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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: xSpartanCx on Tue, 06 August 2013, 21:52:53
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I've tried both blue, brown, and buckling spring switches yet can't feel the "bump" while typing, but I certainly can hear it. Am I the only one that doesn't really feel any tactile clicks? I can when I'm gaming or slowly pressing switches, but with my typing speed I can't really feel any bump or click. Are there any switches that are more tactile? I've tried some nice membrane keyboards at my local Best Buy and they had quite a nice, crisp click to them, but I don't trust that it'll last long (for example, a Microsoft keyboard and the Razer Nostromo keypad). What's a good keyboard with a solid tactile feeling? Or is it normal to not really be able to feel a click while typing fast?
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I heard clears and greens are tactile.
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So on the blue MX if you press the switch about halfway down you start to feel slight resistance then it pops (click) and slides the rest of the way down?? If you don't feel that then there must be something wrong with your board, or you have ogre fingers and nerve damage. (Sorry, if you do)
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So on the blue MX if you press the switch about halfway down you start to feel slight resistance then it pops (click) and slides the rest of the way down?? If you don't feel that then there must be something wrong with your board, or you have ogre fingers and nerve damage. (Sorry, if you do)
I only feel that when I slowly press the key, but when I type fast I press it to fast to notice.
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I heard clears and greens are tactile.
I also heard this is true.
*typing on a WASD v2 w/ clears
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Even on clears the tactile bump can fade if you hit a decent speed. The only switch I've never experienced that on is a buckling spring. But that's probably just because it feels and sounds like you're typing on an old tin-can
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Am I the only one?
Nope. I'm on the same boat as you, but I don't mind at all though, since I don't spend all my time typing at over 100 WPM (enough to not feel the tactility) unless I'm doing them typing test competition thingys (which I'm not a fan of). ;)
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Toprek maybe ;D
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I think ALPS produce a better tactile sensation because they tend to put the actuation / point of greatest resistance near the top of the stroke; You get the bump right near the point where your finger also makes contact. And if you somehow don't notice that, the tendency of ALPS to 'collapse' right after the bump will make you more likely to bottom out... you will notice something in your fingers.
Sometimes I wonder what an active electromechanical feedback switch would be like, if it were ever invented. Perhaps like typing on a Selectric typewriter, only better.
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I only feel that when I slowly press the key, but when I type fast I press it to fast to notice.
I have heard a lot of people say that about blues. I also agree ALPS are generaly more tactile. BS is the king though, I don't know how you can miss the tactility of that.
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You should try to type with less force. Your fingers are punching the keys instead of dancing on them.
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This is a joke, right?
With earplugs and blindfold you couldn't tell when a tactile switch has activated?
You should see a doctor.
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Hmmm, you should be able to feel it.
Maybe whether or not you touch-type may have something to do with it. I can imagine that if you "hunt-and-peck", using pretty much only your index fingers to slam keys one by one, you might not be able to notice it. Other than that I do not have a clue how you can not feel the tactile feedback on blue switches. I even feel them on my browns. They are pretty subtle, and it is not like I am constantly aware of them, but they are definitely there.
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I got my first brown board recently and I agree, while it is subtle, it is there. It's not really all that noticeable when you're engrossed in typing but when I'm gaming it makes the switch feel a bit "gritty" rather than tactile. I am going to use my brown ducky for work and get a wasd v2 with reds for home because of the bump.
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I image your fingers are incredibly strong and you're typing at ~200wpm. If you can't feel bs there probably isnt a switch you will feel. Unless you somehow manage to spring mod a model m with insanely stiff springs and still have it work.
Or type only on model f spacebars.
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I have heard a lot of people say that about blues. I also agree ALPS are generaly more tactile. BS is the king though, I don't know how you can miss the tactility of that.
Membrane or capacitive BS? Membrane BS is not very tactile at all. Alps clicky switches are, on the other hand, very tactile (avoid Alps tactile). Topre is also a good choice if you want tactility.
If you have strong hands, then you want an Alps clone board, as those tend to be ridiculously stiff and tactile :)
You might want to give a Matias Tactile Pro board a try, too — those switches are tactile, and not too light or too heavy. Nothing beats vintage clicky Alps though for sheer tactility.
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LMAO
This is a joke, right?
With earplugs and blindfold you couldn't tell when a tactile switch has activated?
You should see a doctor.
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I can barely feel the bump for the browns :D but for blue 100%
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Actually, if you want a really nice tactile switch, try SMK second generation (http://deskthority.net/wiki/SMK_second_generation). SMK's own OEM platform is a really solid and attractive keyboard, and SMK pulled off a tactile metal contact microswitch in a way that neither Cherry nor Alps ever succeeded. (It's basically a clicky switch with a chamfered slider that stops the click leaf from reaching the snap point; the click leaf is a different shape, but it does click with a clicky slider fitted.)
Despite the baling wire construction, one thing they did get right: the slider allows the contacts to close under their own power, instead of slamming them closed (as you get with Alps), so mashing the switch cannot put any force on the springs. (Cherry also get this right and always have done, as did Hi-Tek/Stackpole.)
How much difference this really makes, if any, I have no idea, but Alps do switches always get the worst rap for degradation over time … (I wonder if Omron and Mitsumi suffer from the same issue.) It also prevents the contact leaf from adding its own tactile point (if anything, it will push the other way, not fight back).
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Ergo clears feel so nice, you should try those. I can feel exactly when the switch actuates (or at least I think I can )
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If you can't feel it, you're doing it too hard.
Of course, I don't type anywhere near 100 WPM, so that may have something to do with it.
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tldr
yes you get used to the bump