Chicken and other food provides more than just protein. Protein powder is great if you work out, but you still have to eat. My regular routine would be to drink two scoops of protein powder, then eat a 1/2 pound burger from a deli, or a footlong from Subways.
Well, the chicken can act as a decent meal and provide a good supply of proteins. The protein powder is just a waste of money marketed at idiots.
Chicken wins.
Chicken and other food provides more than just protein. Protein powder is great if you work out, but you still have to eat. My regular routine would be to drink two scoops of protein powder, then eat a 1/2 pound burger from a deli, or a footlong from Subways.
Are there any other recommended protein powders besides ON? I don't see any good information on the other brands.
Chicken and other food provides more than just protein. Protein powder is great if you work out, but you still have to eat. My regular routine would be to drink two scoops of protein powder, then eat a 1/2 pound burger from a deli, or a footlong from Subways.
Are there any other recommended protein powders besides ON? I don't see any good information on the other brands.
I personally like Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey. They aren't that expensive. You also get most of what is advertise, and it gives one of the highest amount of protein per scoop. If I remember correctly, Optimum Nutrition Platinum Hydro Whey delivers the most of all brands of the protein that is advertised. It does work in a different way and does cost more though.
There was a huge article in one of Swedens biggest newspapers that protein powders is harmful to your inner organs in the long run, so I tend to stay away from it.
Chicken and other food provides more than just protein. Protein powder is great if you work out, but you still have to eat. My regular routine would be to drink two scoops of protein powder, then eat a 1/2 pound burger from a deli, or a footlong from Subways.
Are there any other recommended protein powders besides ON? I don't see any good information on the other brands.
I personally like Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey. They aren't that expensive. You also get most of what is advertise, and it gives one of the highest amount of protein per scoop. If I remember correctly, Optimum Nutrition Platinum Hydro Whey delivers the most of all brands of the protein that is advertised. It does work in a different way and does cost more though.
You seem quite in-the-know..
Could I get your input on Creatine.. Is it necessary for 135lbs going to 145lbs? I only need 10lbs, and I'm done.
There was a huge article in one of Swedens biggest newspapers that protein powders is harmful to your inner organs in the long run, so I tend to stay away from it.
It's called Dagens Nyheter, their website is dn.se I think.
Chicken and other food provides more than just protein. Protein powder is great if you work out, but you still have to eat. My regular routine would be to drink two scoops of protein powder, then eat a 1/2 pound burger from a deli, or a footlong from Subways.
Are there any other recommended protein powders besides ON? I don't see any good information on the other brands.
I personally like Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey. They aren't that expensive. You also get most of what is advertise, and it gives one of the highest amount of protein per scoop. If I remember correctly, Optimum Nutrition Platinum Hydro Whey delivers the most of all brands of the protein that is advertised. It does work in a different way and does cost more though.
You seem quite in-the-know..
Could I get your input on Creatine.. Is it necessary for 135lbs going to 145lbs? I only need 10lbs, and I'm done.
Eat hard and you will gain 10 pounds without Creatine. I wouldn't bother with supplements. 10 pounds at 135 shouldn't be hard to gain in a month or two.There was a huge article in one of Swedens biggest newspapers that protein powders is harmful to your inner organs in the long run, so I tend to stay away from it.
That somewhat true, but that's why it is very important to use a brand that has been thoroughly tested. Like the contaminated milk in China, there are also not so good protein powders. It's a mix of random **** to create more powder. Pure protein powder alone does not harm anything. Whey protein in general are also safer.
Their website have some pay only sections I believe, I read it in the physical version.It's called Dagens Nyheter, their website is dn.se I think.
hmm.. I don't see anything come up for proteintillskott search
Chicken and other food provides more than just protein. Protein powder is great if you work out, but you still have to eat. My regular routine would be to drink two scoops of protein powder, then eat a 1/2 pound burger from a deli, or a footlong from Subways.
Are there any other recommended protein powders besides ON? I don't see any good information on the other brands.
I personally like Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey. They aren't that expensive. You also get most of what is advertise, and it gives one of the highest amount of protein per scoop. If I remember correctly, Optimum Nutrition Platinum Hydro Whey delivers the most of all brands of the protein that is advertised. It does work in a different way and does cost more though.
You seem quite in-the-know..
Could I get your input on Creatine.. Is it necessary for 135lbs going to 145lbs? I only need 10lbs, and I'm done.
Eat hard and you will gain 10 pounds without Creatine. I wouldn't bother with supplements. 10 pounds at 135 shouldn't be hard to gain in a month or two.There was a huge article in one of Swedens biggest newspapers that protein powders is harmful to your inner organs in the long run, so I tend to stay away from it.
That somewhat true, but that's why it is very important to use a brand that has been thoroughly tested. Like the contaminated milk in China, there are also not so good protein powders. It's a mix of random **** to create more powder. Pure protein powder alone does not harm anything. Whey protein in general are also safer.
a month or 2?
So, truth be told I'm watching this weird scooby guy's workout tips, and on his site, he says that it's only possible to gain 5-10lbs of lean body mass per year for adults. (assuming you did everything right)
There was a huge article in one of Swedens biggest newspapers that protein powders is harmful to your inner organs in the long run, so I tend to stay away from it.
There was a huge article in one of Swedens biggest newspapers that protein powders is harmful to your inner organs in the long run, so I tend to stay away from it.
I think people should remember that protein powder is made from milk, and not some kind of special fairy dust. In large amounts, and the wrong diet, all kinds of protein can be bad in the long run. I'd really like to see that article....
The supplement industry in general is a giant marketing scam. Whey is actually one of the few supplements that does have some merit, but not that much. The amount of protein actually required - even for someone purposefully trying to gain muscle - is far less than supplement companies would have you believe.
Bodybuilders, powerlifters, etc. use whey protein powder and other supplements because they're paid to through sponsorship deals, otherwise those with any sense wouldn't bother. Plenty massive guys in strength sports get by fine without them, relying instead on genetics, general calorie surplus, a gram or two of testosterone a week, and various other steroids.
The supplement industry in general is a giant marketing scam. Whey is actually one of the few supplements that does have some merit, but not that much. The amount of protein actually required - even for someone purposefully trying to gain muscle - is far less than supplement companies would have you believe.
Bodybuilders, powerlifters, etc. use whey protein powder and other supplements because they're paid to through sponsorship deals, otherwise those with any sense wouldn't bother. Plenty massive guys in strength sports get by fine without them, relying instead on genetics, general calorie surplus, a gram or two of testosterone a week, and various other steroids.
That is totally not true. Plenty professional athletes use protein powder. I can't think of anyone who is on steroids but does not use protein powder. Bodybuilders don't use protein powder only because they are sponsored. Many bodybuilders aren't even sponsored, because it's controversial to sponsor someone who is juicing. Most people also consume a bit too much protein than is necessary, which is why "protein ****s" are common. Your body can only absorb so much protein, and only absorbs part of what is consumed. It is much more important to have a proper diet and workout than to use protein powder. Protein powder and other supplements are useful if a person wants to see more gain.
The supplement industry in general is a giant marketing scam. Whey is actually one of the few supplements that does have some merit, but not that much. The amount of protein actually required - even for someone purposefully trying to gain muscle - is far less than supplement companies would have you believe.
Bodybuilders, powerlifters, etc. use whey protein powder and other supplements because they're paid to through sponsorship deals, otherwise those with any sense wouldn't bother. Plenty massive guys in strength sports get by fine without them, relying instead on genetics, general calorie surplus, a gram or two of testosterone a week, and various other steroids.
That is totally not true. Plenty professional athletes use protein powder. I can't think of anyone who is on steroids but does not use protein powder. Bodybuilders don't use protein powder only because they are sponsored. Many bodybuilders aren't even sponsored, because it's controversial to sponsor someone who is juicing. Most people also consume a bit too much protein than is necessary, which is why "protein ****s" are common. Your body can only absorb so much protein, and only absorbs part of what is consumed. It is much more important to have a proper diet and workout than to use protein powder. Protein powder and other supplements are useful if a person wants to see more gain.
Well, truth is, IDK if it'll work either, haha, but the cost to "find out" is quite trivial.
If it works, great
If it doesn't do much at all, I bought a $100 lesson in what not to do.Show Image(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bDaY0WVWw28/TdU20ylrBUI/AAAAAAAADik/USJ-Z9S19bA/s1600/tuzki36.gif)
Take it from someone who started working out before Schwarzenegger was acting under the stage name Arnold Strong and debuted in the embarrassing disaster "Hercules in New York". Back then we didn't know about fast/slow twitch muscle, creatine or the superiority of whey protein. Imagine my disillusionment when I found out all those guys were on steroids. I was pretty naive then, I'm still a little gullible. Here's what I discovered. Training regimens and dietary recommendations change but there will always be a shill pushing some miracle formulation promising almost unbelievable results. The body needs protein and muscles are made of the stuff but it's unlikely that your system will be able to naturally assimilate more than you can eat without protein supplements. As I remember it, amino acids are just carbohydrates with nitrogen attached to them. The body will only absorb so much protein at a time and the liver is then given the task of turning it into carbs and eliminating the nitrogen. This strain on the liver can be a cause for concern.
I'm sure my understanding is based on old science and my memory probably doesn't remember a lot of what I knew then anyways but I do know that like someone mentioned earlier you will make rapid gains early but will eventually reach a point of diminishing returns. That's when we need to realize that our genetics is what is limiting us. We will improve some but not much more and the cost is unlikely worth it.
"Eat healthy, get moderate exercise and keep all the areas of your life in balance." I wish someone would have told me that 45 years ago. I guess they did, I just knew too much then to listen.
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Another thing you have to acknowledge is that protein is also often a placebo, because you are taking it (are you taking it before or after exercise? There is a whole other argument there!) before you feel as though you should be able to stretch yourself further and do so. I'm not saying the whole thing is a placebo but there is a placebo effect.
Take it from someone who started working out before Schwarzenegger was acting under the stage name Arnold Strong and debuted in the embarrassing disaster "Hercules in New York". Back then we didn't know about fast/slow twitch muscle, creatine or the superiority of whey protein. Imagine my disillusionment when I found out all those guys were on steroids. I was pretty naive then, I'm still a little gullible. Here's what I discovered. Training regimens and dietary recommendations change but there will always be a shill pushing some miracle formulation promising almost unbelievable results. The body needs protein and muscles are made of the stuff but it's unlikely that your system will be able to naturally assimilate more than you can eat without protein supplements. As I remember it, amino acids are just carbohydrates with nitrogen attached to them. The body will only absorb so much protein at a time and the liver is then given the task of turning it into carbs and eliminating the nitrogen. This strain on the liver can be a cause for concern.
I'm sure my understanding is based on old science and my memory probably doesn't remember a lot of what I knew then anyways but I do know that like someone mentioned earlier you will make rapid gains early but will eventually reach a point of diminishing returns. That's when we need to realize that our genetics is what is limiting us. We will improve some but not much more and the cost is unlikely worth it.
"Eat healthy, get moderate exercise and keep all the areas of your life in balance." I wish someone would have told me that 45 years ago. I guess they did, I just knew too much then to listen.
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So ur saying, don't take the powder?Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/efb50fe2.gif)
Why not just eat a salad?
Why not just eat a salad?
I heard salad is a great building block for muscles.
maybe I'm oversimplifying it, but I thought you took a protein shake right after (30 minute window) a workout so your body had easy access to protein to build new muscle tissue and rebuild muscle tissue you destroyed while working out
if you are taking a protein shake any other time of the day isn't that called weight watchers from the 80's?
useless, gets metabolized.what is useless, protein powder?
the whey and soy proteins that are eaten by most people as some kind of BEEFCAKE powder are broken down into simple sugars nearly as easily as simple sugars alone. hence, because the body doesn't really need all that much serum protein at any one time, that's generally what it does with them. liver function bloodwork will tell you if you have a serious protein deficiency, but if you don't, augmenting your diet with huge amounts of protein isn't all that great. if you need to raise your blood sugar quickly, for example, in the middle of a marathon, when your reserves are exhausted and you're literally running on what you can metabolize, go with the simple glucose gels. they are much more effective.
fat is one of the hardest things for your body to deal with, processing it requires a fair amount of exertion from your pancreas to excrete the enzyme that digests it. it's still a positive energy metabolic rx (unlike, say, celery or something else that's all water and insoluble fibers), but it's a lot more stress on your body, and isn't directly used very often. most often it's broken down slowly, then reformed into fat when your body finds out that you're a 21st century digital boy and just sit in front of the computer all day.
I don't like it. Makes me gassy.
You have to mix it with a liquid. :))
I don't like it. Makes me gassy.
I just got my tubs. optimum nutrition whey strawberry // casein chocolate
This stuff taste terribad...
I can't believe people will eat this..
I am feeling emotionally distressed as something this awful can't possibly be good for me.
UNSURE, if it's just emotion or if I am "being-poisoned"
Is it suppose to be like medicine, where it taste bad but is good for you.. ugh....Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/c8908497.gif)Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/c8908497.gif)
As a premed student who finished his bio series, whey protein is essentially worthless when digested, but hypothetically if you drink it, it might work but a balanced diet is the best way to go honestly
As a premed student who finished his bio series, whey protein is essentially worthless when digested, but hypothetically if you drink it, it might work but a balanced diet is the best way to go honestly
Hi, meiosis, Could you give some details as to how you've arrived at your conclusion?Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/baa60776.gif)
As a premed student who finished his bio series, whey protein is essentially worthless when digested, but hypothetically if you drink it, it might work but a balanced diet is the best way to go honestly
Hi, meiosis, Could you give some details as to how you've arrived at your conclusion?Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/baa60776.gif)
Well essentially whey protein is there to supplement for an unbalanced diet where you might have deficiencies. They body cannot process the amount of whey intake normally especially if you eat a balanced diet where you get your protein from meat. So the whey protein you drink actually just comes out your butt since it isn't processed into your muscle if you can't use it fast enough. I recall there was a study where they protein couldn't even be used up as long as you had like a chicken breast a day o-o. It's probably the placebo effect where if someone drinks they whey protein it's usually correlated with them working out as well, and from there that's already a better habit.
I think liquid whey protein works though, I think ON sells something like that :P. Liquids are processed much faster and efficiently which is why you pee more in a day than poo
As a premed student who finished his bio series, whey protein is essentially worthless when digested, but hypothetically if you drink it, it might work but a balanced diet is the best way to go honestly
Hi, meiosis, Could you give some details as to how you've arrived at your conclusion?Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/baa60776.gif)
Well essentially whey protein is there to supplement for an unbalanced diet where you might have deficiencies. They body cannot process the amount of whey intake normally especially if you eat a balanced diet where you get your protein from meat. So the whey protein you drink actually just comes out your butt since it isn't processed into your muscle if you can't use it fast enough. I recall there was a study where they protein couldn't even be used up as long as you had like a chicken breast a day o-o. It's probably the placebo effect where if someone drinks they whey protein it's usually correlated with them working out as well, and from there that's already a better habit.
I think liquid whey protein works though, I think ON sells something like that :P. Liquids are processed much faster and efficiently which is why you pee more in a day than poo
ok.. so I have to buy their "liquid" protein? and not their "powder" protein?
But it all comes in a powder..
As a premed student who finished his bio series, whey protein is essentially worthless when digested, but hypothetically if you drink it, it might work but a balanced diet is the best way to go honestly
Hi, meiosis, Could you give some details as to how you've arrived at your conclusion?Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/baa60776.gif)
Well essentially whey protein is there to supplement for an unbalanced diet where you might have deficiencies. They body cannot process the amount of whey intake normally especially if you eat a balanced diet where you get your protein from meat. So the whey protein you drink actually just comes out your butt since it isn't processed into your muscle if you can't use it fast enough. I recall there was a study where they protein couldn't even be used up as long as you had like a chicken breast a day o-o. It's probably the placebo effect where if someone drinks they whey protein it's usually correlated with them working out as well, and from there that's already a better habit.
I think liquid whey protein works though, I think ON sells something like that :P. Liquids are processed much faster and efficiently which is why you pee more in a day than poo
ok.. so I have to buy their "liquid" protein? and not their "powder" protein?
But it all comes in a powder..
NO ones making you, why not just eat more meat ._., it'll only help if you are not getting enough from the food you eat.. Which usually covers more than enough in MURICA
As a premed student who finished his bio series, whey protein is essentially worthless when digested, but hypothetically if you drink it, it might work but a balanced diet is the best way to go honestly
Hi, meiosis, Could you give some details as to how you've arrived at your conclusion?Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/baa60776.gif)
Well essentially whey protein is there to supplement for an unbalanced diet where you might have deficiencies. They body cannot process the amount of whey intake normally especially if you eat a balanced diet where you get your protein from meat. So the whey protein you drink actually just comes out your butt since it isn't processed into your muscle if you can't use it fast enough. I recall there was a study where they protein couldn't even be used up as long as you had like a chicken breast a day o-o. It's probably the placebo effect where if someone drinks they whey protein it's usually correlated with them working out as well, and from there that's already a better habit.
I think liquid whey protein works though, I think ON sells something like that :P. Liquids are processed much faster and efficiently which is why you pee more in a day than poo
ok.. so I have to buy their "liquid" protein? and not their "powder" protein?
But it all comes in a powder..
NO ones making you, why not just eat more meat ._., it'll only help if you are not getting enough from the food you eat.. Which usually covers more than enough in MURICA
is there "any" validity to the recommended 1g / lb (0.45kg) of bodyweight Protein intake.. that you've come across?
Your body can absorb about 15 to 20g of whey protein from each shake after your workout. Of course everyone's body is different and the number will vary. Casein protein should be consumed about the same time as the whey protein. I wouldn't mess around with casein protein though. There is no reason why you can't eat food right after drinking a whey protein shake.
As for the amount of protein one should consume really depends on what they are doing. 1g per pound is about correct for a regular diet, a bit less is fine. A bit more if you exercise a bit. 2g per pound if you work out really hard. I do know people that take as much as 3g to 4g per pound, but I feel that is a bit excessive. If you don't work out, there is no need to be taking protein powder or supplements.
Stop with the ****ing processed foods and make your own food, using fresh materials. Your health will improve and it will be much easier to gain weight properly.
I haven't been in the research game in a long-ass time.
But check this out, http://www.jissn.com/content/4/1/8. I didn't bother reading all of it, but I don't think there are many research/test done for a period of over a month.
I haven't been in the research game in a long-ass time.
But check this out, http://www.jissn.com/content/4/1/8. I didn't bother reading all of it, but I don't think there are many research/test done for a period of over a month.
thx for that, I am going through it now.
It puts forth the renal issue which I am highly concerned about.. I know we have 2 kidneys but losing one would epic suck...
Hopefully they will start being able to grow working replacements.
is there "any" validity to the recommended 1g / lb (0.45kg) of bodyweight Protein intake.. that you've come across?Marketing BS, repeated ad infinitum until everyone thinks it's gospel. The only way you'd need close to that amount of protein intake is if you were on a gram of test a week, and even then you get guys like Mariusz Pudzianowski who's diet is 90% chocolate (he takes supplements due to his Met-RX endorsements, but that's hardly going to be why he's huge).
As a premed student who finished his bio series, whey protein is essentially worthless when digested, but hypothetically if you drink it, it might work but a balanced diet is the best way to go honestly
Hi, meiosis, Could you give some details as to how you've arrived at your conclusion?Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/baa60776.gif)
Well essentially whey protein is there to supplement for an unbalanced diet where you might have deficiencies. They body cannot process the amount of whey intake normally especially if you eat a balanced diet where you get your protein from meat. So the whey protein you drink actually just comes out your butt since it isn't processed into your muscle if you can't use it fast enough. I recall there was a study where they protein couldn't even be used up as long as you had like a chicken breast a day o-o. It's probably the placebo effect where if someone drinks they whey protein it's usually correlated with them working out as well, and from there that's already a better habit.
I think liquid whey protein works though, I think ON sells something like that :P. Liquids are processed much faster and efficiently which is why you pee more in a day than poo
ok.. so I have to buy their "liquid" protein? and not their "powder" protein?
But it all comes in a powder..
NO ones making you, why not just eat more meat ._., it'll only help if you are not getting enough from the food you eat.. Which usually covers more than enough in MURICA
is there "any" validity to the recommended 1g / lb (0.45kg) of bodyweight Protein intake.. that you've come across?
Well everyones different and depends on workout :P.
Honestly I only do cardio in the morning and before I sleep, I don't really want more muscle as I was born with quite broad shoulder bones >.<.
To each his own, if you feel it helps then take as much as you want, just know most of it will go to waste and maybe you will retain <3% of it. But for the most part eating a hearty breakfast gives most of the protein you need in a day
Dat dere Cell-Tech is all you need.Show Image(http://www.tampaforums.com/forums/attachments/health-fitness/6446d1187039359-supplements-anyone-take-dat-dere-cell-tech-datdereadvertisement.jpg)
Dat dere Cell-Tech is all you need.Show Image(http://www.tampaforums.com/forums/attachments/health-fitness/6446d1187039359-supplements-anyone-take-dat-dere-cell-tech-datdereadvertisement.jpg)
wanna ride a bicycle tonight brah?
I used to bodybuild before my wife and I had my son. Protein powder is mainly used as a supplement on top of the food you take in. Normal rule of thumb for muscle building is 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight. It's really hard to eat enough chicken breast a day to meet that goal which is why we use the powder or protein bars. Whatever.
Now creatine is another thing I used to use, but honestly... I never noticed much muscle growth.
Salads, although healthy, are better for cutting body fat during the months right before summer. Cutting season, whatever you wanna call it.
I tried Cell-tech and it was probably the best tasting but Whey protein is what I used more than anything.
Man... makes me wanna watch Pumping Iron now!
I used to bodybuild before my wife and I had my son. Protein powder is mainly used as a supplement on top of the food you take in. Normal rule of thumb for muscle building is 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight. It's really hard to eat enough chicken breast a day to meet that goal which is why we use the powder or protein bars. Whatever.
Now creatine is another thing I used to use, but honestly... I never noticed much muscle growth.
Salads, although healthy, are better for cutting body fat during the months right before summer. Cutting season, whatever you wanna call it.
I tried Cell-tech and it was probably the best tasting but Whey protein is what I used more than anything.
Man... makes me wanna watch Pumping Iron now!
Have pics from back in the day?
As a premed student who finished his bio series, whey protein is essentially worthless when digested, but hypothetically if you drink it, it might work but a balanced diet is the best way to go honestlychances are these guys who are BEEFCAKING are eating way more protein than they need and it will be worthless regardless of when or how they intake.
As a premed student who finished his bio series, whey protein is essentially worthless when digested, but hypothetically if you drink it, it might work but a balanced diet is the best way to go honestlychances are these guys who are BEEFCAKING are eating way more protein than they need and it will be worthless regardless of when or how they intake.
also, you don't know this YET but you own a BOSTMOBILE
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As a premed student who finished his bio series, whey protein is essentially worthless when digested, but hypothetically if you drink it, it might work but a balanced diet is the best way to go honestlychances are these guys who are BEEFCAKING are eating way more protein than they need and it will be worthless regardless of when or how they intake.
also, you don't know this YET but you own a BOSTMOBILE
YAAAAAAAA dad ad addad ada da da BOST MOBILE!!
As a premed student who finished his bio series, whey protein is essentially worthless when digested, but hypothetically if you drink it, it might work but a balanced diet is the best way to go honestlychances are these guys who are BEEFCAKING are eating way more protein than they need and it will be worthless regardless of when or how they intake.
also, you don't know this YET but you own a BOSTMOBILE
YAAAAAAAA dad ad addad ada da da BOST MOBILE!!
I didn't choose the bost, the bost mobile chose me
Normal rule of thumb for muscle building is 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight.Not meaning to single anyone out for saying this, as a few people have mentioned it now, but again this is misguided BS. Everyone makes this claim, but if you ask them where the got it from, or what actual evidence there is for it they come up empty. It's just an ancient, baseless generalisation. As if you could come up with a formula as basic as that and it would apply equally to everyone, regardless of age, metabolism, natural/steroids, build, goals (since it seems to be applied to anyone remotely interested in adding any amount of muscle), training intensity/frequency, lifestyle, etc. etc. It's just complete and utter BS, and I really hope anyone reading this thread doesn't see that and believe it/repeat it/continue the cycle of ignorance.
Normal rule of thumb for muscle building is 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight.Not meaning to single anyone out for saying this, as a few people have mentioned it now, but again this is misguided BS. Everyone makes this claim, but if you ask them where the got it from, or what actual evidence there is for it they come up empty. It's just an ancient, baseless generalisation. As if you could come up with a formula as basic as that and it would apply equally to everyone, regardless of age, metabolism, natural/steroids, build, goals (since it seems to be applied to anyone remotely interested in adding any amount of muscle), training intensity/frequency, lifestyle, etc. etc. It's just complete and utter BS, and I really hope anyone reading this thread doesn't see that and believe it/repeat it/continue the cycle of ignorance.
25% is quite a bit off, it just sounds small when we're talking about per gram, rather than you're overall intake. Also, people are too lazy to be precise and so round up to one gram per pound even though it's inaccurate. That's partially where the myth comes from. Generally studies have shown there's no recorded benefit after 0.6g per pound, with some studies with experienced bodybuilders (who have more efficient nitrogen utilisation) showing no benefit over around 0.3-0.4g per pound.
The main point to take from all of this though, including what seemed to be the main thrust of the article you linked, is that concerning yourself over "gram per pound" figures is silly and pointless. Basically everyone, especially people on a western diet are going to be getting more than adequate amounts of protein, and supplementing with even more is a waste of time and money.
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After years of lifting I have found that most supplements are just a gimmick. Unless it changes your hormones somehow you probably will not get anywhere near the amount of 'results' as the container claims you will. I'd eat the chicken.
K
You can't say these things for sure...
the timeframe of these events make it very difficult to test.
I'm surprised the military doesn't have more research on this.
Or they probably do but didn't bother to share it with us, because they would want exclusive super soldiers.
After years of lifting I have found that most supplements are just a gimmick. Unless it changes your hormones somehow you probably will not get anywhere near the amount of 'results' as the container claims you will. I'd eat the chicken.
yea,, I can't wait until they make that myo-something something blocker thing work right.. currently it gives you cancer and brain tumors..
But yea, when they get that up and running.. w00t..
After years of lifting I have found that most supplements are just a gimmick. Unless it changes your hormones somehow you probably will not get anywhere near the amount of 'results' as the container claims you will. I'd eat the chicken.
yea,, I can't wait until they make that myo-something something blocker thing work right.. currently it gives you cancer and brain tumors..
But yea, when they get that up and running.. w00t..
Could always go the HGH route. :D Look at Stallone and them ;)
After years of lifting I have found that most supplements are just a gimmick. Unless it changes your hormones somehow you probably will not get anywhere near the amount of 'results' as the container claims you will. I'd eat the chicken.
yea,, I can't wait until they make that myo-something something blocker thing work right.. currently it gives you cancer and brain tumors..
But yea, when they get that up and running.. w00t..
Could always go the HGH route. :D Look at Stallone and them ;)
roid gut is disgusting though... ugh........Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/afd371da.gif)