geekhack
geekhack Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 August 2013, 08:53:32
-
What do you guys think about the up and coming popular thing that restaurants are doing.....
Banning kids! :o
http://consumerist.com/2013/08/06/another-restaurant-hops-on-kid-banning-bandwagon/
-
first smoking, now kids
this shall not stand
-
I wish pubs would enforce this rule, when I was a kid I had to wait in the car while my parents went inside and got us drinks... now I go into a pub to be confronted with small children running around...
-
The problem, also, is that there are kids who are not a public nuisance.
In a more perfect world, people who sat in a restaurant would be informed that if their children start to disturb other patrons, that they will be asked to leave -- then its on the parents to wrangle and/or train their children.
I think it's fine for a restaurant to do this (no children under a certain age, beyond a certain time). I wouldn't call that a 'ban' however. It's a restriction. It's also a risky move on part of the business. I remember (back when smoking was actually legal) there were smoking sections. I think it would be a better business move to make child-friendly sections of the restaurant, with sound-muffling properties to keep other patrons happy.
Go, go free market, as always.
-
It's curious, I thought it were something that could happen only here into the third dammed f world.
Sometime ago I saw into the news that a couple entered into a famous car shop to get info about a new model. While they were talking another seller banned a afro american kid that was close to them. Ended up that the kid was the couple's son (adopted).
The couple sued the store.
-
What if they banned/restricted 'old people' because they are slow and take longer, I supposed they may also be loud and disruptive at times?
I think the issue is parents not being responsible, now don't get me wrong I know how kids are and they can be awful even though the parents do everything right etc.
But if your kid's are being that bad then a person should take it upon themselves to leave, been there done that.....and kid's should not just run free either that's just bad parenting.
And yes there are some places kids have no business being either.
One thing I know is if I ever attempted to go eat somewhere and they said well come back when you don't have your kids with you, I personally would never go back!
-
OH YES!
MORE AGE DISCRIMINATION!
I'M SO PUMPED ABOUT JUDGING PEOPLE BASED ON WHEN THEY WERE BORN!
-
Well, it'd probably make it easier to know where to go. I'd imagine those who run a restaurant and genuinely care about the food they make wouldn't want to exclude all kids from the experience simply because some kids can be noisy.
Obviously you'll probably find jerks who care about food, but chances are they're more interested in their food being enjoyed and praised by the right kind of people rather than a desire to share the joy of a good meal with everyone willing to try.
-
As an unmarried kidless adult I love this idea. Money hungry little noise machines, but why stop at restaurants? Why not movie theaters, airplanes, grocery stores, the middle of streets. On second thought, they can stay in the middle of streets.
Honestly, there are some restaurants that actually care that their customers paid them money to enjoy adult time with each other and have a nice meal, and I applaud that. I know some places don't serve people with kids after a certain time of night which I don't find crazy at all, in fact totally reasonable.
-
it's just like the hateful lifeguard in a pool.
ask any summer lifeguard that just sits at a pool, their number 1 complaint is that they are not a babysitter, cuz parents think they can just drag their kids to the pool, laydown with a book and say go play to the kids.
so the lifeguard has to go yelling at kids, making sure they don't... die, while the parent just enjoys a book.
i see the same thing at restaurants, dumb parents who just let their kids do whatever they want, who hasn't been annoyed by kids that think utensils also function as drumsets?
unfortunately, you cannot ban bad or poor parenting, for every kid you want to stuff in a closet, there's a gem of a kid that just sit's, eats quietly and responds when asks.
just like in restaurants and bars, there were guys that blew smoke in your face, and others that tried to blow smoke to the side.
-
It's like saying that we should ban under 16/18 people from GH. You might lose a lot of useless people, but you'd lose more useful people.
-
airplanes,
there another story on that .....kid cried....mom and kid got kicked off plane
-
What if they banned/restricted 'old people' because they are slow and take longer
I would back this move
-
Obviously there are always slight issues such as disabilities etc. but I think noisy ****ers should be kicked out, as someone who worked for a catering company for 6months I can tell you pissed-up middle age'd men are easily as bad/worse than small children.
There was more here but I forget, I'll come back later.
-
Obviously there are always slight issues such as disabilities etc. but I think noisy ****ers should be kicked out, as someone who worked for a catering company for 6months I can tell you pissed-up middle age'd men are easily as bad/worse than small children.
There was more here but I forget, I'll come back later.
^^
More age!=Better behavior
-
Would support this concept for a local restaurant one was around that had decent food.
I am totally happy to pay taxes equal to that of people with parents to help educate the generations of the future (though I think we do a bad job of this, but that is another topic).
I am 30 something, married, childless and won't be having any kids. I would be more than willing to pay a premium if required to have a nice quite evening out with the wife.
-
Sometimes it's not only the noise. You see kids running around restaurants, which is dangerous for everyone in the restaurant. Kids bump and run into things, including waiters that can be holding something that should not be dropped onto another person.
-
Obviously there are always slight issues such as disabilities etc. but I think noisy ****ers should be kicked out, as someone who worked for a catering company for 6months I can tell you pissed-up middle age'd men are easily as bad/worse than small children.
There was more here but I forget, I'll come back later.
^^
More age!=Better behavior
Right, but for every kid like this-
You have tons who are terribly behaved. Now banning everyone under 18 might be excessive, but not letting really small children and infants in nice restaurants makes sense.
-
I would like to also make a movement to ban teenagers from hanging out at my local 7-11. They just loiter on the side of the building yelling 'Sup ***. Do something.' at everyone who walks by. It's been this way for almost 2 years, different teenagers, same ****ty attitude like they pass on this terrible tradition of perpetuating the stereotype that teenagers are respectless arseholes.
-
It is a stupid decision. In the entire range of human ages there is going to be stupid people...
-
Do something.
-
I would like to also make a movement to ban teenagers from hanging out at my local 7-11. They just loiter on the side of the building yelling 'Sup ***. Do something.' at everyone who walks by. It's been this way for almost 2 years, different teenagers, same ****ty attitude like they pass on this terrible tradition of perpetuating the stereotype that teenagers are respectless arseholes.
Just 'accidentally' hit the gas instead of the break.
It is a stupid decision. In the entire range of human ages there is going to be stupid people...
So then let's ban all people from everywhere... :p
We still have the internets :thumb:
-
Many parents shouldn't even have a dog.
If you know your kids will be noisy and raise hell, take them to Chuck E Cheese rather than a romantic restaurant. The same applies to shopping, if you can't control your 6 kids, try to avoid going shopping at peak times and dragging all of them along with you. Stores are already packed enough at that time of day and having your kids tie up an entire isle is ridiculous, not to mention dangerous if you're too busy shopping to keep your eyes on them.
-
I would like to also make a movement to ban teenagers from hanging out at my local 7-11. They just loiter on the side of the building yelling 'Sup ***. Do something.' at everyone who walks by. It's been this way for almost 2 years, different teenagers, same ****ty attitude like they pass on this terrible tradition of perpetuating the stereotype that teenagers are respectless arseholes.
Just 'accidentally' hit the gas instead of the break.
Then wait to get sued because you spelled brake wrong. :D
-
So then let's ban all people from everywhere... :p
We still have the internets :thumb:
No we don't, Ray :(
Many parents shouldn't even have a dog.
If you know your kids will be noisy and raise hell, take them to Chuck E Cheese rather than a romantic restaurant. The same applies to shopping, if you can't control your 6 kids, try to avoid going shopping at peak times and dragging all of them along with you. Stores are already packed enough at that time of day and having your kids tie up an entire isle is ridiculous, not to mention dangerous if you're too busy shopping to keep your eyes on them.
This asks too much of those parents.
-
just throw the kids in the window
-
What do you define as a 'kid'? Is it below a certain age?
-
What do you define as a 'kid'? Is it below a certain age?
Personally I feel like it's anyone under 16, but more reasonably anyone under 9.
-
What do you define as a 'kid'? Is it below a certain age?
It's in the OP. Below a certain age ("over eight years old") and after a certain time (7:00). This "ban" does feel like a slap in the face, but I can understand wanting to cultivate a good late-night reputation as an adult place with the childless twentysomething crowd (I assume that's the goal here). Though I wonder how many kids they actually see after 7:00. If this is an attempt to get brownie points by pandering to the contempt a lot of young adults have for marriage and family, I think that's pretty despicable.
-
id like to ban everybody that is not me to any place that i go
-
id like to ban everybody that is not me to any place that i go
Well said Mr. Swanson
-
The problem is kids ARE insane, because not all of their faculties have developed.
So it's not wrong to judge them for who they are, crazy people.
If libraries can kick out loud kids, then this is really the same thing.
It is only much harder to kick someone out since they paid for the meal.
-
The problem is kids ARE insane, because not all of their faculties have developed.
So it's not wrong to judge them for who they are, crazy people.
If libraries can kick out loud kids, then this is really the same thing.
It is only much harder to kick someone out since they paid for the meal.
Its not so much kicking them out but not letting them in to start with.
-
id like to ban everybody that is not me to any place that i go
Going to be an awfully boring time when you go to any event.
-
id like to ban everybody that is not me to any place that i go
Forever alone...
-
... If this is an attempt to get brownie points by pandering to the contempt a lot of young adults have for marriage and family, I think that's pretty despicable.
I doubt it is about contempt for most persons interested in this sort of environment, anecdote me.
-
I dont mind kids. I cant stand loud whiney kids but that is usually backed up by ****ty parenting. "Shut up and eat your food" "Okay, no food for you" "Look this is for you to eat will you be calm now?"
I had to go to the ER yesterday and had to sit with ****ty mom that treated her kid like a dog(well dogs dont evewn get treated like this). I was in agonizing pain and that **** was making me want to walk out
-
I had to go to the ER yesterday and had to sit with ****ty mom that treated her kid like a dog(well dogs dont evewn get treated like this). I was in agonizing pain and that **** was making me want to walk out
What did you have? Hope you're feeling better :)
-
I had to go to the ER yesterday and had to sit with ****ty mom that treated her kid like a dog(well dogs dont evewn get treated like this). I was in agonizing pain and that **** was making me want to walk out
What did you have? Hope you're feeling better :)
On wednesday i was getting strong pains in my abdomen, thinking it was probably just the nasty baconator i ate the day before and a lack of fiber or something. Yesterday at around noon, on my way to work i was getting extraordinary crippling pains in the same'sh area. Its pain that you CANT ignore. The pain was from the top of my leg down to my left ball (lol). I had to call in to work to go to the ER. The Pain would last for about an hour, then go away for a bit. Then came back. Doctor took a urine sample and there was a small amount of blood. Turned out to be a small kidney stone. He said the pain was likely from it passing from the kidney to the bladder. i was peeing quite frequently, but it was in small short squirts i would describe. I think i passed it in that time. I have been good so far today..but im nervous about peeing :P I got a small script for naproxen (anti inflammatory) and dilaudid 2mg (painkiller). Thanks for the support! :)
-
I had to go to the ER yesterday and had to sit with ****ty mom that treated her kid like a dog(well dogs dont evewn get treated like this). I was in agonizing pain and that **** was making me want to walk out
What did you have? Hope you're feeling better :)
On wednesday i was getting strong pains in my abdomen, thinking it was probably just the nasty baconator i ate the day before and a lack of fiber or something. Yesterday at around noon, on my way to work i was getting extraordinary crippling pains in the same'sh area. Its pain that you CANT ignore. The pain was from the top of my leg down to my left ball (lol). I had to call in to work to go to the ER. The Pain would last for about an hour, then go away for a bit. Then came back. Doctor took a urine sample and there was a small amount of blood. Turned out to be a small kidney stone. He said the pain was likely from it passing from the kidney to the bladder. i was peeing quite frequently, but it was in small short squirts i would describe. I think i passed it in that time. I have been good so far today..but im nervous about peeing :P I got a small script for naproxen (anti inflammatory) and dilaudid 2mg (painkiller). Thanks for the support! :)
holy **** :( kidney stones hurt like hell. glad you're better now!
-
I had to go to the ER yesterday and had to sit with ****ty mom that treated her kid like a dog(well dogs dont evewn get treated like this). I was in agonizing pain and that **** was making me want to walk out
What did you have? Hope you're feeling better :)
On wednesday i was getting strong pains in my abdomen, thinking it was probably just the nasty baconator i ate the day before and a lack of fiber or something. Yesterday at around noon, on my way to work i was getting extraordinary crippling pains in the same'sh area. Its pain that you CANT ignore. The pain was from the top of my leg down to my left ball (lol). I had to call in to work to go to the ER. The Pain would last for about an hour, then go away for a bit. Then came back. Doctor took a urine sample and there was a small amount of blood. Turned out to be a small kidney stone. He said the pain was likely from it passing from the kidney to the bladder. i was peeing quite frequently, but it was in small short squirts i would describe. I think i passed it in that time. I have been good so far today..but im nervous about peeing :P I got a small script for naproxen (anti inflammatory) and dilaudid 2mg (painkiller). Thanks for the support! :)
It's good that it was just a small one.
-
I had to go to the ER yesterday and had to sit with ****ty mom that treated her kid like a dog(well dogs dont evewn get treated like this). I was in agonizing pain and that **** was making me want to walk out
What did you have? Hope you're feeling better :)
On wednesday i was getting strong pains in my abdomen, thinking it was probably just the nasty baconator i ate the day before and a lack of fiber or something. Yesterday at around noon, on my way to work i was getting extraordinary crippling pains in the same'sh area. Its pain that you CANT ignore. The pain was from the top of my leg down to my left ball (lol). I had to call in to work to go to the ER. The Pain would last for about an hour, then go away for a bit. Then came back. Doctor took a urine sample and there was a small amount of blood. Turned out to be a small kidney stone. He said the pain was likely from it passing from the kidney to the bladder. i was peeing quite frequently, but it was in small short squirts i would describe. I think i passed it in that time. I have been good so far today..but im nervous about peeing :P I got a small script for naproxen (anti inflammatory) and dilaudid 2mg (painkiller). Thanks for the support! :)
holy **** :( kidney stones hurt like hell. glad you're better now!
Yeah, thankfully it was small... i couldnt imagine the ones you see on the net would feel like. I wouldnt wish a stone on my worst of enemys xD I describe the pain like getting kicked in the balls... but the worst pain of it lasting for 1-2 hours
-
What do you define as a 'kid'? Is it below a certain age?
It's in the OP. Below a certain age ("over eight years old") and after a certain time (7:00). This "ban" does feel like a slap in the face, but I can understand wanting to cultivate a good late-night reputation as an adult place with the childless twentysomething crowd (I assume that's the goal here). Though I wonder how many kids they actually see after 7:00. If this is an attempt to get brownie points by pandering to the contempt a lot of young adults have for marriage and family, I think that's pretty despicable.
Mickey is right i totally agree. Families with kids eats earlier anyway, therefor 7o'clock sounds good. I'd say, allow kids in until 6:20 and they should all be gone by 7:15 or so. That way, the later-night ambiance will be smoother and calming. That makes it more enjoyable for groups of people, teenagers to adults to oldies, and makes it more romantic for couples also.
Here in Québec, we have a Scores restaurant (Grill restaurant, very good) with a soup&salad bar. They already did ban kids under a certain age (12 y/o i think) after 7:30 since they run everywhere and there has been a lot of case of old people dropping their very hot soup on themselves and kids because these kids couldn't hold in place. Also there's always less waiters at that time, therefore no kids eases them the job and makes the service way better for everyone.
Anyway it doesn't block up decent people, i mean under 8 years old your kid should be in bed by 9 or something anyway. You're not going to bring your kid to eat and drop him to bed as soon as he's done right?
That also depends of the part of the world you live in. I mean some places eat later than other for evening meal (diner or supper or wtv you call it), but anywhere you are your kids should be early in bed.
Oh and one last thing; no one wants to hear others children scream and cry. That's horrible. If i go to a restaurant i want a good time, not a crying concert. I remember at that italian supper with some friends we had a band comming in to play in, and some douches kid rushed into the drum-kit and broke up very expensive instruments. Douchebag refused to pay blaming the band for leaving it unattended and treating to fight the drummer for hurting his damn kid.... With kids stay home or bring a whip lol.
-
Here in Québec, we have a Scores restaurant
Here in the US, we have a Score's, too. They don't let kids in...
-
OH YES!
MORE AGE DISCRIMINATION!
I'M SO PUMPED ABOUT JUDGING PEOPLE BASED ON WHEN THEY WERE BORN!
Heh! Indeed!
My son just turned seven. Had his passport since he was three months old, already visited more countries than I did before I was 30. He always accompanies us to restaurants, orders his own food and drinks, and has never made a scene in public - apart from once when he got some hazelnuts in ice cream without realizing it (allergic reaction).
If a restaurant has issues seating us because of our child, we take our business elsewhere. Plenty of other places willing to take our entertainment dollars.
-
There are plenty of "family-friendly" (i.e. bad) restaurants for irresponsible parents to let their ill-behaved children run riot in. If you want to go to a good restaurant then find someone to watch your kids for a few hours instead of dragging them along and ruining everyone else's evening.
-
I'D SAY THE BEST WAY TO KEEP BAD-BEHAVING LITTLE KIDS OUT OF RESTAURANTS WOULD BE TO TAKE CHICKEN FINGERS AND HOTDOGS OFF OF THE MENU.
-
OH YES!
MORE AGE DISCRIMINATION!
I'M SO PUMPED ABOUT JUDGING PEOPLE BASED ON WHEN THEY WERE BORN!
Heh! Indeed!
My son just turned seven. Had his passport since he was three months old, already visited more countries than I did before I was 30. He always accompanies us to restaurants, orders his own food and drinks, and has never made a scene in public - apart from once when he got some hazelnuts in ice cream without realizing it (allergic reaction).
If a restaurant has issues seating us because of our child, we take our business elsewhere. Plenty of other places willing to take our entertainment dollars.
Your son is a VERY RARE EXCEPTION unfortunately. My sister and I were the same way and our parents had no problem toting us around when they needed to. They also had no problem hiring a baby sitter when they wanted privacy or were going to a nice restaurant. What you just described was the norm for most young children 30+ years ago, but not any more.
Kudos greystroke for being a good parent! You are pretty rare these days too.
-
OH YES!
MORE AGE DISCRIMINATION!
I'M SO PUMPED ABOUT JUDGING PEOPLE BASED ON WHEN THEY WERE BORN!
Heh! Indeed!
My son just turned seven. Had his passport since he was three months old, already visited more countries than I did before I was 30. He always accompanies us to restaurants, orders his own food and drinks, and has never made a scene in public - apart from once when he got some hazelnuts in ice cream without realizing it (allergic reaction).
If a restaurant has issues seating us because of our child, we take our business elsewhere. Plenty of other places willing to take our entertainment dollars.
Your son is a VERY RARE EXCEPTION unfortunately. My sister and I were the same way and our parents had no problem toting us around when they needed to. They also had no problem hiring a baby sitter when they wanted privacy or were going to a nice restaurant. What you just described was the norm for most young children 30+ years ago, but not any more.
Kudos greystroke for being a good parent! You are pretty rare these days too.
Here we go...
-
Kids should also be forbidden to use a vag!na to entry the world. It's damaging to many assets on their way out!
As an unmarried kidless adult I love this idea. Money hungry little noise machines, but why stop at restaurants? Why not movie theaters, airplanes, grocery stores, the middle of streets. On second thought, they can stay in the middle of streets.
-
OH YES!
MORE AGE DISCRIMINATION!
I'M SO PUMPED ABOUT JUDGING PEOPLE BASED ON WHEN THEY WERE BORN!
Heh! Indeed!
My son just turned seven. Had his passport since he was three months old, already visited more countries than I did before I was 30. He always accompanies us to restaurants, orders his own food and drinks, and has never made a scene in public - apart from once when he got some hazelnuts in ice cream without realizing it (allergic reaction).
If a restaurant has issues seating us because of our child, we take our business elsewhere. Plenty of other places willing to take our entertainment dollars.
Your son is a VERY RARE EXCEPTION unfortunately. My sister and I were the same way and our parents had no problem toting us around when they needed to. They also had no problem hiring a baby sitter when they wanted privacy or were going to a nice restaurant. What you just described was the norm for most young children 30+ years ago, but not any more.
Kudos greystroke for being a good parent! You are pretty rare these days too.
Here we go...
hahahah.
-
Kids should also be forbidden to use a vag!na to entry the world. It's damaging to many assets on their way out!
Neither of mine came out that way, but the alternative has its own issues.
-
I never realized how annoying children were until I worked on kids eat free night at Mcalister's Deli. First you have the screaming, crying, and running around children. SO ****ing loud. Next you have the grumpy ass *****y parents who feel the need to take everything out on their server or anybody who is working that night. Yeah I realize you have been waiting on your food for 15 minutes, how about you go help sandwiches with the 30 tickets on the rail? Oh hire more people you say? Yeah maybe we could if we didn't have kids eat free every Monday and if people like you didn't demand free food for anything and everything. Finally you have the children who don't even eat their food, they would rather just dump that **** on the floor or wipe it all over the table. At the end of the night the floor is covered in bread crust, teddy grahams, chips, applesauce, and mac n cheese.
Gotta smile the whole time :)
Welcome to my hell.
-
ER for a small kidney stone?
pfft. i've had 4, popped some advil and went on with my day.
because i can't afford healthcare :(
-
:-) My line was not meant to be taken seriously. It was just an absurd comment in a absurd thread.
"If a restaurant has issues seating us because of our child, we take our business elsewhere."
I drink to that. Even customers without kids should boycott those restaurants.
Kids should also be forbidden to use a vag!na to entry the world. It's damaging to many assets on their way out!
Neither of mine came out that way, but the alternative has its own issues.
-
ER for a small kidney stone?
pfft. i've had 4, popped some advil and went on with my day.
because i can't afford healthcare :(
hahaha other than waiting for 3-4 hours (doing a blood and urine test in that time) for a 20 minute diagnosis all i had to pay was 25$ for my script :P
that sucks massive ****s though man... :( I hope i dont get many more..
-
ah just saw you're in canada.
but yeah kidney stones suck. i've had some that were just an annoying pain to some that left me unable to do anything until the pain stopped. only one required for me to go to a clinic. and all they said is to just drink tons of water and let it pass.
anyway back to the topic.
i hate kids.
-
ah just saw you're in canada.
but yeah kidney stones suck. i've had some that were just an annoying pain to some that left me unable to do anything until the pain stopped. only one required for me to go to a clinic. and all they said is to just drink tons of water and let it pass.
anyway back to the topic.
i hate kids.
Yeahh.. from the kids whineing, mom yelling at him and the pain i was about to yell for a doctor to give me painkillers XD
But yeah, **** kids.
-
Maybe everyone should be sterilized and nobody should have kids anymore since they are so aggravating and annoying.
-
Maybe everyone should be sterilized and nobody should have kids anymore since they are so aggravating and annoying.
this.
i like this.
-
Maybe everyone should be sterilized and nobody should have kids anymore since they are so aggravating and annoying.
this.
i like this.
But then how will we have our babies milky?
-
Maybe everyone should be sterilized and nobody should have kids anymore since they are so aggravating and annoying.
this.
i like this.
But then how will we have our babies milky?
Have you not seen the matrix!
-
Maybe everyone should be sterilized and nobody should have kids anymore since they are so aggravating and annoying.
this.
i like this.
But then how will we have our babies milky?
shhhhhhh you're letting out our world domination plan!!!
-
Unfortunately the problem isn't with the children, it's with the parents. I don't even have kids but I have friends with children on both sides of the problem and lets just say the parenting styles involved are very different.
-
OH YES!
MORE AGE DISCRIMINATION!
I'M SO PUMPED ABOUT JUDGING PEOPLE BASED ON WHEN THEY WERE BORN!
Heh! Indeed!
My son just turned seven. Had his passport since he was three months old, already visited more countries than I did before I was 30. He always accompanies us to restaurants, orders his own food and drinks, and has never made a scene in public - apart from once when he got some hazelnuts in ice cream without realizing it (allergic reaction).
If a restaurant has issues seating us because of our child, we take our business elsewhere. Plenty of other places willing to take our entertainment dollars.
Your son is a VERY RARE EXCEPTION unfortunately. My sister and I were the same way and our parents had no problem toting us around when they needed to. They also had no problem hiring a baby sitter when they wanted privacy or were going to a nice restaurant. What you just described was the norm for most young children 30+ years ago, but not any more.
Kudos greystroke for being a good parent! You are pretty rare these days too.
Here we go...
...someone who thinks that people should be good parents if they have kids. What a douche!
-
Honestly parents can be 'perfect' and their kids can sill be awful and rotten at times.
But the there are too many parents like the last who's 3yr old drowned because she was distracted by social media. I'd post a pic but don't wasn't to stir the racial pot.
-
because i can't afford healthcare :(
'Murica!
-
because i can't afford healthcare :(
'Murica!
Hey at least we got our guns.....for now anyways
-
Exactly ... If anyone look the TV show from Cesar Millan, most famous as the “Dog Whisperer”
There is no bad dogs... Just stupid owners. The cure is always 90% on the people and 10% on the dogs.
I think it's the same with kids. The one raised by a mother+father and the other raised by a game console will not behave the same in a restaurant...
Unfortunately the problem isn't with the children, it's with the parents. I don't even have kids but I have friends with children on both sides of the problem and lets just say the parenting styles involved are very different.
-
Sorry I can't hear you over all my free healthcare!
Jk's, I'd rather have porn:(
-
Sorry I can't hear you over all my free healthcare!
Jk's, I'd rather have porn:(
Just get a wife! :)) :p
-
Sorry I can't hear you over all my free healthcare!
Jk's, I'd rather have porn:(
Come to Australia, free healthcare AND porn! It costs $80 for a beer though.
-
Sorry I can't hear you over all my free healthcare!
Jk's, I'd rather have porn:(
Come to Australia, free healthcare AND porn! It costs $80 for a beer though.
Yeah but how many gallons is in the beer? ;)
-
Sorry I can't hear you over all my free healthcare!
Jk's, I'd rather have porn:(
Come to Australia, free healthcare AND porn! It costs $80 for a beer though.
Yeah but how many gallons is in the beer? ;)
Our standard measure over here is a croc stomach!
-
Sorry I can't hear you over all my free healthcare!
Jk's, I'd rather have porn:(
Come to Australia, free healthcare AND porn! It costs $80 for a beer though.
Yeah but how many gallons is in the beer? ;)
Our standard measure over here is a croc stomach!
I've always wanted to go to Australia but I think it's from watching all the crocodile dundee movies as a kid.....hopefully those were not too offensive to you all.
-
Sorry I can't hear you over all my free healthcare!
Jk's, I'd rather have porn:(
Come to Australia, free healthcare AND porn! It costs $80 for a beer though.
Yeah but how many gallons is in the beer? ;)
Our standard measure over here is a croc stomach!
I've always wanted to go to Australia but I think it's from watching all the crocodile dundee movies as a kid.....hopefully those were not too offensive to you all.
Haha nah Paul Hogan is an Australian legend, no-one would argue that! Grew up on those movies myself :)
-
Our standard measure over here is a croc stomach!
I lol'd at this. :D
-
Haha nah Paul Hogan is an Australian legend, no-one would argue that! Grew up on those movies myself :)
How is Paul doing anyway? Haven't eared or see anything with him in it in ages.
For any Chuck Norris claims - Paul Hogan does it better! End of discussion :-)
-
Don't think he's doing too well these days, he's been in and out of the courts non-stop for the last few years over tax evasion!
-
Unfortunately the problem isn't with the children, it's with the parents. I don't even have kids but I have friends with children on both sides of the problem and lets just say the parenting styles involved are very different.
This. This times a million.
My son just is 10 months old, and I'll be damned if I let him grow up to act like a disrespectful, inconsiderate, and entitled little ****bag.
Too many parents these days have no idea what it means to discipline a child (which is actually good for the kid, believe it or not).
-
I drink to that. Even customers without kids should boycott those restaurants.
Why should I boycott a restaurant because of policies which benefit me and that I agree with?
-
Because they're retarded and idiotic.
-
Why? They're logical and effective. What you actually mean is you just happen to dislike them.
-
Sorry I can't hear you over all my free healthcare!
Jk's, I'd rather have porn:(
Come to Australia, free healthcare AND porn! It costs $80 for a beer though.
Although pr0n is only legal in ACT (Canberra).
Anyone want to guess where the seat of government is?
-
Why? They're logical and effective. What you actually mean is you just happen to dislike them.
You're damn right I dislike them. Doesn't meant they're not retarded and idiotic as well.
-
Can you explain why, from a rational, rather than emotional, standpoint?
-
people who complain about kids acting like kids are *******s, full stop.
please note i have lots of friends who are *******s and i myself am an ******* but not for that reason.
-
I think we should ban sth from restraunts
-
Nothing wrong with kids behaving like kids when they're at home, or in a playground, or at a chain restaurant. But there's a bunch of other places kids don't belong. Like proper restaurants, the opera, strip clubs, etc.
It's interesting that some parents are so inconsiderate and feel so deserving that they can't seem to fathom the fact that a proprietor might care more about the interests of their clientele as a whole than their individual custom. Demand usually far outstrips supply for good restaurants anyway, so it's hardly like they'll miss your business - although I'd imagine a "no-kids" policy would only increase custom anyway.
-
But there's a bunch of other places kids don't belong. Like proper restaurants, the opera, strip clubs, etc.
i disagree. women will flock to you!
-
Sth, it's called "code switching". Different situations and social settings call for different behavior. It's something that all of us do without realizing it usually.
A child screaming and yelling and running around in a playground is acceptable behavior in that setting. A child screaming and yelling and running around in a formal restaurant is not acceptable behavior in our society. And parents are responsible for teaching and preparing their children to live, survive, and thrive in society.
-
Nothing wrong with kids behaving like kids when they're at home, or in a playground, or at a chain restaurant. But there's a bunch of other places kids don't belong. Like proper restaurants, the opera, strip clubs, etc.
It's interesting that some parents are so inconsiderate and feel so deserving that they can't seem to fathom the fact that a proprietor might care more about the interests of their clientele as a whole than their individual custom. Demand usually far outstrips supply for good restaurants anyway, so it's hardly like they'll miss your business - although I'd imagine a "no-kids" policy would only increase custom anyway.
:(
-
I have a lot to say in response, but I can't right now, as I'm too busy propagating the human race. Sorry the future of mankind is so inconvenient and such a problem. Although it's no wonder kids turn out to be such little ****s. You keep telling them they're a problem, eventually they'll believe you.
-
Yeah I could've worded that better, but that attitude just makes me rage, so rather than bang my head against a wall I'm gonna bow the **** out. Enjoy your restaurants.
-
I have a lot to say in response, but I can't right now, as I'm too busy propagating the human race. Sorry the future of mankind is so inconvenient and such a problem. Although it's no wonder kids turn out to be such little ****s. You keep telling them they're a problem, eventually they'll believe you.
Yeah I could've worded that better, but that attitude just makes me rage, so rather than bang my head against a wall I'm gonna bow the **** out. Enjoy your restaurants.
nah you're good
-
I'm sure the world would actually benefit from a few less people, so don't act like you're doing everyone a favour by popping out kids.
-
I have a lot to say in response, but I can't right now, as I'm too busy propagating the human race. Sorry the future of mankind is so inconvenient and such a problem. Although it's no wonder kids turn out to be such little ****s. You keep telling them they're a problem, eventually they'll believe you.
If you keep telling people anything, eventually they will believe you. Remember the little recession that Clinton caused when he went into office? All he said was that the United States as currently in a recession and people stopped spending money, which really did cause a recession.
-
I'm sure the world would actually benefit from a few less people, so don't act like you're doing everyone a favour by popping out kids.
seriously.
i hate children. i dont ever plan on having children (because i dont have a vagina) but if for whatever reason I married (or got with) a person that wanted kids.. it's adoption or nothing.
-
I'm sure the world would actually benefit from a few less people, so don't act like you're doing everyone a favour by popping out kids.
quoted for oh my god this is why i hate the internet, are you seriously trying to be that big of a jackass?
-
I have a lot to say in response, but I can't right now, as I'm too busy propagating the human race. Sorry the future of mankind is so inconvenient and such a problem. Although it's no wonder kids turn out to be such little ****s. You keep telling them they're a problem, eventually they'll believe you.
^^
If you label small children, they'll internalize it for life.
-
I'm sure the world would actually benefit from a few less people, so don't act like you're doing everyone a favour by popping out kids.
Tellier like it is!
-
wtf are people saying here?
Looking for a place with cheap alcool, free porn and free healthcare?
Quebec!
We also have Poutine, French speakers, Celine Dion, and incredible strains of good ol' grass. Plus we don't have guns, and we're reknown for very good ****s.
You're always welcome as long as you are not a total douchebag.
-
The problem is here, we have parents, and we have non-parents. You both believe each other is the devil. It's never going to work. I understand that restricting a place to somewhere where you can't go is obviously a negative from the parents point of view, but having little tyrants running around (although not ever child is a tyrant) is clearly a negative for the non-parents there are here.
Please just agree to disagree?
Oh and Demik, we can just get a Pizza at home :-*
-
Please just agree to disagree?
Like that ever happens on the internet. ::)
-
wtf are people saying here?
Looking for a place with cheap alcool, free porn and free healthcare?
Quebec!
We also have Poutine, French speakers, Celine Dion, and incredible strains of good ol' grass. Plus we don't have guns, and we're reknown for very good ****s.
You're always welcome as long as you are
muslim.
-
wtf are people saying here?
Looking for a place with cheap alcool, free porn and free healthcare?
Quebec!
We also have Poutine, French speakers, Celine Dion, and incredible strains of good ol' grass. Plus we don't have guns, and we're reknown for very good ****s.
You're always welcome as long as you are
muslim.
wat.jpwat?
-
Please just agree to disagree?
You can't ask people to agree to disagree while offering an opinion that is different than theirs. That is only incentive to argue more. The only real way is to stop talking. This is why you don't find me in threads like these. Too many differing opinions and no purpose in arguing when I won't change yours and you won't change my own.
-
Please just agree to disagree?
You can't ask people to agree to disagree while offering an opinion that is different than theirs. That is only incentive to argue more. The only real way is to stop talking. This is why you don't find me in threads like these. Too many differing opinions and no purpose in arguing when I won't change yours and you won't change my own.
[attachimg=1]
http://xkcd.com/386/ (http://xkcd.com/386/)
I think the problems is best illustrated from xkcd. :thumb:
-
The problem is, I'm too awesome. We should all just eat takeout at home, problem solved.
-
so much drama, I see it like this
a business has the right to refuse service
if society disagrees with how they implement this, they go out of business
if society agrees with it, they stay in business and make money
no amount of internet armchair heroics will change the nature of business
-
so much drama, I see it like this
a business has the right to refuse service
if society disagrees with how they implement this, they go out of business
if society agrees with it, they stay in business and make money
no amount of internet armchair heroics will change the nature of business
Except if by internet armchair heroics you mean Ultimate Gods.
-
Please just agree to disagree?
You can't ask people to agree to disagree while offering an opinion that is different than theirs. That is only incentive to argue more. The only real way is to stop talking. This is why you don't find me in threads like these. Too many differing opinions and no purpose in arguing when I won't change yours and you won't change my own.
Though, offering your own opinions and incites can help give others a more rounded view of the world. Forums are often dominated by people with the strongest opinions, so someone with a less extreme view can actually add a lot, even if it dsnt seem like it.
-
http://research.nd.edu/news/36692-modern-parenting-may-hinder-brain-development-research-shows/
Modern parenting may hinder brain development, research shows
^^ this explains a lot :P
-
I'm sure the world would actually benefit from a few less people, so don't act like you're doing everyone a favour by popping out kids.
quoted for oh my god this is why i hate the internet, are you seriously trying to be that big of a jackass?
Tongue was firmly in cheek for the record, although what I said was technically correct. Pulling the "oh excuse me for being such an inconvenience populating the Earth for you" argument just because your preteen children aren't allowed into a restaurant is lame as hell.
so much drama, I see it like this
a business has the right to refuse service
if society disagrees with how they implement this, they go out of business
if society agrees with it, they stay in business and make money
no amount of internet armchair heroics will change the nature of business
Precisely.
-
I'm wondering; what will happen if you don't follow this rule?
I mean let's say limit is 7:00, i get into the restaurant 6:50 with my kid, order food, and 10 minutes later they ask me to leave with the kid? Or will they let us eat properly?
Or what if i drive a schoolbus with 50 kids and drop the load into the restaurant at 7:20? Now if i run away, will the police arrest little kids? That'll sure piss of the manager (lol) cause the kids ain't going to listen to anyone.
Plus they are gonna break **** up and get away with it since they are ****ing 8 years old brats.
-
What if I use a giant cannon to fire children into the restaurant after 7PM!?
What if I lower children into the restaurant from a hot air balloon!?
What if a pregnant woman enters the restaurant after 7PM but then gives birth mid-meal!?
-
What if a pregnant woman enters the restaurant after 7PM but then gives birth mid-meal!?
^^ Seems legit.
-
What if a pregnant woman enters the restaurant after 7PM but then gives birth mid-meal!?
^^ Seems legit.
Defenetly made me lol.
But still my questions require answers.
-
if society disagrees with how they implement this, they go out of business
if society agrees with it, they stay in business and make money
no amount of internet armchair heroics will change the nature of business
hahahahahaha. Business Expert.
I'm sure the world would actually benefit from a few less people, so don't act like you're doing everyone a favour by popping out kids.
quoted for oh my god this is why i hate the internet, are you seriously trying to be that big of a jackass?
Tongue was firmly in cheek for the record, although what I said was technically correct. Pulling the "oh excuse me for being such an inconvenience populating the Earth for you" argument just because your preteen children aren't allowed into a restaurant is lame as hell.
your cheeks are in a bad place then. that was totally uncalled for.
-
What if I use a giant cannon to fire children into the restaurant after 7PM!?
I love how Spam only questions the last one, I'm more worried about this!
-
What if I use a giant cannon to fire children into the restaurant after 7PM!?
You better pack them tight, their bones haven't developed proper density yet :-X
What if I lower children into the restaurant from a hot air balloon!?
Be sure to tie weights to their feet to ensure they drop 'straight down' see bone density (aka bird fever) info above :rolleyes:
What if a pregnant woman enters the restaurant after 7PM but then gives birth mid-meal!?
It means she ordered the fish :p
-
The problem is here, we have parents, and we have non-parents. You both believe each other is the devil. It's never going to work. I understand that restricting a place to somewhere where you can't go is obviously a negative from the parents point of view, but having little tyrants running around (although not ever child is a tyrant) is clearly a negative for the non-parents there are here.
Please just agree to disagree?
Oh and Demik, we can just get a Pizza at home :-*
what about pizza?
*demik
-
Tongue was firmly in cheek for the record, although what I said was technically correct. Pulling the "oh excuse me for being such an inconvenience populating the Earth for you" argument just because your preteen children aren't allowed into a restaurant is lame as hell.
your cheeks are in a bad place then. that was totally uncalled for.
Time to grow a pair, son.
-
Tongue was firmly in cheek for the record, although what I said was technically correct. Pulling the "oh excuse me for being such an inconvenience populating the Earth for you" argument just because your preteen children aren't allowed into a restaurant is lame as hell.
your cheeks are in a bad place then. that was totally uncalled for.
Time to grow a pair, son.
i've got the biggest balls of them all
-
The problem is here, we have parents, and we have non-parents. You both believe each other is the devil. It's never going to work. I understand that restricting a place to somewhere where you can't go is obviously a negative from the parents point of view, but having little tyrants running around (although not ever child is a tyrant) is clearly a negative for the non-parents there are here.
Please just agree to disagree?
Oh and Demik, we can just get a Pizza at home :-*
what about pizza?
*demik
You, Me, Pizza, Eating, Why little d?
(You have a little d? huehuehue)
-
The problem is here, we have parents, and we have non-parents. You both believe each other is the devil. It's never going to work. I understand that restricting a place to somewhere where you can't go is obviously a negative from the parents point of view, but having little tyrants running around (although not ever child is a tyrant) is clearly a negative for the non-parents there are here.
Please just agree to disagree?
Oh and Demik, we can just get a Pizza at home :-*
what about pizza?
*demik
You, Me, Pizza, Eating, Why little d?
(You have a little d? huehuehue)
burn!