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Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 11 November 2008, 07:47:36: So imav, how come you dont have any geekhack t-shirts available on cafepress?
I think you should give a free t-shirt to the upcoming 300th member ;D
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 11 November 2008, 07:54:52: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=736

Stalled.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 11 November 2008, 08:01:07: Quote from: lowpoly;10734
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=736

Stalled.

so what happened with that? Why did it stall?

Imav, wouldnt it be best to put it on cafepress? Some advantages:
--you wont have to shepherd each idea yourself, just have to 'approve' it at the geekhack store on cafepress. Less work for you.
--users can design their own and put them up (and other users can buy those if they especially like them). (some of the user-submitted designs on the thread above are pretty cool, actually!)
--users can choose what color t-shirt they want (wont be limited to black).
--users would also have more choice in price and type of t-shirt/sweatshirt etc. For instance the cheapest tee on cafepress is actually only $12.
--users can put the logos on anything they want, not just t-shirts. Cups, mugs, etc. Whatever they want to buy. Even stickers.

I for one thought of writing out "geekhack.org" in various languages other than english (like sanskrit for instance). You know, kinda subtle ;) -- a url looks pretty funky written out in sanskrit. ;)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: kyamei on Tue, 11 November 2008, 08:22:20: I'd definitely buy a shirt if one ever gets made.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 11 November 2008, 09:00:04: Quote from: kyamei;10737
I'd definitely buy a shirt if one ever gets made.

I would too -- This forum is obscure enough to be cool on a t-shirt ;)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Wed, 12 November 2008, 22:07:23: You know, I had an idea... one keycap from each of some of Geekhack's favorite keyboards, to make up the logo. (A vector version of this would be ideal for obvious reasons, and someone could probably make that in Illustrator or something, given pics of the keys (not me, I suck at that sort of thing)...)

So, 1391401 is obvious...

What else? I'm thinking... Filco Majestouch, HHKB Pro, Topre Realforce 86U, Model M spacesaver (give it a K or O, so that it's obvious that it's a spacesaver we're talking about...)

Anything else? (Actually, I think this is gonna be worthy of its own thread...)
Title: Your favorite keyboard... period.
Post by: bhtooefr on Wed, 12 November 2008, 22:12:08: I came up with this idea in the latest T-shirt thread...

(If that idea were to be implemented, 12 different models would be needed, this forum is big enough to come up with 12 different good models. So, for that thread, I'll submit the 12 most popular models. I will consolidate models that have keycaps that are identical, though.)

I'll start out with... IBM 1391401.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bigpook on Wed, 12 November 2008, 22:48:40: There can only be one? : )
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bigpook on Wed, 12 November 2008, 22:51:03: One keycap?
Then I would suggest the Das III. I think the fonts are really nice on those keycaps.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: Qwertyuiop on Thu, 13 November 2008, 02:10:29: IBM Model M, probably a black/gray labeled 1391401 if I had to pick a specific one.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: iMav on Thu, 13 November 2008, 02:41:23: The Filco has nice lettering IMHO.

I actually did setup a cafepress store...but I need to design the appropriate logo. I did a high res version of the site's logo, minus the ".org" (so, "GEEKHACK"). But I like the idea is using keys from various keyboards.

Any one here with graphic design chops that would be willing to step up and help design a new logo that is t-shirt worthy?

I say we run with the idea of keys from multiple keyboards. Probably the easiest way is for folks to upload high res picks of all the needed letters from a keyboard so we have options. I'd say get a good portion of the surrounding keys and then they can be cropped. (so, 'g', 'e', 'k', 'h', 'a', 'c')
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: xsphat on Thu, 13 November 2008, 02:47:16: Topre Realforce 86. It's the only one I use, the font looks nice and the keyboard rocks. Check my review for pics.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: iMav on Thu, 13 November 2008, 03:02:32: HHKB will have to be represented...which should be from someone's white, labeled or the black, labeled Lite (which has white lettering on black keys).

A Filco 'boarrd should be there as they are great and have a decent-looking font as well.

Of course a Model M (I like the idea of using a key from the 84-key spacesaver that is obviously from that 'board.

Perhaps a black on gray key from an Endurapro (give Unicomp some love...maybe use the 'G' or 'H' so that the trackpoint can be seen).

Maybe a key from the SMK-88 or even the new Apple keyboard (simply because it is unique-looking). I'd like to see Apple get some love in some form (maybe a key from an Apple Extended?)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: xsphat on Thu, 13 November 2008, 04:32:31: This is a good idea, but won't most of these keys in similar colors be nearly indistinguishable from each other? Just a thought.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 13 November 2008, 04:37:50: sounds good to me. Tho I think a whole variety of user-submitted ideas should be eventually available ;)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 13 November 2008, 04:39:23: how about one key from one of the steampunk models? just for variety

one from one of the aluminum or steel boards?
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: iMav on Thu, 13 November 2008, 05:51:05: Quote from: wellington1869;10928
sounds good to me. Tho I think a whole variety of user-submitted ideas should be eventually available ;)

No argument from me.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: iMav on Thu, 13 November 2008, 05:57:36: Quote from: xsphat;10927
This is a good idea, but won't most of these keys in similar colors be nearly indistinguishable from each other? Just a thought.

I 'G' from a black-on-grey Endurapro will be easily identifiable. The keyboards designed for Apple have a unique font. If you used a key from the new Apple keyboard (chiclet keyboard), that would be very different. As mentioned before, a key from a Model M mini (one with the numpad markings on it) would be identifiable by keyboard geeks.

So, I have to say I disagree. As long as we make good choices, I think we can make each key very unique from each other.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Thu, 13 November 2008, 06:04:05: And the Filcos have a notably different font, right?

So, we need to decide whether it's gonna be Geekhack or Geekhack.org.

A slogan on the back (something like "Life is too short to type on crappy keyboards" would be nice, too. (And, we'll need to pick a font for that... I think our oldest favorite would be the 1391401, so at that time, the graphics adapters of choice would've been MDA and CGA... and the MDA font is more aesthetically pleasing, so...

Here's the MDA font, in an image:

(http://dwarffortresswiki.net/images/e/ee/MDA9x14.png)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 13 November 2008, 06:16:31: Quote
So, we need to decide whether it's gonna be Geekhack or Geekhack.org.

I guess I would vote for "geekhack.org". tho i could live with either.

Quote
a slogan like "Life is too short to type on crappy keyboards"

I guess I'd vote for something more subtle, or no slogan. I personally like t-shirts that are a little bit mysterious. then you get to answer questions when the pretty girls ask you, "what the hell is that?".
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: lowpoly on Thu, 13 November 2008, 06:23:53: Quote
slogan

What about

"Wanna switch?"

on the back. :D
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: iMav on Thu, 13 November 2008, 06:56:58: I merged this thread with the recent t-shirt thread in "off topic"...hopefully that doesn't confuse anyone. :)

I initially thought just having "geekhack", but it makes sense to have "geekhack.org" so that it may drive some new members to the site.

We could certainly do one with no slogan as well as offer a few with different slogans on the back. I like the suggestions so far, keep them coming. We can vote on them later if you'd like.

Ultimately, I'd love to have a picture thread of members wearing their geekhack t-shirts around the world (with distinguishable landmarks in the background). That just seems cool to me.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 13 November 2008, 06:58:57: Quote from: lowpoly;10950
What about

"Wanna switch?"

on the back. :D

hey,thats not bad!

!!!
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 13 November 2008, 07:01:15: Quote from: iMav;10955

Ultimately, I'd love to have a picture thread of members wearing their geekhack t-shirts around the world (with distinguishable landmarks in the background). That just seems cool to me.

I'd contribute to that
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: megarat on Thu, 13 November 2008, 13:23:31: Quote from: wellington1869;10958
I'd contribute to that

Likewise!
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: xsphat on Thu, 13 November 2008, 13:24:24: "Keyboard swinger"
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: xsphat on Thu, 13 November 2008, 13:42:27: Quote from: webwit;10984
I don't wear t-shirts with stuff on it myself, but if you must, look at this HHKB notebook (http://myhome.cururu.jp/quitada/blog/article/81000790001) idea (I think it came with a HHKB pro HG) - I especially like the back with label and feet.

That's pretty cool. I think I'm gonna ask my wife to do something like that for me.

She already made me this one:
Front

(http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/76433/Abby%20art/Keyboard%20notebook/Front%20-%20Keyboard%20notebook.jpg)

Back

(http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/76433/Abby%20art/Keyboard%20notebook/Back%20-%20Keyboard%20notebook.jpg)

I love her.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 13 November 2008, 14:08:07: Quote from: webwit;10990
I love your wife too :) Damn, most women will glaze at you for your keyboard fetish like you just crawled to the light from beneath a wet stone or something. That's very sweet. Be careful now, or I'll have to cross the ocean and court your woman away from you.

seriously.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Thu, 13 November 2008, 15:59:38: Hey, I almost dated a woman who was a bit of a keyboard snob, although horribly misguided - she hated ThinkPad keyboards, and, worse, this was her favorite keyboard:

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff354/bhtooefr/dellusbkeyboard_new.jpg)

(I got her to type on a Model M twice, and she didn't mind it, though, so there was hope... and, why I say she was a bit of a keyboard snob... she was able to actually state why she disliked the ThinkPad keyboard (and all laptop keyboards) - the reduced stroke of all laptop keyboards, the reduced key pitch of the machine she was using (4:3 X-series models have a shrunken keyboard - IIRC, 96% of full-size,) and she likes the full 101/104 layout with numpad.)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bigpook on Thu, 13 November 2008, 16:23:29: I see so many of those Dell keyboards everyday. They truly are everywhere.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: lowpoly on Thu, 13 November 2008, 16:27:10: That Dell has some good points that I'd like to see in other boards. For ex. the lower edge of the first (space bar) row is rounded which is more comfortable for keys that you hit with the side of your thumb. Also, the case is quite small. Of course its a rubber dome but someone tried to make a good board under bad preconditions.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Thu, 13 November 2008, 16:29:34: Yeah, I think I helped put 100 of the damned things in a storage closet at my new job in the last couple days... :eek:
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bigpook on Thu, 13 November 2008, 16:40:41: I can see where lowpoly has a point. I would go a step further and remove the numpad, a dell mini it would be, and pick your choice of switch. On the other hand, these boards have a fair amount of flex to them, but that could be fixed with a metal plate and thicker plastic.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: xsphat on Thu, 13 November 2008, 16:44:58: Quote from: webwit;10990
I love your wife too :) Damn, most women will glaze at you for your keyboard fetish like you just crawled to the light from beneath a wet stone or something. That's very sweet. Be careful now, or I'll have to cross the ocean and court your woman away from you.

lol. She's a fine artist, so she understands completely the importance of using the best of the best for art.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: D-EJ915 on Thu, 13 November 2008, 16:56:44: those dell ones have the same mechanism as the HHKB Lite does and the non-ouchy space bar is quite nice
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Thu, 13 November 2008, 19:01:56: Quote from: D-EJ915
those dell ones have the same mechanism as the HHKB Lite does

Not exactly saying much here - they also have the same mechanism as every $2 bargain bin keyboard. ;)

(And, even, the same mechanism as some "Model M"s... although I refuse to call a rubber dome board a Model M, hence the quotes.)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: D-EJ915 on Thu, 13 November 2008, 22:34:28: Quote from: bhtooefr;11004
Not exactly saying much here - they also have the same mechanism as every $2 bargain bin keyboard. ;)

(And, even, the same mechanism as some "Model M"s... although I refuse to call a rubber dome board a Model M, hence the quotes.)

(http://www.metalguitarist.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.gif) true
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: Chloe on Fri, 14 November 2008, 11:09:03: I have a Dell SK-8135. I only used it for a week and started to feel numbness in my fingers and pains in my hands. :(

Nice design though. I liked the curved keys on the bottom row and the keyboard felt well made, sturdier than the Cherrys I own. The spacebar was noisy compared to the rest of the board, I found this really irritating.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: secularzarathustra on Fri, 14 November 2008, 11:51:10: one thing bad about differently shaped keys is that you cannot physically change the layout on the comp....
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: Chloe on Fri, 14 November 2008, 20:22:56: I had a couple of ideas for tshirt designs and thought I'd share them:
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Fri, 14 November 2008, 20:35:20: Hrm, interesting ideas, although they're rather specific to certain keyswitches (and in the latter case, certain keyboard models.)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Fri, 14 November 2008, 20:56:00: Also, not a Geekhack shirt, but...

http://www.zazzle.com/ibm_model_m_4118611_shirt-235372482606583470
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 15 November 2008, 00:27:32: the ibm t-shirt is kinda cool
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bigpook on Sat, 15 November 2008, 08:16:28: ditto, on the ibm t-shirt.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 15 November 2008, 09:04:58: Quote from: bigpook;11172
ditto, on the ibm t-shirt.

webwit, where is that ibm t-shirt from? I'm actually tempted to buy one if its not exorbitantly priced.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: itlnstln on Sat, 15 November 2008, 10:24:51: I like both Chloe's and webwit's ideas. Hell, I'd even wear one of the ladies tanks with the Cherry switch on it. :) I think we might need a series of shirts to capture all the keyboard love on this site.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 15 November 2008, 10:41:20: Quote
I think we might need a series of shirts

absolutely
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: xsphat on Sat, 15 November 2008, 13:36:18: "Smack your switch"

"Bury the shaft"

"I bottom, do you"

Inspired by the above pic.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Sat, 15 November 2008, 14:12:02: xsphat: I already drive a Mazda Miata, the last thing I need is to wear the last one, and make more people think I swing that way. (Hint: I don't. :p)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: lowpoly on Sat, 15 November 2008, 14:19:53: Putting company logos and copyrighted pics up for sale, even if it's cafepress, might result in some nasty letters (I like the IBM shirt too).
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Sat, 15 November 2008, 14:21:54: lowpoly: This is true, although usually the nasty letters go to Cafepress, and Cafepress deletes the item.

However, in the case of the Model M shirt, it's part of the patent drawing, which is public domain once the patent is expired, IIRC. (And, it expired 11 or so years ago, IIRC.)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: xsphat on Sat, 15 November 2008, 14:36:28: Quote from: bhtooefr;11201
xsphat: I already drive a Mazda Miata, the last thing I need is to wear the last one, and make more people think I swing that way. (Hint: I don't. :p)

lol :D

Quote from: webwit;11202
The problem with the Topre t-shirt is that no female carbon based life form in the known universe will wear it. Well, xsphat's wife perhaps. When she feels kinky. And it's spring. And xsphat managed to get her drunk. And Venus is aligned with Mars in the night sky. But besides that, no one really.

If I bought it for she'd wear it. Maybe only to clean the house, but she'd wear it.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 15 November 2008, 15:40:51: Quote from: webwit;11189
@wellington

Just a quick and clumsy mashup in photoshop to get the idea across. Here's another (sexist) one:

I'd buy that topre t-shirt too! :) Sweet.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 15 November 2008, 15:41:50: Quote from: lowpoly;11204
Putting company logos and copyrighted pics up for sale, even if it's cafepress, might result in some nasty letters (I like the IBM shirt too).

Damn, reality check.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Sat, 15 November 2008, 16:30:09: I'm working on something, using patent drawings...

Drawings from the following patents are currently used:

4,118,611 - Buckling spring torsional snap actuator, invented by Richard Hunter Harris, assigned to International Business Machines Corporation, filed 1977-08-30
4,584,444 - Keyboard switch, invented by Takao Nagashima, assigned to Topre Corporation, filed 1984-09-21

I'm trying to find the patents for the Cherry MX and Alps switches...

Edit: Is patent 4,186,290 an Alps? It looks like one, and it belongs to Alps Electric, and was designed for computer terminal use, but I'm not 100% sure that it's actually what I'm looking for. Take a look at the diagrams here (http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=US004186290&SectionNum=2&IDKey=6AFB50297694&HomeUrl=http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2%2526Sect2=HITOFF%2526u=%25252Fnetahtml%25252FPTO%25252Fsearch-adv.htm%2526r=195%2526f=G%2526l=50%2526d=PTXT%2526s1=((alps.ASNM.%252BAND%252Bkey)%252BAND%252Bswitch)%2526p=4%2526OS=an/alps%252Band%252Bkey%252Band%252Bswitch%2526RS=((AN/alps%252BAND%252Bkey)%252BAND%252Bswitch)). (They're in TIFF format, though, so you'll need a TIFF plugin such as AlternaTIFF to view them.)

I'm gonna use figure 7 (on sheet 5, which is page 6) if it is, because that one matches the style of the other drawings I've got.

Edit 2: Or 4,249,055 is also mentioned for that application...

Edit 3: Looks like 4,467,160 is the Cherry MX (and I also found the ML.) Annoyingly, that patent doesn't have any drawings in the same style...
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Sat, 15 November 2008, 17:17:34: Here's what I've come up with, although that Cherry switch needs to be changed.

(http://bhtooefr.ath.cx/images/geekhackshirt.png)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 15 November 2008, 17:30:22: Quote from: bhtooefr;11252
Here's what I've come up with, although that Cherry switch needs to be changed.

nice. I'd want the pics to be small to medium though (not excessively large). Its nice that they look like real technical diagrams.

Also for actual phrasing of the slogan I must say I'm partial to lowpoly's "Wanna switch?" :)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Sat, 15 November 2008, 17:39:16: They look like real technical diagrams, because they are real technical diagrams, straight from the US patents. ;)

Actually, I wouldn't mind to see the German patent for the Cherry MX, to see if there's anything better for me to use than that exploded diagram... the real issue is that the printing on that one will wear away faster than the other diagrams.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: iMav on Sat, 15 November 2008, 17:43:38: Here's kinda what I had in mind (see attached):
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Sat, 15 November 2008, 17:44:34: That's along the lines of what I originally had in mind, too, but I started working with the other ideas. ;)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: iMav on Sat, 15 November 2008, 17:52:44: Ok, bhtooefr is officially in charge of designing the first t-shirt. ;)

I REALLY like what you're doing with it.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: Chloe on Sat, 15 November 2008, 18:48:34: Quote from: itlnstln;11183
I like both Chloe's and webwit's ideas. Hell, I'd even wear one of the ladies tanks with the Cherry switch on it. :)

Thanks itlnstln. :)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Sat, 15 November 2008, 19:09:02: Still haven't found a suitable drawing of the MX - if/when I do find one, all of them will get resized.

(http://bhtooefr.ath.cx/images/geekhackshirt2.png)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bigpook on Sat, 15 November 2008, 19:38:13: I am liking it, nice job!

there is no room for a rubber dome? /ducks/
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Sat, 15 November 2008, 19:43:01: Note that there's barely enough room for that Cherry. :p

Besides, rubber domes are what just about everyone uses, most people on here that would buy that shirt (or post here, for that matter) do it because they use something different. ;)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bigpook on Sat, 15 November 2008, 20:15:25: yeah, thats true....
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Sat, 15 November 2008, 22:45:41: You know, I just noticed my sig. :D

(I think it'll get edited once these t-shirts are released...)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 15 November 2008, 23:49:05: bhtooefr: sweet! nice job

imav: I like the keys design too. How about on the same t-shirt putting the keys in front and the technical drawings with 'wanna switch' on the back?
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 15 November 2008, 23:50:18: you know honestly, I also still really want to buy those ibm and topre shirts, illegal or not! Seriously. I'm totally serious. Those are very neat designs.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Sun, 16 November 2008, 17:22:43: Well, I'm going with what I've got... so final versions:

Light shirt:
(http://bhtooefr.ath.cx/images/geekhackshirtfinal.png)

Dark shirt:
(http://bhtooefr.ath.cx/images/geekhackshirtfinaldark.png)

I'm gonna send the full resolution (and transparent - I left backgrounds in to show what it'd really look like, on those two) copies to iMav...
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bigpook on Sun, 16 November 2008, 17:27:36: Nice. I like the cherry switch that Chloe suggested better though. But that may not be doable.?
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Sun, 16 November 2008, 17:30:54: Quote from: bigpook;11348
Nice. I like the cherry switch that Chloe suggested better though. But that may not be doable.?

Resolution is way too low on that image (she got it from the Cherry site,) and the legality could be questionable.

There's a reason I only used patent drawings. ;)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: iMav on Sun, 16 November 2008, 18:08:59: I think the design looks great. If anyone is up to creating other designs, feel free. Choice is a good thing!

(that being said, I'm very happy with what we have now and very much appreciate the effort)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bigpook on Sun, 16 November 2008, 18:25:59: no offense, it looks fine as is.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: iMav on Sun, 16 November 2008, 22:01:27: Well, I uploaded the images to cafepress and created an initial store here (http://www.cafepress.com/geekhack).
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 17 November 2008, 00:41:12: Quote from: iMav;11373
Well, I uploaded the images to cafepress and created an initial store here (http://www.cafepress.com/geekhack).

Its nice and I especially like it on a black tee :)
One observation, the second keyswitch (from the left) shows up only very lightly. Not as pronounced as the others. Not that I think that really matters.

I'd second webwit's suggestion for an additional simpler version with smaller fonts and possibly without the drawings. A simple version might be just the right thing for folks like webwit and others who prefer non-loud t-shirts (loudness is relative of course, but I know a lot of people are sensitive about what they're wearing).

For the not-as-loud version, why not put the keycaps image (of "geekhack.org') (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=11256&postcount=64) in front (not too big), and under it "wanna switch?" in small font? (both should be relatively small, since the idea is for a subtler tee)

that way the two main designs we've talked about in this thread would be available... and choice would be a great thing :)

[if the keycap image above isnt showing up well on different colored tees, then maybe just model M keycaps for all the letters. Those should show up well on any background color, and are 'classics'].
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 17 November 2008, 00:52:31: p.s., a third variation on this same design could be the current tee (i.e., with the drawings at current size) but with much smaller fonts on both "geekhack.org" and "wanna switch?").
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: iMav on Mon, 17 November 2008, 01:05:22: I need to take some time and read up on the image requirements for cafepress. (for some reason, they don't like my keycap image)

Maybe bhtooefr can help. :)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 17 November 2008, 01:16:36: From a distance, the keyswitch diagrams look like chinese characters. :) Kinda funky.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 17 November 2008, 01:18:41: iMav, now that you're going to have all kinds of merchandise, surely some creative contests for said merchandise is the next step ;)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: iMav on Mon, 17 November 2008, 01:25:53: Quote from: wellington1869;11392
iMav, now that you're going to have all kinds of merchandise, surely some creative contests for said merchandise is the next step ;)

Interesting you should mention that.

Early on, I had envisioned a HHKB Pro giveaway contest that would be essay-based. Something cheesy like, "how would a HHKB complete me?" But it turned out that, at the time, so many members already HAD HHKB's that it would've been a waste (and I couldn't think of another keyboard that would be as universally coveted by the membership).

As many know here, I regularly give keyboards away to members. (no real rhyme or reason to it...just when I feel like it) I could certainly see randomly rewarding good posts/reviews/etc with free geekhack merchandise. (bhtooefr certainly should get a free t-shirt) ;)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Mon, 17 November 2008, 05:16:45: The reason the second image shows up so faintly is because the lines are much thinner.

Image requirements for CafePress t-shirts... optimal is 2000x2000, 200 DPI, PNG. Anything else will give subpar results. Using transparency is good, too, and is required on dark shirts. (IIRC, on light shirts, white is treated as transparent.)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 17 November 2008, 05:57:16: Quote from: bhtooefr;11267
Still haven't found a suitable drawing of the MX - if/when I do find one, all of them will get resized.

Show Image
(http://bhtooefr.ath.cx/images/geekhackshirt2.png)

Looks like I found my new desktop wallpaper...
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Mon, 17 November 2008, 06:17:31: What resolution is your screen? I can do some cropping and scaling, if you want to go that route.

Also, what sort of background and foreground colors do you want?

(I've got the 2000x2000 original in front of me. ;))
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 17 November 2008, 07:23:03: My screen resolution is 1280 x 1024 (x2) and my base color is RGB 26,26,26. I think a 900 x 900 version with white text and a 26,26,26 base color would be sweet. Thanks!!!
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 17 November 2008, 07:28:30: See the new desktop (with existing image)...
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Mon, 17 November 2008, 07:55:32: Is that 0d26 or 0x26? ;)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 17 November 2008, 08:12:55: Not sure. I just pulled those numbers from the Display Properties screen in Windows (XP x64). It should be a really dark grey (almost black). I appologize; my graphic arts skillz suck.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Mon, 17 November 2008, 08:23:08: Well, both 26,26,26 decimal and #262626 (HTML hexadecimal notation) are a really dark, almost black grey. But, the first one is a slightly darker grey - #1a1a1a, in HTML notation.

And, checking the properties box, it's in decimal, so...

http://bhtooefr.ath.cx/images/itlnstlnbackground.png
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 17 November 2008, 08:46:45: Perfect!!! Thanks!!!
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 17 November 2008, 08:51:34: Check it:
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Mon, 17 November 2008, 16:25:21: So I just found out that I used the wrong Alps switch. I used the Alps leaf spring switch, not the Bigfoot switch that is liked on this forum.

So, I'll be editing everything, and making new versions, and sending them to iMav. ;)

Also, because of the change, the Alps Bigfoot is actually the newest switch, meaning the Topre gets moved to the left.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 17 November 2008, 16:31:49: I didn't realize you had them in date order. Do you have the dates available to post (or did I miss them in another post)?
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Mon, 17 November 2008, 16:39:58: http://bhtooefr.ath.cx/images/itlnstlnbgnew.png <-- new version of the background

Updated shirt images are going to iMav... I'll get a link for the dates, and the Alps Bigfoot patent was filed July 11, 1985.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: bhtooefr on Mon, 17 November 2008, 16:43:20: And here's the dates: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=957
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 17 November 2008, 16:49:42: Awesome. I already updated my background.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: iMav on Mon, 17 November 2008, 20:13:55: Quote from: bhtooefr;11547
Updated shirt images are going to iMav...

Cafepress store updated.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 18 November 2008, 05:35:34: Quote from: iMav;11576
Cafepress store updated.

Imav how about your "geekhack.org" image?
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: CaptCarrot on Fri, 21 November 2008, 19:11:53: this is my idea, would kind of get what we are about and be obscure.

Sorry its in txt, but I couldn't think of another way

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with probably geekhack.org printed on the back of the shirt
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Post by: bigpook on Fri, 21 November 2008, 19:14:12: Thats clever! : )
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Post by: iMav on Fri, 21 November 2008, 19:19:13: That is pretty slick.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Fri, 21 November 2008, 19:47:11: I love it. I'm waiting for a design that is slightly obscure.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: CaptCarrot on Sat, 22 November 2008, 12:52:53: i'm glad you like.

Having looked back through this thread I think it could be coupled with this:

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=225&d=1226715710)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 22 November 2008, 12:56:32: Quote from: CaptCarrot;12112
i'm glad you like.

Having looked back through this thread I think it could be coupled with this:

how about a top-down view, like the keyb outline megarat used here (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=11582&postcount=1) with everything but the geekhack letters blanked out.
Small size though, what I liked about it was that it was non-obvious and non-loud... ;)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: Chloe on Sat, 22 November 2008, 14:14:29: You really need a vector version so it doesn't degrade on resize:

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=261&stc=1&d=1227384947)
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Post by: bhtooefr on Sat, 22 November 2008, 14:17:49: Or a version properly sized for 2000x2000.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 22 November 2008, 14:18:11: Quote from: Chloe;12120
You really need a vector version so it doesn't degrade on resize:

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(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=261&stc=1&d=1227384947)

love it :) On a black t-shirt as the background, if its a smallish size (definitely "between the nipples"), I think it would be pretty cool :)

Should ".org" also be represented?
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 22 November 2008, 14:22:54: I still like imav's idea (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=11256&postcount=64) too, which is possibly another not-so-loud tee shirt.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: Chloe on Sat, 22 November 2008, 14:23:26: Quote from: wellington1869;12125
Should ".org" also be represented?

I'm not sure. Here it is anyway:

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=262&d=1227385401)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 22 November 2008, 14:28:10: Quote from: Chloe;12127
I'm not sure. Here it is anyway:

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(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=262&d=1227385401)

send it in, I'll buy it :)

maybe the final design can have "geekhack.org" in white/gray letters (like in post #110) along the bottom? (I'd buy it either way tho).
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: lowpoly on Sat, 22 November 2008, 14:36:33: The cafepress store should be linked in the header.

Also, good line art, Chloe. :)
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: CaptCarrot on Sat, 22 November 2008, 15:14:30: Quote from: Chloe;12127
I'm not sure. Here it is anyway:

Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=262&d=1227385401)

I like it. And I am glad you guys liked my idea.
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: secularzarathustra on Sat, 22 November 2008, 17:05:23: an optional one in dvorak would be nice!
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: CaptCarrot on Sat, 22 November 2008, 19:43:46: Quote from: secularzarathustra;12140
an optional one in dvorak would be nice!

if you mean like this
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I'm not sure that wouldn't be TOO obscure.

how many no keyboard peeps are gonna glaze over when you go past "its a forum about keyboards etc..." when try to explain a layout they don't recognise.

Sticking with QWERTY, or AZERTY is more likely to succeed, I think.

AZERTY
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Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: secularzarathustra on Sat, 22 November 2008, 19:59:04: That's so nice though!
Title: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: DesktopJinx on Thu, 27 November 2008, 23:12:36: If we're putting keycaps on a T-shirt, I humbly submit the Erase-Eaze half-spacebar from the IBM Select-Ease M15.

(No, I don't submit the actual key. I'm using it.)
Title: Re: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: slytown on Thu, 30 August 2012, 10:54:23: Just ordered one iMav. Thanks.
Title: Re: geekhack t-shirts
Post by: absyrd on Thu, 30 August 2012, 11:02:12: Quote from: slytown on Thu, 30 August 2012, 10:54:23
Just ordered one iMav. Thanks.

I am so confused. :confused: