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geekhack Projects => Making Stuff Together! => Topic started by: gargintua on Wed, 07 August 2013, 08:32:51
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thats right, i propose the 65% keyboard once and for all
no numberpad
no function keys
This is the proposed standard
where can i get this?
if not who would like to get this standard out there?
in the future i would like it to be used with gh60 programable keys
with 2 blank keys on either side of the top arrow key
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65% generally refers to a Filco Minila or SteelBeauty layout. Might want a different name for it.
There are no stock boards with this layout but you can probably make your own. Check out Matt30's SteelBeauty for more details. And jdcarpe's direct wiring and prototyping thread. Oh and you might like TheFlyingRaccoon's Longcat board.
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Anywho, it's more of a 70% anyway (~70 keys) but I like the design :)
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I think that would be easier to start this standard idea with specific points:
- The board size
- Hole positions
- The USB position
I would love to have one complete standard but I do have my doubts regarding the layout - this is the first thing that everybody changes ...
The board size affects the case dimensions, it's easy to see that the board size is way important.
The same goes for the screw holes.
The USB connector, IMO, is the hardest point. It's kinda hard to force it into a standard since the usb position depends on the layout of our switches.
This question regarding the correct name of the keyboard is also important, I think that would be better to name the keyboard based on its size (not based on it's number of switches), for instance:
- class size 65% (it does not mean 65 keys, it means that the board uses our 65% size standard)
- class size 60%
- class size 70%
- etc
+1 for the standard idea.
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I would say a 65% was a 60% with a shortened right shift to allow for a dedicated arrow cluster and four keys up the right hand side. Like this http://22gongbang.tistory.com/102 (http://22gongbang.tistory.com/102)
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I think that would be better to name the keyboard based on its size (not based on it's number of switches), for instance:
- class size 65% (it does not mean 65 keys, it means that the board uses our 65% size standard)
- class size 60%
- class size 70%
- etc
i agree in principal, but that would require everyone agreeing on the area defined as 100%. and would the keyboard on a Blackberry be considered a 10% keyboard just because the buttons are so small?
in practice, working with key count is logical and easier to agree on - 100% is between 101 (Winkeyless ANSI) and 105 (Winkeyful ISO) keys - so each key is ~ 1%
60% = 59-63 keys (standard keyboard without tenkey, nav cluster, and function row)
65% = 64-68 keys (usually 60% + one column)
70% = 69-73 keys (usually 60% + 3 partial columns (like OP))
75% = 74-78 keys (usually 60% + function row)
80% = 79-83 keys (usually 60% + function row + one column)
85% = 84-88 keys (usually 60% + function row + 3 partial columns (standard tenkeyless))
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Moving Insert/Delete down will throw off a lot of people who use the editng block by touch. It's like those crappy OEM keyboards which do it to make room for suspend/wake/power where printscreen/scrolllock/pause used to live.
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Although it does look kind of nice, I'm pretty sure I use the function row way more than I use the 6-key island above the arrow keys, so I'm not sure I can see myself purchasing a keyboard with this layout.
Those are nice mock ups though!
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I would say a 65% was a 60% with a shortened right shift to allow for a dedicated arrow cluster and four keys up the right hand side. Like this http://22gongbang.tistory.com/102 (http://22gongbang.tistory.com/102)
I love that board but....you might ask Kaliet before you link his site.
Thanks for your intersets to my new keyboard - 2TU.
Now I know this explains the traffic increase to my blog.
BTW, it would've been better to mail be before posting my photos directly.
Per Kaliet in his thread about the 2TU.