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Title: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 11 September 2013, 16:16:37
Hi guys again with this whole internet thing for me I'm wanting a PCB mounted board now. I heard you can change the stems and springs with out having to desolder and resolder, which is a huge plus for me. I don't really care for backlighting since I will be buying blank keycaps.
I kind of want NKRO if a such a keyboard exists with it over USB since my motherboard doesn't have a ps2 port :( this will be after I buy a shine 3 though.
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 11 September 2013, 16:39:22
What size? the race, pure and poker x are all good pcb mounted boards, though they "only" have 6kro over usb I think. They are also smaller than tkl

Of course your best option is to get an ergoDOX as it supports full NKRO over USB, is fully programmable, the keyswitch-tops are removable without desoldering, AND it's ergonomic.
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 11 September 2013, 17:36:30
I was looking for full size or TKl with the home/pageup cluster and my arrow keys which I use a lot lol.
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 11 September 2013, 17:42:53
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=206
Is this one PCB mounted?
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 12 September 2013, 10:26:56
It's a short list...
Full size: Cherry G80 line
TKL: Neo Zelia
mini: Poker X, Pure, Race

None of them have more than 6KRO over USB. I don't see how it's a big deal NKRO unless you have 4 hands or something?
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: davkol on Thu, 12 September 2013, 10:27:44
Plover
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: watterrbottle on Thu, 12 September 2013, 12:57:59
if the board has LEDs don't you have to desolder them to open the switches?
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 September 2013, 13:03:08
if the board has LEDs don't you have to desolder them to open the switches?

You're correct, yes you have to desolder the LEDs in order to open the switches.
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 12 September 2013, 13:05:47
No, if it has LED it is going to keep the switch top from being opened.
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: TimIsABat on Thu, 12 September 2013, 13:08:32
NKRO is just a marketing ploy in my opinion. Go 60% because it is just plain amazing. Poker X if you can get one.
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 12 September 2013, 16:25:02
Is there a tenkeyless PCB mounted board? I would really love one.
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: meiosis on Thu, 12 September 2013, 16:27:46
What size? the race, pure and poker x are all good pcb mounted boards, though they "only" have 6kro over usb I think. They are also smaller than tkl

Of course your best option is to get an ergoDOX as it supports full NKRO over USB, is fully programmable, the keyswitch-tops are removable without desoldering, AND it's ergonomic.

doing tp4's work ;)
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 12 September 2013, 18:59:32
Hmm it's kinda expensive... Anything with NKRO over USB and PCB mounted in TKL. I played on a board with 6 key and constantly while flying a aircraft I ran out of keys... I don't have a PS2 port either  :-[
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: sth on Thu, 12 September 2013, 19:03:48
It's a short list...
Full size: Cherry G80 line
TKL: Neo Zelia
mini: Poker X, Pure, Race

None of them have more than 6KRO over USB. I don't see how it's a big deal NKRO unless you have 4 hands or something?
i've only ever been told the zelia is a piece of crap... but it looks really good.
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 12 September 2013, 19:41:57
It does look good but a lot people say it's not very good... Still looking for a TKL that is good and is PCB mounted.
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: skuko on Fri, 13 September 2013, 01:56:13
if you rule out the neo zelia, then i'm afraid your only solution is a custom phantom board (which is technically plate mounted, but has special cutouts in the plate allowing for switch modding.

those have to be assembled though and are quite pricy as well (or so i understood it).
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 13 September 2013, 14:39:32
All of the complaints I saw about the Neo, were on the first revision which apparently had **** wireless. Supposedly that was fixed on the newer revision. I don't see many other complaints about them other than should have been known before buying like the exposed PCB. MX is MX, the keycaps are the same as others from the same OEM, Plum and Noppoo. I never saw any negative remarks about wired function or it's fit and finish.
I don't own one, but I wouldn't be worried to buy one.
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: C5Allroad on Fri, 13 September 2013, 17:41:36
if you rule out the neo zelia, then i'm afraid your only solution is a custom phantom board (which is technically plate mounted, but has special cutouts in the plate allowing for switch modding.

those have to be assembled though and are quite pricy as well (or so i understood it).
Where can I buy a phantom board?
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 13 September 2013, 17:48:10
Phantom PCB (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=536) plus you will need a plate, because it dosen't have mounts for stabilziers in the PCB, and a case of some sort that is Filco compatible, switches, keycaps, etc...
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: C5Allroad on Fri, 13 September 2013, 20:49:28
What plate can I remove the key stem and spring without soldering
Where can I find that one?
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 14 September 2013, 13:28:00
Looks like another buy for phantom plates may be gearing up (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48334.0).
Title: Re: Good PCB mounted boards?
Post by: C5Allroad on Sat, 14 September 2013, 16:35:42
Hmm I'll see when I can spend money...