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geekhack Community => Keyboard Keycaps => Topic started by: growler on Thu, 25 July 2013, 06:06:24

Title: HHKB Row Heights
Post by: growler on Thu, 25 July 2013, 06:06:24

Hi,

I have done some searching for this, but not managed to find a data sheet or similar to give me confidence I have the right answer ...

I like the idea of a light blue or other wasd mod, but ... I use vim/i3 and basically hjkl are my arrow keys for everything. I guess the ASD are on the same row, so that would fit 3 of the 4 keys, but is the W the same size as the keys below?

The other thing I am considering is buying a completely blank topre for realforce set, just pilfering the keys from that. At least this one set could do keyboards as I could also pinch the F and 3 others from this row and maintain the 'bump' on the J key. Obiously this only works for completely blank keysets.

Any thoughts on this, or have I missed something very simple?

Title: Re: HHKB Row Heights
Post by: Dgsbllx on Thu, 25 July 2013, 06:11:43

W is a different profile to A, S + D

Title: Re: HHKB Row Heights
Post by: growler on Thu, 25 July 2013, 07:41:43

Quote from: Dgsbllx on Thu, 25 July 2013, 06:11:43

W is a different profile to A, S + D

Fair enough, thanks.

What about the ASDF rows on Realforce -vs- HHKB, are they at least the same do you know?

Title: Re: HHKB Row Heights
Post by: Dgsbllx on Thu, 25 July 2013, 07:45:48

I'm going to say they are the same because i have an Orange WASD set from Elitekeyboards which fits Topre Realforce and HHKB

Title: Re: HHKB Row Heights
Post by: growler on Thu, 25 July 2013, 08:06:46

Right then. Should I go for $110 realforce blank set, to get two usable hjkl sets... I guess EK is the only place to buy these?

Hmm, there is some Japan festival on in London this weekend, maybe there is a PFU or Topre stand!? :P

Title: Re: HHKB Row Heights
Post by: cdmccart on Thu, 25 July 2013, 11:49:12

I saw on another thread that someone has a hhkb pro jp and they purchased a blue set of topre keys off amazon JP.


http://www.amazon.com/Topre-Japanese-Replacement-Realforce-Sa0100-kt2/dp/B004U8IVPE/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374770903&sr=1-4 (http://www.amazon.com/Topre-Japanese-Replacement-Realforce-Sa0100-kt2/dp/B004U8IVPE/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374770903&sr=1-4)

Title: Re: HHKB Row Heights
Post by: growler on Thu, 25 July 2013, 12:02:00

Quote from: cdmccart on Thu, 25 July 2013, 11:49:12

I saw on another thread that someone has a hhkb pro jp and they purchased a blue set of topre keys off amazon JP.


http://www.amazon.com/Topre-Japanese-Replacement-Realforce-Sa0100-kt2/dp/B004U8IVPE/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374770903&sr=1-4 (http://www.amazon.com/Topre-Japanese-Replacement-Realforce-Sa0100-kt2/dp/B004U8IVPE/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374770903&sr=1-4)

Nice spot! I'll see if I can find any blank sets... might work out a bit cheaper.

Title: Re: HHKB Row Heights
Post by: cdmccart on Thu, 25 July 2013, 13:27:50

I think the only issue you will encounter with the realforce keys is the issue with the Right shift.  There isn't a direct key swap.  I've heard of people rotating caps lock (?) to achieve it.

I'm thinking about swapping the alphabet keys / numbers for something similar to the blue.  I'll leave all the other grey keys alone.  I'll post pics when i find money for it [or land on community chest]

Title: Re: HHKB Row Heights
Post by: cdmccart on Thu, 25 July 2013, 14:53:10

found the missing link (sort of)

jdcarpe is behind this one:

http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/hhkb-pro-jp-t3524.html (http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/hhkb-pro-jp-t3524.html)


the board I was thinking of earlier...

now, do these keys also work on the standard HHKB pro 2?  maybe someone else can fill in that answer.

thanks!