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Title: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: jameslr on Wed, 31 July 2013, 20:14:46
Looks like CM is putting out a full size backlit board now. The CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate (http://coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=10071&product_name=CM%20Storm%20QuickFire%20Ultimate) It comes in Blue, White, and Red backlights with Blue, Brown, and Red switch options (respective to backlight colors). Not sure what MSRP on it, but if they beat the Shine Zero - maybe this would be worth getting for an entry level full size.

Gonna be hard to beat the Shine Zero in price though. Still you can never have too many options I guess :)
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 31 July 2013, 21:12:23
Still got the same slightly odd bottom row layout thought.

Wonder how big that space bar is?
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: linziyi on Wed, 31 July 2013, 21:31:42
x6 spacebar?
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: Hyde on Wed, 31 July 2013, 21:33:51
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh nooooooooo I thought they were gonna make CM Storm QuickFire XTS (backlit version of XT).

I wonder if they went for this route to save production cost since most of the design is already done.  Also iOne have been doing backlit boards for a while now while Costar doesn't have too many backlit models.

And the spacebar is probably same size as blackwidow which is 6 units long.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: inteli722 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 21:37:07
This is just a fully backlit Quickfire Pro, which, yes, does have the 6x spacebar. I hope they fixed the issue I've had, where the NKRO over USB causes issues with compatibility.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: Hyde on Wed, 31 July 2013, 21:41:39
This is just a fully backlit Quickfire Pro, which, yes, does have the 6x spacebar. I hope they fixed the issue I've had, where the NKRO over USB causes issues with compatibility.

I think that's why it give you the option to toggle between 6KRO and NKRO.  When you're on OS that's not compatible with NKRO (like Mac) then use 6KRO.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 21:49:50
Looks really nice, I like the options of different back lights.  CM is making moves! :D
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 31 July 2013, 22:22:55
This is just a fully backlit Quickfire Pro, which, yes, does have the 6x spacebar. I hope they fixed the issue I've had, where the NKRO over USB causes issues with compatibility.

I think that's why it give you the option to toggle between 6KRO and NKRO.  When you're on OS that's not compatible with NKRO (like Mac) then use 6KRO.

less you need unix, you don't need mac
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: davkol on Thu, 01 August 2013, 05:54:34
Didn't Carter say that Pro was their last iOne made keyboard? Son, I'm disappoint...
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 01 August 2013, 07:09:55
Yeah this board is going in the totally wrong direction. They just stuck LEDs in the pro that nobody liked anyways.  ::)
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: inteli722 on Thu, 01 August 2013, 07:11:34
This is just a fully backlit Quickfire Pro, which, yes, does have the 6x spacebar. I hope they fixed the issue I've had, where the NKRO over USB causes issues with compatibility.

I think that's why it give you the option to toggle between 6KRO and NKRO.  When you're on OS that's not compatible with NKRO (like Mac) then use 6KRO.

Yeah, but I've even had Windows computers where it won't boot with the keyboard installed, which is where I have issues.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: Melchior on Mon, 05 August 2013, 01:51:57
I second that; the NKRO mode causes WIERD-ness with the typematic rate - and keys that don't function as expected (insert key locks up).

On Windows 7 no-less...

Luckily it can be forced to 6kro but still... a most unwelcome surprise.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: Carter on Mon, 05 August 2013, 16:57:41
Didn't Carter say that Pro was their last iOne made keyboard? Son, I'm disappoint...

Yes, I did make this comment that we would never do a new project with iOne. We technically did not open up new tooling with this item and just refreshed it based upon what our user feedback was. It was never in the plan, but the numbers on QF pro are very tough to ignore.I removed the logos (Pictures havent been updated) and just added in full LED lighting, and new color scheme to follow TK Structure.

Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: Carter on Mon, 05 August 2013, 16:58:46
Yeah this board is going in the totally wrong direction. They just stuck LEDs in the pro that nobody liked anyways.  ::)

Ha, this is where GH and the real world differ. Quickfire pro was actually the highest selling keyboard in pure RR for CM. Shocking, I know....

We still maintain a very elegant, costar built series that continues to carry the minimalist look (Rapid/Stealth/XT) and more in the future. While we may have an XTS in the future.... I categorize LED lighting towards gamers. Majority of hardcore gamers couldn't careless about which OEM & stabilizers are on the boards.

As always, cant please them all.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: Hyde on Mon, 05 August 2013, 23:39:46
Ha, this is where GH and the real world differ. Quickfire pro was actually the highest selling keyboard in pure RR for CM. Shocking, I know....

I think it's because QuickFire Pro is the only keyboard in the line up that offers normal full size layout (no macro keys and not tenkeyless).  So it's only natural that if people want a normal layout they only have this choice.  And in my opinion QuickFire Pro does look better than CM Storm Trigger.  However I suspect that given if both XTS and QuickFire Ultimate exists, XTS will probably sell just as well or even better.

Though I'll agree with you that majority of the people probably won't be able to tell the difference between OEM and stabilizers so it might not be that huge of an issue.

As always, cant please them all.

lol yupe GH is a very unique community with strong opinions.  Gonna be pretty hard to please this mass.  :P

But you guys are doing good since CM Storm is one of the very few companies that listen to customer feedbacks, so I say keep going what you're doing lol.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 06 August 2013, 04:42:29
We still maintain a very elegant, costar built series that continues to carry the minimalist look (Rapid/Stealth/XT) and more in the future. While we may have an XTS in the future.... I categorize LED lighting towards gamers. Majority of hardcore gamers couldn't careless about which OEM & stabilizers are on the boards.

As always, cant please them all.

Carter, any idea of a backlit MX Green keyboard? I'm probably getting an XT with Green to try it out, but it'd be nice if you offered the Ultimate with it given that you've already put it on another keyboard and it is, as I quote, 'Ultimate'.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Tue, 06 August 2013, 14:29:59
I think it's because QuickFire Pro is the only keyboard in the line up that offers normal full size layout (no macro keys and not tenkeyless).  So it's only natural that if people want a normal layout they only have this choice.  And in my opinion QuickFire Pro does look better than CM Storm Trigger.  However I suspect that given if both XTS and QuickFire Ultimate exists, XTS will probably sell just as well or even better.

I bet the XTS sells better to us, but that the QFU still sells better to normal people. Gamers seem to prefer the bling over the minimalist boards. :)

lol yupe GH is a very unique community with strong opinions.  Gonna be pretty hard to please this mass.  :P

But you guys are doing good since CM Storm is one of the very few companies that listen to customer feedbacks, so I say keep going what you're doing lol.

Strongly agree. I really appreciate the effort that CM and its reps put in.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: Carter on Tue, 06 August 2013, 17:53:36
We still maintain a very elegant, costar built series that continues to carry the minimalist look (Rapid/Stealth/XT) and more in the future. While we may have an XTS in the future.... I categorize LED lighting towards gamers. Majority of hardcore gamers couldn't careless about which OEM & stabilizers are on the boards.

As always, cant please them all.

Carter, any idea of a backlit MX Green keyboard? I'm probably getting an XT with Green to try it out, but it'd be nice if you offered the Ultimate with it given that you've already put it on another keyboard and it is, as I quote, 'Ultimate'.

We will have a green TK w/ green backlighting.

For business purposes & series positioning. We will not be pushing greens switches into iOne at this current time.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 August 2013, 08:21:47
Any news on clears?
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: phx on Thu, 08 August 2013, 08:48:48
there is still no high quality Costar boards with full backlight. :\
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: Carter on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:09:50
Any news on clears?

Delayed, long story but it its at least another 1.5 months out. Trying our best but switch availability changes daily.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: Carter on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:11:31
there is still no high quality Costar boards with full backlight. :\

There is a reason for that. LED & costar havent been the best solution for anyone. Not to mention the majority of users who prefer LED have no idea who costar is and would rather not pay a premium.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:18:54
Any news on clears?

Delayed, long story but it its at least another 1.5 months out. Trying our best but switch availability changes daily.

just buy them from 7bit over at DT ;) :P
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: phx on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:21:49
there is still no high quality Costar boards with full backlight. :\

There is a reason for that. LED & costar havent been the best solution for anyone. Not to mention the majority of users who prefer LED have no idea who costar is and would rather not pay a premium.

hmmm very good point.
Never knew Costar is more expensive. At least I still have the QFR to throw all my money at... still patiently waiting for QFR with clears.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: oryan_dunn on Tue, 13 August 2013, 12:06:44
First post here...

Quick background.. I had been using a Unicomp for quite a while, but recently got back into gaming.  The 2KRO was somewhat of a surprise to me (not being a keyboard junkie) and it wasn't working for me with games.  I looked around, and found the QF Pro on sale after rebate for $59.  I thought the browns would be a good choice for gaming (but clears would have been better).

I really like the QF Pro, but I miss the super clicky BS switches, and the partial backlight annoys me more than I thought.  When gaming, I really don't need the gaming cluster lit, but rather everything that's not lit.  I always have trouble finding the 6, 7, and other keys right of the gaming cluster, since you have to lift your hand to hit them.  But, overall, I've very happy with it, especially for the price.

Ideally, I'd want a QF Ultimate with the Cherry MX Green switches wtih full RGB backlight and separate volume/mute controls.  Seeing as that won't happen, the next best would be a green QF Ultimate with green LED.  And knowing that won't happen, well, I'll have to keep my eye out for a full 104 key mx green keyboard with nkro and full backlighting.

Edit: after a bit more research, the XTS with greens looks like it'll have green backlight.  That could be the keyboard for me.  6KRO should be enough, as it's more than 2KRO which wasn't working for me.  I like the browns, but I miss my superflossed Unicomp.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: Riddixk51PB on Wed, 14 August 2013, 18:10:13
Carter, any idea when the CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate will be available at retailers?
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: Carter on Wed, 14 August 2013, 18:52:25
Carter, any idea when the CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate will be available at retailers?

Red switches will be hitting as soon as next week. Followed by Brown & Blue a couple weeks after.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 14 August 2013, 19:29:20
Carter do you think you guys will ever try whites?
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: Carter on Wed, 14 August 2013, 21:15:26
Carter do you think you guys will ever try whites?

Honestly, I have a white board and find it identical in feeling to greens. They are slightly cheaper but harder to get.... From business stand point, its one or the other, and usually availability wins.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 14 August 2013, 21:51:17
Carter do you think you guys will ever try whites?

Honestly, I have a white board and find it identical in feeling to greens. They are slightly cheaper but harder to get.... From business stand point, its one or the other, and usually availability wins.

Curious what board do you have?
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 16 August 2013, 06:10:34
This looks just like the Pros.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 16 August 2013, 06:55:09
This looks just like the Pros.

It is the pro just with backlighting.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: jadow on Wed, 25 December 2013, 09:47:07
just wondering. Would any1 be interested in duplicating the PCB and selling it ? bec I have a quickfire pro and would love to convert it to a full backlight.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 25 December 2013, 16:21:24
just wondering. Would any1 be interested in duplicating the PCB and selling it ? bec I have a quickfire pro and would love to convert it to a full backlight.

You'd probably be up against copyright issues if you tried to copy a commercial keyboard PCB.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 25 December 2013, 20:09:56
just wondering. Would any1 be interested in duplicating the PCB and selling it ? bec I have a quickfire pro and would love to convert it to a full backlight.

You'd probably be up against copyright issues if you tried to copy a commercial keyboard PCB.

Maybe just match the mounting holes?
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: jadow on Thu, 26 December 2013, 03:34:29
just wondering. Would any1 be interested in duplicating the PCB and selling it ? bec I have a quickfire pro and would love to convert it to a full backlight.

You'd probably be up against copyright issues if you tried to copy a commercial keyboard PCB.

True and the niche would be very small. I am just exploring the possibility.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: terran5992 on Thu, 26 December 2013, 04:47:34
just wondering. Would any1 be interested in duplicating the PCB and selling it ? bec I have a quickfire pro and would love to convert it to a full backlight.

You'd probably be up against copyright issues if you tried to copy a commercial keyboard PCB.

True and the niche would be very small. I am just exploring the possibility.

Why would you want to replicate a coolermaster PCB?
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: jadow on Thu, 26 December 2013, 06:18:28
just wondering. Would any1 be interested in duplicating the PCB and selling it ? bec I have a quickfire pro and would love to convert it to a full backlight.

You'd probably be up against copyright issues if you tried to copy a commercial keyboard PCB.

True and the niche would be very small. I am just exploring the possibility.

Why would you want to replicate a coolermaster PCB?

Bec im using a quickfire pro .I would hope to re-use the same plate, casing and keys. And maybe the electrical components too.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 26 December 2013, 08:17:58
just wondering. Would any1 be interested in duplicating the PCB and selling it ? bec I have a quickfire pro and would love to convert it to a full backlight.

You'd probably be up against copyright issues if you tried to copy a commercial keyboard PCB.

True and the niche would be very small. I am just exploring the possibility.

Why would you want to replicate a coolermaster PCB?

Bec im using a quickfire pro .I would hope to re-use the same plate, casing and keys. And maybe the electrical components too.

If you just want backlighting it'd be cheaper to buy the new backlit version.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: jadow on Thu, 26 December 2013, 08:36:07
true. I could just buy another a blue key red backlight.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: audioave10 on Thu, 26 December 2013, 10:51:47
I want to give a big "Thanks" to Carter for being in here. I have a Quick-Fire and its worked very well. I'll be watching the CM plans for future boards.
Title: Re: CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 26 December 2013, 19:31:39
I want to give a big "Thanks" to Carter for being in here. I have a Quick-Fire and its worked very well. I'll be watching the CM plans for future boards.

+1

And Rajiv too :)