if you don't mind about build quality go with blackwidow ultimate leds+macros, but as said build quality ain't that good;)
Seriously, why are people always trashing Razer's build quality? They're far 'better' than the pcb mounted Cherry G80s I own, and I'm quite happy with Cherry.
Hate to say it, but its one of the worst purchases I have ever made. Its cheap, very cheap. The gloss body is just stupid and the build quality is creaky....not to mention Im on my 3rd or 4th one already due to broken switches out of the box.
Seriously, why are people always trashing Razer's build quality? They're far 'better' than the pcb mounted Cherry G80s I own, and I'm quite happy with Cherry.Every post a G80 gripe. Sounds like you just don't like PCB mounted switches.
If you need seriously good build quality, go for Model Fs then. Same price, twice the weight. Lots of steel there to satisfy 'build quality conscious' people.
Also, Brown are kinda not meant for gaming, and that's a little ironic to put them on a gaming keyboard... ._.?
You can use any switch to game. It's just personal preference. There's no switch was built to be "optimized for gaming".
You can use any switch to game. It's just personal preference. There's no switch was built to be "optimized for gaming".
Can we write this somewhere on the forum in a very big font, possibly in bright red?
You can use any switch to game. It's just personal preference. There's no switch was built to be "optimized for gaming".
Can we write this somewhere on the forum in a very big font, possibly in bright red?
I have it in the Simple Questions Simple Answers thread. But it's kind of hidden. I can always add it.
It ain't no secret for nobody that Blacks are mostly known as the "Gaming" basic switch type, while Browns are mostly meant for the tactile feedback, therefore typing.
It ain't no secret for nobody that Blacks are mostly known as the "Gaming" basic switch type, while Browns are mostly meant for the tactile feedback, therefore typing.
Browns tactile feedback is barely noticeable when gaming because you usually bottom out. I never heard of anybody having issues with Browns for gaming apart from this one guy recently who thought they were too heavy.
It ain't no secret for nobody that Blacks are mostly known as the "Gaming" basic switch type, while Browns are mostly meant for the tactile feedback, therefore typing.
It ain't no secret for nobody that Blacks are mostly known as the "Gaming" basic switch type, while Browns are mostly meant for the tactile feedback, therefore typing.
Um, I missed this memo. Just because CM and Razer and whomever else tells me that doesn't make the marketing true. FPS players prefer linear switches because they say it makes double tapping easier. What if I play SC2 or Civ5 where I don't really have to double tap? Generalizations are silly. Don't buy the hype.
Swagcap eh? :P
Thanks everybody for the answers. The g710+ is a good product but is a bit expensive (now $149.99), and I guess that is for the backlight, but as I don't care about that I was looking for another cheapest option, with QUALITY and brown switches
I alredy have a good mouse, and it's $169.99 :(Thanks everybody for the answers. The g710+ is a good product but is a bit expensive (now $149.99), and I guess that is for the backlight, but as I don't care about that I was looking for another cheapest option, with QUALITY and brown switches
Check on NCIX you might get the free mouse sooner or later if they still have it in stock.
Just so you know.
I alredy have a good mouse, and it's $169.99 :(Thanks everybody for the answers. The g710+ is a good product but is a bit expensive (now $149.99), and I guess that is for the backlight, but as I don't care about that I was looking for another cheapest option, with QUALITY and brown switches
Check on NCIX you might get the free mouse sooner or later if they still have it in stock.
Just so you know.
a poker ii is like the total opposite of the g710+.....
like seriously....in what usecases are those two swappable?
ps, you can't say macros are useless and then say that the p2 macros are the best thing evar
Im new here but thought I'd put in my 2c....in my opinion keyboards like the corsairs blackwidows and Logitech should be avoided because the build quality of there cases is lacking and the soldering on the boards arn't always the best, they also seem to have an above average failure rate this being said they are much better then rubber domes. if you just want macro's so you can swap keys around and to add media keys... not for more complex setups then a custom controller might be your best bet and to that end i would recommend that you consider buying a second hand board (from some one here at geek hack# that either comes with an after market controller or at least one that can take one you should be able to get something like this for under $100. i can tell you as some one that owns three blackwidows a wasd and a corsair k 90 these keyboards are gimmicky and cheaply made #if i only knew better at the time# plus they cost a lot more then a good second hand board #that feels better in the first place).and what model do you think is a GOOD second hand board? I'm not neccesary wanna a Logitech, I wanna a GOOD Brown switch Keyboard
and what model do you think is a GOOD second hand board? I'm not neccesary wanna a Logitech, I wanna a GOOD Brown switch Keyboard
Im new here but thought I'd put in my 2c....in my opinion keyboards like the corsairs blackwidows and Logitech should be avoided because the build quality of there cases is lacking and the soldering on the boards arn't always the best, they also seem to have an above average failure rate this being said they are much better then rubber domes. if you just want macro's so you can swap keys around and to add media keys... not for more complex setups then a custom controller might be your best bet and to that end i would recommend that you consider buying a second hand board (from some one here at geek hack# that either comes with an after market controller or at least one that can take one you should be able to get something like this for under $100. i can tell you as some one that owns three blackwidows a wasd and a corsair k 90 these keyboards are gimmicky and cheaply made #if i only knew better at the time# plus they cost a lot more then a good second hand board #that feels better in the first place).and what model do you think is a GOOD second hand board? I'm not neccesary wanna a Logitech, I wanna a GOOD Brown switch Keyboard
Beauty is totally subjective. A Filco tenkeyless with blank keycaps is a rainbow to my eyes. But after reading your posts, I get the sense that you like backlighting, and given the knowledge that you were about to spring for the G710+, I assume you like flashy stuff. You are definitely not a minimalist, like a lot of people on this forum. So I'd recommend a Ducky Shine 3. It's a beautiful keyboard for people who like backlighting and fancy features like that, it's build qualityYou know where i can found the Ducky Shine 3?has nothing on Filcois decent, and Ducky is a reputable manufacturer of mechanical keyboards.
Or you can take a look at the WASD V2 keyboard.
If you're going to travel, maybe get something smaller like a Poker 2 or a Filco TKL? Easier to handle.I forgot to say that I'm going to travel for a long time, so I wanna a big/normal keyboard
g710 is a good choice
g710 is a good choice
it is NEVER a good choice, ever, ever.
Beauty is totally subjective. A Filco tenkeyless with blank keycaps is a rainbow to my eyes. But after reading your posts, I get the sense that you like backlighting, and given the knowledge that you were about to spring for the G710+, I assume you like flashy stuff. You are definitely not a minimalist, like a lot of people on this forum. So I'd recommend a Ducky Shine 3. It's a beautiful keyboard for people who like backlighting and fancy features like that, it's build qualityYou know where i can found the Ducky Shine 3?has nothing on Filcois decent, and Ducky is a reputable manufacturer of mechanical keyboards.
Or you can take a look at the WASD V2 keyboard.If you're going to travel, maybe get something smaller like a Poker 2 or a Filco TKL? Easier to handle.I forgot to say that I'm going to travel for a long time, so I wanna a big/normal keyboard
You can use any switch to game. It's just personal preference. There's no switch was built to be "optimized for gaming".
Can we write this somewhere on the forum in a very big font, possibly in bright red?
Thanks!Beauty is totally subjective. A Filco tenkeyless with blank keycaps is a rainbow to my eyes. But after reading your posts, I get the sense that you like backlighting, and given the knowledge that you were about to spring for the G710+, I assume you like flashy stuff. You are definitely not a minimalist, like a lot of people on this forum. So I'd recommend a Ducky Shine 3. It's a beautiful keyboard for people who like backlighting and fancy features like that, it's build qualityYou know where i can found the Ducky Shine 3?has nothing on Filcois decent, and Ducky is a reputable manufacturer of mechanical keyboards.
Or you can take a look at the WASD V2 keyboard.If you're going to travel, maybe get something smaller like a Poker 2 or a Filco TKL? Easier to handle.I forgot to say that I'm going to travel for a long time, so I wanna a big/normal keyboard
If you're in the USA, you can find them at mechanicalkeyboards.com. If you're in Australia, try Pccasegear.com
Well, basically it comes down to this.
You didn't buy an ergodox ---> FAIL...
don't worry though..
This mistake is easily corrected by ---> Buy an Ergodox ---> WIN
I think "Enthusiast" is a bit too mild for TP. I consider myself an ErgoDox enthusiast, but TP takes it to a whole new level.
I think "Enthusiast" is a bit too mild for TP. I consider myself an ErgoDox enthusiast, but TP takes it to a whole new level.
Ergodox Zealot
It ain't no secret for nobody that Blacks are mostly known as the "Gaming" basic switch type, while Browns are mostly meant for the tactile feedback, therefore typing.
Browns tactile feedback is barely noticeable when gaming because you usually bottom out. I never heard of anybody having issues with Browns for gaming apart from this one guy recently who thought they were too heavy.
I actually have issues with browns while FPS gaming in games where you have to hold down the "w" key all the time like Borderlands 2. It makes my hand hurt. I think they are fine other wise. I have started to use blues which I thought had slightly more resistance to bottom out but they certainly don't make my hand hurt to hold them down.
I actually have issues with browns while FPS gaming in games where you have to hold down the "w" key all the time like Borderlands 2. It makes my hand hurt. I think they are fine other wise. I have started to use blues which I thought had slightly more resistance to bottom out but they certainly don't make my hand hurt to hold them down.
I had the same problem with browns, blues, reds, and Topres. Blacks and Clears didn't, so I'm pretty sure it has to do with the lightness of the spring.
I actually have issues with browns while FPS gaming in games where you have to hold down the "w" key all the time like Borderlands 2. It makes my hand hurt. I think they are fine other wise. I have started to use blues which I thought had slightly more resistance to bottom out but they certainly don't make my hand hurt to hold them down.
I had the same problem with browns, blues, reds, and Topres. Blacks and Clears didn't, so I'm pretty sure it has to do with the lightness of the spring.
My end solution was just getting Carpel Tunnel surgery (not a joke). This solved all my problems I can't believe I waited almost 10 years to get this done. I was up and typing the next day (Really slow but still) and I can finally play video games again! Best $18k I ever spent. :)
I actually have issues with browns while FPS gaming in games where you have to hold down the "w" key all the time like Borderlands 2. It makes my hand hurt. I think they are fine other wise. I have started to use blues which I thought had slightly more resistance to bottom out but they certainly don't make my hand hurt to hold them down.
I had the same problem with browns, blues, reds, and Topres. Blacks and Clears didn't, so I'm pretty sure it has to do with the lightness of the spring.
My end solution was just getting Carpel Tunnel surgery (not a joke). This solved all my problems I can't believe I waited almost 10 years to get this done. I was up and typing the next day (Really slow but still) and I can finally play video games again! Best $18k I ever spent. :)
Yikes! Pretty drastic solution, but glad it worked out for you :)
Swagcap eh? :PShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/0VF2eyh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/W5wlJZX.png)
HOLY JESUS CHRIST **** MAGNETIC APOCALYPTIC CHAOTIC BALLZEATING MONKEYNESS OF DOOMSDAY ARNOLD SHWARZENEGGIR SH1TFUKK GOD JESUS GOOD LORD OF ALL MERCY SATAN CHRIST MOTHER OF DOOM
DAD BRING IN THE CREDIT CARD I HAVE TO BUY FOR 399$ TO GET THE CAP OMG
I actually have issues with browns while FPS gaming in games where you have to hold down the "w" key all the time like Borderlands 2. It makes my hand hurt. I think they are fine other wise. I have started to use blues which I thought had slightly more resistance to bottom out but they certainly don't make my hand hurt to hold them down.
I had the same problem with browns, blues, reds, and Topres. Blacks and Clears didn't, so I'm pretty sure it has to do with the lightness of the spring.
My end solution was just getting Carpel Tunnel surgery (not a joke). This solved all my problems I can't believe I waited almost 10 years to get this done. I was up and typing the next day (Really slow but still) and I can finally play video games again! Best $18k I ever spent. :)
Swagcap eh? :PShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/0VF2eyh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/W5wlJZX.png)
HOLY JESUS CHRIST **** MAGNETIC APOCALYPTIC CHAOTIC BALLZEATING MONKEYNESS OF DOOMSDAY ARNOLD SHWARZENEGGIR SH1TFUKK GOD JESUS GOOD LORD OF ALL MERCY SATAN CHRIST MOTHER OF DOOM
DAD BRING IN THE CREDIT CARD I HAVE TO BUY FOR 399$ TO GET THE CAP OMG
DOES THE BASEBALL CAP HAVE LED'S TOO?
You can use any switch to game. It's just personal preference. There's no switch was built to be "optimized for gaming".
Can we write this somewhere on the forum in a very big font, possibly in bright red?
You can use any switch to game. It's just personal preference. There's no switch was built to be "optimized for gaming".
Can we write this somewhere on the forum in a very big font, possibly in bright red?
SWITCH TYPE IS A PERSONAL PREFERENCE
BLUES/OTHER SWITCH WILL NOT INHIBIT YOUR GAMING ABILITIES VS BLACKS/OTHER SWITCH
DON'T ASK IF YOU SHOULD GET REDS OR TOPRE
TRY THEM AND DECIDE WHICH ONE YOU LIKE MORE
REDS WON'T MAKE YOU TYPE MUCH SLOWER THAN ANY OTHER SWITCH
IF YOU LIKE THE FEEL, GO FOR IT
Thimplum, I challenge you for GH title of "Master of All Ponies" 8)
Thimplum, I challenge you for GH title of "Master of All Ponies" :cool:
Thimplum, I challenge you for GH title of "Master of All Ponies" :cool:
Which episode is my avatar from?
Thimplum, I challenge you for GH title of "Master of All Ponies" :cool:
Which episode is my avatar from?
Thimplum, I challenge you for GH title of "Master of All Ponies" :cool:
Which episode is my avatar from?
Easy. Season 2 episode 25
Ikr? especially that part about Dashie's racing numbers. I got 0/24 for that
Ikr? especially that part about Dashie's racing numbers. I got 0/24 for that
It starts out really easy too then bam! In your face.
Well, thanks to everybody for your answers, those help me a lot! Finally I decided to bought the g710+ for $89.99 in ebay :cool:
I hope enjoy my new keyboard
Good bye and regards
Logitech I think puts o-rings under the key caps for sound dampening similar to the ones from WASD. in my opinion they only feel alright with linear switches but with tactile like brown it changes the feel too much.
What is o-rings?
What is o-rings?
Small rubber or silicone rings that you put around the stems of the keycaps to dampen the bottoming-out sound.