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Title: Difference in blue switches
Post by: oppz197 on Tue, 23 July 2013, 20:36:37

So today I bought a birthday gift (Razer Black Widow with blue switches)for my brother  :cool: I tried to type on it afterwards and comparing to my QFR blues it feels different...
I know they are both blue switches but why?

Title: Re: Difference in blue switches
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 23 July 2013, 20:41:01

Full size vs tenkeyless, different plate material (aluminum vs steel), different keycaps, different batch of switches, assembly differences, overall quality of materials differences...

Title: Re: Difference in blue switches
Post by: oppz197 on Tue, 23 July 2013, 20:45:03

I feel like the typing experience with QFR is much higher quality

Title: Re: Difference in blue switches
Post by: Smeagol_RP on Tue, 23 July 2013, 20:46:00

Man, you're a bad brother. :))

Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 23 July 2013, 20:41:01

Full size vs tenkeyless, different plate material (aluminum vs steel), different keycaps, different batch of switches, assembly differences, overall quality of materials differences...

Makes sense...

Title: Re: Difference in blue switches
Post by: oppz197 on Tue, 23 July 2013, 20:50:18

 :-[ :-[ I type on it after he opened it

Title: Re: Difference in blue switches
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 23 July 2013, 20:50:30

I would also expect a Costar-made QFR to feel better than a RBW, given the general consensus here that Razer mechanicals are of inferior quality.

Title: Re: Difference in blue switches
Post by: oppz197 on Tue, 23 July 2013, 21:01:26

Btw which of the material is best for keycaps abs pbt pom?

Title: Re: Difference in blue switches
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 23 July 2013, 21:31:13

The verdict is that it's down to personal preferences.  You will find people who like each of those kinds of plastic for their keycaps, and then different profiles and thicknesses.  Durability-wise, in terms of developing shine, it's PBT > POM > ABS.  Otherwise, you may have to experiment yourself to find what you prefer.

Title: Re: Difference in blue switches
Post by: oppz197 on Tue, 23 July 2013, 21:33:39

Whats the difference between those 3 btw u know what kind of caps does qfr uses?

Title: Re: Difference in blue switches
Post by: Smeagol_RP on Tue, 23 July 2013, 21:42:29

Quote from: oppz197 on Tue, 23 July 2013, 21:33:39

Whats the difference between those 3 btw u know what kind of caps does qfr uses?

QFR is ABS.

Title: Re: Difference in blue switches
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 23 July 2013, 21:43:14

QFR uses ABS, as does the Razer keyboard.

Here's something you may find interesting for different keycap materials for Blue switches:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42133.msg903796

You can read about different keycap materials here:
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Main_Page

Title: Re: Difference in blue switches
Post by: Xenderwind on Tue, 23 July 2013, 21:43:20

QFR has abs

Title: Re: Difference in blue switches
Post by: oppz197 on Tue, 23 July 2013, 22:12:26

Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 23 July 2013, 21:43:14

QFR uses ABS, as does the Razer keyboard.

Here's something you may find interesting for different keycap materials for Blue switches:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42133.msg903796

You can read about different keycap materials here:
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Main_Page

Thanks for your info man :D

Title: Re: Difference in blue switches
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 24 July 2013, 11:49:26

Razer or iOne in general use ABS on standard, but the backlight caps I think are made of nylon.

Title: Re: Difference in blue switches
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 24 July 2013, 11:51:48

Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 24 July 2013, 11:49:26

Razer use ABS on standard, but the backlight caps I think are made of nylon.

That's what I've been wondering about--same for Ducky Shine and CM Storm backlit caps.  They say "ABS" in descriptions,  but they feel very different from normal ABS and are quite soft vs thin doubleshot ABS--when bending the sides.  I figured it was some sort of special ABS that's  translucent and is correspondingly softer, then coated in whatever color to be impenetrable for LED light.