Hi folks, trying to work out what is up with my rig, randomly got Blue Screen of Death twice today, although no error code, and I'm trying to work out what is up with my PC, any ideas how I can find out? Been monitoring my GPU and CPU and they've only been hitting 80c under full load.
Any thoughts ?
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Are you overclocked? If you are, check your Events Manager or whatever, and look for a WHEA 19 Warning/Error. This could be a cause for your BSOD.. but I guess we just need more info to help!
This can mean a lot of things. are you using an ssd?No ssd
Are you overclocked? If you are, check your Events Manager or whatever, and look for a WHEA 19 Warning/Error. This could be a cause for your BSOD.. but I guess we just need more info to help!
Wheres that sorry? Never had to do this before.
Are you overclocked? If you are, check your Events Manager or whatever, and look for a WHEA 19 Warning/Error. This could be a cause for your BSOD.. but I guess we just need more info to help!
Wheres that sorry? Never had to do this before.
If you aren't overclocked, what I told you won't matter. But to open the Event Viewer just press Win, then type event.
What processor/GPU do you use? I think 80 for processor is really hot, depending on what you have. Check if its exceeding the temperature limit.
Are you overclocked? If you are, check your Events Manager or whatever, and look for a WHEA 19 Warning/Error. This could be a cause for your BSOD.. but I guess we just need more info to help!
Wheres that sorry? Never had to do this before.
If you aren't overclocked, what I told you won't matter. But to open the Event Viewer just press Win, then type event.
What processor/GPU do you use? I think 80 for processor is really hot, depending on what you have. Check if its exceeding the temperature limit.
Hmmm... Install anything new recently, hardware or software?No new hardware, ill check the software but I don't think it was too much.
Are you overclocked? If you are, check your Events Manager or whatever, and look for a WHEA 19 Warning/Error. This could be a cause for your BSOD.. but I guess we just need more info to help!
Wheres that sorry? Never had to do this before.
If you aren't overclocked, what I told you won't matter. But to open the Event Viewer just press Win, then type event.
What processor/GPU do you use? I think 80 for processor is really hot, depending on what you have. Check if its exceeding the temperature limit.
i5 2500k, it wasn't getting that hot even, i checked and its still within the safe boundaries.
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Windows 7 Kernel Version 7601 (Service Pack 1) MP (4 procs) Free x64
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS Personal
Built by: 7601.18113.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.130318-1533
Machine Name:
Kernel base = 0xfffff800`02c58000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`02e9b670
Debug session time: Tue Jul 23 14:46:30.809 2013 (UTC - 4:00)
System Uptime: 0 days 3:28:57.011
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* Bugcheck Analysis *
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KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED (1e)
This is a very common bugcheck. Usually the exception address pinpoints
the driver/function that caused the problem. Always note this address
as well as the link date of the driver/image that contains this address.
Arguments:
Arg1: ffffffffc0000005, The exception code that was not handled
Arg2: fffff80002c5f1d4, The address that the exception occurred at
Arg3: 0000000000000000, Parameter 0 of the exception
Arg4: 000007ffffff0000, Parameter 1 of the exception
Debugging Details:
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TRIAGER: Could not open triage file : e:\dump_analysis\program\triage\modclass.ini, error 2
EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at "0x%08lx" referenced memory at "0x%08lx". The memory could not be "%s".
FAULTING_IP:
nt! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+c071
fffff800`02c5f1d4 8a01 mov al,byte ptr [rcx]
EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1: 0000000000000000
EXCEPTION_PARAMETER2: 000007ffffff0000
READ_ADDRESS: GetPointerFromAddress: unable to read from fffff80002f05100
GetUlongFromAddress: unable to read from fffff80002f051c0
000007ffffff0000 Nonpaged pool
ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at "0x%08lx" referenced memory at "0x%08lx". The memory could not be "%s".
BUGCHECK_STR: 0x1e_c0000005
CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT
PROCESS_NAME: withSIX-Play.e
CURRENT_IRQL: 1
TRAP_FRAME: fffff88005951d40 -- (.trap 0xfffff88005951d40)
NOTE: The trap frame does not contain all registers.
Some register values may be zeroed or incorrect.
rax=000007ffffff0000 rbx=0000000000000000 rcx=000007ffffff0000
rdx=0000000000000000 rsi=0000000000000000 rdi=0000000000000000
rip=fffff80002c5f1d4 rsp=fffff88005951ed0 rbp=000000007549ae60
r8=0000000000000000 r9=00000000754d3528 r10=fffff88005952a68
r11=0000000075480000 r12=0000000000000000 r13=0000000000000000
r14=0000000000000000 r15=0000000000000000
iopl=0 nv up ei ng nz na pe nc
nt! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+0xc071:
fffff800`02c5f1d4 8a01 mov al,byte ptr [rcx] ds:000007ff`ffff0000=??
Resetting default scope
LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from fffff80002d18728 to fffff80002ccdc00
CONTEXT: 000464d5840fff3a -- (.cxr 0x464d5840fff3a)
Unable to read context, Win32 error 0n30
STACK_TEXT:
fffff880`059514b8 fffff800`02d18728 : 00000000`0000001e ffffffff`c0000005 fffff800`02c5f1d4 00000000`00000000 : nt!KeBugCheckEx
fffff880`059514c0 fffff800`02ccd282 : fffff880`05951c98 fffff880`05951ff0 fffff880`05951d40 00000000`00000001 : nt! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+0x487ed
fffff880`05951b60 fffff800`02ccbdfa : 00000000`00000000 000007ff`ffff0000 fffff880`05951d00 fffff880`05951ff0 : nt!KiExceptionDispatch+0xc2
fffff880`05951d40 fffff800`02c5f1d4 : 00000000`00004204 00000000`00210206 fffff880`05951ef0 00000000`00000018 : nt!KiPageFault+0x23a
fffff880`05951ed0 fffff800`02fc04bd : fffff880`00000000 00000000`75480000 fffff880`00000000 fffff880`00000000 : nt! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+0xc071
fffff880`05951f60 fffff800`02cbf141 : 00000000`00000000 fffff880`059ecd30 13850a0a`00000003 fffff880`05953000 : nt!PspGetSetContextInternal+0x265
fffff880`05952500 fffff800`02cc0617 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 17090808`005a0a09 00100005`08000095 : nt!PspGetSetContextSpecialApc+0xa1
fffff880`05952610 fffff800`02cc381d : fffffa80`0770b060 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`0770b060 : nt!KiDeliverApc+0x1c7
fffff880`05952690 fffff800`02cd498f : fffffa80`0770b168 fffff800`02cc3612 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`0770b060 : nt!KiCommitThreadWait+0x3dd
fffff880`05952720 fffff800`02cbf9d4 : fffff880`05952700 fffff800`00000005 fffff880`05952900 00000000`00000000 : nt!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f
fffff880`059527c0 fffff800`02cc0651 : fffffa80`0770b060 fffffa80`0770b0b0 00000000`00000001 fffff800`00000000 : nt!KiSuspendThread+0x54
fffff880`05952800 fffff800`02cc08c7 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 fffff800`02cbf980 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiDeliverApc+0x201
fffff880`05952880 fffff880`03fcd749 : 00000000`00001794 00000000`75472450 00000000`00000000 00000000`75472450 : nt!KiApcInterrupt+0xd7
fffff880`05952a10 00000000`00001794 : 00000000`75472450 00000000`00000000 00000000`75472450 00000000`7549b1c8 : SbieDrv+0xe749
fffff880`05952a18 00000000`75472450 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`75472450 00000000`7549b1c8 00000000`00000020 : 0x1794
fffff880`05952a20 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`75472450 00000000`7549b1c8 00000000`00000020 00000000`00000000 : 0x75472450
FOLLOWUP_IP:
SbieDrv+e749
fffff880`03fcd749 ?? ???
SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: d
SYMBOL_NAME: SbieDrv+e749
FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner
MODULE_NAME: SbieDrv
IMAGE_NAME: SbieDrv.sys
DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 4c305969
STACK_COMMAND: .cxr 0x464d5840fff3a ; kb
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0x1e_c0000005_SbieDrv+e749
BUCKET_ID: X64_0x1e_c0000005_SbieDrv+e749
Followup: MachineOwner
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BlueScreenView can be not specific enough, sadly.Depends, between Whocrashed and Bluescreenview, I get results about 90% of the time.
When does the computer crash? Are you playing a game? Doing something specific both times?
This MemTest runs within Windows on all available memory.If it runs within windows, it cant test the memory windows itself is using...
I don't think you mentioned what the computer was doing when it crashed(?) That could be relevant.When does the computer crash? Are you playing a game? Doing something specific both times?
I don't think you mentioned what the computer was doing when it crashed(?) That could be relevant.When does the computer crash? Are you playing a game? Doing something specific both times?
Doing nothing particuly both times, just general internet surfing, i remember precisely I was about to (but hadn't yet) loaded up a game, the 2nd time and the first time wasn't doing anything really.
Have you uninstalled Sandboxie? This happens a lot when you install something with Sandboxie and Windows is trying to open a file within the sandbox and you have process isolation or just a faulty version of Sandboxie, It's the whole reason I stopped using it. Also make sure you don't install the newest windows platform update because it's terrible and causes BSOD.
Also make sure you don't install the newest windows platform update because it's terrible and causes BSOD.
According to the 2 tools leslieann suggested it is not a hardware problem, they both agreed it was a software driver issue.What files did it say were the problem?
On Tue 23/07/2013 18:46:30 GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\072313-17097-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x75C00)
Bugcheck code: 0x1E (0xFFFFFFFFC0000005, 0xFFFFF80002C5F1D4, 0x0, 0x7FFFFFF0000)
Error: KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: NT Kernel & System
Bug check description: This indicates that a kernel-mode program generated an exception which the error handler did not catch.
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver that cannot be identified at this time.
Omg. You too! Windows!!!!Yeah I saw yours too :( Why windows? Why?
Ntoskrnl IS Windows (it's the underlying system), so if anything crashes windows to bluescreen, it crashes ntoskernel.
It's generic, like saying your car crashed, because your car crashed.
In laymans terms, this happens because it crashed so bad and fast that Windows never even had a chance to log what caused it. All it knows is that it crashed.
Error code 0x0000001ENot always.
Google is your friend...
Try run command prompt as admin and type the followingUnless it's your drive failing, in which case you just told it to work even harder to kill itself.
Sfc /scannow
even tho it's probably not related to your problem a check wont hurt it :thumb:
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Error code 0x0000001ENot always.
Google is your friend...
Try searching that error and see what you actually get, pages and pages of people throwing out random guesses.
Even Microsoft will tell they need more info.
If you can't fix the error using the error code, you are not trying hard enough. That's the only start point you'll ever have when it comes to BSOD, every problem starts being fix by this. Now give it an hour or two of reading and you'll fix it eventually.Seriously search up that error and see what you get.
People throw random guesses yeah. Ignore them. Instead read those who had the error code and find out what they did to fix up their ****s. If you do the same most probably it'll also fix your problem.
If you can't fix the error using the error code, you are not trying hard enough. That's the only start point you'll ever have when it comes to BSOD, every problem starts being fix by this. Now give it an hour or two of reading and you'll fix it eventually.Seriously search up that error and see what you get.
People throw random guesses yeah. Ignore them. Instead read those who had the error code and find out what they did to fix up their ****s. If you do the same most probably it'll also fix your problem.
You cannot fix an error the error with that one snippet of code, even Microsoft says so. It's a pretty generic error code.
Because of that, you will ONLY get random guesses on how to fix it. If you are just following what they did, how is that not just following random advice?
...I never said don't try, I offered quite a few tips (from the trenches) on how to actually fix it, rather than just randomly trying what others have before.
If you never try anything yourself you will never become good at anything. Yeah, you could simply call someone to fix that up for some cash, or simply post on forums and wait for someone to answer and then try his random guess...
While on the other hand you could man the **** up and work it out like a real IT would do. Weither it's generic or not, what are you going to do? Sit down, ignore it and cry about it? No one is going to fix your computer; Open it yourself and find out the problem.
Oh and whatever Microsoft says; they are dieing for a reason.
...I never said don't try, I offered quite a few tips (from the trenches) on how to actually fix it, rather than just randomly trying what others have before.
If you never try anything yourself you will never become good at anything. Yeah, you could simply call someone to fix that up for some cash, or simply post on forums and wait for someone to answer and then try his random guess...
While on the other hand you could man the **** up and work it out like a real IT would do. Weither it's generic or not, what are you going to do? Sit down, ignore it and cry about it? No one is going to fix your computer; Open it yourself and find out the problem.
Oh and whatever Microsoft says; they are dieing for a reason.
MS is not dying because they suck, in fact they aren't even dying.
They are in a state of panic because their industry is under severe change, MS lacked the proper vision to get into smart phones and tablets (Apple went left, while MS went straight). MS has over $60 billion in cash reserves alone, if they can't engineer a way out, they can simply buy their way in. They likely have the cash, stock and credit to buy HTC, Nokia, Blackberry and LG's phone division, and barely bat an eye.
If I had to pick between Apple and MS as to which company will be here or at least "winning" in 20 years, my money is on Microsoft. Apple has already shown it doesn't do well without Steve Jobs, and they already show signs of reverting to traditional business practices, which nearly killed them the last time they did. Apple has only a few products, Microsoft on the other hand, has their hands in a LOT of cookie jars. At the same time Apples phone "dominance shrunk by 5% to 15%, Microsoft went UP to 50% on server dominance, they also just put Office on Iphone and soon(?) Android.
Apple is not doing well without Steve Jobs?You may hate office 365, but it's still Office on the Iphone and people are using it
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I don't mind, you fixed my problem (Touch Wood)
We (anyone I know) say Touch Wood here, maybe we're all perv's.
Apple is not doing well without Steve Jobs?You may hate office 365, but it's still Office on the Iphone and people are using it
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Much of your other stiff is inconsequential. Fastest SSD? That isn't their technology and it doesn't mean they are doing well (nor will it dramatically increase sales). The gray logo? How does that effect their bottom line or value? Look at the bigger picture and history.
Apple is still living off the things Jobs did, but they are working to change that, it's not going to drop overnight.
The head is now the bean counter, and that's never good. A bean counter who bows to the investors, even worse... A bean counter who bows to investors, at a company who focused on high end products, is pretty much the worst thing possible. Jobs almost never bowed to investors or bean counters. His whole plan was simply make the best devices Apple could, and people will pay for it. Jobs didn't want lawsuits out the ying yang, he would rather out innovate, and out design the competition, and he was vehemently opposed to a 7in tablet. You are only just seeing the tip of the iceberg for Apple changes and it's the core of Apple that is changing.
Larry Ellison feels the same way. (https://www.google.com/search?q=larry+ellison+apple&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a) As he and I both said, we've been down this path before. Apple isn't the typical company, that's what made it special. Jobs made it work. You cannot run that company like a typical company. Which is what they plan to do with it now because they don't know how to run it like Jobs did. Once that magical aura is gone, which is what is keeping the riding high at the moment, Apple will fall. Can you honestly say Apple still holds that same aura without him?
Don't get me wrong, I don't idolize Jobs, or Gates for that matter, both have serious flaws. So why would I bet on MS... I never said MS wasn't having issues, in fact, I said they were, however, they have the product diversity, which is why they can have failures and keep going, and money to get beyond it. Apple doesn't have a diverse product line, they have very few products, all tied together, and a lot of money. We already know desktops are in decline, that shrinks Apples product line by half. Their cell phone dominance dropped 25%, and that's not insignificant. Yes, Apple has Itunes, but like I said, that's tied to the Iphone, if Iphone sales drop, so does Itunes.
But I digress, we have gone waaaaay off topic here.
Very good response, i have to say. I am impressed by the consistency of the content you are saying.
And since we're already off topic let's be even more.
You're right about the new CEO, Tim Cock sucks balls.
I have to say i agree that Jobs was making Apple somewhat special against other enterprises but although they are currently going against some of his ideas, i believe they are still doing a great job keeping the standards. Except for the iPad Mini which i believe Jobs was wrong to be against (it was the easiest market to take control of and he denied it because he thought there was no future in 7inch tablets...), i think Apple is still doing a good job keeping on the same track they were on beforehand.
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People usually asks me for the iOS versus Android debate and i always ask them a very simple question about hardware; would you rather have a phone made out of plastic or made out of metal? Fairly easy to choose.
I really can't see how you could break a 4S. Its Titanium Framework/sheel makes it pretty hard to break.(bold) You're kidding right?
It's true that in Enterprises I-E and Windows are required, simply because the working models these enterprises use were always based on Microsoft models. Now take a Mac-Only environment, you would defenetly need less ITs. Newer shared scanners are e-scan, which means they e-mail stuff. Mac or Win, it'll work no matter what. Printers are even way easier to manage with Airprint.
An entire enterprise could easily work Mac-Only and it would still do great.