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Title: I don't know which to buy
Post by: C5Allroad on Sun, 18 August 2013, 20:07:08
Ok guys I need a new keyboard. The corsair K70 or Ducky Shine 3? I like the LEDs on shine but I like the look of K70, not that I don't like the looks of the shine. Both are with Mx browns. Both have customizable LEDs where you can chose which keys stay on. But the ducky has those fancy patterns. So which should I buy I'm torn between the two.
I really like the media keys on the K70 but I really like the look of the Ducky and those LEDs look so sexy.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: Xenderwind on Sun, 18 August 2013, 20:08:29
If it's between those two, the ducky shine 3 for sure.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: C5Allroad on Sun, 18 August 2013, 20:32:37
Is there a specific reason why? I really like the multimedia keys though. Is there a external set of keys that have play pause next previous and a volume wheel? Which keyboard is more reliable.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 18 August 2013, 20:44:20
If you prioritize the media keys, then the K70. Otherwise, Ducky.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: kmiller8 on Sun, 18 August 2013, 21:00:05
Either one is a good choice, personally I'd take the K70 because corsair fixed their problems with their newer line of keyboard (full-mech, not some half-rubberdome crap) I really like the exposed plate type thing Corsair has been doing as well, and the media keys are a nice touch.

As for the Ducky, it's a keyboard, that glows, in fancy ways.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 18 August 2013, 21:11:26
Welcome to Geekhack!

I'd go Ducky (I have two already, both are great).
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: TimIsABat on Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:32:18
Model M.

Ducky quality isn't too bad and looks better IMO.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: gunbuster363 on Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:34:57
Model M.

Ducky quality isn't too bad and looks better IMO.

I heard that model m is not compatible with modern keyboard, is this true?
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: UniClown on Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:39:54
I'd warn you about the Shine 3. While the cool LED stuff looks cool now, you probably won't get much enjoyment out of it after about a month. The K70 would be great if you are into it's aesthetics as well.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:46:55
Model M.

Ducky quality isn't too bad and looks better IMO.

I heard that model m is not compatible with modern keyboard, is this true?

Model M is fine.  You will need a good PS/2 to USB converter (as most modern computers do not have PS/2 port).

I am using a Model M on a Mac with no problems at all (other than missing an Option key).
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: TimIsABat on Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:49:19
Model M.

Ducky quality isn't too bad and looks better IMO.

I heard that model m is not compatible with modern keyboard, is this true?

After you buy a PS/2 to USB adapter then you would be fine. I use an Adesso converter that I found on amazon for like 8 bucks and it works fine. I love it and even tried it with gaming. No hinderance for MOBA and RTS...it even helped me be more precise. I didn't suffer too much with FPS gaming, but it took a good 20 mins to get used to since the keys are heavier and loud. Use Autohotkey to map the function keys as media keys and you will be fine. I personally don't need media keys because I use the side switches on my Deathadder 2013 as volume control, so I'm fine. I used to be a person so into the macro keys and media keys, but after getting addicted to this hobby, I found better alternatives.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:53:00
Actually, if you have SDL port on the keyboard, I can highly recommend one of these: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/270955553909
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: zoolzoo on Mon, 19 August 2013, 08:05:23
I think the K70 looks way better.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 19 August 2013, 08:24:12
I would go with which one fits your usage better. Looks tend to not matter as much over time.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: GeeGee on Mon, 19 August 2013, 08:56:04
Welcome to Geekhack!

Do yourself a favor and get the Ducky.
GL with your future board!
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: C5Allroad on Mon, 19 August 2013, 19:24:29
Wow thanks for all the responses. I wasn't expecting this. :) I think I'm going for the Ducky. I really like the looks but is it comfortable without a wrist rest? I really like my K90 wrist rest but I want a ducky now with N-key rollover. And all those LED modes are sexy.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: TimIsABat on Mon, 19 August 2013, 19:37:02
Wow thanks for all the responses. I wasn't expecting this. :) I think I'm going for the Ducky. I really like the looks but is it comfortable without a wrist rest? I really like my K90 wrist rest but I want a ducky now with N-key rollover. And all those LED modes are sexy.

you really shouldn't be typing with your wrist on anything in the first place, but I don't have a wrist rest on any of my boards and I do just fine.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 19 August 2013, 19:40:28
Wow thanks for all the responses. I wasn't expecting this. :) I think I'm going for the Ducky. I really like the looks but is it comfortable without a wrist rest? I really like my K90 wrist rest but I want a ducky now with N-key rollover. And all those LED modes are sexy.

Third party wrist rests are available from a number of sources, including right here on GH (especially if you want a custom-made wooden one, and very nice they are too).
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 August 2013, 06:09:47
Wow thanks for all the responses. I wasn't expecting this. :) I think I'm going for the Ducky. I really like the looks but is it comfortable without a wrist rest? I really like my K90 wrist rest but I want a ducky now with N-key rollover. And all those LED modes are sexy.

you really shouldn't be typing with your wrist on anything in the first place, but I don't have a wrist rest on any of my boards and I do just fine.
Is there a reason why? I don't really rest my wrist but I use the wrist included with my K90 and a palm support is that ok to do?
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:26:41
I've been searching about resting wrists all day and I see that it's bad. But is resting my palms ok?
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: Thimplum on Tue, 20 August 2013, 17:18:32
Looks tend to not matter as much over time.

Sooooo true. I got a 2012 Naga partially because the green backlighting was JUST THAT AWESOME! Now I hardly even notice it any more. And then there are people who see it sitting on the desk and say "WOAH THAT MUST BE THE GREATEST MOUSE EVER IT LOOKS SO AWESOME!"


Just... just no...
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: vun on Tue, 20 August 2013, 17:24:09
Looks tend to not matter as much over time.

Sooooo true. I got a 2012 Naga partially because the green backlighting was JUST THAT AWESOME! Now I hardly even notice it any more. And then there are people who see it sitting on the desk and say "WOAH THAT MUST BE THE GREATEST MOUSE EVER IT LOOKS SO AWESOME!"


Just... just no...

I bought, and like, my Naga 2012 for different reasons, but I've gotta admit that when I see it, or my Lachesis, sitting on my Goliathus pad I do think "man, that does look sleek."
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: Thimplum on Tue, 20 August 2013, 17:29:57
Looks tend to not matter as much over time.

Sooooo true. I got a 2012 Naga partially because the green backlighting was JUST THAT AWESOME! Now I hardly even notice it any more. And then there are people who see it sitting on the desk and say "WOAH THAT MUST BE THE GREATEST MOUSE EVER IT LOOKS SO AWESOME!"


Just... just no...

I bought, and like, my Naga 2012 for different reasons, but I've gotta admit that when I see it, or my Lachesis, sitting on my Goliathus pad I do think "man, that does look sleek."

Oh, I like my Naga all right. I find it useful when I'm working in blender and use the side buttons instead of the INCREDIBLY awkward keyboard shortcuts.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: zoolzoo on Tue, 20 August 2013, 17:40:43
Does it have to be full size? Why not TKL?
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 August 2013, 17:43:43
I want a full size board not TKL because I use the number pad a lot.
So is resting palm ok? I don't like to have my arm suspended to type.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: MTManiac on Tue, 20 August 2013, 17:55:27
buy them both, or even more, and return/resell/trade the ones you don't like
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 August 2013, 18:23:41
Ok so I'm set on set on the Ducky. Now I would like to know whether it's ok to rest my palms or not I would like a wrist rest to rest my palm I get strain on my shoulder when I type with my wrist 2-3 inches above my desk. Would it be ok to put the wrist rest near my elbow about 4 inches away from my wrist and let my arm rest on it? I really don't know since I came from a laptop keyboard and let my wrist rest on the computer it self besides the touchpad.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: GeeGee on Tue, 20 August 2013, 18:38:59
Ok so I'm set on set on the Ducky. Now I would like to know whether it's ok to rest my palms or not I would like a wrist rest to rest my palm I get strain on my shoulder when I type with my wrist 2-3 inches above my desk. Would it be ok to put the wrist rest near my elbow about 4 inches away from my wrist and let my arm rest on it? I really don't know since I came from a laptop keyboard and let my wrist rest on the computer it self besides the touchpad.
This is all personal preference. I personally hate wrist rests, but it all depends on what you like/at what angle your arms are.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 20 August 2013, 18:55:48
Ok so I'm set on set on the Ducky. Now I would like to know whether it's ok to rest my palms or not I would like a wrist rest to rest my palm I get strain on my shoulder when I type with my wrist 2-3 inches above my desk. Would it be ok to put the wrist rest near my elbow about 4 inches away from my wrist and let my arm rest on it? I really don't know since I came from a laptop keyboard and let my wrist rest on the computer it self besides the touchpad.

Difficult to tell - everyone is different.

I get by just fine without a wrist rest.

Others swear by them.

You can always try without and see how you go, and then try a rolled up towel or length of wood or something to see if it makes any difference.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 August 2013, 18:57:35
Oh ok. But I read on http://ergocanada.com/ergo/rests/ergonomic_usage_of_wrist_rests.html.
The K90 is a tall keyboard how tall is the Ducky?
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 20 August 2013, 19:05:43
My Shine 1 is just under 2cm tall at the front of the case, and another 1cm for the OEM keycaps, so just under 3cm total.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 August 2013, 21:07:37
Oooh that makes me want it my K90 feels a little tall at about 2.5CM next to the cable and where your wrist would be closest to is about 1.3CM I really want it now. Thanks guys!
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: Thimplum on Wed, 21 August 2013, 09:56:16
Oooh that makes me want it my K90 feels a little tall at about 2.5CM next to the cable and where your wrist would be closest to is about 1.3CM I really want it now. Thanks guys!

If you get a wrist rest, DON'T put your wrists on it! That's bad.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 August 2013, 10:02:00
Oooh that makes me want it my K90 feels a little tall at about 2.5CM next to the cable and where your wrist would be closest to is about 1.3CM I really want it now. Thanks guys!

If you get a wrist rest, DON'T put your wrists on it! That's bad.

What's the proper use of a wrist wrest then? I don't use one as I haven't seen a need to. Just curious.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: Thimplum on Wed, 21 August 2013, 10:04:42
Oooh that makes me want it my K90 feels a little tall at about 2.5CM next to the cable and where your wrist would be closest to is about 1.3CM I really want it now. Thanks guys!

If you get a wrist rest, DON'T put your wrists on it! That's bad.

What's the proper use of a wrist wrest then? I don't use one as I haven't seen a need to. Just curious.

For the palms. They are very misnamed. If you put your wrists on it, then you can get MORE strain of the tendons, and that's bad.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 21 August 2013, 14:46:39
I'd put my palms on it. My arms get tired since my desk is kinda tall and I don't have a keyboard drawer. I also lean back on my chair so I get comfortable also I don't like to hover my wrists I like to rest my palms not my wrists. That's why I want a "wrist rest" to put right besides the keyboard. And not rest my wrists.
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: Jackasaur on Wed, 21 August 2013, 15:03:15
Ducky Shine 3 is the way to go :D
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 21 August 2013, 18:29:10
Ok guys I will be buying a ducky shine 3. I also will be buying this "wrist rest" http://www.maxkeyboard.com/max-keyboard-ergonomic-foam-wrist-pad.html
Is that a good wrist rest?
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: Thimplum on Wed, 21 August 2013, 19:39:17
Ok guys I will be buying a ducky shine 3. I also will be buying this "wrist rest" http://www.maxkeyboard.com/max-keyboard-ergonomic-foam-wrist-pad.html
Is that a good wrist rest?

I've never used it, But I'm skeptical of the slope. The slope is kind of what you're trying to get rid of...
Title: Re: I don't know which to buy
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 21 August 2013, 21:20:36
My desk is higher so my arm would rest on the edge and it hurts. If I put the keyboard at the edge it's awkward and doesn't feel right I would unconsciously rest my wrist on the desk. And when I game I use a palm rest on my K90 I'm fine. But I want a Ducky and as that doesn't come with one I was looking. Would there be less slope if I use that wrist rest?