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Title: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 30 August 2013, 14:00:21
Folks,

It turns out that I live within 20 minutes of edsyn. Would people be interested in ordering their products through the geekhackers store at slightly lower prices and shipping costs then the edsyn online store?

-Ming
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: lcs on Fri, 30 August 2013, 14:00:49
Yes!

EDIT: Was yelling with the GF :P
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 30 August 2013, 14:12:21
I would this would be an obvious yes!
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: divito on Fri, 30 August 2013, 14:43:21
Edsyn is a soldering products company in case anyone who visits this thread is new like me.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 30 August 2013, 14:47:13
Can we get a Soldapullt with Geekhack branding??
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: JPG on Fri, 30 August 2013, 14:48:40
I am down for 1!
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 30 August 2013, 15:01:48
Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 30 August 2013, 14:47:13
Can we get a Soldapullt with Geekhack branding??

I'd be fine even with just an orange and black one!
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 30 August 2013, 15:50:42
Save money, why not.

Rhetorical question kawa.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 30 August 2013, 16:03:24
Yes, please. It's about time I get my soldering gear in place...
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 30 August 2013, 16:04:10
yes, i need more o-rings and tips

Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 30 August 2013, 14:47:13
Can we get a Soldapullt with Geekhack branding??

yes please
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 30 August 2013, 16:34:17
i can ask, but we're probably just going to have to produce our own stickers to put on them. they're not set up for OEM production.

one thing i did learn is how to test your soldapullt for good function

1) cock the plunger
2) block the intake (bottom) nozzle with your finger TIGHTLY
3) hit the plunger release button without unblocking the nozzle.

the soldapullt should completely hold vacuum for about 1-2 seconds and then slowly release. i suspect we can improve this actually by lubing the o-rings with krytox VPF. (that is, improve the vacuum holding time).
you can tell whether your piston is holding vacuum by watching the steel rod that lives inside the plunger spring. that should not move from full engaged for 1-2s and then it should slowly rise.

if your soldapullt cannot hold vacuum for 1-2s, then you need a rebuilt kit. they are simple to install and cheap and if i stock the soldapullts, i will also stock the rebuild kits.

another plus is that IF there's enough demand, i should be able to beat edsyn's pricing with no minimum order price and significantly cheaper international shipping (since they only ship UPS). further, you'll be able to combine your soldapullt order with krytox, usb multimode adapters and anything else i end up stocking.

PLEASE speak up if you would be interested in this, especially if you're international, as that's a big market that edsyn itself is having trouble breaking into because of their small size and how prolific the crappy fakes are.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 30 August 2013, 16:43:16
Did you ask about different, GH themed colored bodies? I don't need another one, but I would for sure buy a gray/black and orange one!
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 30 August 2013, 16:54:34
i will ask when i make contact with their primary salesperson next week. i suspect we will need to show some volume to get them to do this though. blue and gold is _their_ historical brand's color and they're (rightfully) quite proud of it :)
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: gnubag on Fri, 30 August 2013, 16:59:32
mainly interested in tips but if there would be cheap deals on a original solderpult I would get one more.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 30 August 2013, 17:01:32
define cheap deal

rebuild kits are incredibly easy for me to stock. i can do that no problem. each one comes with a tip, tip holder and pre-lubricated o-ring. i don't believe the spring is included as it's not load bearing but i'll have to double check that. that said, there are a lot of 10 year old soldapullts out there that probably aren't pulling optimum vacuum but could for like < 5$
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: MJ45 on Fri, 30 August 2013, 18:58:53
I'm definitely interested.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 30 August 2013, 19:04:03
Yup I'm in. I'd take rebuild kits, Soldapults (ESPECIALLY GH COLORED ONES), and wick.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Fri, 30 August 2013, 19:07:50
wonder how much for the DS017?
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: germy on Fri, 30 August 2013, 19:36:28
I am from Singapore and VERY interested in this!
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: Jrwestcoast on Fri, 30 August 2013, 20:37:08
I am interested
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 30 August 2013, 22:29:37
MOQ for custom colored soldapullts is probably somewhere in the range of 1000.
Quote from: bazemk1979 on Fri, 30 August 2013, 19:07:50
wonder how much for the DS017?
it is a function of quantity

Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: MJ45 on Sat, 31 August 2013, 08:27:58
The Edsyn AS196 SilverStat is the one to get it is a little big but has the best suction. They also have a gold anniversary model AS196-G.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 31 August 2013, 09:27:42
the gold and silvers are the same piston size as the standard ds107. they might keep a slightly better seal because of the metal barrel, but the difference is marginal at best. the metallic barrel is used for conductivity -- the silver and gold are ESD safe. but barrel dimensions and piston travel completely determine the vacuum generated by the piston, and they are the same dimensionally as the ds017
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: Glissant on Sat, 31 August 2013, 10:00:22
I see no drawback with you stocking Edsyn products, and I would use that service if it becomes available.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 31 August 2013, 10:11:05
here's an example of an o-ring that desperately needs replacement ;)

the insane thing is this sucker literally just kept on keeping on despite looking like this. HAH!

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24794081/2013-08-31%2008.04.41.jpg)

but seriously, i want to make the real deal available to internationals as well as people who are looking at knock-off products for cost reasons if at all possible.

Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 31 August 2013, 14:09:29
Quote from: mkawa on Sat, 31 August 2013, 10:11:05
here's an example of an o-ring that desperately needs replacement ;)

the insane thing is this sucker literally just kept on keeping on despite looking like this. HAH!

Show Image
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24794081/2013-08-31%2008.04.41.jpg)


but seriously, i want to make the real deal available to internationals as well as people who are looking at knock-off products for cost reasons if at all possible.

kawa, you think so much for us. Thank you  :-*
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: JonasDK on Sun, 01 September 2013, 06:52:14
Maybe interested
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: damorgue on Sun, 01 September 2013, 06:55:39
While you are at it, could we get some Kester 44 as well? It is ge getting hard to find it in EU for reasonable prices nowdays.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 01 September 2013, 08:49:49
kester 44 is ezpz. i'll most likely buy huge spools and re-spool though, if that's ok with you guys. 1lb of solder is more than anyone's going to use in their lifetime AND it's expensive to ship.

i have a very cool idea i ran by my edsyn POC that could get us geekhack branded soldapullts. they would be based on the as196 rather than the ds017 though.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 September 2013, 08:56:41
Yes, please. If we can get smaller amounts of Kester 44 on spools, I would definitely buy.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 01 September 2013, 09:06:57
I think I need some o-ring grease and maybe a replacement o-ring for my Soldapullt.  I got it used and old, and while it cleaned up really well, it doesn't hold vacuum well anymore.  At least when I tried to use it for desoldering, it was not very useful, and I had to revert back to a RS desoldering iron.

Small amounts of Kester 44 sound really good too!
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mashby on Sun, 01 September 2013, 09:41:42
I'm definitely interested in pretty much every suggestion that's been made.  :))
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 01 September 2013, 21:13:44
The GH vennding store is looking very good,  specially for those of us who are not in the states.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 01 September 2013, 21:17:54
interesting, i need some soldaplut
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: JPG on Sun, 01 September 2013, 21:45:41
Yep, solda + kester ftw!

Thx Kawa!
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: audukent on Mon, 02 September 2013, 23:14:47
Interested
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 03 September 2013, 00:23:21
Ming, do you even need to ask this question?  I think it's a pretty solid yes.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:19:38
edsyn sells some BOSS flush cutters by the way. wiha germany quality or beyond at at about 2/3 the price. A+ will buy again
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:23:48
also, if you want this to happen PLEASE BUY MORE KRYTOX

seriously, geekhackers has so much money tied up in krytox that it's both hilarious and depressing
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:35:02
also i have a SECRET PROJECT that i don't want to reveal until it's done ;)

we have another stock item coming that will be extremely cool, but lead time is going to be a couple weeks min (hopefully shorter).
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: lcs on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:36:04
stupid question: is there a url for this store?
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:37:32
Quote from: lcs on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:36:04
stupid question: is there a url for this store?

Not a stupid question. There has been mention of a geekhackers.org, but nothing happens. Perhaps it's a plan for the future?
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: lcs on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:39:31
Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:37:32
Quote from: lcs on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:36:04
stupid question: is there a url for this store?

Not a stupid question. There has been mention of a geekhackers.org, but nothing happens. Perhaps it's a plan for the future?

Yeah, I tried that but it didn't respond. Hope so!
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: Tarzan on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:40:02
Interested?  Yes.

And thanks for the reminder, I will buy some key-lube this week.

Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:43:53
What kind of Krytox is it? Has it been used inside keyswitches before? I think the missing piece here is marketing.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:46:24
oh, the store is shockingly close to ready. i had to take some product shots and make some artwork but i did that this weekend, and then a tiny bit of code needs to be written so that there's a proper shopping cart. in the meantime, all the products i've been advertising are in final form and can be ordered via PM. ironically, i've spent so much time prepping packs and filling orders that i wasn't able to get around to the store art assets until this weekend. we're also waiting for the production server to go up; the person who is doing that is slammed right now, and i just accidentally referred a huge account to him (oops) that is only going to slam him harder.

in short, just pm me if you need something.

i'm a computer scientist i have no idea what marketing is or even what the word means ;)
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:47:13
Maybe all of the geekhackers stuff should be separated into it's own subforum? Looks like things are going to be moving along, so might as well start building some organization for it early.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:47:40
fun fact: i broke the plunger on the krytoxapullt so one of the things i did last week was machine a new one out of bulk ptfe. that was fun :D
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:48:29
oh right, we were supposed to talk about whether i should start a forum for it last weekend. oops. forgot.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 13 September 2013, 18:11:44
edsyn distribution is happening, and it will be better than you ever imagined in your wildest dreams.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mashby on Fri, 13 September 2013, 18:16:28
Quote from: mkawa on Fri, 13 September 2013, 18:11:44
edsyn distribution is happening, and it will be better than you ever imagined in your wildest dreams.

Personally delivered by you in the mkawa-mobile?

Are you reading my dream journal again?
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 13 September 2013, 18:20:04
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 September 2013, 18:33:36
Now i gotta find something to desolder
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 13 September 2013, 22:16:25
Can't wait to see an announcement.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 13 September 2013, 22:47:02
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 September 2013, 18:33:36
Now i gotta find something to desolder

Find some WYSE boards on eBay!
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 September 2013, 22:49:32
Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 13 September 2013, 22:47:02
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 September 2013, 18:33:36
Now i gotta find something to desolder

Find some WYSE boards on eBay!

any pointers, I'm always afraid I'll end up with a bunch of rubber domes :eek:
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: UniClown on Fri, 13 September 2013, 23:01:13
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 September 2013, 22:49:32
Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 13 September 2013, 22:47:02
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 September 2013, 18:33:36
Now i gotta find something to desolder

Find some WYSE boards on eBay!

any pointers, I'm always afraid I'll end up with a bunch of rubber domes :eek:

Try this (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=wyse+keyboard&_osacat=0&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC1.A0.Xwyse+pce&_nkw=wyse+pce&_sacat=0&_from=R40).
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 13 September 2013, 23:01:19
just builds tons of crap and make huge amounts of mistakes like the rest of us ;D
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: TLSC.wipeOut on Sun, 15 September 2013, 13:36:16
defnitely interested in a soldapullt and possibly my first soldering station!
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: JonasDK on Mon, 16 September 2013, 12:58:02
Is this still active?
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:07:16
Quote from: JonasDK on Mon, 16 September 2013, 12:58:02
Is this still active?

mkawa is still in discussion with edsyn, over what possibilities are available for a custom order for GH.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:30:00
the order was verbally made on friday. there are some docs that need to be done, and i need to convince my POC that my crazy new product idea is going to work. HAH!

anyway yah, we will be stocking edsyn products. they are awesome and understand our mission perfectly. i see many great things in the future.
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: TLSC.wipeOut on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:54:32
Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:30:00
the order was verbally made on friday. there are some docs that need to be done, and i need to convince my POC that my crazy new product idea is going to work. HAH!

anyway yah, we will be stocking edsyn products. they are awesome and understand our mission perfectly. i see many great things in the future.

congrats on making this happen! very excited for things to come =D
Title: Re: geekhackers vending possibility: edsyn products (soldapullt people)
Post by: longweight on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:55:31
So roughly how much are they?