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Title: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 18 August 2013, 03:01:32
= Giant Sandwich + SODA pop (non-caff)

 :cool:

Ate one, passed the ffff out. Woke up .... FEEELING THE POWA...... :thumb:


yea yea
yea
yea


YEAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 18 August 2013, 03:05:05
= Giant Sandwich + SODA pop (non-caff)

 :cool:

Ate one, passed the ffff out. Woke up .... FEEELING THE POWA...... :thumb:


yea yea
yea
yea


YEAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But shouldn't you still be sleeping?
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 18 August 2013, 03:11:14
= Giant Sandwich + SODA pop (non-caff)

 :cool:

Ate one, passed the ffff out. Woke up .... FEEELING THE POWA...... :thumb:


yea yea
yea
yea


YEAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But shouldn't you still be sleeping?

No, I sleep early like at 9 usually, and sometimes wake up to check on my puter
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 18 August 2013, 03:24:10
I find furiously masturbating with steel wool to bbw conjoined twin midget crushing pron, then eating a can of cat food, huffing some model glue, and lightly choking myself works very well when unable to sleep.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 18 August 2013, 03:25:13
I find furiously masturbating with steel wool to bbw conjoined twin midget crushing pron, then eating a can of cat food, huffing some model glue, and lightly choking myself works very well when unable to sleep.
(http://i.imgur.com/7zOHvig.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: badcop on Sun, 18 August 2013, 06:10:44

I find furiously masturbating with steel wool to bbw conjoined twin midget crushing pron, then eating a can of cat food, huffing some model glue, and lightly choking myself works very well when unable to sleep.

(http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/images/1312421497129.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: llovro on Sun, 18 August 2013, 06:28:24
a big fat bong hit will definetly put you asleep
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: TheQsanity on Sun, 18 August 2013, 06:57:40
Sleeping pills.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: divito on Sun, 18 August 2013, 07:28:53
Melatonin.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: bueller on Sun, 18 August 2013, 07:44:30
I learnt a trick off my mum that never fails me. Get comfortable in bed and then concentrate on tightening a small group of muscles somewhere on your body for a couple of seconds and then release. Do this over and over alternating muscle groups and you should drift off within a few minutes. Really helps if you keep your breathing in time with the muscle movements too.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 18 August 2013, 12:24:00
I learnt a trick off my mum that never fails me. Get comfortable in bed and then concentrate on tightening a small group of muscles somewhere on your body for a couple of seconds and then release. Do this over and over alternating muscle groups and you should drift off within a few minutes. Really helps if you keep your breathing in time with the muscle movements too.

would this work in the summer, you'd breakout sweating no?
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: keymaster on Sun, 18 August 2013, 12:28:31
I've found that melatonin (http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/tc/melatonin-overview) works very well in promoting the onset of sleepiness. Melatonin is a natural occurring hormone found in the body and is also available in pill form over the counter. I began using it about 2 months ago and I've been getting the best sleep since junior high (12+ years).
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: thegunner100 on Sun, 18 August 2013, 12:29:48
Sleepytime Extra.

http://www.amazon.com/Celestial-Seasonings-Sleepytime-Extra-Count/dp/B00CRAU3LM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376846969&sr=8-1&keywords=sleepytime+extra
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: AKIMbO on Sun, 18 August 2013, 12:31:18
Just take two benadryl...diphenhydramine is the active ingredient in benadryl and is also the active ingredient in over the counter sleeping pills (which happen to be 10x the price of benadryl).

Edit: Just read "natural".  Nvm the diphenhydramine thing then.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 18 August 2013, 12:39:32
Just take two benadryl...diphenhydramine is the active ingredient in benadryl and is also the active ingredient in over the counter sleeping pills (which happen to be 10x the price of benadryl).

Edit: Just read "natural".  Nvm the diphenhydramine thing then.

but this thread is about "all natural" :D
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 18 August 2013, 12:44:02
Lazy Cakes

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J_bgk2RoQUQ/TX2LvJPREZI/AAAAAAAAAMo/Z3DVetnB_q0/s1600/Lazy_cakes__.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: AKIMbO on Sun, 18 August 2013, 12:48:08
Oh yeah....try Marley's mellow mood tea. 
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: Tym on Sun, 18 August 2013, 13:10:16
I find getting absolutely  smashed helps, just drink anything and everything then the next thing you know its sometime the next day and your remember nothing.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 18 August 2013, 13:15:17
I find getting absolutely  smashed helps, just drink anything and everything then the next thing you know its sometime the next day and your remember nothing.

Including how your window was broken and poo got everywhere. Haha ;)
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: le_doosh on Sun, 18 August 2013, 13:27:55
Lazy Cakes

Show Image
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You know they are just loaded with melotonin?
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sun, 18 August 2013, 13:31:26
I sleep like a stone, also when having coffee or Redbull before bedtime...
Even had to get one of this Sonicbomb 113db alarm clocks because I started ignoring normal ones (really pissed my GF) :D
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 18 August 2013, 13:36:15
Lazy Cakes

Show Image
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J_bgk2RoQUQ/TX2LvJPREZI/AAAAAAAAAMo/Z3DVetnB_q0/s1600/Lazy_cakes__.jpg)


You know they are just loaded with melotonin?

Of course :)
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 18 August 2013, 17:59:18
I sleep like a stone, also when having coffee or Redbull before bedtime...
Even had to get one of this Sonicbomb 113db alarm clocks because I started ignoring normal ones (really pissed my GF) :D

dude.... get that checked out... 
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 18 August 2013, 18:14:27
They used to sell this stuff called Drank at gas stations that made Mellow Tea and Lazy Cakes look like energy drinks. Man, even half a can of Drank would knock out a bull elephant, it had a metric ****ton of melatonin and valerian root in it.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 18 August 2013, 19:01:41
They used to sell this stuff called Drank at gas stations that made Mellow Tea and Lazy Cakes look like energy drinks. Man, even half a can of Drank would knock out a bull elephant, it had a metric ****ton of melatonin and valerian root in it.

wouldn't all that melotonin be very bad for you?
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: The_Ed on Sun, 18 August 2013, 19:12:01
You can't get much more natural than a bat to the backside of the head. That'll put you right out like a baby in warm pool of soothing blood.

Wait, does "sleep aid" NOT mean "murder" in this context?
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 18 August 2013, 19:13:45
You can't get much more natural than a bat to the backside of the head. That'll put you right out like a baby in warm pool of soothing blood.

Wait, does "sleep aid" NOT mean "murder" in this context?

not unless he dies.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 18 August 2013, 19:36:04
They used to sell this stuff called Drank at gas stations that made Mellow Tea and Lazy Cakes look like energy drinks. Man, even half a can of Drank would knock out a bull elephant, it had a metric ****ton of melatonin and valerian root in it.

wouldn't all that melotonin be very bad for you?


I tried it twice, once by itself and once mixed with a can of (the old formula) Four Loko and would venture that yes, it's probably quite unhealthy. Good times though.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: demik on Sun, 18 August 2013, 19:44:18
I find furiously masturbating with steel wool to bbw conjoined twin midget crushing pron, then eating a can of cat food, huffing some model glue, and lightly choking myself works very well when unable to sleep.

it's not the fapping.

it's the regret that makes you sleepy.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: Trent on Sun, 18 August 2013, 21:02:57
Good old ambien
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 19 August 2013, 01:08:49
I find furiously masturbating with steel wool to bbw conjoined twin midget crushing pron, then eating a can of cat food, huffing some model glue, and lightly choking myself works very well when unable to sleep.

it's not the fapping.

it's the regret that makes you sleepy.

What could turtle possibly regret after going "That Far" with his 'bation routine..

Can one really get more out of life than that? :))
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: davkol on Mon, 19 August 2013, 03:50:22
Hot milk with honey.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: tipo33 on Mon, 19 August 2013, 03:54:55
Vodka.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: davkol on Mon, 19 August 2013, 04:24:43
Vodka.

Beer works better in my experience. Well, maybe not American beer... but that usually doesn't have much to do with beer anyway.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 19 August 2013, 04:34:09
Vodka.

Beer works better in my experience. Well, maybe not American beer... but that usually doesn't have much to do with beer anyway.

You guys must not get our microbrews over in the Czech Republic, huh?
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: davkol on Mon, 19 August 2013, 07:11:03
Vodka.

Beer works better in my experience. Well, maybe not American beer... but that usually doesn't have much to do with beer anyway.

You guys must not get our microbrews over in the Czech Republic, huh?

We have our own. But the point is... does a pizzeria in America make/serve American, or Italian pizzas?
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: badcop on Mon, 19 August 2013, 07:13:06
i took a melatonin pill last night after finding a bottle in my medicine cabinet from my girlfriend.

i slept like a damn rock and woke up feeling great.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 19 August 2013, 07:17:07
Vodka.

Beer works better in my experience. Well, maybe not American beer... but that usually doesn't have much to do with beer anyway.

You guys must not get our microbrews over in the Czech Republic, huh?

We have our own. But the point is... does a pizzeria in America make/serve American, or Italian pizzas?

Probably like many other places it depends on the pizzeria. Personally I like wood fired or Chicago style, but artisan style pizza is what would be considered 'Italian' pizza here in America.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:39:36
i took a melatonin pill last night after finding a bottle in my medicine cabinet from my girlfriend.

i slept like a damn rock and woke up feeling great.  :thumb:

those weren't melotonin....  :eek:
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: melt on Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:48:08
+1 for melatonin, 4mg works like a a dream for me haha
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:53:25
+1 for melatonin, 4mg works like a a dream for me haha

I tried the melatonin thing for about 3 weeks when I had some "issues" sleeping..  Eventually I stopped feeling the 4mg. and had to take 8-12... I didn't think it would ramp up that fast..
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: melt on Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:57:36
Quote
I tried the melatonin thing for about 3 weeks when I had some "issues" sleeping..  Eventually I stopped feeling the 4mg. and had to take 8-12... I didn't think it would ramp up that fast..

darn, dude, that's a lot of melatonin.  haha.  Yeah it messes with your circadian rhythm.  If you just use it to "correct" your sleeping problem for a few nights, then stop, I think it's effective.   :thumb:
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: divito on Mon, 19 August 2013, 20:11:14
darn, dude, that's a lot of melatonin.  haha.  Yeah it messes with your circadian rhythm.  If you just use it to "correct" your sleeping problem for a few nights, then stop, I think it's effective.   :thumb:

This. It's not meant as a sleeping pill. It'll work that way initially if you're sleep is out of whack though, generally. As stated, it's meant to reset your circadian rhythm which helps with the cycles of day and night.

Years ago, I went to my doctor for some help with falling asleep. I told him my mind raced, and I had issues falling asleep. He prescribed, off label, Seroquel, an anti-psychotic. Basically, you take it, and in 45 minutes, you get extremely groggy and off to dream land you go. One of the coolest feelings. But after my one bottle, I didn't really use it after.

My sleep was having issues again a little more recently, and took melatonin. I started with 5mg, and it sort of helped. I found that 10mg was closer to what my body needed.

And for the record, studies have shown that backlight, from monitors, phones etc... affects your melatonin levels. If you use devices a lot, you'll need more to compensate.

Edit - went to find an article that showcased it for anyone interested (I read about it awhile ago) : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2194806/Using-mobile-phones-tablets-bed-affecting-sleep-warn-scientists.html

This is a reason why F.lux wouldn't be a bad idea for some people.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: demik on Mon, 19 August 2013, 20:14:56
Vodka.

Beer works better in my experience. Well, maybe not American beer... but that usually doesn't have much to do with beer anyway.

the older you get, the faster you fall asleep after a beer.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 19 August 2013, 20:34:21
Vodka.

Beer works better in my experience. Well, maybe not American beer... but that usually doesn't have much to do with beer anyway.

the older you get, the faster you fall asleep after a beer.

Really? I find beer has less effectiveness with age.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: demik on Mon, 19 August 2013, 20:45:10
Vodka.

Beer works better in my experience. Well, maybe not American beer... but that usually doesn't have much to do with beer anyway.

the older you get, the faster you fall asleep after a beer.

Really? I find beer has less effectiveness with age.

hm, well i rarely drink anymore so maybe my body is not used to it anymore? dunno, but lately i've drank a beer or 2 and have gotten really sleepy.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 19 August 2013, 20:48:11
Vodka.

Beer works better in my experience. Well, maybe not American beer... but that usually doesn't have much to do with beer anyway.

the older you get, the faster you fall asleep after a beer.

Really? I find beer has less effectiveness with age.

hm, well i rarely drink anymore so maybe my body is not used to it anymore? dunno, but lately i've drank a beer or 2 and have gotten really sleepy.

Uhoh... that sounds like an insulin regulation problem.   You've got diabetes.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: demik on Mon, 19 August 2013, 20:49:21
Vodka.

Beer works better in my experience. Well, maybe not American beer... but that usually doesn't have much to do with beer anyway.

the older you get, the faster you fall asleep after a beer.

Really? I find beer has less effectiveness with age.

hm, well i rarely drink anymore so maybe my body is not used to it anymore? dunno, but lately i've drank a beer or 2 and have gotten really sleepy.

Uhoh... that sounds like an insulin regulation problem.   You've got diabetes.

that's nothing to joke about.

but nah no diabetes, thankfully. one of my biggest fears.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 19 August 2013, 20:53:23
Vodka.

Beer works better in my experience. Well, maybe not American beer... but that usually doesn't have much to do with beer anyway.

the older you get, the faster you fall asleep after a beer.

Really? I find beer has less effectiveness with age.

hm, well i rarely drink anymore so maybe my body is not used to it anymore? dunno, but lately i've drank a beer or 2 and have gotten really sleepy.

Uhoh... that sounds like an insulin regulation problem.   You've got diabetes.

that's nothing to joke about.

but nah no diabetes, thankfully. one of my biggest fears.

It could be early stages of type 2 diabetes. I recall that you're Asian, so I'd assume you eat buckets of rice.

Insulin resistance is VERY prevalent among the Asian population, as is Diabetes in late life 45-50+ of age.


Or was it mkawa that was asian.. hmm....
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: demik on Mon, 19 August 2013, 20:56:13
kawa is asian, i am not.

im mexican.. so that doesnt make it any better lol.

diabetes runs in my family, and i lost both my grandparents thanks to it. so yeah, i try not to fall into it as much as possible.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 19 August 2013, 21:02:38
kawa is asian, i am not.

im mexican.. so that doesnt make it any better lol.

diabetes runs in my family, and i lost both my grandparents thanks to it. so yeah, i try not to fall into it as much as possible.

mm hmm. gotta cut back on those high-carbs.

Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: demik on Mon, 19 August 2013, 21:03:22
gotta cut back on a lot of ****.

but when you're accustomed to it, it's a little hard. but not impossible.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 19 August 2013, 21:11:41
gotta cut back on a lot of ****.

but when you're accustomed to it, it's a little hard. but not impossible.


I did much homework on the subject.  the Diabetes part pretty much ONLY comes down to carbohydrate intake.

You can stuff yourself with as much Fats and Protein, it will not affect your blood sugar level anywhere near what can happen with a bag of cookies.

If diabetes is your "big-agenda"   then high-carbs is the only substance you need to regulate. 

Feel free to eat 10 steaks... you'll be fine..  well you should probably also eat celery sticks with 10 steaks unless you want severe constipation.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: iri on Tue, 20 August 2013, 05:39:57
gotta cut back on a lot of ****.

but when you're accustomed to it, it's a little hard. but not impossible.
i've cut back on ice cream. was even harder than to hop off heroine.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: TheQsanity on Tue, 20 August 2013, 09:13:08
Seraquel ****s with your sleeping. Take enough of it and you can be out for 24 hours. Its really hard to sleep without it once your on it. But yeah it knocks you out. You can fight it but 30 minutes after it kicks in, you're out.


Does melatonin promote better sleep once youre asleep? I hear that its "naturally occurring" "perfectly safe" and all but can it really **** you up?
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 20 August 2013, 09:18:00
benadryl is the classic "knock you out without any side effects". toxicity is basically negligible (you have to do like a cinnamon challenge for it to kill you). that said, it has immediate metabolic side effects and does screw with hormonal sleep structures, so don't take it habitually. it can become habit forming (like every other sleep aid) in that it becomes difficult to sleep without your sleep aid as a trigger.

the best way to regulate your sleep artificially is light exposure. look up light therapy. it is also clinically proven to help with seasonal depressive disorders.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: TheQsanity on Tue, 20 August 2013, 09:22:46
I saw a YouTube video on that. Using artificial light or electronic devices at night time messes up your natural sleeping pattern, before the invention of the lightbulb.

 
feature=youtube_gdata_player

I know its not light therapy but I guess its in a similar realm.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 23 August 2013, 22:21:51
no need for youtube videos. the literature on it is quite readable. the basic idea is to expose yourself to as much sunlight or artificial UV-filtered light as possible in the morning within 15 minutes of waking up, and then to taper off your light exposure after noon. studies worked with about 10klm aimed downward at about a 30 degree angle to simulate sunlight. while doing this, you also need to practice superb sleep hygiene, going as far as timing meals and eating specific compositions and compounds at mealtimes. it can also help to use blue-light filtering glasses, as the eyes are particularly sensitive to light in the blue spectrum.

when performed properly, it has been empirically shown to be extremely effective at allowing one to regulate sleep structures _without medication_. however, as these things usually are, it is quite difficult to do properly, and should be guided by a professional

in studies, melatonin was shown to be effective when used in a very specific way. basically, melatonin is produced naturally with the tapering of light exposure by the pineal gland, and typical serum levels are in the 0.25mg range at peak. hence, if you find that your body is not producing melatonin on schedule DESPITE the above, very small dosages (most synthetic melatonin is just metabolized..) in the 0.5mg range about 4-5 hours before your timed bedtime have been shown to sometimes help speed up the process of recovering normal or desired hormonal rythms. Note that I specifically mentioned timed bedtime. sleep hygiene and light therapy call for timing wake-up time, bedtime, and mealtimes, _strictly_, and gradually pushing them toward your desired wake-up and sleep-time.

the summary of all this research is basically that sleep cycles in a normal healthy person are really determined by a few very important things, most importantly light exposure and meal times and compositions. you can use this information to do incredibly bizarre things to your sleep cycles, or to make it more normal. that is, IF you are a normal healthy person. there are a number of what are most likely hereditary disorders in which some people have abnormal responses to this stimuli, and for those people, this regimen can be ineffective or must be modified. hence, if you have serious problems in functioning because of sleep cycle issues, the best course of action is to see a specialist.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sat, 24 August 2013, 09:05:32
I'm doing night shift work for some weeks now, but for some reason I feel much more vital and less sleepy compared to morning shifts (have to get up at 4:30 then).
Seems sleeping all day and being up all night somehow fits my routines, habits, and natural sleep cycle much better, and getting more moneyz is another plus... :3
But, today I went up early and my eyes had serious problems getting adapted to the sun light, took like a half hour instead of some minutes, DAT GLARE! :cool:
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 24 August 2013, 09:17:42
this research was actually started in alaska/antarctica/iceland and other places really far north of the equator where there is no natural light at all for huge parts of the year and then TOO MUCH natural light for the rest. basically, they started playing around with light and discovered that you can artificially regulate sleep structures (which is what they call the hormone release and uptake patterns). so yah, you can do this same process but target it for your night shift and the cortisone will release at night instead of in the morning. when you start working day shift again, just gradually move your cycle back toward the day.

the gold standard in light boxes is the company now called "sunbox". their sunray is what was used in the clinical studies: http://sunbox.com/?products=sunray-ii

the important part of lightboxing is that the light is full spectrum (and not, oh yah it's full spectrum but tapers off by 6db at the upper and light limits of light emissivity..), uv filtered and consistent.
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 24 August 2013, 09:18:18
the sunrays are also bright as well get out. they will actually get 10k lux into the light receptions in your eyes (rods and cones ****)
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 24 August 2013, 10:29:49
the sunrays are also bright as well get out. they will actually get 10k lux into the light receptions in your eyes (rods and cones ****)

you mean.. go "out side" as in afk, with the grass, and leaves thing?

Why can't I just look out the window?

Does this work if I look out the window?
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/485c3a61.gif)
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 24 August 2013, 10:32:49
no, you need to go outside. even on a somewhat cloudy day, you can absorb the necessary light. the most sensitive receptors w/rt light and hormonal release in your eyes are kind of at the bottom of the retina, so the most effective way to get your light exposure is to take a 15 minute walk. it HAS to be within 15 minutes of waking up though. sleep hygiene says: "when you wake up, get out of bed immediately" light therapy says "immediately go outside after you get up and absorb some damn light in the cones of your retina"
Title: Re: Natural Sleep Aid
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 24 August 2013, 15:41:55
no, you need to go outside. even on a somewhat cloudy day, you can absorb the necessary light. the most sensitive receptors w/rt light and hormonal release in your eyes are kind of at the bottom of the retina, so the most effective way to get your light exposure is to take a 15 minute walk. it HAS to be within 15 minutes of waking up though. sleep hygiene says: "when you wake up, get out of bed immediately" light therapy says "immediately go outside after you get up and absorb some damn light in the cones of your retina"

Ok kawa..

I'ma do this tomorrow.

Risking exposure to the elements. (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/afd371da.gif)