Dis guy:

(http://i.imgur.com/4oXUaAB.jpg)

I haven't done the ballpoint mod myself, but I have one on a modded keyboard.
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Mon, 22 July 2013, 01:25:22
The cherry MY switch adjusts itself on the fly to perfectly match the preferences of the user.
i look you have stiff switch dark grey GH60, can post in here

EDIT:apparently still coming soon
Title: Re: How many which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Mon, 22 July 2013, 01:49:30
Dis guy:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/4oXUaAB.jpg)


I haven't done the ballpoint mod myself, but I have one on a modded keyboard.
what your keyboard modded? whether with stiff switch?
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Mon, 22 July 2013, 03:55:46
My Pure has Red and Blacks with Clear springs in them (what I call Ghost Reds and Ghost Blacks).  Does that count as heavy?
maybe not,blacks is 60g but 80g peak force :rolleyes:
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 22 July 2013, 10:52:58
My Pure has Red and Blacks with Clear springs in them (what I call Ghost Reds and Ghost Blacks).  Does that count as heavy?
maybe not,blacks is 60g but 80g peak force :rolleyes:

Well they are considerably stiffer than Blacks.
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: jspark on Mon, 22 July 2013, 12:49:41
I love stiff switches much more. I prefer BS, Green and Dark Grey.
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Thimplum on Mon, 22 July 2013, 16:04:03
#MY4LIFE
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Kiraaaa on Mon, 22 July 2013, 19:34:34
I like blacks, I wouldn't mind trying something stiffer.. but not sure if my fingers would get tired or not.
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: knotra on Mon, 22 July 2013, 21:00:15
I don't mind using the stiff switch keyboards but I definitely prefer using the lighter switches. Blues are my personal favorite.
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Mon, 22 July 2013, 23:26:56
My Pure has Red and Blacks with Clear springs in them (what I call Ghost Reds and Ghost Blacks).  Does that count as heavy?
maybe not,blacks is 60g but 80g peak force :rolleyes:

Well they are considerably stiffer than Blacks.
what spring clear stiffer than spring blacks? :rolleyes:
clear has peak activation force 55g and blacks is 60g
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 22 July 2013, 23:35:32
what spring clear stiffer than spring blacks? :rolleyes:
clear has peak activation force 55g and blacks is 60g

I'm typing on Blacks/Reds with Clear springs in them (I call them Ghost Blacks/Reds) and have a keyboard with Blacks right next to it.  They feel heavier than the Blacks because even though the actuation force is a little lighter with the Clear spring, they have a heavier bottom out weight.  Since I've never been good at floating the keys, the Ghost Blacks/Reds feel heavier than normal Blacks.
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Tue, 23 July 2013, 08:54:10
I'm typing on Blacks/Reds with Clear springs in them (I call them Ghost Blacks/Reds) and have a keyboard with Blacks right next to it.  They feel heavier than the Blacks because even though the actuation force is a little lighter with the Clear spring, they have a heavier bottom out weight.  Since I've never been good at floating the keys, the Ghost Blacks/Reds feel heavier than normal Blacks.
better see this http://imgur.com/a/RJqM4
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: linziyi on Tue, 23 July 2013, 09:08:43
We should organize a group buy on super stiff springs!
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Thimplum on Tue, 23 July 2013, 09:27:51
We should organize a group buy on super stiff springs!

Is that a volunteer?
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: linziyi on Tue, 23 July 2013, 09:30:25
I had never organized a group buy before and don't know where to find appropriate manufacturer, but I will glad to help organizing one!
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Thimplum on Tue, 23 July 2013, 11:30:35
I had never organized a group buy before and don't know where to find appropriate manufacturer, but I will glad to help organizing one!
I was joking. I have absolutely no idea how to organize one.
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: linziyi on Tue, 23 July 2013, 17:39:43
Maybe we should start a interest check?
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Wed, 24 July 2013, 00:53:03
it seems, will not be much interested
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: mapple on Wed, 24 July 2013, 02:06:02
i love sitff switches reason for now using green cherry, sociecity (mean ppl around me at work doesn't appriacate sound of buckling spring but somehow they tolerate green ones...). blues are cool too but green just feels right;)
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:05:10
I'm typing on Blacks/Reds with Clear springs in them (I call them Ghost Blacks/Reds) and have a keyboard with Blacks right next to it.  They feel heavier than the Blacks because even though the actuation force is a little lighter with the Clear spring, they have a heavier bottom out weight.  Since I've never been good at floating the keys, the Ghost Blacks/Reds feel heavier than normal Blacks.
better see this http://imgur.com/a/RJqM4

The Blacks and Clears have different numbers of coils.  And as someone who owns Blacks, Clears, Ergo Clears, and a keyboard with Blacks/Reds with Clear springs, I think I can say with authority that the Clear spring is heavier than Black.
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Thu, 01 August 2013, 05:28:43
The Blacks and Clears have different numbers of coils.  And as someone who owns Blacks, Clears, Ergo Clears, and a keyboard with Blacks/Reds with Clear springs, I think I can say with authority that the Clear spring is heavier than Black.
Yes,they are almost near but Tactile heavier than Linear :rolleyes:
I have blacks and red but not for clear,unfortunately  :(
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Thu, 01 August 2013, 05:29:56
Hall Effect Most Heavy switch
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Honeywell_Hall_Effect
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Grim Fandango on Thu, 01 August 2013, 07:07:56
Personally I just can not deal with the heavy , stiff switches. They literally hurt my fingers. I am also a fairly light typer and I think that over the years, I am just starting to type lighter and lighter.

My first mechanical keyboard was the Steelseries 7G, and although I like how it felt, in the end it was just too stiff and rigid for me. After using almost exclusively 45g switches since then, it might feel even worse now. I remember that it felt especially bad for my pinkies whenever I spent a lot of time typing with few breaks.
Title: Re: How much which love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Lupizza on Thu, 01 August 2013, 10:31:05
Personally I just can not deal with the heavy , stiff switches. They literally hurt my fingers. I am also a fairly light typer and I think that over the years, I am just starting to type lighter and lighter.

My first mechanical keyboard was the Steelseries 7G, and although I like how it felt, in the end it was just too stiff and rigid for me. After using almost exclusively 45g switches since then, it might feel even worse now. I remember that it felt especially bad for my pinkies whenever I spent a lot of time typing with few breaks.

>implying grim fandango is a light-switch subhuman
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Fri, 02 August 2013, 04:00:44
(http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/703686_394267447315022_1207326372_o.jpg) :p
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 02 August 2013, 05:38:07
main problem with stiff switch is that most keyboards are NOT stiff when we're growing up, so most people's typing technique is NOT adapted to stiff switches.


Fro stiff switches, you need Quick attack and release.  This way your fingers will not tire,  it's like typewriters and pianos.

for softer  switches you have lots of "mush-room" because you can just meander through the keys.

If you try to mush down a stiff switch without quick-attack, you will tire your fingers pretty quickly.
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Fri, 02 August 2013, 06:54:22
main problem with stiff switch is that most keyboards are NOT stiff when we're growing up, so most people's typing technique is NOT adapted to stiff switches.


Fro stiff switches, you need Quick attack and release.  This way your fingers will not tire,  it's like typewriters and pianos.

for softer  switches you have lots of "mush-room" because you can just meander through the keys.

If you try to mush down a stiff switch without quick-attack, you will tire your fingers pretty quickly.
good quotes :thumb:
what you use also stiif switch?
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 02 August 2013, 08:32:11
main problem with stiff switch is that most keyboards are NOT stiff when we're growing up, so most people's typing technique is NOT adapted to stiff switches.


Fro stiff switches, you need Quick attack and release.  This way your fingers will not tire,  it's like typewriters and pianos.

for softer  switches you have lots of "mush-room" because you can just meander through the keys.

If you try to mush down a stiff switch without quick-attack, you will tire your fingers pretty quickly.
good quotes :thumb:
what you use also stiif switch?

for a while 4 months or so, ergo clears, because they were all the RAGE.

I've swapped back to stock clears :D
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 02 August 2013, 08:40:55
main problem with stiff switch is that most keyboards are NOT stiff when we're growing up, so most people's typing technique is NOT adapted to stiff switches.


Fro stiff switches, you need Quick attack and release.  This way your fingers will not tire,  it's like typewriters and pianos.

for softer  switches you have lots of "mush-room" because you can just meander through the keys.

If you try to mush down a stiff switch without quick-attack, you will tire your fingers pretty quickly.
good quotes :thumb:
what you use also stiif switch?

for a while 4 months or so, ergo clears, because they were all the RAGE.

I've swapped back to stock clears :D

^^ see I always knew there was something good about you TP....stock clears FTW!!!
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Tarzan on Fri, 02 August 2013, 12:44:30
In order to train my fingers properly for the two Model M's I have incoming, I'm using a Ducky Pro with MX Greys at work. 
[attachimg=1]

I also use a military surplus Marquardt keyboard, the weight keeps people from borrowing it off my desk.
[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 02 August 2013, 13:07:50
In order to train my fingers properly for the two Model M's I have incoming, I'm using a Ducky Pro with MX Greys at work. 
(Attachment Link)

I also use a military surplus Marquardt keyboard, the weight keeps people from borrowing it off my desk.
(Attachment Link)

How are you liking the greys?

How would you rate them versus clears, besides one being linear and one tactile ?
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: linziyi on Fri, 02 August 2013, 13:57:56
How are greys compare to greens?
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 02 August 2013, 13:58:52
How are greys compare to greens?

One of them clicks.
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Tarzan on Fri, 02 August 2013, 14:18:13
In order to train my fingers properly for the two Model M's I have incoming, I'm using a Ducky Pro with MX Greys at work. 
(Attachment Link)

I also use a military surplus Marquardt keyboard, the weight keeps people from borrowing it off my desk.
(Attachment Link)

How are you liking the greys?

How would you rate them versus clears, besides one being linear and one tactile ?

The MX Greys are nice, but some of that could certainly be because of the uber-thick dyesub caps on the DK9008G2.  These keyboards come with the thickest Cherry-compatible set I've ever tried, they don't have that "scratchy PBT feeling" at all.

I find the Greys even harder to bottom out than the MX Clears, the springs do feel stiffer.  But again, I haven't swapped keysets around to do a real blind test, I'm just alternating between the TG3-BL82 with Clears and the Ducky board for quick impressions.

I'm going to give the Grey board a try for a couple of weeks, get some mileage on it so I can properly gauge it versus the Clears.  I also got a DK9008G2 with Clears, but that's out on loan already.  That would be a better comparison board, as it has the identical keycaps.   
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 02 August 2013, 14:22:15
I'm using Ghetto Greens and would definitely be up for stiffer springs, like 120g or something
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 02 August 2013, 14:25:32
How would you classify typing on Clears vs. typing on MX Blacks in terms of subjective effort?  I know they are very different, but I'm wondering if the effort is similar--mostly because it's easier to bottom out Blacks and not so easy to bottom out stock Clears.  I've only tried stock MX Blacks and 62g ergo-Clears, as I swapped Clear springs out right away.  So I never really got a good feel for stock Clears.  Just trying a couple of left-over switches on their own feels like they are not terribly heavy vs 62g Clears or stock Blacks.

For me, subjectively, 62g Clears are significantly tougher than stock Browns, but still easier than MX Blacks.
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Tarzan on Fri, 02 August 2013, 14:25:39
How are greys compare to greens?

When I got my keyboard with MX Greens, I loved it.  Just felt right, the perfect step up from my first mechanical board, the Noppoo Choc Mini with MX Browns.

Now, after trying other key models, I think the Green board is far too loud.  It's not as "pingy" as the MX Blue board I tried, but it's definitely audible to my friends when I'm Skyping or gaming with a team.

I've given quite a bit of thought to my ideal switch type, for the ErgoDox kits I'm piecing together, and I suspect I'll settle on either MX Whites or MX Clears.  But for a full-size keyboard, it's going to be difficult to choose just one...   :-\
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Sat, 03 August 2013, 04:30:57
In order to train my fingers properly for the two Model M's I have incoming, I'm using a Ducky Pro with MX Greys at work. 
(Attachment Link)

I also use a military surplus Marquardt keyboard, the weight keeps people from borrowing it off my desk.
(Attachment Link)
where to buy ducky mx grey? or you modded :rolleyes:
i not see selling ducky mx grey :eek: can post switch on board
sorry but thanks :cool:
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Tarzan on Sat, 03 August 2013, 06:02:45
In order to train my fingers properly for the two Model M's I have incoming, I'm using a Ducky Pro with MX Greys at work. 
(Attachment Link)

I also use a military surplus Marquardt keyboard, the weight keeps people from borrowing it off my desk.
(Attachment Link)
where to buy ducky mx grey? or you modded :rolleyes:
i not see selling ducky mx grey :eek: can post switch on board
sorry but thanks :cool:

It's actually a Ducky with MX Dark Greys, the linear version.  I got it from MK.com;

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=465 (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=465)

Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Ekruceal on Sat, 03 August 2013, 06:03:01
I'd like to try some of the stiffer switches in the future, and I do plan on eventually buying a MX Green board (because I like MX Blue so much).  So far I've only used MX Red, Brown, and Blue.
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Tarzan on Sat, 03 August 2013, 06:05:28
I'd like to try some of the stiffer switches in the future, and I do plan on eventually buying a MX Green board (because I like MX Blue so much).  So far I've only used MX Red, Brown, and Blue.

If you like MX Blues, and want something with stronger switches, I think you'll really like the MX Greens.  I was really impressed by them when I tried them for the first time.

There are a couple of MX Green boards for sale in the Classifieds, last time I looked.  Cheap(er) way to try that switch type.
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: ARod on Sat, 03 August 2013, 19:09:06
I received my Pro2 with Clears on just yesterday and I love it.  Coupled with the amazing PBT keycaps, they truly are special, Ducky did a great job on them on thickness and feel.  I always felt the Browns could be a bit stiffer, to at least the 55g level the 60g of the Clears is perfect.  I think 80g would be a bit too much for my liking. 

As someone else mentioned, fast and hard strokes are the way to go.  My fingers are quickly catching up to the additional 15g.
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Sun, 04 August 2013, 06:48:01
It's actually a Ducky with MX Dark Greys, the linear version.  I got it from MK.com;

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=465 (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=465)
it's real :p
but i prefer grey tactile ^-^
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 December 2013, 12:30:48
tactile grey board coming soon....
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Wed, 04 December 2013, 12:51:46
tactile grey board coming soon....
yep,how do you know?
that's is syml board :p soon......:rolleyes:
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 December 2013, 12:57:13
tactile grey board coming soon....
yep,how do you know?
that's is syml board :p soon......:rolleyes:

I'm modding a board with tactile greys!! :D
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Wed, 04 December 2013, 22:13:37
Wow,you make also :p same :thumb:
post here if completed :)
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: berrymxblue on Thu, 05 December 2013, 02:41:40
I think Clears are my favorite switch. I make the least amount of mistakes on it and the noise level is acceptable in most settings.
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Thu, 05 December 2013, 02:52:16
I think Clears are my favorite switch. I make the least amount of mistakes on it and the noise level is acceptable in most settings.
Sorry buddy,but clears not stiff ;)
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: Azure Flash on Fri, 06 December 2013, 04:47:56
I use car suspension springs under my keys. Also, they are buckling spring switches.
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 06 December 2013, 07:02:45
I use car suspension springs under my keys. Also, they are buckling spring switches.

Nice! A fist typer!
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: czarek on Fri, 06 December 2013, 07:44:30
I like BS and Vintage Blacks. Although I am using MX Blues on my daily driver currently.
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: yasuo on Fri, 06 December 2013, 07:47:26
BS enough stiff i think,vintage black not included :D
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 06 December 2013, 08:12:52
I hate 'em except for my model F.
Model F very stiffer in spacebar true or not?

You can mod the spacebar to decrease its stiffness.
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 06 December 2013, 17:25:27
I use car suspension springs under my keys. Also, they are buckling spring switches.

What keycaps do you use?  Titanium?
Title: Re: How much love stiff switch of GH?
Post by: divito on Fri, 06 December 2013, 22:51:14
I was hesitant on greens at first, because my trial of black switches was somewhat tiring. However, greens have been quite pleasant to not be pressed so easily as with blues, and without the annoyance of the black's linear nature.

The only fatigue happens with a lot of typing (on top of my zinc alphas), where switching back to my blues would be more beneficial. But for general usage and purposes, I prefer stiffer and tactile. I'll have a better viewpoint once I get around to trying whites and clears, and seeing where they fit in my preferences.