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geekhack Community => Keyboard Keycaps => Topic started by: nourathar on Tue, 03 September 2013, 06:50:19

Title: Ruby supersystem keycaps cherry compatible ?
Post by: nourathar on Tue, 03 September 2013, 06:50:19
Hi,

I came across this page on the Signature Plastics site and I'm especially interested in their relegendable keycaps.
http://keycapsdirect.com/ruby.php
They are for the Ruby Supersystem, which apparently is mostly used in US gas stations.

Does anybody know whether these keycaps are Cherry MX compatible ?

I found this image of the Ruby switches:

(http://i43.tinypic.com/2s13le8.jpg)

They look very different from cherry switches ofcourse, but they do have a cross in the center so perhaps it still works ?
What kind of mount is this ?

ciao,

J.
Title: Re: Ruby supersystem keycaps cherry compatible ?
Post by: AGmurdercore on Tue, 03 September 2013, 07:12:07
From this picture it looks like the keys should be compatible, but i really can't say more. If there is somebody with exp let him say for sure :)
Title: Re: Ruby supersystem keycaps cherry compatible ?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 September 2013, 08:18:54
Yes those will fit. Looks like MY switches but Halverson and I were sorting some of those caps from his crap bag and they'll fit MX switches.
Title: Re: Ruby supersystem keycaps cherry compatible ?
Post by: nourathar on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:59:26
ah cool, looking forward to
(http://keycapsdirect.com/images/Ruby/fuel.jpg)
(http://keycapsdirect.com/images/Ruby/approve.jpg)
(http://keycapsdirect.com/images/Ruby/STOP.jpg)
as legends on a keyboard.. ;) ;D :)) ;D ;)
Title: Re: Ruby supersystem keycaps cherry compatible ?
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 03 September 2013, 10:02:06
Anything bigger than a 1x cap might not work for you. Most normal 2x caps use a stabilizer, thus they have three inserts (one in the middle for the switch, and two outside of the middle for the stabilizer inserts).

POS 2x caps aren't made the same way. Most POS boards are a matrix of 1x switches (just like the picture you show in the OP). Caps that take up more than 1x are usually made to go over multiple switches, so caps like the ones you show pictures of will have two stems (one for each switch). Thus, the spacing is off, and they won't fit.
Title: Re: Ruby supersystem keycaps cherry compatible ?
Post by: nourathar on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:37:06
Hi esoomenona,

thanks  for the explanation, but yes, I am aware that these will not work as modifiers on a normal keyboard.
I am mainly looking for 1x1 relegendables to fit a Tipro POS board, and it would be nice if these 2x1 keys will fit too...

ciao,

J.
Title: Re: Ruby supersystem keycaps cherry compatible ?
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 03 September 2013, 12:08:11
Ah, I see. In that case, I don't think you'll have any problems.
Title: Re: Ruby supersystem keycaps cherry compatible ?
Post by: Melvang on Fri, 27 September 2013, 11:43:25
So these 2x keys use 2 switches instead of one switch and a modifier then.  Any idea on the spacing between 2 stems on the caps?  It is for a custom project so the locations can be moved around to accomodate.
Title: Re: Ruby supersystem keycaps cherry compatible ?
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 27 September 2013, 11:44:08
Take two caps off of your Cherry MX keyboard and measure the distance between the two.
Title: Re: Ruby supersystem keycaps cherry compatible ?
Post by: Melvang on Fri, 27 September 2013, 11:45:39
Gotcha I just wasn't sure if they moved the stems on the caps around a bit to intentionally make them non compatible.
Title: Re: Ruby supersystem keycaps cherry compatible ?
Post by: dragon788 on Sat, 05 September 2015, 10:44:06
Apologies for the thread necro, but I had the same idea and asked them via their Facebook page and this is the response I got. Exactly in line with what was discussed above.

Myself:
is the keyset for the Ruby Super system all Cherry MX compatible?
PMK:
Yes, the Ruby system is compatible with MX switches, however since it is a POS system, the 2 space keys have only 2 posts, not 3.
Title: Re: Ruby supersystem keycaps cherry compatible ?
Post by: TopreFan333 on Wed, 16 September 2015, 16:17:34
ah cool, looking forward to
Show Image
(http://keycapsdirect.com/images/Ruby/fuel.jpg)

Show Image
(http://keycapsdirect.com/images/Ruby/approve.jpg)

Show Image
(http://keycapsdirect.com/images/Ruby/STOP.jpg)

as legends on a keyboard.. ;) ;D :)) ;D ;)

Nice -- what are you gonna map them to? I use the "Pause" button on my keyboard to mute notifications.
Title: Re: Ruby supersystem keycaps cherry compatible ?
Post by: saturnotaku on Wed, 16 September 2015, 16:36:03
Nice -- what are you gonna map them to? I use the "Pause" button on my keyboard to mute notifications.

That post you quoted was from 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Ruby supersystem keycaps cherry compatible ?
Post by: TopreFan333 on Wed, 16 September 2015, 18:00:40
Nice -- what are you gonna map them to? I use the "Pause" button on my keyboard to mute notifications.

That post you quoted was from 2 years ago.

Oops, oh well.