MX clears have an interesting force curve that makes bottoming out so unpleasant that you stop doing it pretty quickly :) The force rises so sharply after the actuation point that it's actually quite easy to get used to letting go of the switch before it bottoms out, unlike pretty much every other switch. That means that you lose the loud clack that is the greatest source of noise. (Key return, and the play within the switch itself, will remain.)
Now there's no turning back, I placed the order last night :) Along with the keyboard, I got the "firm" landing pads and that wired key remover. MAN the shipping costs hurt a lot, ~58$! The total sum was 122euro (162$) which to be honest is about right, if I got some other keyboard online from stores in Greece (a couple Coolmaster), with shipping costs it'd still be around 110euro so... yeah.
Cross my fingers that I like it :)
And something else, you guys and this site are evil! :P I haven't even got the keyboard yet and I'm already thinking of getting custom keys! I definitely want that Minecraft creeper face I saw somewhere...
Hopefully soon I'll be one of you :)
Now there's no turning back, I placed the order last night :) Along with the keyboard, I got the "firm" landing pads and that wired key remover. MAN the shipping costs hurt a lot, ~58$! The total sum was 122euro (162$) which to be honest is about right, if I got some other keyboard online from stores in Greece (a couple Coolmaster), with shipping costs it'd still be around 110euro so... yeah.
Cross my fingers that I like it :)
And something else, you guys and this site are evil! :P I haven't even got the keyboard yet and I'm already thinking of getting custom keys! I definitely want that Minecraft creeper face I saw somewhere...
Hopefully soon I'll be one of you :)
Now there's no turning back, I placed the order last night :) Along with the keyboard, I got the "firm" landing pads and that wired key remover. MAN the shipping costs hurt a lot, ~58$! The total sum was 122euro (162$) which to be honest is about right, if I got some other keyboard online from stores in Greece (a couple Coolmaster), with shipping costs it'd still be around 110euro so... yeah.
Cross my fingers that I like it :)
And something else, you guys and this site are evil! :P I haven't even got the keyboard yet and I'm already thinking of getting custom keys! I definitely want that Minecraft creeper face I saw somewhere...
Hopefully soon I'll be one of you :)
OK I'm a little bit late, but maybe it's not too late.
If you have purchased at EliteKeyboard, the soft landing pads (the black ones) are better. They silence the keyboard even more.
I have a KBT Pure Pro with browns that I have silenced so much that I can type with my girlfriend and our baby in the same room, and it doesn't wake them up.
But the landing pads are only half of the trick. Silencing bottoming out is great, but a lot of noise is generated when you release the key, and this noise is very hard to avoid by changing the way you type. Fortunately I have an advice for you.
What you need is not only the soft landing pads from EK:
http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,slpads&pid=sl120_cs (http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,slpads&pid=sl120_cs)
but also their low-viscosity switch lubricant (it's not oil, it's grease):
http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2 (http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2)
You need to lube every switch, but as you are going to remove every keycap to put a landing pad anyway, it will not take much longer. Try with just a key first. You need to put the lube inside the switch, so you use the pipe to push the switch to the bottom (as if the key was pressed) while you press on the syringe. You apply the lube on the left and right inner side of the switch housing, holding the plunger down. You need to put quite a lot of lube in each switch, but try with one switch first.
The result of the operation (landing pads + lube) is an incredibly silent keyboard. You don't hear anything when you bottom out. You don't hear much when the key goes back in its "released" position (which is the part of the key press that is the loudest generally and that will only be silenced with grease - I know of no other way to do it). You will feel that the switches have slightly more resistance, which is due to the grease. This is how the silencing on the release of the key works. The key will go "up" slightly slower, and hit the housing less hard.
I guess it's not too late to contact EK and have them modify your order. The lube is only $6.00 and it's excellent.
Get linears and learn to type without bottoming out. Or scoop a Matias Quiet if you're really concerned :DAlso important for noise is learning to type without "topping out". All my cherry keyboards make some noise when the slider returns to it's rest position. Slowing down a little makes it easier to quiet this top out noise. Bottoming out noise can be effective silenced by the installation of o-rings or soft landing pads.
Oh and welcome to GH ^__^
Get linears and learn to type without bottoming out. Or scoop a Matias Quiet if you're really concerned :DAlso important for noise is learning to type without "topping out".
Oh and welcome to GH ^__^
All my cherry keyboards make some noise when the slider returns to it's rest position. Slowing down a little makes it easier to quiet this top out noise. Bottoming out noise can be effective silenced by the installation of o-rings or soft landing pads.
Get linears and learn to type without bottoming out. Or scoop a Matias Quiet if you're really concerned :DAlso important for noise is learning to type without "topping out".
Oh and welcome to GH ^__^
Really? I can't wait to try that. ;) The Matias switches are sound-dampened at the top as well as the bottom so it hasn't occurred to me to try.QuoteAll my cherry keyboards make some noise when the slider returns to it's rest position. Slowing down a little makes it easier to quiet this top out noise. Bottoming out noise can be effective silenced by the installation of o-rings or soft landing pads.
Hmmm...
1) requires some dis-assembly of the keyboard
2) does only half the job
Get linears and learn to type without bottoming out. Or scoop a Matias Quiet if you're really concerned :DAlso important for noise is learning to type without "topping out".
Oh and welcome to GH ^__^
Really? I can't wait to try that. ;) The Matias switches are sound-dampened at the top as well as the bottom so it hasn't occurred to me to try.QuoteAll my cherry keyboards make some noise when the slider returns to it's rest position. Slowing down a little makes it easier to quiet this top out noise. Bottoming out noise can be effective silenced by the installation of o-rings or soft landing pads.
Hmmm...
1) requires some dis-assembly of the keyboard
2) does only half the job
I don't think so.
1. No disassembly. You just remove the keycaps.
2. O-rings or soft landing pads reduce the sound of bottoming out. Soft landing pads are the best here. Grease dampen a lot the "back to up position" (is there a better term for that?). On Cherry MX you can apply grease without opening the switch so, again, just removing the keycaps are necessary. I know it can be done even better by opening the switch, but from my experience you don't even need to do that.
most of the noise comes from the keycap hitting the pcb really. if you touchtype there's no sound from most common switches(other than blue)
IF YOUR FAMILY DOESN'T LIKE YOUR CLICKY KEYBOARD, YOU CAN ALWAYS WHOP 'EM ON THE HEAD WITH IT. THAT'LL SHUT THEM UP FOR A WHILE.
IF YOUR FAMILY DOESN'T LIKE YOUR CLICKY KEYBOARD, YOU CAN ALWAYS WHOP 'EM ON THE HEAD WITH IT. THAT'LL SHUT THEM UP FOR A WHILE.
THAT'S NOT VERY HELPFUL.
IF YOUR FAMILY DOESN'T LIKE YOUR CLICKY KEYBOARD, YOU CAN ALWAYS WHOP 'EM ON THE HEAD WITH IT. THAT'LL SHUT THEM UP FOR A WHILE.
THAT'S NOT VERY HELPFUL.
YES IT IS VIOLENCE SOLVES EVERYTHING!
After almost 3 weeks with my Leopold Tenkeyless (Brown Switches), I believe it's time to report eh?
There's NO issue when using the keyboard late at night. Of course I don't go bat-sh*t crazy "Hulk SMASH" bottoming the keys at night but still, there's no way I could wake my parents from typing.
I don't have to use the silencing rings I bought, I'm pretty good at touch-typing and it definitely helps. Brown switches are really silent if you want them to be.
they just have an annoying sound to most people (not me!!! :P ).
imo, i don't think blues are 'loud' in terms of 'decibels', they just have an annoying sound to most people (not me!!! :P ).
based on what I've heard on youtube sound comparisons, blues are barely lourder than topres when you exclude the frequency differences (topre is exceptionally low-pitched (a more relaxing sound) compared to BS and blues)
imo, i don't think blues are 'loud' in terms of 'decibels', they just have an annoying sound to most people (not me!!! :P ).
based on what I've heard on youtube sound comparisons, blues are barely lourder than topres when you exclude the frequency differences (topre is exceptionally low-pitched (a more relaxing sound) compared to BS and blues)
They are louder bottoming out than clicking, but the pitch of the click does annoy some people - it is like an irregular high-pitched tick.
imo, i don't think blues are 'loud' in terms of 'decibels', they just have an annoying sound to most people (not me!!! :P ).Anything with a higher frequency (to a certain extent) like the "click" of blues will sound louder than things at the same dB with a lower frequency like the "thock" of a Topre. It's just the way the human ear works. They are more sensitive to that range of frequency. You could blast a very low tone at a very high dB level and not even hear it as a human. This is why the voice of a small child talking normally seems to pierce through more than an adult voice. It's not technically louder. The same principal can be used to compare a "click" to a "thock". For anyone that is interested, the human voice has an approximate frequency range between 300Hz - 3400Hz. This is the range that the human ear is designed to hear best.
based on what I've heard on youtube sound comparisons, blues are barely lourder than topres when you exclude the frequency differences (topre is exceptionally low-pitched (a more relaxing sound) compared to BS and blues)
Yasu re vasoun. Do you live in Athens. We could have a 2 person meet up ;D Would like to try browns. I have reds.Elladaaaa!! :P Sadly no, I live in Xanthi. Have a couple of friends in Athens though, if I come to visit them I'll let you know.
No one knows how deep the rabbit hole is. It goes on forever as long as you have a credit card…Now there's no turning back, I placed the order last night :) Along with the keyboard, I got the "firm" landing pads and that wired key remover. MAN the shipping costs hurt a lot, ~58$! The total sum was 122euro (162$) which to be honest is about right, if I got some other keyboard online from stores in Greece (a couple Coolmaster), with shipping costs it'd still be around 110euro so... yeah.
Cross my fingers that I like it :)
And something else, you guys and this site are evil! :P I haven't even got the keyboard yet and I'm already thinking of getting custom keys! I definitely want that Minecraft creeper face I saw somewhere...
Hopefully soon I'll be one of you :)
Now you get to find out how deep the rabbit hole goes ;)
No one knows how deep the rabbit hole is. It goes on forever as long as you have a credit card…Now there's no turning back, I placed the order last night :) Along with the keyboard, I got the "firm" landing pads and that wired key remover. MAN the shipping costs hurt a lot, ~58$! The total sum was 122euro (162$) which to be honest is about right, if I got some other keyboard online from stores in Greece (a couple Coolmaster), with shipping costs it'd still be around 110euro so... yeah.
Cross my fingers that I like it :)
And something else, you guys and this site are evil! :P I haven't even got the keyboard yet and I'm already thinking of getting custom keys! I definitely want that Minecraft creeper face I saw somewhere...
Hopefully soon I'll be one of you :)
Now you get to find out how deep the rabbit hole goes ;)