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geekhack Projects => Making Stuff Together! => Topic started by: dante on Tue, 03 September 2013, 10:59:43

Title: Has anyone tried making a Phantom without a plate?
Post by: dante on Tue, 03 September 2013, 10:59:43
Basically making it feel like a Cherry board.  The biggest fear is having it bend in the middle like a Poker - but the 11900 doesn't do that.
Title: Re: Has anyone tried making a Phantom without a plate?
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:09:18
Basically making it feel like a Cherry board.  The biggest fear is having it bend in the middle like a Poker - but the 11900 doesn't do that.

The Phantom PCB doesn't have holes for PCB mount switches. :(
Title: Re: Has anyone tried making a Phantom without a plate?
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:09:30
The only way you could is if you drilled holes for PCB mount stabilizers since it currently doesn't support them.

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Title: Re: Has anyone tried making a Phantom without a plate?
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:24:19
The 7bit layout doesn't use stabilizers, as far as I'm aware. Thus, you could set that up without a plate.
Title: Re: Has anyone tried making a Phantom without a plate?
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:26:22
I don't think this would be too hard. I'm actually considering making holes for PCB stabs on my phantom since they're so much nicer than plate moun.
Title: Re: Has anyone tried making a Phantom without a plate?
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:27:56
I don't think this would be too hard. I'm actually considering making holes for PCB stabs on my phantom since they're so much nicer than plate moun.

You might run into issues if you drill through any connections in the PCB since I think the Phantom is multi layered (I could be wrong)
Title: Re: Has anyone tried making a Phantom without a plate?
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:31:18
Dual layered, IIRC.
Title: Re: Has anyone tried making a Phantom without a plate?
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:36:53
I think maybe you guys missed this:

The Phantom PCB doesn't have holes for PCB mount switches. :(

Title: Re: Has anyone tried making a Phantom without a plate?
Post by: dante on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:39:27
well that sucks ... ok  :(

I'm going to stick with the GH60 then since that allows PCB only.
Title: Re: Has anyone tried making a Phantom without a plate?
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:41:16
well that sucks ... ok  :(

I'm going to stick with the GH60 then since that allows PCB only.

The Gh60 should support all stabilizers if you get the right plate. I think it's only the universal plate that only allows PCB mount stabilizers
Title: Re: Has anyone tried making a Phantom without a plate?
Post by: dante on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:45:20
well that sucks ... ok  :(

I'm going to stick with the GH60 then since that allows PCB only.

The Gh60 should support all stabilizers if you get the right plate. I think it's only the universal plate that only allows PCB mount stabilizers

You are confusing me...  What I'm trying to reproduce is the experience of typing on a Poker and as far as I know that doesn't have a plate.  So why would you need a one for PCB stabilizers?  What I'm after is a softer typing experience that may also be easier on the hands.
Title: Re: Has anyone tried making a Phantom without a plate?
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:48:57
well that sucks ... ok  :(

I'm going to stick with the GH60 then since that allows PCB only.

The Gh60 should support all stabilizers if you get the right plate. I think it's only the universal plate that only allows PCB mount stabilizers

You are confusing me...  What I'm trying to reproduce is the experience of typing on a Poker and as far as I know that doesn't have a plate.  So why would you need a one for PCB stabilizers?  What I'm after is a softer typing experience that may also be easier on the hands.

If you're not using a plate, it supports PCB mount cherries.


The quote I quoted made it seems like it only supported PCB mount, when really, with the right plate, it supports all 3 stabilizers types
Title: Re: Has anyone tried making a Phantom without a plate?
Post by: Findecanor on Wed, 04 September 2013, 10:00:40
Each switch on the Phantom will be connected to the PCB at only two points: the two switch pins.
The biggest reason for using a plate is to prevent the switches from being rotated, and thus damage the soldering of the switch pins.

So, technically, you could make a plate from 1.5mm acrylic, and it would work fine for the switches. The stabilisers may need a more durable plate, though.