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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: prasopes on Sat, 14 September 2013, 16:29:04
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I'd love to have a desktop keyboard with a TrackPoint. Since the IBM SpaceSaver and SpaceSaver II keyboards use rubber domes instead of buckling springs, should I even consider buying one? I've read that the early Thinkpads had quite pleasant rubber dome keyboards, so perhaps the old SpaceSaver keyboard could be similar?
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I once had one... and it felt terrible.. so terrible that I couldn`t use it for some minutes and instantly resold it...
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The M4-1 (i.e. original Space Saver) is ok. The problem is that the old Trackpoint II design was not nearly sensitive enough for use on the sort of resolutions that are common on modern monitors.
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I'm with snoopy on this one. I think if you get one nib then you'll be okay for a while, but not forever.
The layout is superb, however, I really want a mechanical version.
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So the Space Saver II is substantially worse? I like the fact that the Trackpoint on these has three buttons as I use the middle button a lot for scrolling.
The M4-1 (i.e. original Space Saver) is ok. The problem is that the old Trackpoint II design was not nearly sensitive enough for use on the sort of resolutions that are common on modern monitors.
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I can't comment personally, I only have experience of the first one. The II will have a better tracpoint though (I think it uses the Trackpoint IV)
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Get the original spacesaver with buckling springs and try to forget the trackpoint. Or go fullsize...
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^^ this
Buckling springs are the best switches ever invented.
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After re-reading my post - my comments are about the key feel / rubber domes. Trackpoint is fine, although it could be 'faster'
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Get a M13 and mod it down to a smaller size? There is one for sale for a ridiculously good deal right now, and I'm willing to help you with the price. I just want the caps.
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Get the original spacesaver with buckling springs and try to forget the trackpoint. Or go fullsize...
The buckling spring one (aka SSK) is a "Space Saving Keyboard". The later ones are "Space Saver Keyboards".
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Get a M13 and mod it down to a smaller size? There is one for sale for a ridiculously good deal right now, and I'm willing to help you with the price. I just want the caps.
I had considered doing this with one of my M13's. But, the main reason I like tenkeyless is to leave room for a mouse. If I have a keyboard with a trackpoint there's no real reason to save space for the mouse.
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Get a M13 and mod it down to a smaller size? There is one for sale for a ridiculously good deal right now, and I'm willing to help you with the price. I just want the caps.
I had considered doing this with one of my M13's. But, the main reason I like tenkeyless is to leave room for a mouse. If I have a keyboard with a trackpoint there's no real reason to save space for the mouse.
I was thinking a 60% or 75% with a trackpoint might be nice to travel with.
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Would not suggest to cut down an M13, get a Unicomp with a trackpoint to mod instead.
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Would not suggest to cut down an M13, get a Unicomp with a trackpoint to mod instead.
That is a better idea in general, however the problem with cutting down a unicomp is the controller is connected above the number pad and how it is connected. See this thread: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40006.75
I don't recall how samwisekoi got around that exactly (no pics) but it seems like he did. It's just not as clean an operation as cutting down an IBM M.
I have a few of those IBM mice with the trackpoint in them, I could see putting something together with a standard M and those internals, or snagging the pointer out of a later space saver, but I have not looked into it beyond speculation.
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Would not suggest to cut down an M13, get a Unicomp with a trackpoint to mod instead.
Why not? A Unicomp because it could be said to be more "throwaway-able"?
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Would not suggest to cut down an M13, get a Unicomp with a trackpoint to mod instead.
Why not? A Unicomp because it could be said to be more "throwaway-able"?
Sure, If you break it, they can just make more.
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Anyone knows where i can buy a spacesaver model m for less than $200
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Anyone knows where i can buy a spacesaver model m for less than $200
With patience on ebay...
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Gonna be a long time D:
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Gonna be a long time D:
or try it here in classifieds... maybe you have luck...
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Usually the ssk available for sale in the classifieds usually cost around a million dollars
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Usually the ssk available for sale in the classifieds usually cost around a million dollars
ok, special offer for you: you can have one of mine for half a million dollar. that saves you 50% :D
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Usually the ssk available for sale in the classifieds usually cost around a million dollars
ok, special offer for you: you can have one of mine for half a million dollar. that saves you 50% :D
I'll sell you my genuine 1992 industrial SSK for half that.