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Title: ISO "150" keyboards with Cherry MX?
Post by: xandr on Sun, 15 September 2013, 05:06:13
Are there any (widely) available keyboards out there that feature a "ISO 150" layout, e.g. ISO with 1.5, 1, 1.5, 7, 1.5, 1, 1.5 bottom row?

I know the Matias Quiet Pro does have this layout as does the Phantom.

Both, 75% and fullsize would do as long as it's available with Cherry MX (preferrably blue, but I know my way around a soldering iron, so the switch color is no dealbreaker)

Oh, and USB is probably required although PS/2->USB should work on a Mac too, right?
Title: Re: ISO "150" keyboards with Cherry MX?
Post by: tipo33 on Sun, 15 September 2013, 05:57:28
Older Cherry keyboards,  The G80-1501 comes to mind.
Title: Re: ISO "150" keyboards with Cherry MX?
Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 15 September 2013, 05:59:38
I'd go for a Phantom. It supports the ISO150 layout, is programmable, you get to choose the switches, is USB and I think works on mac (don't know since I'm not a mac guy)


Plus, it's a really fun weekend project to solder together!
Title: Re: ISO "150" keyboards with Cherry MX?
Post by: phetto on Sun, 15 September 2013, 06:06:44
^
It can be ordered at mechanicalkeyboards.com.
Title: Re: ISO "150" keyboards with Cherry MX?
Post by: Moosecraft on Sun, 15 September 2013, 07:11:43
^
It can be ordered at mechanicalkeyboards.com.
But then you gotta solder all the hard stuffs T_T
Title: Re: ISO "150" keyboards with Cherry MX?
Post by: xandr on Sun, 15 September 2013, 08:52:58
Yeah, I noticed that mechanicalkeyboards.com sells the PCBs, but where would I get a mounting plate? All I've seen so far came from group buys that have finished by now. :(

Oh, and having to assemble it myself is no problem, I own a soldering station and know how to use it.
Title: Re: ISO "150" keyboards with Cherry MX?
Post by: Findecanor on Sun, 15 September 2013, 14:34:19
Keyboards with 6-unit space bar, 1.5u mods and two 1-unit keys on the right side between Alt and Ctrl are more common. Qpad, CM Storm TK,  Razer BW, Tesoro Durandal, ... Several of them are probably from the same manufacturer.

The Tt eSPORTS MEKA G-UNIT ..
Edit: No, it has not 1.5 mods. Except for the extra macro keys and buttons, It is almost the right layout. The Alt keys are 1.5, but the Ctrl keys are actually 1.75u!  I had not noticed that at first.
Most pictures of it are of the US-ANSI version which has a big-ass Enter and a short right Shift, but in ISO, it has a vertical Enter and normal-sized Shift keys . Cherry MX Black.
Title: Re: ISO "150" keyboards with Cherry MX?
Post by: xandr on Sun, 15 September 2013, 19:42:27
True, they are way more common, but I'm specifically looking for the ones without the second 1x1 key on the right of the spacebar. There's no use for that key on the Mac, so why have it on the keyboard? Besides, I like the symmetry :)
Title: Re: ISO "150" keyboards with Cherry MX?
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 15 September 2013, 20:25:57
I would go for an original cherry board.

I have a G80-1501HAD which has NKRO too, you just need a DIN->PS2 adapter.

It's hard to find them with UK ISO keycaps, but if you can ignore the legends the DE ISO ones (which are far more common) should be just fine.

The keycaps are some of the best available anywhere and the boards are very sturdy. They are also PCB-mount so you can modify them easily and are very cheap (£50 maximum for one in good condition?)
Title: Re: ISO "150" keyboards with Cherry MX?
Post by: whiskytango on Sun, 15 September 2013, 20:34:03
the_beast has an ISO 150 plate for sale but it is an odd layout because it has a split backspace.

the_beast sale thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44032.msg907548#msg907548)

phantom plate thread with images (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39410.msg770983#msg770983)
Title: Re: ISO "150" keyboards with Cherry MX?
Post by: xandr on Mon, 16 September 2013, 04:43:52
Older Cherry keyboards,  The G80-1501 comes to mind.

I would go for an original cherry board.

I have a G80-1501HAD which has NKRO too, you just need a DIN->PS2 adapter.

The old Cherry boards don't have keys in the 1x1 slot which doesn't work for me. On a Mac keyboard you'd have the following layout in the bottom row:
Ctrl (1.5) - Alt (1) - Cmd (1.5) - Space (7) - Cmd (1.5) - Alt (1) - Ctrl (1.5)

While you can live happily without the windows keys on a Windows PC, having no Cmd - or no Alt - on a Mac doesn't work since you actually need these keys for a lot of shortcuts.
Title: Re: ISO "150" keyboards with Cherry MX?
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 16 September 2013, 09:12:15
The old Cherry boards don't have keys in the 1x1 slot which doesn't work for me. On a Mac keyboard you'd have the following layout in the bottom row:
Ctrl (1.5) - Alt (1) - Cmd (1.5) - Space (7) - Cmd (1.5) - Alt (1) - Ctrl (1.5)

While you can live happily without the windows keys on a Windows PC, having no Cmd - or no Alt - on a Mac doesn't work since you actually need these keys for a lot of shortcuts.
Oh I see. In that case I think the Phantom's probably one of your few options.