I don't see what the big fuss is all about regarding windows 8, sure it's a bit harder to navigate , but everything else looks real polished , and i don't crash on windows 8.
How is it hard to navigate? The Metro is just the start menu expanded.
Why is there even a start menu at this point?
All you need is a search field, and links to my computer and control panel... Why do I need to give up my entire desktop to a horrible looking screen of oversized icons (of which the desktop is bizzarly one) and then scroll past the metro apps to get to the actual apps in the new search field.
How is it hard to navigate? The Metro is just the start menu expanded.
But you would actually have to open an application to enter the desktop
For me Vista is a better operating system than Windows 8, it's easier to use and was designed around a good idea that then manifested it's self in a better more optimal OS called Windows 7.
Windows 8 is some half arsed horrible crack to pair two interfaces that should never be paired together, and has kinda failed. Yeah Windows 8 has made money, but it's windows ofc it would make money.
For me Vista is a better operating system than Windows 8, it's easier to use and was designed around a good idea that then manifested it's self in a better more optimal OS called Windows 7.
Still love using Windows 7. And it still performs nicely on my desktop under any condition.Windows 8 is some half arsed horrible crack to pair two interfaces that should never be paired together, and has kinda failed. Yeah Windows 8 has made money, but it's windows ofc it would make money.
Windows 8 will always be remembered as the utter failure for mating a mobile phone interface to a desktop pc, enough said ::) .
Have any of you used Windows 8 on a device with a touchscreen? Maybe then you will understand why they have made the changes that they have. Changing the systems for desktops as well keeps continuity.
For me Vista is a better operating system than Windows 8, it's easier to use and was designed around a good idea that then manifested it's self in a better more optimal OS called Windows 7.
Still love using Windows 7. And it still performs nicely on my desktop under any condition.Windows 8 is some half arsed horrible crack to pair two interfaces that should never be paired together, and has kinda failed. Yeah Windows 8 has made money, but it's windows ofc it would make money.
Windows 8 will always be remembered as the utter failure for mating a mobile phone interface to a desktop pc, enough said ::) .
Have any of you used Windows 8 on a device with a touchscreen? Maybe then you will understand why they have made the changes that they have. Changing the systems for desktops as well keeps continuity.
Have any of you used Windows 8 on a device with a touchscreen? Maybe then you will understand why they have made the changes that they have. Changing the systems for desktops as well keeps continuity.
No, but I'm sorry a laptop or computer with a touch screen is a bad thing, not a good thing. You want a mobile OS that can be used on touch screen devices, yeah its called Windows Phone and they already made it, so why is the desktop OS suffering? It makes zero sense, and hell if your going to copy anything from Apple, it would surly be the place where they make BILLIONS....For me Vista is a better operating system than Windows 8, it's easier to use and was designed around a good idea that then manifested it's self in a better more optimal OS called Windows 7.
Still love using Windows 7. And it still performs nicely on my desktop under any condition.Windows 8 is some half arsed horrible crack to pair two interfaces that should never be paired together, and has kinda failed. Yeah Windows 8 has made money, but it's windows ofc it would make money.
Windows 8 will always be remembered as the utter failure for mating a mobile phone interface to a desktop pc, enough said ::) .
Yeah I'm a win7 user, just making the point that Vista the most hated OS of all time, isn't actually that bad and once patched is totally fine and actually better to use than Win8
Have any of you used Windows 8 on a device with a touchscreen? Maybe then you will understand why they have made the changes that they have. Changing the systems for desktops as well keeps continuity.
And how many consumer touchscreen PCs are there out there at the moment? Compared to conventional desktops?
How many people running older operating systems looking to upgrade to WIndows 8 would have a touch screen?
Yes I have heard that a touch screen is the way to go with Windows 8, but really, aiming for an almost non-existent target market is just silly.
Have any of you used Windows 8 on a device with a touchscreen? Maybe then you will understand why they have made the changes that they have. Changing the systems for desktops as well keeps continuity.
No, but I'm sorry a laptop or computer with a touch screen is a bad thing, not a good thing. You want a mobile OS that can be used on touch screen devices, yeah its called Windows Phone and they already made it, so why is the desktop OS suffering? It makes zero sense, and hell if your going to copy anything from Apple, it would surly be the place where they make BILLIONS....For me Vista is a better operating system than Windows 8, it's easier to use and was designed around a good idea that then manifested it's self in a better more optimal OS called Windows 7.
Still love using Windows 7. And it still performs nicely on my desktop under any condition.Windows 8 is some half arsed horrible crack to pair two interfaces that should never be paired together, and has kinda failed. Yeah Windows 8 has made money, but it's windows ofc it would make money.
Windows 8 will always be remembered as the utter failure for mating a mobile phone interface to a desktop pc, enough said ::) .
Yeah I'm a win7 user, just making the point that Vista the most hated OS of all time, isn't actually that bad and once patched is totally fine and actually better to use than Win8
You're 100% right, MS are just stupid for creating an OS that truly does work on a desktop and a tablet device.
They should also definitely copy Apple, I mean their OS is really developing for laptops and touchscreens wouldn't you agree?
Have any of you used Windows 8 on a device with a touchscreen? Maybe then you will understand why they have made the changes that they have. Changing the systems for desktops as well keeps continuity.
No, but I'm sorry a laptop or computer with a touch screen is a bad thing, not a good thing. You want a mobile OS that can be used on touch screen devices, yeah its called Windows Phone and they already made it, so why is the desktop OS suffering? It makes zero sense, and hell if your going to copy anything from Apple, it would surly be the place where they make BILLIONS....For me Vista is a better operating system than Windows 8, it's easier to use and was designed around a good idea that then manifested it's self in a better more optimal OS called Windows 7.
Still love using Windows 7. And it still performs nicely on my desktop under any condition.Windows 8 is some half arsed horrible crack to pair two interfaces that should never be paired together, and has kinda failed. Yeah Windows 8 has made money, but it's windows ofc it would make money.
Windows 8 will always be remembered as the utter failure for mating a mobile phone interface to a desktop pc, enough said ::) .
Yeah I'm a win7 user, just making the point that Vista the most hated OS of all time, isn't actually that bad and once patched is totally fine and actually better to use than Win8
You're 100% right, MS are just stupid for creating an OS that truly does work on a desktop and a tablet device.
They should also definitely copy Apple, I mean their OS is really developing for laptops and touchscreens wouldn't you agree?
Works? Yeah Windows 8 tables are great! dat surface sold what like, 3 units to some guy called Steve? So yeah I'd call them pretty stupid, becasue it's bad for both uses, its worse than Win7 on the desktop and not as good as Windows Mobile on a touch screen.
And yeah, they should copy Apple where Apple has made Microsoft look like chumps, remember how horrible and garbage Windows Mobile was prior to Windows Phone 8? I sure do, it took the iPhone and then several years for MS to even have something that's comparable and then because its such a tiny little market, it has no apps and so only a few people in Italy bought any...
In the mean time, Apple has been able to make literally billions of $ selling basically the same device they launched in 2007 with simply varying sizes of screens, so yeah... if I was any kind of tech company I'd want some of that money
Have any of you used Windows 8 on a device with a touchscreen? Maybe then you will understand why they have made the changes that they have. Changing the systems for desktops as well keeps continuity.
And how many consumer touchscreen PCs are there out there at the moment? Compared to conventional desktops?
How many people running older operating systems looking to upgrade to WIndows 8 would have a touch screen?
Yes I have heard that a touch screen is the way to go with Windows 8, but really, aiming for an almost non-existent target market is just silly.
MS cannot do both, they either stay supporting legacy systems with stale software or they explore new options for modern devices.
Have any of you used Windows 8 on a device with a touchscreen? Maybe then you will understand why they have made the changes that they have. Changing the systems for desktops as well keeps continuity.
And how many consumer touchscreen PCs are there out there at the moment? Compared to conventional desktops?
How many people running older operating systems looking to upgrade to WIndows 8 would have a touch screen?
Yes I have heard that a touch screen is the way to go with Windows 8, but really, aiming for an almost non-existent target market is just silly.
MS cannot do both, they either stay supporting legacy systems with stale software or they explore new options for modern devices.
Not denying that, just suggesting that there are fewer such "modern devices" around as Microsoft would like to think. This is a strategy that could go either way. Unfortunately at the moment it seems to be going the wrong way.
Have any of you used Windows 8 on a device with a touchscreen? Maybe then you will understand why they have made the changes that they have. Changing the systems for desktops as well keeps continuity.
No, but I'm sorry a laptop or computer with a touch screen is a bad thing, not a good thing. You want a mobile OS that can be used on touch screen devices, yeah its called Windows Phone and they already made it, so why is the desktop OS suffering? It makes zero sense, and hell if your going to copy anything from Apple, it would surly be the place where they make BILLIONS....For me Vista is a better operating system than Windows 8, it's easier to use and was designed around a good idea that then manifested it's self in a better more optimal OS called Windows 7.
Still love using Windows 7. And it still performs nicely on my desktop under any condition.Windows 8 is some half arsed horrible crack to pair two interfaces that should never be paired together, and has kinda failed. Yeah Windows 8 has made money, but it's windows ofc it would make money.
Windows 8 will always be remembered as the utter failure for mating a mobile phone interface to a desktop pc, enough said ::) .
Yeah I'm a win7 user, just making the point that Vista the most hated OS of all time, isn't actually that bad and once patched is totally fine and actually better to use than Win8
You're 100% right, MS are just stupid for creating an OS that truly does work on a desktop and a tablet device.
They should also definitely copy Apple, I mean their OS is really developing for laptops and touchscreens wouldn't you agree?
Works? Yeah Windows 8 tables are great! dat surface sold what like, 3 units to some guy called Steve? So yeah I'd call them pretty stupid, becasue it's bad for both uses, its worse than Win7 on the desktop and not as good as Windows Mobile on a touch screen.
And yeah, they should copy Apple where Apple has made Microsoft look like chumps, remember how horrible and garbage Windows Mobile was prior to Windows Phone 8? I sure do, it took the iPhone and then several years for MS to even have something that's comparable and then because its such a tiny little market, it has no apps and so only a few people in Italy bought any...
In the mean time, Apple has been able to make literally billions of $ selling basically the same device they launched in 2007 with simply varying sizes of screens, so yeah... if I was any kind of tech company I'd want some of that money
Is it bad? How has your experience with a touchscreen Windows 8 machine been? I take it that you have one as you seem to be pretty well informed about it.
I'm not going to continue as it feels like I am just talking to a keyboard warrior / troll.
My Windows 8 laptop / tablet thing is amazing, I wouldn't go back now.
Have any of you used Windows 8 on a device with a touchscreen? Maybe then you will understand why they have made the changes that they have. Changing the systems for desktops as well keeps continuity.
No, but I'm sorry a laptop or computer with a touch screen is a bad thing, not a good thing. You want a mobile OS that can be used on touch screen devices, yeah its called Windows Phone and they already made it, so why is the desktop OS suffering? It makes zero sense, and hell if your going to copy anything from Apple, it would surly be the place where they make BILLIONS....For me Vista is a better operating system than Windows 8, it's easier to use and was designed around a good idea that then manifested it's self in a better more optimal OS called Windows 7.
Still love using Windows 7. And it still performs nicely on my desktop under any condition.Windows 8 is some half arsed horrible crack to pair two interfaces that should never be paired together, and has kinda failed. Yeah Windows 8 has made money, but it's windows ofc it would make money.
Windows 8 will always be remembered as the utter failure for mating a mobile phone interface to a desktop pc, enough said ::) .
Yeah I'm a win7 user, just making the point that Vista the most hated OS of all time, isn't actually that bad and once patched is totally fine and actually better to use than Win8
You're 100% right, MS are just stupid for creating an OS that truly does work on a desktop and a tablet device.
They should also definitely copy Apple, I mean their OS is really developing for laptops and touchscreens wouldn't you agree?
Works? Yeah Windows 8 tables are great! dat surface sold what like, 3 units to some guy called Steve? So yeah I'd call them pretty stupid, becasue it's bad for both uses, its worse than Win7 on the desktop and not as good as Windows Mobile on a touch screen.
And yeah, they should copy Apple where Apple has made Microsoft look like chumps, remember how horrible and garbage Windows Mobile was prior to Windows Phone 8? I sure do, it took the iPhone and then several years for MS to even have something that's comparable and then because its such a tiny little market, it has no apps and so only a few people in Italy bought any...
In the mean time, Apple has been able to make literally billions of $ selling basically the same device they launched in 2007 with simply varying sizes of screens, so yeah... if I was any kind of tech company I'd want some of that money
Is it bad? How has your experience with a touchscreen Windows 8 machine been? I take it that you have one as you seem to be pretty well informed about it.
I'm not going to continue as it feels like I am just talking to a keyboard warrior / troll.
My experiences have been limited becasue very few people own such devices, but I've used touch screen laptops since XP and they have almost all been terrible, not becasue of the OS becasue the whole idea is dumb, why if you have a laptop is it easier to poke around on the screen? Keyboard shortcuts are faster and more accurate, then there is the whole hidden nonsense of the Win8 OS, like the charms, getting those to appear using the touch screen sucks, its easier to use a mouse/touch pad at which point, why bother with the touch screen?
Though I've yet to use a desktop touch screen machine...
Lots of people still prefer to drive "hot rods" made in the '60's and '70's, maybe with some modern mods.
I keep hearing LOTS of people having problems running games on Windows 8. But i'm still on Vista x64, so idk. Mine works well enough. Sure it's got some weirdness here and there, but doesn't everything? I don't think i've ever used anything with which i couldn't find something wrong, or something sub-optimal. Everything is a compromise.
I use Windows because of DirectX, Gaming, Market share, etc., which makes the Linux Gaming options rather sparse, or simply not an option at all for certain games i want to play.
Windows, to me, is literally only useful because they've nearly monopolized PC Gaming. And now, lots of people are having problems with Windows 8, and gaming.
So... /windows_hate
The instant i am able to do everything i want to do, without touching Windows, M$ can S my D.
But until then, and because i can't change it, and won't completely alter my life just because microsoft, i'm content enough, as long as it works.
Windows 8 + Gaming = Uh Oh! That, and the arbitrary interface changes, are probably where most of the hate begins.
But as we all know, once you have one reason to hate something, you'll tend to find more.
They'll have to drag me away from XP by my shins as I scrabble at the pavement with my bloody fingers.
XP was an improvement over previous versions, but everything beyond that, to me, has been completely unnecessary.
When I installed Win8, I was totally willing to give the new start-screen a chance.
But then I found out I wasn't going to be able to run Metro apps anyway. I mean that literally... Metro apps refuse to run at all if you turn off UAC. (I guess MS doesn't want me shopping in their app-store!)
So I installed StartIsBack (http://www.startisback.com/). Now Win8 looks and feels like a skinned Win7.
Metro apps run on my computer with UAC disabled...
Metro apps run on my computer with UAC disabled...
No they don't. You just haven't completely disabled UAC. (You can't disable UAC using the UI anymore... you have to do it in the registry. Simply moving the slider to the bottom *does not* disable UAC.)
Ahh, you're right... I thought it did disable it, but it just doesn't notify me.
Didn't it used to disable it in Vista / 7 by doing that? If not, I dunno where I got this assumption from, sorry
WHEN I DON'T WANT MY START MENU I JUST GO ON MY WINDOWS 3.1 PC. CAN'T BEAT PROGRAM MANAGER!
When I installed Win8, I was totally willing to give the new start-screen a chance.
But then I found out I wasn't going to be able to run Metro apps anyway. I mean that literally... Metro apps refuse to run at all if you turn off UAC. (I guess MS doesn't want me shopping in their app-store!)
So I installed StartIsBack (http://www.startisback.com/). Now Win8 looks and feels like a skinned Win7.
I just picked up a new laptop, I only just discovered that every damn laptop has Windows 8 on it, even though I slated it earlier on, I shall have a play with it and report back later on. Luckily I do have a spare copy of Win7 lying around I can downgrade too.
First things first, quest for replacement Start button.
Windows 8 is everything wrong with Microsoft at the moment, ran by a visionless CEO who has no clue about how to take MS into the future other than failing to copy other company's, it's pathetic and has been an abject failure, Windows Phone 8, Surface and Windows 8.
For me Vista is a better operating system than Windows 8, it's easier to use and was designed around a good idea that then manifested it's self in a better more optimal OS called Windows 7. Windows 8 is some half arsed horrible crack to pair two interfaces that should never be paired together, and has kinda failed. Yeah Windows 8 has made money, but it's windows ofc it would make money.
It's a dumb OS that is harder to use than previous OS's and highlights just how clueless they are going forward.
How do you get to 8.1?
How do you get to 8.1?
How do you get to 8.1?
Last I checked the full release of the 8.1 update was set mid-October.
As far as it goes, I have a StarDock sub so I've had a start button for a long time. The OS itself has a few under the hood improvements that won't do much for most people. The main one is that they finally updated the memory management in a few pretty important ways: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2011/10/how-windows-8s-memory-management-modifications-make-for-a-better-user-experience/
Actually the tickless kernel will be beneficial to everyone, most importantly for laptop users.
Actually the tickless kernel will be beneficial to everyone, most importantly for laptop users.
I actually haven't heard about this. Got a link?
Windows 8 as an OS is okay.
Working in comp repair i DO NOT ****ING KNOW WHAT THE **** THEY WERE THINKING. Every windows 8 laptop or PC is a ****ing pain to repair. Doing repair installs just straight up dont work alot of the time. Itll just sit there doing nothing. for laptops and prebuilt oem machines the product key is built into the BIOS . wtf? What is wrong with just using product keys like 7? Alot of win 8 laptops need modification to the bios to just get it to boot to disks.. again, why? Theres other things i've come across but forget at this moment.
I still stick to 7 and still recommend customers too stay aswell unless they want to use touchscreen features.
Windows 8 as an OS is okay.
Working in comp repair i DO NOT ****ING KNOW WHAT THE **** THEY WERE THINKING. Every windows 8 laptop or PC is a ****ing pain to repair. Doing repair installs just straight up dont work alot of the time. Itll just sit there doing nothing. for laptops and prebuilt oem machines the product key is built into the BIOS . wtf? What is wrong with just using product keys like 7? Alot of win 8 laptops need modification to the bios to just get it to boot to disks.. again, why? Theres other things i've come across but forget at this moment.
I still stick to 7 and still recommend customers too stay aswell unless they want to use touchscreen features.
And seriously? Wow. Even more to put me off Windows 8.
JUST ADD A "9" ONTO WINDOWS 8 AND YOU'VE GOT ONE OF THE BEST OPERATING SYSTEMS EVER!Show Image(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_K6vAZCh16Y4/TJsxmfldsSI/AAAAAAAAMxo/wAxeqLFbskY/s1600/Windows%2B98%2BSegunda%2BEdi%25C3%25A7%25C3%25A3o%2B-%2BSE.jpg)
Enlighten me, please. Why is the a better solution than product keys?Windows 8 as an OS is okay.
Working in comp repair i DO NOT ****ING KNOW WHAT THE **** THEY WERE THINKING. Every windows 8 laptop or PC is a ****ing pain to repair. Doing repair installs just straight up dont work alot of the time. Itll just sit there doing nothing. for laptops and prebuilt oem machines the product key is built into the BIOS . wtf? What is wrong with just using product keys like 7? Alot of win 8 laptops need modification to the bios to just get it to boot to disks.. again, why? Theres other things i've come across but forget at this moment.
I still stick to 7 and still recommend customers too stay aswell unless they want to use touchscreen features.
LOL are you serious? You work in computer repair, but can't understand why Microsoft didn't want product keys printed for everyone to see on the bottom of the computer?
Enlighten me, please. Why is the a better solution than product keys?Windows 8 as an OS is okay.
Working in comp repair i DO NOT ****ING KNOW WHAT THE **** THEY WERE THINKING. Every windows 8 laptop or PC is a ****ing pain to repair. Doing repair installs just straight up dont work alot of the time. Itll just sit there doing nothing. for laptops and prebuilt oem machines the product key is built into the BIOS . wtf? What is wrong with just using product keys like 7? Alot of win 8 laptops need modification to the bios to just get it to boot to disks.. again, why? Theres other things i've come across but forget at this moment.
I still stick to 7 and still recommend customers too stay aswell unless they want to use touchscreen features.
LOL are you serious? You work in computer repair, but can't understand why Microsoft didn't want product keys printed for everyone to see on the bottom of the computer?
Win8 fixes most of my itches I had with Win7, only improvements down the line for me. I upgraded day 1 and haven't regretted it yet.
Win8 fixes most of my itches I had with Win7, only improvements down the line for me. I upgraded day 1 and haven't regretted it yet.
what problems did you have with 7
Win8 fixes most of my itches I had with Win7, only improvements down the line for me. I upgraded day 1 and haven't regretted it yet.
what problems did you have with 7
Slow indexing and overly aggressive UAC.
Win8 fixes most of my itches I had with Win7, only improvements down the line for me. I upgraded day 1 and haven't regretted it yet.
what problems did you have with 7
Slow indexing and overly aggressive UAC.
Who doesn't turn UAC off?
I have 2 rigs, each with Windows 7 & 8 Pro. I really like the in-dept chart you get when transferring files and the task manager of Windows 8. And that hybrid sleep mode that allows it to boot in less than 10 secs on an SSD is always a plus.
Only thing I'm still trying to get used to is the lack of confirmation on deletes on Windows 8. I don't get the "Are you sure you want to move this file to the recycle bin" dialogue box anymore whenever I click on something and press the DEL key, but apparently my friends still do and they're on 8 too. :confused:
And @microsoft windows,Windows ME best OS evar.
what problems did you have with 7
Slow indexing and overly aggressive UAC.
Who doesn't turn UAC off?
Pretty sure I turned it off without making registry tweaks.what problems did you have with 7
Slow indexing and overly aggressive UAC.
Who doesn't turn UAC off?
Everybody using Win8, since they don't allow you to turn it off anymore (without making registry tweaks that break Metro apps). :(
I have 2 rigs, each with Windows 7 & 8 Pro. I really like the in-dept chart you get when transferring files and the task manager of Windows 8. And that hybrid sleep mode that allows it to boot in less than 10 secs on an SSD is always a plus.
Only thing I'm still trying to get used to is the lack of confirmation on deletes on Windows 8. I don't get the "Are you sure you want to move this file to the recycle bin" dialogue box anymore whenever I click on something and press the DEL key, but apparently my friends still do and they're on 8 too. :confused:
And @microsoft windows,Windows ME best OS evar.
Right click the recycle bin and click Properties, then check "Display delete confirmation dialog"
Pretty sure I turned it off without making registry tweaks.
I have not had any uac pop ups and my Metro apps still works so yeah. :/
Been using it for around 8 months now and I really like it. First thing I did was get the Start button from Stardock, but ever since then it's been pretty perfect. No complaints with it. I don't even see the metro interface.
Windows 8 is so meh... I wonder how 8.1 will fair
Next year will be very interesting when support/security patches for XP stop rolling out.
XP seems about as outdated to me now as 98. I don't understand why people want to keep clutching onto that old OS. It's especially bad on modern hardware, it can't even remotely take advantage of it and is actually very detrimental.
I still keep hoping for MS to be brave and let go of all legacy support much as Apple did a decade ago and go x64 only across all OS. I would like to see them do something with their experimental singularity/midori OS core. They could make a 32bit legacy OS with long term support much like Windows Thin for the enterprise to use all their old in house and specialty applications they are too cheap to update. I just don't see the need to keep in support for things like floppy drives, parallel printers and the ability to run programs designed for Windows 3.1 in current OS.
I still keep hoping for MS to be brave and let go of all legacy support much as Apple did a decade ago and go x64 only across all OS.
Instead of refining their bloated OSX they keep releasing updates which you pay for.
i'm assuming that's australian pricing?
it's never correct to use australian pricing to analyze a NA market (i honestly don't understand why software - no shipping - would be so much more expensive).
windows 7 was ~$150 for retail new price. 8 was ~$100. upgrade prices were drastically cheaper.
no, apple OSes are actually $20-$30 CND. 7/8 are $100-$150 CND.
no, apple OSes are actually $20-$30 CND. 7/8 are $100-$150 CND.
Yep, we get shafted every way you see it. It's sad that we get painted bullseye's on ourselves every time we want to buy anything related to PC/Software gear.
Although I bought my OEM Win 8 Pro when it was selling $120.00AUD when it was first released. Good deal so I thought at the time. Besides I never normally buy OS's for my PC's 8) .
But the price tag was attractive, like I would ever spend over $300 for any Software on this planet, because the moolah would of always gone towards a Motherboard or CPU directly.
If you have any live apps left, it's probably it. Updating news feeds, the weather, etc. constantly. You can also set those apps to on demand or something about being on a metered connection and they stop downloading in the background all day long.
I hardly ever shutdown or reboot so it's not much of an issue for me (all I have to do is hit my mute key to unmute) but it could be doing that on yours too?
Yeah, I'd say Elrick's problem is a hardware issue, not so much a Windows issue... never had any issues installing drivers for any device in Windows 8 (even my ancient laser printer, which wasn't PnP in Win7, was PnP in Win8).
Another thing which ONLY win 8 seems to do is that svchost.exe keeps downloading something constantly when connected to the internet. The horror is that I can't know what it's downloading because my BitDefender Pro says it's svchost.exe doing it but the system refuses to provide any further info. Terrifying that everytime you use the net something gets downloaded without you authorizing it.
At least with 7 and Vista there was never that problem because nothing is downloaded unless you request it.
SysInternals is fantastic!
Big vote here :)
But does it still work on Win 8?
SysInternals is fantastic!
Big vote here :)
But does it still work on Win 8?
yup SysInternals is compatible, so long as you're using the latest version of the suite. it is very awesome
7 > 8 was £15 about $25 :3
7 > 8 was £15 about $25 :3
Upgrading was 15€ the first few hours after release due to a bugged upgrading offer for everyone without any kind of verification. The regular upgrading offer was open for everyone who bought a Win7 machine since 2012, valid until January 2013, upgrade cost 15€.
7 > 8 was £15 about $25 :3
Upgrading was 15€ the first few hours after release due to a bugged upgrading offer for everyone without any kind of verification. The regular upgrading offer was open for everyone who bought a Win7 machine since 2012, valid until January 2013, upgrade cost 15€.
Wasn't like that over here, I bought about 4 copies for £15, from retail stores (online) for about 2-3weeks after release.
EDIT: I'm not actually sure what you are saying, are you disagreeing with me or what :3
I repair and work with a lot of legacy computer equipment, and having support for old-fashioned hardware is very important for me.
Anyway, I subscribe to the "skip every 2nd version" camp. In other words Windows for Workgroups (3.11), 98, XP, Win7 are the ones I found best. 95, ME, Vista, Win8 all kinda suck, IMO, for various reasons.The whole "every other release" thing is seeing patterns where none exist. XP was (rightfully) hated on its release, the "tinkertoy" interface came in for particular vitriol but it was the BSoDs that did it for me. MS had been getting pretty good at random crashes with earlier release, but XP pre SP2 showed signs of absolute, world-crushing, excellence. Add to that its ability to be remotely pwnt by skr1pt k1ddi3z in seconds, and you had a "really good" operating system.
If you want an OS that's "good enough", it's a mere download away from pretty much any Linux distro.
If you want an OS that's "good enough", it's a mere download away from pretty much any Linux distro.
I was always scared of using a Linux distribution due to it not being a Windows Install. Also worried about conducting banking and payments via their OS. Just want a 100% secure OS without fear of losing my log-ins to key finders and other rubbish that might be (possibly) installed via any current Linux OS.
Sorry to be so negative about Linux but I couldn't take a risk that would cost me big time down the track.
Also worried about conducting banking and payments via their OS. Just want a 100% secure OS without fear of losing my log-ins to key finders and other rubbish that might be (possibly) installed via any current Linux OS.Sorry? That's gotta be a troll, right?
Sorry to be so negative about Linux but I couldn't take a risk that would cost me big time down the track.
Lots of distros to choose from depending on your tastes, too. I like Crunchbang personally, it's so minimalist. Ubuntu is a popular choice. Give it a try, you may be pleasantly surprised.
You'd rather blindly trust your data to non-auditable code in a closed environment that has historically proven to be the #1 host for malware of all sorts? To a closed environment that allegedly has NSA backdoors planted in it?
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I just wish Linux provided that same amount of protection.
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I know they exist but do you really think Linux is any safer in that regard?Yes. At a fundamental level, the linux kernel and GNU userspace layer is enormously more secure than the equivalent parts of Windows, and they are updated to enhance that security / patch issues far more regularly.
Firstly, I apologise if I caused offense, there was none meant.
you helped instill a curiosity about using Linux on at least one PC Box, to see what all the mystery is relating to this new operating system ;) .That's a good start. Curiosity is always good.
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Eventually I switched back to Windows due to the lack of game support under Linux.
Of course the Office equivalents on Linux also suck, but that's a whole other debate.Indeed. They suck almost as much as Office itself.
recently i've bought a cheap and powerful hp laptop with windows 8 preinstalled. wi-fi software crashed 5 minutes of use. i formatted the hd and installed the latest ubuntu, which took only ten minutes. i am satisfied now.
I've had to set up some computers with win8 and also update to 8.1, so far I'm not impressed and it's not worth upgrading at all. Might've been worth it during the discount period after release, but at full price I just can't see why I'd want to get 8/8.1 over 7.
I've had to set up some computers with win8 and also update to 8.1, so far I'm not impressed and it's not worth upgrading at all. Might've been worth it during the discount period after release, but at full price I just can't see why I'd want to get 8/8.1 over 7.
My thoughts exactly. I don't see it anywhere worth the money they're demanding. If it was down around $50USD max then it might be worth upgrading but at the current price tag, the 7 version still reigns supreme if you have to choose a windows operating system.
Ubuntu is taking my interest currently and it might actually swing me away from Microsoft. Go figure, Linux seems much more exciting now especially since it's 100% FREE ;D .
Worst part: needing a Microsoft account to do anything with the tiles/store. I hate that!!! Making me sign into a web account to use my own computer?? Heck no!! Everything in the store gets crap reviews anyways... you also have to have the annoying as heck "UAC" enabled to use the interactive tiles... sigh...
Did they update the search functionality in 8.1? So I can find applications easier
EDIT: Seeing they updated the search from the other thread. Though I'm wondering if I can install without the store (since I disabled the crap out of it, haha).
But if you're not using the Metro interface, you don't need to use a Microsoft account to log in...
But if you're not using the Metro interface, you don't need to use a Microsoft account to log in...
Try installing 8.1 without their Microsoft Account? To be on the safe side with 8, I always disconnect the internet when installing their crummy OS.
But if you're not using the Metro interface, you don't need to use a Microsoft account to log in...
Try installing 8.1 without their Microsoft Account? To be on the safe side with 8, I always disconnect the internet when installing their crummy OS.
Yeah I did exactly that - installed Windows 8.1 without a Microsoft Account (http://www.infobyte.hr/blog/337/windows-8-1-preview-how-to-install-without-microsoft-account-skip-microsoft-account/).
Still don't know what all the *****ing is about. I've been running 8 since RC hit MSDN in early August last year. Never setup a Live account, never used any Metro apps. Not a hitch. Yeah, you have to read the prompts a little carefully to get the desired result, but that's nothing new.Same here, I have very little if anything against W8. Same with W7, They're the same to me.
But if you're not using the Metro interface, you don't need to use a Microsoft account to log in...
Try installing 8.1 without their Microsoft Account? To be on the safe side with 8, I always disconnect the internet when installing their crummy OS.
Yeah I did exactly that - installed Windows 8.1 without a Microsoft Account (http://www.infobyte.hr/blog/337/windows-8-1-preview-how-to-install-without-microsoft-account-skip-microsoft-account/).
Treating your customers like idiots or thieves.
Nice one.
Still don't know what all the *****ing is about. I've been running 8 since RC hit MSDN in early August last year. Never setup a Live account, never used any Metro apps. Not a hitch. Yeah, you have to read the prompts a little carefully to get the desired result, but that's nothing new.
My windows 8 is pretty much windows 7 with all the benefits of windows 8. I have no reason to go back to Window 7.
My windows 8 is pretty much windows 7 with all the benefits of windows 8. I have no reason to go back to Window 7.
I bought a lot of licenses for Windows 7 Pro/Ultimate x64's hence I will continue to get my money's worth. I still love Win 7 despite paying up for a Win 8 Pro x64 hence for me this will be the last Windows OS purchase for some years to come.
Can never see the need to ever want 8.1, because everything still works perfectly :thumb: .