im not sure. From the looks of it it looks aluminum coated somehow. Ive never seen anything like this so im kinda struggling to make sense of it. I just know it looks cool
I love those subtle fonts they use. Thats alone is gonna sucker me into getting one.
Not TKL, not interested.
Is so sexy. I don't get why you don't like it because it's not TKL. I personally only own TKL or smaller, and I might buy this simply because of how sexy it is.
This is a business keyboard, not a gaming one.
Not TKL, not interested.
TKL is overrated.
i was all up on that hype for the longest time..
Now i've seen the light.
Not TKL, not interested.
TKL is overrated.
i was all up on that hype for the longest time..
Now i've seen the light.
But it's not an ergodox...
Not TKL, not interested.
TKL is overrated.
i was all up on that hype for the longest time..
Now i've seen the light.
But it's not an ergodox...
I am slowly realizing that my ergodox crusade is coming to an end.
People need to make mistakes as I did, before they can fully appreciate just how amazing the ergodox is relative to the cookie cutter iterations they pump out each refresh cycle.
:D
And within those cookie cutter iterations, There are some cookies that are crunchier and tastier than the other. I will still attempt to help people find the best board possible, EVEN in a sea of boards that are NOT remotely as GREAT as the ERGODOX.
Not TKL, not interested.
TKL is overrated.
i was all up on that hype for the longest time..
Now i've seen the light.
Not TKL, not interested. Honestly, when these companies make gaming keyboards what makes them think any game uses numpad input? It's just a waste of valuable mouse space and forearm room for more serious gamers.Did you never fly a heli in GTA4? :))
Not TKL, not interested.
TKL is overrated.
i was all up on that hype for the longest time..
Now i've seen the light.
Edox doesn't have a separate numpad, therefore tkl.
Not TKL, not interested.
TKL is overrated.
i was all up on that hype for the longest time..
Now i've seen the light.
Edox doesn't have a separate numpad, therefore tkl.
It doesn't need a separate numpad, you can toggle
Why don't you just come out and say that you work for Feenix instead of this? I mean, it's not like people would look down on it. There are many different vendors that have a presence here and announce their products.
That being said, I do like the (what looks to be) pad-printed black on black. That's a very nice look. And if they're dyesubbed (which I doubt, but if they are), then tell them to make more caps, and sell them individually as well.
Not TKL, not interested.
TKL is overrated.
i was all up on that hype for the longest time..
Now i've seen the light.
Edox doesn't have a separate numpad, therefore tkl.
It doesn't need a separate numpad, you can toggle
Yeah, and the non-staggered layout makes it that much more perfect as a numpad.
Why don't you just come out and say that you work for Feenix instead of this? I mean, it's not like people would look down on it. There are many different vendors that have a presence here and announce their products.
That being said, I do like the (what looks to be) pad-printed black on black. That's a very nice look. And if they're dyesubbed (which I doubt, but if they are), then tell them to make more caps, and sell them individually as well.
^this^
We'd love to have Feenix on here.
Why don't you just come out and say that you work for Feenix instead of this? I mean, it's not like people would look down on it. There are many different vendors that have a presence here and announce their products.
That being said, I do like the (what looks to be) pad-printed black on black. That's a very nice look. And if they're dyesubbed (which I doubt, but if they are), then tell them to make more caps, and sell them individually as well.
^this^
We'd love to have Feenix on here.
If I'd work for anyone, it'd more likely be massdrop, LOL
But no I don't work for any keyboard company.
Why don't you just come out and say that you work for Feenix instead of this? I mean, it's not like people would look down on it. There are many different vendors that have a presence here and announce their products.
That being said, I do like the (what looks to be) pad-printed black on black. That's a very nice look. And if they're dyesubbed (which I doubt, but if they are), then tell them to make more caps, and sell them individually as well.
^this^
We'd love to have Feenix on here.
Why don't you just come out and say that you work for Feenix instead of this? I mean, it's not like people would look down on it. There are many different vendors that have a presence here and announce their products.
That being said, I do like the (what looks to be) pad-printed black on black. That's a very nice look. And if they're dyesubbed (which I doubt, but if they are), then tell them to make more caps, and sell them individually as well.
^this^
We'd love to have Feenix on here.
Unfortunately I am but a mere fanboy and consumer who got an email from them :(
For me, it was that you only signed up five minutes before this "exciting new announcement".
It's a really nice looking keyboard. :)
Haha well truth be told that is why I signed up. Was trying to be a big shot with new news
Not TKL, not interested.
TKL is overrated.
i was all up on that hype for the longest time..
Now i've seen the light.
But it's not an ergodox...
I am slowly realizing that my ergodox crusade is coming to an end.
People need to make mistakes as I did, before they can fully appreciate just how amazing the ergodox is relative to the cookie cutter iterations they pump out each refresh cycle.
:D
And within those cookie cutter iterations, There are some cookies that are crunchier and tastier than the other. I will still attempt to help people find the best board possible, EVEN in a sea of boards that are NOT remotely as GREAT as the ERGODOX.
I signed up so that I could use the search function.
Not TKL, not interested.
TKL is overrated.
i was all up on that hype for the longest time..
Now i've seen the light.
Edox doesn't have a separate numpad, therefore tkl.
It doesn't need a separate numpad, you can toggle
Feenix is all hype (not to say their products aren't good, just not as revolutionary as their advertising and marketing materials suggest).
Yeah, looks like it'll be really pricey. I do love the font, but it's not worth the (probably quite high) price if it's just going to be a rebranded OEM of questionable quality.
Feenix is all hype (not to say their products aren't good, just not as revolutionary as their advertising and marketing materials suggest).
QFT.
It'll be a $200 Costar with MX Reds.
Yeah, looks like it'll be really pricey. I do love the font, but it's not worth the (probably quite high) price if it's just going to be a rebranded OEM of questionable quality.Feenix is all hype (not to say their products aren't good, just not as revolutionary as their advertising and marketing materials suggest).
QFT.
It'll be a $200 Costar with MX Reds.
Hmm that would be interesting if it is an OEM. The email they sent out made it pretty clear they designed it, and also the case doesnt look like anything on the market but who knows... Rootworm i think your wrong about the reds since in the pictures its very clearly brown switches. unless im very color blind
Yeah, looks like it'll be really pricey. I do love the font, but it's not worth the (probably quite high) price if it's just going to be a rebranded OEM of questionable quality.Feenix is all hype (not to say their products aren't good, just not as revolutionary as their advertising and marketing materials suggest).
QFT.
It'll be a $200 Costar with MX Reds.
Hmm that would be interesting if it is an OEM. The email they sent out made it pretty clear they designed it, and also the case doesnt look like anything on the market but who knows... Rootworm i think your wrong about the reds since in the pictures its very clearly brown switches. unless im very color blind
Yeah, looks like it'll be really pricey. I do love the font, but it's not worth the (probably quite high) price if it's just going to be a rebranded OEM of questionable quality.Feenix is all hype (not to say their products aren't good, just not as revolutionary as their advertising and marketing materials suggest).
QFT.
It'll be a $200 Costar with MX Reds.
Hmm that would be interesting if it is an OEM. The email they sent out made it pretty clear they designed it, and also the case doesnt look like anything on the market but who knows... Rootworm i think your wrong about the reds since in the pictures its very clearly brown switches. unless im very color blind
A) You're almost certainly looking at a pre-production mockup. Not a production part.
B) What, you think Costar can't customize a chassis? They do it all the time. It's part of being an ODM - you do custom work.
C) HOW many companies OEMing iOne/Costar/Dearmo/etc. claim they 'designed it' again? Ah, right - 100%.
your last two points make sense and we will have to wait and see I guess. But your first point about the mockup makes no sense. These are clearly final photos on the site and it's showing brown switches on the inside
But it's not an ergodox...You should buy a Topre Realforce keyboard instead. They are great! :rolleyes:
Not TKL, not interested. Honestly, when these companies make gaming keyboards what makes them think any game uses numpad input? It's just a waste of valuable mouse space and forearm room for more serious gamers.
im not sure. From the looks of it it looks aluminum coated somehow. Ive never seen anything like this so im kinda struggling to make sense of it. I just know it looks cool
I agree the design is quite tastefully done. :D
They also claimed some untrue things with the Nascita.Yeah, looks like it'll be really pricey. I do love the font, but it's not worth the (probably quite high) price if it's just going to be a rebranded OEM of questionable quality.Feenix is all hype (not to say their products aren't good, just not as revolutionary as their advertising and marketing materials suggest).
QFT.
It'll be a $200 Costar with MX Reds.
Hmm that would be interesting if it is an OEM. The email they sent out made it pretty clear they designed it, and also the case doesnt look like anything on the market but who knows...
Not TKL, not interested.
TKL is overrated.
i was all up on that hype for the longest time..
Now i've seen the light.
What % would TKL be considered?
Is there a difference between 75% and 80%?
Is there a difference between 75% and 80%?
Not TKL, not interested. Honestly, when these companies make gaming keyboards what makes them think any game uses numpad input? It's just a waste of valuable mouse space and forearm room for more serious gamers.
Technically TKL has 87 keys and (most) full size have 104, and (87 / 104) * 100 = 83.653846153846153846153846153846 which is usually rounded to 85% (although it would be slightly more accurate to say 84%, but most people prefer multiples of 5).
Then what the heck is 75%?A TKL without the "wasted space".
I always thought it was like the Race or MX-MiniTechnically TKL has 87 keys and (most) full size have 104, and (87 / 104) * 100 = 83.653846153846153846153846153846 which is usually rounded to 85% (although it would be slightly more accurate to say 84%, but most people prefer multiples of 5).
Then what the heck is 75%?
Technically TKL has 87 keys and (most) full size have 104, and (87 / 104) * 100 = 83.653846153846153846153846153846 which is usually rounded to 85% (although it would be slightly more accurate to say 84%, but most people prefer multiples of 5).
Then what the heck is 75%?
Technically TKL has 87 keys and (most) full size have 104, and (87 / 104) * 100 = 83.653846153846153846153846153846 which is usually rounded to 85% (although it would be slightly more accurate to say 84%, but most people prefer multiples of 5).
Then what the heck is 75%?
Ah, well, technically a 75% would have approximately 3/4 the keycaps of a 104 key keyboard. That would be 78 keys. So if you removed 26 keys from a 104 keyboard, you would end up with a 75% board.
Perhaps you could just remove the A-Z keys - that would be a quick and easy way of making a 75% board.
Is so sexy. I don't get why you don't like it because it's not TKL. I personally only own TKL or smaller, and I might buy this simply because of how sexy it is.
This is a business keyboard, not a gaming one.
The gold plated switches adds +10 gaming performance.I never really like products that say best for gaming. Oh hurrr durrrr. Other mechanical keyboards can't play games. It's marketing but it's so stupid.
http://www.feenixcollection.com/autore.html
Looks like we have a price.
"Backorder - $163"
http://www.feenixcollection.com/autore.html (http://www.feenixcollection.com/autore.html)
Looks like we have a price.
"Backorder - $163"
Sweet looking keyboard, though TKL would have been better
Anyone can remind me the title of the song ? it's pretty famous, yet, can't recall what it is :mad:
Don't you just hate when you can't remember songs
http://www.feenixcollection.com/autore.html
In stock.
http://www.feenixcollection.com/autore.html
In stock.
Click add to cart...
Hey there,
I'm inquiring about your new keyboard which is shown on the Feenix website. Aside from it looking like a fantastic keyboard, I would like to know what materials are used in its construction. From the pictures provided it seems like the keyboard has a metal-like finish to it. Does the case just have a special metallic finish or is it actually made out of metal?
Thanks
Chad James <chadjames@feenixcollection.com>
10:40 AM (4 hours ago)
to me
Hello,
The keyboard has an aluminum coating finish to the keycaps which gives it a metallic finish however the keyboard itself is not made out of aluminum.
Thanks,
Chad
I just received my autore. I'm working on a review of it. Gonna make a quick video review to go along with that. Without mentioning too much I will say this, this is the best build quality of any keyboard I've used. And it weighs enough to crush a full grown bear.
I just received my autore. I'm working on a review of it. Gonna make a quick video review to go along with that. Without mentioning too much I will say this, this is the best build quality of any keyboard I've used. And it weighs enough to crush a full grown bear.
I just received my autore. I'm working on a review of it. Gonna make a quick video review to go along with that. Without mentioning too much I will say this, this is the best build quality of any keyboard I've used. And it weighs enough to crush a full grown bear.
To be specific the site states it is 1200 g or about 2.64 lbs. This is slightly less than than the Ducky 3s and WASD keyboards. and certainly less than the aluminum body Ducky YOTS or the any Model M. Nice looking keyboard to me but if the case were actually some sort of metal it would be a selling point. It's colored plastic with MX browns so other than silver plastic and very nicely colored keys (probably ABS) . I am not sure what delineates its quality other than metal plate mounting which many other keyboards have.
I just received my autore. I'm working on a review of it. Gonna make a quick video review to go along with that. Without mentioning too much I will say this, this is the best build quality of any keyboard I've used. And it weighs enough to crush a full grown bear.
Without mentioning too much I will say this, this is the best build quality of any keyboard I've used. And it weighs enough to crush a full grown bear.
I'd like to get a set of these caps. Are they available?
Is so sexy. I don't get why you don't like it because it's not TKL. I personally only own TKL or smaller, and I might buy this simply because of how sexy it is.
This is a business keyboard, not a gaming one.
Uhh aluminum is amazing.
If you think that's (plastic with aluminum coating)the greatest quality...you're in for a treat.
This company seems to be based in using marketing to create an illusion of "luxury" to justify their unnecessarily inflated prices, all while cranking out average quality products. I've yet to see anything of theirs in person that was a) impressive or b) worth the high price tags.
This company seems to be based in using marketing to create an illusion of "luxury" to justify their unnecessarily inflated prices, all while cranking out average quality products. I've yet to see anything of theirs in person that was a) impressive or b) worth the high price tags.
pretty much this
they're basically using smoke and mirrors to sell chinese OEM goods.
I can guarantee you they have no FABs for production. So whatever they say about in-house design and manufacture is complete BS.
pretty much this
they're basically using smoke and mirrors to sell chinese OEM goods.
I can guarantee you they have no FABs for production. So whatever they say about in-house design and manufacture is complete BS.
their mouse was basically a dressed up sharkroo dark glyder. I'm a bit suspect of that frankly. They insist they create everything in LA in house.pretty much this
they're basically using smoke and mirrors to sell chinese OEM goods.
I can guarantee you they have no FABs for production. So whatever they say about in-house design and manufacture is complete BS.
Just because they don't have a fab doesn't mean they can't contact chinese OEMs to improve a product.
I know there are kickstarters that find a crappy chinese product, work with them to improve it, and then resell it for 2x the price of the OG chinese one.
For example: http://drop-kicker.com/2013/10/vybe-abuses-crowd-funding-to-become-middle-men-and-charge-backers-twice-what-theyd-pay-elsewhere/ (be sure to click the "CREATOR RESPONSE" to get the whole story)
So yeah, in-house manufacture is very unlikely, however in-house design may just be a bit of a play on words.
I think this was the case with their mouse as well, they used the same shell as a chinese OEM mouse, but had custom internals.
China is a very interesting place :thumb:
This company seems to be based in using marketing to create an illusion of "luxury" to justify their unnecessarily inflated prices, all while cranking out average quality products. I've yet to see anything of theirs in person that was a) impressive or b) worth the high price tags.
pretty much this
they're basically using smoke and mirrors to sell chinese OEM goods.
I can guarantee you they have no FABs for production. So whatever they say about in-house design and manufacture is complete BS.
I mean, it uses an ALU case, can you name another keyboard that has that standard?
This company seems to be based in using marketing to create an illusion of "luxury" to justify their unnecessarily inflated prices, all while cranking out average quality products. I've yet to see anything of theirs in person that was a) impressive or b) worth the high price tags.
pretty much this
they're basically using smoke and mirrors to sell chinese OEM goods.
I can guarantee you they have no FABs for production. So whatever they say about in-house design and manufacture is complete BS.
I mean, it uses an ALU case, can you name another keyboard that has that standard?
There's a good write up here
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/feenix-autore-promises-quality,news-18135.html
This company seems to be based in using marketing to create an illusion of "luxury" to justify their unnecessarily inflated prices, all while cranking out average quality products. I've yet to see anything of theirs in person that was a) impressive or b) worth the high price tags.
pretty much this
they're basically using smoke and mirrors to sell chinese OEM goods.
I can guarantee you they have no FABs for production. So whatever they say about in-house design and manufacture is complete BS.
I mean, it uses an ALU case, can you name another keyboard that has that standard?There's a good write up here
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/feenix-autore-promises-quality,news-18135.html
"The switches contain gold to ensure fast and reliable response''? The steel plate? Spacing between keys is comfortable? They are describing any of a whole lot of keyboards using Cherry switches. The only unique features here are the case shape, the case coating, and the gold plate. Still, the article concludes that the price tag is too high because there are no gamer options (...), no flashy gamer LEDs, and not enough tilt! It just read like a fluff article to me, not a serious review :(
Just put up my write up of the autore: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53818.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53818.0)
I also found out it was basically plastic casing also. What other keyboard build qualities are you comparing it too? Aluminum paint does not sound impressive.
This company seems to be based in using marketing to create an illusion of "luxury" to justify their unnecessarily inflated prices, all while cranking out average quality products. I've yet to see anything of theirs in person that was a) impressive or b) worth the high price tags.
pretty much this
they're basically using smoke and mirrors to sell chinese OEM goods.
I can guarantee you they have no FABs for production. So whatever they say about in-house design and manufacture is complete BS.
I mean, it uses an ALU case, can you name another keyboard that has that standard?
This company seems to be based in using marketing to create an illusion of "luxury" to justify their unnecessarily inflated prices, all while cranking out average quality products. I've yet to see anything of theirs in person that was a) impressive or b) worth the high price tags.
pretty much this
they're basically using smoke and mirrors to sell chinese OEM goods.
I can guarantee you they have no FABs for production. So whatever they say about in-house design and manufacture is complete BS.
I mean, it uses an ALU case, can you name another keyboard that has that standard?
It is not just the keyboard. They also have that Feenix Nascita, which is incredibly expensive, and they act like it is the best mouse in the world, while it has a crappy Avago ADNS 9500 sensor with acceleration. But plenty of companies do that, so that is not even that big of a deal. However they claim that:
Extensively researched and unique Feenix form factor offers perfect ergonomic feel for the Nascita regardless of whether you are a palm, claw, or semi-claw gamer.
This is their NascitaShow Image(http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1319984/width/350/height/700/flags/LL)
Oh yes, unique design and what not. Awesome $100 ...well spent right. Well... there are several other brands that use the same sensor and have the exact shell. Seems to be nothing more than a hyped OEM mouse.
Here is the Sharkoon Darkglider (cheap B-brand mouse)Show Image(http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1319983/width/350/height/700/flags/LL)
And that is not the only mouse that uses the same OEM shell.
The other thing that kind of annoys me is their text
As a small independently owned company based in California, Feenix enjoys absolute creative freedom to design, engineer, assemble and test what professional gamers consider to be the finest gaming mice in the world. While a meticulous assembly process limits the production volume to less than 500 mice a month, owners of Feenix mice can be ensured a gaming instrument of utmost excellence. By focusing a unified passion for gaming solely into the making of mice, Feenix is able to maintain high-quality standards, and avoid traditional corporate inattention. With build quality as a top priority, a Feenix mouse is unparalleled in reliability due to precisely built mechanical movements and hand finished quality checks. Along with impeccable feel, everything regarding a Feenix mouse, from the state-of-the-art chipsets and lens systems to the elegant aesthetics and features, must meet the approval of professional gamers before being labeled with an authentic reference seal.
You can not just claim professional gamers consider your mice the finest in the world, when no one has ever seen a professional gamer use the brand and you do not mention which professional gamers you are talking about (probably some LoL player somewhere... maybe). The idea of professional gamers using the mice is odd anyway. Laser mice are not really common in the pro scene. In fact, they are pretty much non-existent among FPS players.
I mean , it has an ok sensor , looks comfortable enough and I am willing to believe it is built well, but do not feed us that crap about how you manually produce only 500 a month and professional gamers consider it the best, and that flawed Avago sensor that serious gamers avoid is something special. That sort of dumb BS just annoys me. Especially when 10 dollar WMO with a STMicroelectronics OS MLT 04 sensor craps all over your mouse when it comes to performance (and IS actually used by pro gamers).
We are used to gaming companies feeding us BS, but "Feenix" seems to be taking it to a whole new level.
/Rant
''Laser mice are not really common in the pro scene. In fact, they are pretty much non-existent among FPS players. ''
please stop, plenty of counter-strike players uses the likes of SS Sensei, xai, etc. pro gear is entirely based on who's their sponsor and what they have to offer. any FPS player worth anything can use absolutely any mouse out there and still be a god. the idea that 3% negative or positive acceleration would have any real world impact on their game is absurd. then there's the fact how prediction is completely about preference.
either way, Feenix have released an official statement somewhere regarding the mouse issue and anyone interested can just google it. not that I care either way, just funny how this forum knows so much about keyboards and then suddenly start drooling when it comes to mice.
its been widely covered that the feenix shell was what was copied by other manufacturers. Seeing as how their new model of their mouse now boasts a different look and sensor. also I dont think a manufacturer that is getting editors at wired to use their keyboards isnt doing ODM's.
My name is Garrett, im one of the developers here at Feenix. We do sometimes get inquiries regarding the differences between these two mice, and I would be happy to explain the situation to you fully. When we first developed the first version of the Nascita we designed it in partnership with our old supplier due to lack of manpower (engineers, 3d designers, etc...) here at our company (this was when we first started up). Regardless we had a vision of what our first fully ergonomic mouse should be, and we were able to meet that vision nearly to the fullest. However one of the caveats of being a startup company is that finances are often limited, so to be able to develop the Nascita we had to agree to an AGENT (region restricted) ODM contract. This means that our original supplier was allowed to provide the tooling of the shell to European distributors since they were the ones that created the moulds and tooling for us. These European distributors however have no obligations as to what components, switches, quality checks, etc... to use. And bear in mind we underwent development of the Nascita 2 years ago, a year before these distributors began utilizing the shell for their own mice. However at the current time we are happy to say that we are now fully ODM with ALL of our products. Every Feenix product from our Dimora, to our upcoming Vitesse (optical mouse designed purely for pro gamers), Autore (mechanical keyboard), are developed in California all in house, and we develop the tooling and have full control and ownership of all intellectual property. We understand at the moment that since the Nascitas shell is still very similar to a product like the Darkglider that there is often times confusion regarding the products. Because of this we are actually working hard to push out our completely revamped Nascita that will have a completely different looking body, utilize revolutionary switch assembly, etc... Please understand we take great pride in developing our products in conjunction with pro gamers, and maintaing a high level of quality and customer support is of utmost importance to use. If you have any other questions feel free to shoot them my way.
Thanks,
Garrett