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Title: [UPDATED] Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: limao388 on Sun, 01 September 2013, 18:57:57
I'm sorry if tis is te wron place to ask tis and if some letters are missin in te text, I'm usin a really old keyboard tat doesnt work properly.

I saw a tread on tis  few minutes ao and I just wanted to ask ow exacly I use distilled water to rinse te keyboard.

I saw tis as well http://imgur.com/a/9sHx7

Wat appened:

I spilled cocolate milk over my razer blackwidow ultimate, turned it over imediately and waited a bit. Took off te caps and tried to plu in and test... Didnt work altou te leds were dim but workin. Tis all appened in around 10 mins.

Its been some ours of researcin now and I tout of askin you uys, te specialists.

Tis text looks funny because of te missin letters, srry about tat.

Do I still ave a cance? I feel really bad because I bout tis in te USA in my trip tere barely a mont back and it costs double te price ere in brazil so yea...
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 September 2013, 19:04:48
That's good news.

Now you can safely get a new keyboard without feeling guilty about it.

Congratulations.

Seriously, Don't bother fixing it.. Time to get an Ergodox.

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Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: PepperPanda on Sun, 01 September 2013, 19:05:36
I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this and if some letters are missing in the text, I'm using a really old keyboard that doesn't work properly.

I saw a thread on this  few minutes ago and I just wanted to ask how do you use distilled water to rinse the keyboard.

I saw this as well http://imgur.com/a/9sHx7

What happened:

I spilled chocolate milk over my razer blackwidow ultimate, turned it over immediately and waited a bit. Took off the caps and tried to plug it in and test... Didn't work although the leds were dim but working. This all happened in around 10 mins.

for easy reading
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: JPG on Sun, 01 September 2013, 19:07:29
For once I almost agree with TP4. Time to get a new one (but no need for an ergodox specifically).
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 01 September 2013, 19:08:41
What are the chances that the "G" and "H" keys would stop working on your old keyboard, but everything else seems fine ;)  /conspiracy theories.
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: limao388 on Sun, 01 September 2013, 19:21:15
That's good news.

Now you can safely get a new keyboard without feeling guilty about it.

Congratulations.

Seriously, Don't bother fixing it.. Time to get an Ergodox.

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ow can I not feel guilty
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: limao388 on Sun, 01 September 2013, 19:24:50
What are the chances that the "G" and "H" keys would stop working on your old keyboard, but everything else seems fine ;)  /conspiracy theories.

It is not te same keyboard, just an old one
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 01 September 2013, 19:26:34
I said "old keyboard" :)
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: limao388 on Sun, 01 September 2013, 19:34:00
I said "old keyboard" :)


Damn, my bad, just read it aain. Its weird indeed but I want my mecanical T-T

I'm so stupid
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: GeeGee on Sun, 01 September 2013, 19:34:09
That's good news.

Now you can safely get a new keyboard without feeling guilty about it.

Congratulations.

Seriously, Don't bother fixing it.. Time to get an Ergodox.

Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/014.gif)

This is the best adivce anyone can give you in this situation :D .
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 01 September 2013, 19:39:19
Black Widows have a bad reputation here for being overpriced for what they are.  I imagine you could try pouring some high % alcohol into the switches (96%+) or squirting some high quality contact cleaner and waiting for a long time for the switches to dry.  But at worst (and likely), you may need to desolder the switches, disassemble, clean, reassemble, resolder.  And it might be better to just get a cheap CM QFR :)
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: limao388 on Sun, 01 September 2013, 20:02:33
Black Widows have a bad reputation here for being overpriced for what they are.  I imagine you could try pouring some high % alcohol into the switches (96%+) or squirting some high quality contact cleaner and waiting for a long time for the switches to dry.  But at worst (and likely), you may need to desolder the switches, disassemble, clean, reassemble, resolder.  And it might be better to just get a cheap CM QFR :)

But any mecanical keyboard in brazil is expensive as ****. I don't tink it would be possible to sip one because taxes are too expensive as well...
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: vun on Sun, 01 September 2013, 20:04:49
A friend of mine spilled something on his blackwidow, I told him to put it in a bag of rice and that saved his.

If you want to try and save your current keyboard then I suppose you could just pour distilled water all over it and then submerge it in rice or some other absorbing material.
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 01 September 2013, 20:07:04
Hrm, we have some Brazilians here--hopefully they will see this thread and can weigh in on some keyboard recommendations if needed.
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: limao388 on Sun, 01 September 2013, 20:35:58
I love you uys, tanks for everytin
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: AndyCapets on Mon, 02 September 2013, 16:38:05
Sorry but I have to agree with tp4.
Had one, broke after two months when I brought it to a lan, bought a CM Storm, didn't break after 5 lans, that's a good sign...
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: wetto on Mon, 02 September 2013, 16:44:32
Hrm, we have some Brazilians here--hopefully they will see this thread and can weigh in on some keyboard recommendations if needed.

Hahahahaha... There are Rapids over here and they cost less than a Blackwidow, though unfortunately they're only available in MX Black...

But there is an imported Cherry MX Blue ANSI Rapid here: (R$ 325, around US$ 140 and that's normal here)
https://www.hardstore.com.br/?view=detalhe.produto&c_produto=8598

Anyways, as most people already said, you can try using high percentage alcohol into the switch, use a needle to apply directly into it. If you require further assistance, please, visit the Brazilian Portuguese Mechanical Keyboard Guide as well and we'll try to help as much as we can.
http://adrenaline.uol.com.br/forum/hardwares-em-geral/469471-guia-do-teclado-mecanico-v2-pergunte-aqui-antes-de-criar-um-novo-topico-3g-warning-121.html
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: abdulmuhsee on Mon, 02 September 2013, 17:47:48
ow can I not feel guilty

He's saying that most people here purchase new keyboards when they don't need them, but you most definitely need one after the chocolate milk fiasco.  Therefore, you can shot to your heart's desire, knowing that you are not unnecessarily wasting money :-).

If it doesn't work after drying out, then I would venture to say it's done for :-(.
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 02 September 2013, 17:58:30
ow can I not feel guilty

He's saying that most people here purchase new keyboards when they don't need them, but you most definitely need one after the chocolate milk fiasco.  Therefore, you can shot to your heart's desire, knowing that you are not unnecessarily wasting money :-).

If it doesn't work after drying out, then I would venture to say it's done for :-(.

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Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 02 September 2013, 20:55:00
The thing is, even if you managed to clean it and dry it up, it won't function as well. I am sure some LED light would be broken or some keys would not registered. It's a pain, I know.. and I feel for you. But I think there's not much you can do.

Having said that, this thread does give some cleaning guides: http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide

So what I don't understand is, if it is possible to clean, why can't he?
Unless the guide is for mechanical keyboard without LED microchips and what not. I guess if it is purely mechanical and there are no microelectronics, cleaning is highly possible.
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 02 September 2013, 21:25:01
The thing is, even if you managed to clean it and dry it up, it won't function as well. I am sure some LED light would be broken or some keys would not registered. It's a pain, I know.. and I feel for you. But I think there's not much you can do.

Having said that, this thread does give some cleaning guides: http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide

So what I don't understand is, if it is possible to clean, why can't he?
Unless the guide is for mechanical keyboard without LED microchips and what not. I guess if it is purely mechanical and there are no microelectronics, cleaning is highly possible.


or lets go further..

Even if you poured unicorn dust and it reverted to brand new conditions.. it's STILL a BLACKWIDOW.. Therefore it sux, and isn't worth using...

So... You STILL need to buy a new keyboard...


Therefore:::::::::::  ErgoDOX (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_101_.gif)
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 02 September 2013, 21:53:28
Is BlackWidow that bad or just a prejudice against Razer's marketing? The 2013 version spec looks attractive.
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 02 September 2013, 21:59:13
Is BlackWidow that bad or just a prejudice against Razer's marketing? The 2013 version spec looks attractive.

They really are "that bad"  quality has been, and continues to be atrocious.

Their marketing has been their most successful play.
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: Defying on Mon, 02 September 2013, 22:10:44
Ehh.

You might have made a mistake by plugging it in within 10 minutes.. I'd say the minimum time to wait would be 24-48 hours. That's how I broke my first mechanical keyboard (BlackWidow Ultimate).
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 03 September 2013, 01:46:20
What did you do? Thrash it? I can't imagine how anyone can type broke a keyboard.
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: wetto on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:27:06
Is BlackWidow that bad or just a prejudice against Razer's marketing? The 2013 version spec looks attractive.

They really are "that bad"  quality has been, and continues to be atrocious.

Their marketing has been their most successful play.

Actually... While the quality on the older models really is AWFUL and on both new and old the keycaps are terrible, the PCB and soldering all looks pretty damn nice on the newer models, especially on the Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition:

(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/8990/dsc02343xl.jpg)

Hell, the soldering looks even nicer than on my Costar keyboards. The OEM for the BW 2013, BWU 2013 and TE models isn't the same as the older models, but the same OEM as on CM Quick Fire TK and Logitech G710+.

But since his model IS the old 2009 model made by iOne, which is also the only mechanical gaming keyboard with 2KRO, might as well trash it, as you guys are saying...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:34:10
So I take it that BWU 2013 has improved in terms of quality, except maybe needing a better key caps.

I asked because we don't have much choice in Malaysia on mechanical. Razer is everywhere on the shelf. We can get SteelSeries v6 in certain stores. It's limited. The other brand that are available are Filco. The rest, we have to import. So I gravitate towards BWU 2013.
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: wetto on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:42:08
So I take it that BWU 2013 has improved in terms of quality, except maybe needing a better key caps.

I asked because we don't have much choice in Malaysia on mechanical. Razer is everywhere on the shelf. We can get SteelSeries v6 in certain stores. It's limited. The other brand that are available are Filco. The rest, we have to import. So I gravitate towards BWU 2013.

The thing is, on contrary to popular belief backlit keyboards are NOT better when it comes to quality, compared to non-backlit keyboards.

If the FILCO costs the same as the BWU, even still get the FILCO, it's a far better keyboard due to its better keycaps and stabilizers (and that, my friend, influences typing and gaming more than you think it does).
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: tricheboars on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:00:44
soak in isopropyl alcohol. let dry for 3 days.
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: mauri on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:03:56
Ehh.

You might have made a mistake by plugging it in within 10 minutes.. I'd say the minimum time to wait would be 24-48 hours. That's how I broke my first mechanical keyboard (BlackWidow Ultimate).

This, my blackwidow would only spam v and open apps after spilling coke on it, let it sit for a good 24-48 hours and try again
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: ynrozturk on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:26:32
I have the Tournament Edition and it's built like a tank. It's pretty comfortable as well.
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: tricheboars on Tue, 03 September 2013, 12:06:02
you guys gotta clean off those salts and minerals that are left behind after spills. that is where the alcohol comes in. the only downside is everytime you do a alcohol wash you risk washing out switch lube.
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: limao388 on Tue, 03 September 2013, 13:32:22
Ok uys, ood news. Te keyboard is workin!!! But still some keys are sticky and ard to press. SoI need to clean it! I don't ave contact cleaners nor isopropyl, te ripster uide says it is fine to use ot water. Is it really?
Title: Re: Spilled liquid on my Blackwidow.
Post by: limao388 on Tue, 03 September 2013, 13:45:42
te keyboard is workin fine actually, I spammed te keys and tey unstuck temselves. So, my question is: Eeverytin is definetly dryed up, can I use it like tat or do I really need to clean te switces because it mit still enerate some sort circuits tat could end up ****in te eletronic part?