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geekhack Marketplace => Great Finds => Topic started by: xmagusx on Tue, 10 September 2013, 18:31:06

Title: A couple Model Ms (52G9658 and 82G2383) $37 shipped
Post by: xmagusx on Tue, 10 September 2013, 18:31:06

For anyone in want of a buckling spring board at a reasonable price:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-82G2383-CLICKY-KEYBOARD-used-0654811-/141058317608

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-52G9658-CLICKY-KEYBOARD-used-5102521-/141058282053

Title: Re: A couple Model Ms (52G9658 and 82G2383) $37 shipped
Post by: Mike48 on Tue, 10 September 2013, 19:51:01

Yeah, but that seller (Brian O'Neil) blocked me from buying any of his keyboards. Seems he took offense because of some eBay messages I sent him a while back, concerning some listing-policy violations and confusing descriptions of his. Some just don't like to play by the rules and become angry when called on it...
BTW, this is a seller who thinks a proper way to fix broken rivets on a Model M is to GLUE them back on -- LOL! Buyer beware -- how many of the rivets on these have been simply glued back on?

Title: Re: A couple Model Ms (52G9658 and 82G2383) $37 shipped
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 12 September 2013, 12:40:22

You say "glue" but, if he is using epoxy, it may bond so well that if you ever tried to open it up to do a proper bolt mod, you would break the barrel plate trying to get it apart.

Clearly he does not understand the assembly and the need for even tensioning, or doesn't care.

But, hopefully, anybody who is doing a bolt-mod is looking for a better project base than a 52G or 82G and will not buy these anyway.

Title: Re: A couple Model Ms (52G9658 and 82G2383) $37 shipped
Post by: Mike48 on Thu, 12 September 2013, 19:23:47

Hi fohat.digs,

Don't get me started on the supposed strength of epoxy bonds, as the strength of the bond is so very dependent on surface prep, actual materials to be bonded, proper mixing of the 2-part formula if used, proper clamping of the parts (difficult at best due to the curvature of the backplate and general construction of the M), curing time and temp, etc. etc. etc.....

My personal motto about glue -- actually just made up specially for this occasion:
"If you don't value it, glue it, otherwise just screw it!"  ;)

I think we both agree that a proper bolt-mod is vastly preferable to an epoxy mod, especially if you need to open things up again later for any reason. I've got some 52G and 82G M's and have bolt-modded a couple of each; actually they're not too bad, but I agree that the older and heavier M's are more desirable and more worthy of the effort.