Thank you for lowering to normal case. :)
WHAT KIND OF CRAP ARE THEY RUNNING ON YOUR WORK LAPTOP?
Ooh....that thing's a slug I bet. I'm surprised they're even still running those old AMD ****box PC's. And no service pack 3?
Let me guess...that machine comes with IE7.
Ooh....that thing's a slug I bet. I'm surprised they're even still running those old AMD ****box PC's. And no service pack 3?
Let me guess...that machine comes with IE7.
IE6. I never, EVER use it. Chrome is superior.
Ooh....that thing's a slug I bet. I'm surprised they're even still running those old AMD ****box PC's. And no service pack 3?
Ooh....that thing's a slug I bet. I'm surprised they're even still running those old AMD ****box PC's. And no service pack 3?
XP SP3 is over three times the size of the original OS and needs at least 5 times the memory to run right as it did on release.
Years ago, many admins wouldn't dare install SP3 with any less than one gig of ram and it's only gotten worse. 1 gig was simply not enough by the time you install Sp3 so some admins use a bandaid of simply ignoring SP3 and relying on their security to deal with threats. That trick worked for a few years, the problem today is that the security patches have caused even Sp2 to grow to the point that 1gig is barely enough even for it. Also, while Xp has more than tripled in size since release, everything else running on it has grown at even faster rates, an Antivirus on release was 10-30 megs, now they reach 100-300 or more. It's just becoming too much data for the older hardware and Xp's memory management, it was never designed to deal with that much data.
A lot of tweaking can keep them running okay, but XP's best days are behind it. In fact, it's nearing the point that unless it's a modern machine custom ordered with XP, I rarely see Xp anymore and one of the first things I tell customers with it is to consider moving to Win7. Even with only 1 or 2 gigs, it outperforms Xp at this point.
Ooh....that thing's a slug I bet. I'm surprised they're even still running those old AMD ****box PC's. And no service pack 3?
XP SP3 is over three times the size of the original OS and needs at least 5 times the memory to run right as it did on release.
Years ago, many admins wouldn't dare install SP3 with any less than one gig of ram and it's only gotten worse. 1 gig was simply not enough by the time you install Sp3 so some admins use a bandaid of simply ignoring SP3 and relying on their security to deal with threats. That trick worked for a few years, the problem today is that the security patches have caused even Sp2 to grow to the point that 1gig is barely enough even for it. Also, while Xp has more than tripled in size since release, everything else running on it has grown at even faster rates, an Antivirus on release was 10-30 megs, now they reach 100-300 or more. It's just becoming too much data for the older hardware and Xp's memory management, it was never designed to deal with that much data.
A lot of tweaking can keep them running okay, but XP's best days are behind it. In fact, it's nearing the point that unless it's a modern machine custom ordered with XP, I rarely see Xp anymore and one of the first things I tell customers with it is to consider moving to Win7. Even with only 1 or 2 gigs, it outperforms Xp at this point.
My personal experiences are not consistent with what you're suggesting about XP SP3.
I have installed XP on many machines, ranging from 350MHz Pentium II machines (I forget if I ever tried SP3 on AMD K6s, but I definitely ran SP2 on them) with 160MB of RAM to late P4s with a gig or two. SP2 was great for stability, and SP3 was at very least as good, if not better. Performance-wise, zero difference, although in some cases the machine ran noticeably better with SP3.
I do know there were some headaches when ITs were rolling it out in large quantities so I can't say how frustrating it was, but suggesting SP3 created performance issues is just not right. Perhaps in some configurations, but I can say that it ran just as well on 160MB of RAM as SP2 did (and was quite usable on 512MB).
Thinkpad X220, the last true Thinkpad before Lenovo adopted chicklet-style keyboards.
WHY IBM WHY?
Thinkpad X220, the last true Thinkpad before Lenovo adopted chicklet-style keyboards.
WHY IBM WHY?
Oh no...they better not have joined the Dark Side! Any thinkpad should come with a proper keyboard and a trackpoint.
I'm currently using an Asus laptop which I am very, very happy with. Had it for close to 8 months now and no problems. i7 CPU @ 2.40GHz, 8GB RAM, came with a 750GB HDD which I swapped with a 250GB SSD. Gorgeous screen, too. Couldn't be happier with it.
I'm currently using an Asus laptop which I am very, very happy with. Had it for close to 8 months now and no problems. i7 CPU @ 2.40GHz, 8GB RAM, came with a 750GB HDD which I swapped with a 250GB SSD. Gorgeous screen, too. Couldn't be happier with it.
what model???
Performance-wise, zero difference, although in some cases the machine ran noticeably better with SP3.
I do know there were some headaches when ITs were rolling it out in large quantities so I can't say how frustrating it was, but suggesting SP3 created performance issues is just not right. Perhaps in some configurations, but I can say that it ran just as well on 160MB of RAM as SP2 did (and was quite usable on 512MB).
Only problem I ever had on that machine was that it wasn't fast enough to do online video.Thanks for proving my point.
I think you're forgetting that the computer I was talking about is 17 years old and has a 160Mhz processor and 80mb of ram. No matter what OS is on it it ain't gonna do Youtube. But it'll take care of just about anything else!Yes, you can get by on it, but in business, time is money. You have to know when to cut your losses.
I was personally surprised that XP SP3 would run so well on it, but it did! You can get by on XP with very little memory.
Thinkpad X220, the last true Thinkpad before Lenovo adopted chicklet-style keyboards.
WHY IBM WHY?
Oh no...they better not have joined the Dark Side! Any thinkpad should come with a proper keyboard and a trackpoint.Show Image(http://www.laptopreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/IMG_0611.jpg)
X220 on the left, X230 on the right. RIP in peace Thinkpad.
I think you're forgetting that the computer I was talking about is 17 years old and has a 160Mhz processor and 80mb of ram. No matter what OS is on it it ain't gonna do Youtube. But it'll take care of just about anything else!Yes, you can get by on it, but in business, time is money. You have to know when to cut your losses.
I was personally surprised that XP SP3 would run so well on it, but it did! You can get by on XP with very little memory.
By the way, you can find better computers for free. Check Craigslist, ask offices, watch street corners and curbs (I stick them at the curb and watch them disappear like magic). Heck, I throw away/recycle almost anything that I get from customers who upgrade that aren't dual core with 2gigs at this point. Anything over about 4 or 5 years old is just not worth the effort. I do sometimes use the older machines for file servers, but that's about it.
From my IT experience, I wouldn't say that SP3 is what really caused peoples' XP computers to slow down. It was usually other things like background processes, network security policies, too many user folders in the "Documents & Settings" directory, etc. Most of those issues were fixed by reimaging the machine or reinstalling Windows. It was my job to run IT on a shoestring budget, and we got pretty darn good performance out of stinky old Pentium 3's and Pentium 4's running XP SP3.True to some extent, but you still have far more data than when the OS came out.
ASUS N53JQ-XV1 (you can see it in the top right of my avatar)
Quad I7
16GB RAM
1TB Crucial SSD (2x512GB in RAID 0)
Dual 27 inch monitors
ESATA and more...
...and it's 3 YEARS OLD! Best computer I ever had by far. I wanted a mobile desktop replacement and I got it. $1000 well spent. Previously, I was having to purchase a new laptop (some of them Macbooks) every year, but not after getting this one.
I also have a Toshiba Z835-P360 that I use for short visits that don't require a lot of performance.
using x230, Will be opting for x240 once that comes out... it seems pretty solid with haswell n all.Show Image(http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/tuzki-bunnys/tuzki-bunny-emoticon-038.gif)
I never cared too much about user files-- I'd erase tham all when I reimaged the machines on the company fleet every year anyways. And now they don't show up at all ever since we started running this software called "Deep Freeze" that erases any new data written onto the hard disk at every restart during business hours--effectively keeping the computer on its original image. (updates are run overnight)From my IT experience, I wouldn't say that SP3 is what really caused peoples' XP computers to slow down. It was usually other things like background processes, network security policies, too many user folders in the "Documents & Settings" directory, etc. Most of those issues were fixed by reimaging the machine or reinstalling Windows. It was my job to run IT on a shoestring budget, and we got pretty darn good performance out of stinky old Pentium 3's and Pentium 4's running XP SP3.True to some extent, but you still have far more data than when the OS came out.
Also, in an IT department, you don;t really give a darn about a users files, it's a company computer. You do what you have to to keep them running smooth.
But Windows XP Service Pack 3 will run fine on just about anything newer than a 486. If you were having problems with computers being too slow, there was probably too much background crap running on the machines.That's the problem, they all want to retain the 20gigs in pictures and 10 gigs of Outlook files, along with HP scanner software (which is horrible in itself).
using x230, Will be opting for x240 once that comes out... it seems pretty solid with haswell n all.Show Image(http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/tuzki-bunnys/tuzki-bunny-emoticon-038.gif)
Really? I found out about the lack of external battery slice, and the fact that you can only have maximum of 8GB RAM (which looks like it is not easily changed) and I decided that I want to make sure I get an X230 before Lenovo stops selling them.
So, what kind of laptop do you use? Or if you often use multiple laptops, which one is your favorite?
I'll start with my laptop, a Compaq LTE 4/75CX. I use it for basic web browsing and word processing on the go.Show Image(http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mfelqRm7qefmn9jLnROkLeA.jpg)
using x230, Will be opting for x240 once that comes out... it seems pretty solid with haswell n all.Show Image(http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/tuzki-bunnys/tuzki-bunny-emoticon-038.gif)
Really? I found out about the lack of external battery slice, and the fact that you can only have maximum of 8GB RAM (which looks like it is not easily changed) and I decided that I want to make sure I get an X230 before Lenovo stops selling them.
well, those things arn't final..
But the slice battery might be unnecessary given Haswell because you'll already be looking at 8 hours of HEAVY use and 17+ hours of LIGHT use on the beefy 9cell.
using x230, Will be opting for x240 once that comes out... it seems pretty solid with haswell n all.Show Image(http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/tuzki-bunnys/tuzki-bunny-emoticon-038.gif)
Really? I found out about the lack of external battery slice, and the fact that you can only have maximum of 8GB RAM (which looks like it is not easily changed) and I decided that I want to make sure I get an X230 before Lenovo stops selling them.
well, those things arn't final..
But the slice battery might be unnecessary given Haswell because you'll already be looking at 8 hours of HEAVY use and 17+ hours of LIGHT use on the beefy 9cell.
Single channel DIMM is confirmed (maximum 8GB RAM) (http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x240/#techspecs), and no slice battery. In fact, the built in battery is a massive "no" for me, and the RAM is incredibly difficult to access (http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/x240_hmm_en_sp40a26001.pdf).
For what it's worth, I get this long (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4d04XSWECTI/UnZArq0QdWI/AAAAAAAAHo8/fdYjdRKpIZk/w255-h260-no/power.gif) out of my Ivy Bridge X230, which are real world figures. Although there are no real world figures yet on the X240, I'll assume that as in most cases, battery life will fall short of the quoted 17.4 hours Lenovo say it's capable of.
Needless to say, I'm very glad I got the X230 over the X240, there are way to many negatives for me with the X240.
edit: also, the true HD panels that have been mentioned in official Lenovo videos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGN6XtchXw8) seem to be mysteriously missing from the configuration options on the Lenovo website. This is really the only positive of the X240, and it's not even available on launch! Fail.
using x230, Will be opting for x240 once that comes out... it seems pretty solid with haswell n all.Show Image(http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/tuzki-bunnys/tuzki-bunny-emoticon-038.gif)
Really? I found out about the lack of external battery slice, and the fact that you can only have maximum of 8GB RAM (which looks like it is not easily changed) and I decided that I want to make sure I get an X230 before Lenovo stops selling them.
well, those things arn't final..
But the slice battery might be unnecessary given Haswell because you'll already be looking at 8 hours of HEAVY use and 17+ hours of LIGHT use on the beefy 9cell.
Single channel DIMM is confirmed (maximum 8GB RAM) (http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x240/#techspecs), and no slice battery. In fact, the built in battery is a massive "no" for me, and the RAM is incredibly difficult to access (http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/x240_hmm_en_sp40a26001.pdf).
For what it's worth, I get this long (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4d04XSWECTI/UnZArq0QdWI/AAAAAAAAHo8/fdYjdRKpIZk/w255-h260-no/power.gif) out of my Ivy Bridge X230, which are real world figures. Although there are no real world figures yet on the X240, I'll assume that as in most cases, battery life will fall short of the quoted 17.4 hours Lenovo say it's capable of.
Needless to say, I'm very glad I got the X230 over the X240, there are way to many negatives for me with the X240.
edit: also, the true HD panels that have been mentioned in official Lenovo videos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGN6XtchXw8) seem to be mysteriously missing from the configuration options on the Lenovo website. This is really the only positive of the X240, and it's not even available on launch! Fail.
dang... well I think I could work with the single channel memory.. as long as it's 1600mhz..
mmm.... well now it's a tough choice, cuz the surface pro 2 seems like a better gadget cuz it has the pen.... not gonna get both since I don't actually need either one.
Retina MacBook Pro
i7-3720QM Quad-core
16GB 1600 MHz
Nvidia GeForce GT 650M 1GB
512GB SSD
I like this thing a lot, mainly because of the insane resolution.
Currently waiting on a Lenovo Edge E440 to arrive, will give a write up on it once its here but here's the specs for the meantime!
Intel i3 4000m
8GB RAM
14” 1366x768
500GB HDD (replacing with 250GB SSD)
Only paid $630 shipped so I'm pretty happy overall, just wish it would arrive already!
I do agree, this thing gets HOT.Retina MacBook Pro
i7-3720QM Quad-core
16GB 1600 MHz
Nvidia GeForce GT 650M 1GB
512GB SSD
I like this thing a lot, mainly because of the insane resolution.
good hardware.. though I'm not a huge fan of the 90C load temp..
I mean.. benefit of the doubt given, since apple probably knows what they're doing w/ T-junc @ 105C... but that's really close...
Currently waiting on a Lenovo Edge E440 to arrive, will give a write up on it once its here but here's the specs for the meantime!
Intel i3 4000m
8GB RAM
14” 1366x768
500GB HDD (replacing with 250GB SSD)
Only paid $630 shipped so I'm pretty happy overall, just wish it would arrive already!
IMO the Len Edge series is by far the best looking non-bank-breaking laptops..
You need to get the bios unlocked so you can put in your own wifi card.. I recommend the new intel AC card..
Currently waiting on a Lenovo Edge E440 to arrive, will give a write up on it once its here but here's the specs for the meantime!
Intel i3 4000m
8GB RAM
14” 1366x768
500GB HDD (replacing with 250GB SSD)
Only paid $630 shipped so I'm pretty happy overall, just wish it would arrive already!
IMO the Len Edge series is by far the best looking non-bank-breaking laptops..
You need to get the bios unlocked so you can put in your own wifi card.. I recommend the new intel AC card..
Sager NP7330 (i7-4800MQ, 16GB ram, 256GB mssd, 64GB mssd, 750GB hd, GTX765 2GB ram). It does editing/encoding/gaming well enough. It does get a bit loud when the fan kicks in though. Runs flawlessly on Win8.
86 degrees C seems to be the highest temp. It would probably get a bit higher if I wasn't on a laptop cooler. The so-call max temp for the cpu is 100, so it seems safe enough. With a minimum load, it's around 53. The fan sounds aren't so bad for me, since I wear headphones most the time using it, but it's definitely not a classroom/library friendly set up.Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_089_02.gif)
Crazy mobile power... what's the cpu temp during encode.
86 degrees C seems to be the highest temp. It would probably get a bit higher if I wasn't on a laptop cooler. The so-call max temp for the cpu is 100, so it seems safe enough. With a minimum load, it's around 53. The fan sounds aren't so bad for me, since I wear headphones most the time using it, but it's definitely not a classroom/library friendly set up.Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_089_02.gif)
Crazy mobile power... what's the cpu temp during encode.
Hmm... i guess all the oems are pushing these close to max temp.
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-V7-482PG-6629-14-Inch-Touchscreen-Ultrabook/dp/B00F9VXQDI
Would prefer cheaper version with matte and no touch screen bit I think I might settle with this. Anybody recommend something else? Picked this for size, 750m, and 1080p at $950
Heh... dat cpu and keyboard. But its a bit thicker than I want it to be.http://www.amazon.com/Acer-V7-482PG-6629-14-Inch-Touchscreen-Ultrabook/dp/B00F9VXQDI
Would prefer cheaper version with matte and no touch screen bit I think I might settle with this. Anybody recommend something else? Picked this for size, 750m, and 1080p at $950
For that price I'd get a lenovo y410p.
Yeah, but it's not an Acer.Heh... dat cpu and keyboard. But its a bit thicker than I want it to be.http://www.amazon.com/Acer-V7-482PG-6629-14-Inch-Touchscreen-Ultrabook/dp/B00F9VXQDI
Would prefer cheaper version with matte and no touch screen bit I think I might settle with this. Anybody recommend something else? Picked this for size, 750m, and 1080p at $950
For that price I'd get a lenovo y410p.
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-V7-482PG-6629-14-Inch-Touchscreen-Ultrabook/dp/B00F9VXQDI
Would prefer cheaper version with matte and no touch screen bit I think I might settle with this. Anybody recommend something else? Picked this for size, 750m, and 1080p at $950
For that price I'd get a lenovo y410p.
I haven't had much luck with Toshibas...
Actually got my Lenovo Edge E440 on Tuesday afternoon, very happy with it overall! Getting about 7 hours out of a charge and it seems very snappy even with a normal hard drive. Should scream along once I replace it with an SSD.
Actually got my Lenovo Edge E440 on Tuesday afternoon, very happy with it overall! Getting about 7 hours out of a charge and it seems very snappy even with a normal hard drive. Should scream along once I replace it with an SSD.
Very cool, hopefully you have better luck with it than your past machines! The sell of Thinkpads for me was their durability/reliability - tough as nails laptops that can really take a beating. Hopefully this spills over to the Edge line (I'm not familiar with it), though I should hope it does.
Actually got my Lenovo Edge E440 on Tuesday afternoon, very happy with it overall! Getting about 7 hours out of a charge and it seems very snappy even with a normal hard drive. Should scream along once I replace it with an SSD.
Very cool, hopefully you have better luck with it than your past machines! The sell of Thinkpads for me was their durability/reliability - tough as nails laptops that can really take a beating. Hopefully this spills over to the Edge line (I'm not familiar with it), though I should hope it does.
No rollcage.
Just got a 13" Retina MBP w/ 256ssd and 16gb mem from work for my secondary computer.
My aunt in law has a thinkpad and this girl at my tattoo shop has one too! They look nice :)
My aunt in law has a thinkpad and this girl at my tattoo shop has one too! They look nice :)
what? what off wall references... LOL
Mine is still going strong. After about 20 years only the battery is dead.I haven't had much luck with Toshibas...
Me neither, actually had 3 of them come through my hands in the last year from friends with a variety of different hardware issues. Can't in good conscience recommend them anymore.
Mine is going on it's 4th year and I see no reason to upgrade. Plus, I really like having ESATA for data recovery or drive imaging. I haven't seen many new laptops with ESATA.
Mannnnnnnnn I want a Thinkpad w i7 so bad! Are they really that great? So tempting!!!!
Mannnnnnnnn I want a Thinkpad w i7 so bad! Are they really that great? So tempting!!!!
not all i7s are great.. the ulv ones are slowwwwwwwwwww....
Mannnnnnnnn I want a Thinkpad w i7 so bad! Are they really that great? So tempting!!!!
not all i7s are great.. the ulv ones are slowwwwwwwwwww....
Oh really? sorry but which ones to look out for? is that a part number? dont know too much about processors just ghz
Mannnnnnnnn I want a Thinkpad w i7 so bad! Are they really that great? So tempting!!!!
not all i7s are great.. the ulv ones are slowwwwwwwwwww....
Oh really? sorry but which ones to look out for? is that a part number? dont know too much about processors just ghz
if it's labeled i3/i5/i7 and it 's less than 2.0ghz.. they suck..
They might even lie on the box and write something like 3ghz turbo or something...
regardless ulv processors are terribad... They choke quite often.. even on firefox.
memory bandwidth is tied to freqency as well, which means, the computer as a whole is much less responsive.
Mannnnnnnnn I want a Thinkpad w i7 so bad! Are they really that great? So tempting!!!!
not all i7s are great.. the ulv ones are slowwwwwwwwwww....
Oh really? sorry but which ones to look out for? is that a part number? dont know too much about processors just ghz
if it's labeled i3/i5/i7 and it 's less than 2.0ghz.. they suck..
They might even lie on the box and write something like 3ghz turbo or something...
regardless ulv processors are terribad... They choke quite often.. even on firefox.
memory bandwidth is tied to freqency as well, which means, the computer as a whole is much less responsive.
Oh ok cool! I don't look at anything under 3.4ghz
Mannnnnnnnn I want a Thinkpad w i7 so bad! Are they really that great? So tempting!!!!
not all i7s are great.. the ulv ones are slowwwwwwwwwww....
Oh really? sorry but which ones to look out for? is that a part number? dont know too much about processors just ghz
if it's labeled i3/i5/i7 and it 's less than 2.0ghz.. they suck..
They might even lie on the box and write something like 3ghz turbo or something...
regardless ulv processors are terribad... They choke quite often.. even on firefox.
memory bandwidth is tied to freqency as well, which means, the computer as a whole is much less responsive.
Oh ok cool! I don't look at anything under 3.4ghz
Also skip anything AMD CPU on mobile
nvidia and intel are better on power use relative to performance.
Mannnnnnnnn I want a Thinkpad w i7 so bad! Are they really that great? So tempting!!!!
not all i7s are great.. the ulv ones are slowwwwwwwwwww....
Mannnnnnnnn I want a Thinkpad w i7 so bad! Are they really that great? So tempting!!!!
not all i7s are great.. the ulv ones are slowwwwwwwwwww....
Depends what you use the machine for. Some people will take 13 hours of battery life over a faster CPU.
Mannnnnnnnn I want a Thinkpad w i7 so bad! Are they really that great? So tempting!!!!
not all i7s are great.. the ulv ones are slowwwwwwwwwww....
Depends what you use the machine for. Some people will take 13 hours of battery life over a faster CPU.
Mannnnnnnnn I want a Thinkpad w i7 so bad! Are they really that great? So tempting!!!!
not all i7s are great.. the ulv ones are slowwwwwwwwwww....
Depends what you use the machine for. Some people will take 13 hours of battery life over a faster CPU.
Mannnnnnnnn I want a Thinkpad w i7 so bad! Are they really that great? So tempting!!!!
not all i7s are great.. the ulv ones are slowwwwwwwwwww....
Depends what you use the machine for. Some people will take 13 hours of battery life over a faster CPU.
I'm in the battery life camp personally. I mostly use my laptop for coding so 90% of the time my CPU is sitting at like 5% usage.
Mannnnnnnnn I want a Thinkpad w i7 so bad! Are they really that great? So tempting!!!!
not all i7s are great.. the ulv ones are slowwwwwwwwwww....
Depends what you use the machine for. Some people will take 13 hours of battery life over a faster CPU.
I'm in the battery life camp personally. I mostly use my laptop for coding so 90% of the time my CPU is sitting at like 5% usage.
then battery life doesn't really even apply to you..
you're gonna code, "outside" @ starbux for 9 hours?
That doesn't make sense..
Mannnnnnnnn I want a Thinkpad w i7 so bad! Are they really that great? So tempting!!!!
not all i7s are great.. the ulv ones are slowwwwwwwwwww....
Depends what you use the machine for. Some people will take 13 hours of battery life over a faster CPU.
I'm in the battery life camp personally. I mostly use my laptop for coding so 90% of the time my CPU is sitting at like 5% usage.
and faster CPU is not inversely proportional to battery life...
it CAN drain battery quicker, but with power-gating... it does not, if you're just doing what you said, coding.
my ThinkPad X230 can get this much battery life and it doesn't use an "ultrabook" i7 CPUShow Image(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4d04XSWECTI/UnZArq0QdWI/AAAAAAAAHo8/fdYjdRKpIZk/w255-h260-no/power.gif)
it is also still very much a portable machine, even with the slice battery attached. of course, what you're comfortable with carrying around in a backpack is a personal thing. I personally don't care if my laptop is thicker than my phone. some people do, weirdly. For you people, an Ultrabook is an ok choice.
my ThinkPad X230 can get this much battery life and it doesn't use an "ultrabook" i7 CPUShow Image(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4d04XSWECTI/UnZArq0QdWI/AAAAAAAAHo8/fdYjdRKpIZk/w255-h260-no/power.gif)
it is also still very much a portable machine, even with the slice battery attached. of course, what you're comfortable with carrying around in a backpack is a personal thing. I personally don't care if my laptop is thicker than my phone. some people do, weirdly. For you people, an Ultrabook is an ok choice.
that number's a lie and u know it.. my experience with x230 14 hours tops with both batteries.
maybe a little.... more with undervolting..
my ThinkPad X230 can get this much battery life and it doesn't use an "ultrabook" i7 CPUShow Image(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4d04XSWECTI/UnZArq0QdWI/AAAAAAAAHo8/fdYjdRKpIZk/w255-h260-no/power.gif)
it is also still very much a portable machine, even with the slice battery attached. of course, what you're comfortable with carrying around in a backpack is a personal thing. I personally don't care if my laptop is thicker than my phone. some people do, weirdly. For you people, an Ultrabook is an ok choice.
that number's a lie and u know it.. my experience with x230 14 hours tops with both batteries.
maybe a little.... more with undervolting..
that number is not a lie, and you're a fail troll.
my ThinkPad X230 can get this much battery life and it doesn't use an "ultrabook" i7 CPUShow Image(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4d04XSWECTI/UnZArq0QdWI/AAAAAAAAHo8/fdYjdRKpIZk/w255-h260-no/power.gif)
it is also still very much a portable machine, even with the slice battery attached. of course, what you're comfortable with carrying around in a backpack is a personal thing. I personally don't care if my laptop is thicker than my phone. some people do, weirdly. For you people, an Ultrabook is an ok choice.
that number's a lie and u know it.. my experience with x230 14 hours tops with both batteries.
maybe a little.... more with undervolting..
that number is not a lie, and you're a fail troll.
Consider your post count, now consider his.
Consider your accusation, now back to his.
(i.e. stop barking)
my ThinkPad X230 can get this much battery life and it doesn't use an "ultrabook" i7 CPUShow Image(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4d04XSWECTI/UnZArq0QdWI/AAAAAAAAHo8/fdYjdRKpIZk/w255-h260-no/power.gif)
it is also still very much a portable machine, even with the slice battery attached. of course, what you're comfortable with carrying around in a backpack is a personal thing. I personally don't care if my laptop is thicker than my phone. some people do, weirdly. For you people, an Ultrabook is an ok choice.
that number's a lie and u know it.. my experience with x230 14 hours tops with both batteries.
maybe a little.... more with undervolting..
that number is not a lie, and you're a fail troll.
Consider your post count, now consider his.
Consider your accusation, now back to his.
(i.e. stop barking)
tenure has absolutely bugger all to do with whether someone is trolling or not.
So around here, in your opinion, your post count means that you have more legitimacy?
my ThinkPad X230 can get this much battery life and it doesn't use an "ultrabook" i7 CPUShow Image(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4d04XSWECTI/UnZArq0QdWI/AAAAAAAAHo8/fdYjdRKpIZk/w255-h260-no/power.gif)
it is also still very much a portable machine, even with the slice battery attached. of course, what you're comfortable with carrying around in a backpack is a personal thing. I personally don't care if my laptop is thicker than my phone. some people do, weirdly. For you people, an Ultrabook is an ok choice.
that number's a lie and u know it.. my experience with x230 14 hours tops with both batteries.
maybe a little.... more with undervolting..
that number is not a lie, and you're a fail troll.
Consider your post count, now consider his.
Consider your accusation, now back to his.
(i.e. stop barking)
tenure has absolutely bugger all to do with whether someone is trolling or not.
So around here, in your opinion, your post count means that you have more legitimacy?
my ThinkPad X230 can get this much battery life and it doesn't use an "ultrabook" i7 CPUShow Image(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4d04XSWECTI/UnZArq0QdWI/AAAAAAAAHo8/fdYjdRKpIZk/w255-h260-no/power.gif)
it is also still very much a portable machine, even with the slice battery attached. of course, what you're comfortable with carrying around in a backpack is a personal thing. I personally don't care if my laptop is thicker than my phone. some people do, weirdly. For you people, an Ultrabook is an ok choice.
that number's a lie and u know it.. my experience with x230 14 hours tops with both batteries.
maybe a little.... more with undervolting..
that number is not a lie, and you're a fail troll.
Consider your post count, now consider his.
Consider your accusation, now back to his.
(i.e. stop barking)
tenure has absolutely bugger all to do with whether someone is trolling or not.
So around here, in your opinion, your post count means that you have more legitimacy?
You're embarrassing yourself. I thought it was obvious that I was being sarcastic, but I suppose it went over your head.
If you look over what you posted, you might realize that tp was making an observation about battery life, and on the likelihood that something was an exaggeration. You, on the other hand, flew off the handle and made a pretty poor excuse of a comeback.
ULV processors of late have been sort of a joke or a godsend.
Most of the time, processors are idled down, at which point the differences are FAR more minor. A modern desktop I7 can idle down almost as far as an Atom, so where is the real benefit? This is what many people don't get.
Yes, when under load the I7 will use more power, but on a process that has an end point, like compiling video, the I7 will crunch it and then idle back down. Meanwhile the Atom will sit crunching for hours at full power. Because of this, the I7 can actually run more efficient over that length of time. HOWEVER, for something like just viewing web pages, the Atom can actually win, because it can sit at a lower rate the entire time as it has finer stepping.
For this reason, if you need the power, a normal processor can actually have better battery life.
As for the argument above, CHILL.
ULV processors of late have been sort of a joke or a godsend.
Most of the time, processors are idled down, at which point the differences are FAR more minor. A modern desktop I7 can idle down almost as far as an Atom, so where is the real benefit? This is what many people don't get.
Yes, when under load the I7 will use more power, but on a process that has an end point, like compiling video, the I7 will crunch it and then idle back down. Meanwhile the Atom will sit crunching for hours at full power. Because of this, the I7 can actually run more efficient over that length of time. HOWEVER, for something like just viewing web pages, the Atom can actually win, because it can sit at a lower rate the entire time as it has finer stepping.
For this reason, if you need the power, a normal processor can actually have better battery life.
As for the argument above, CHILL.
Atom? Do Ultrabooks have Atoms in them these days?I was just using it as an example of how distorted peoples ideas are about processors and battery life.
I 100% get that the new CPU's can crank themselves down but it still doesn't make want an i7 any more. My i3 never shows any signs of slow-down so I don't see the point in throwing more money at it just so I have an e-peen.
Atom? Do Ultrabooks have Atoms in them these days?I was just using it as an example of how distorted peoples ideas are about processors and battery life.
Best way to really see, is to compare the processors idle wattage, that is where the magic actually is. I'll lose a watt at idle happily for a whole lot more computing power at the top end when I need it.
Ultrabooks, in order to be called an Ultrabook, are supposed to have an SSD and a CULV or SIP I5 or I7 processor. I don't think the I3 even qualifies, much less an Atom.
Very true, that applies to normal laptops as well. Too many think a laptop is intended for use as a desktop/workstation, and frankly, most are only meant for short bursts of full power, not long term full power. The heatsinks are simply not built for it.Atom? Do Ultrabooks have Atoms in them these days?I was just using it as an example of how distorted peoples ideas are about processors and battery life.
Best way to really see, is to compare the processors idle wattage, that is where the magic actually is. I'll lose a watt at idle happily for a whole lot more computing power at the top end when I need it.
Ultrabooks, in order to be called an Ultrabook, are supposed to have an SSD and a CULV or SIP I5 or I7 processor. I don't think the I3 even qualifies, much less an Atom.
just to clarify some more about the ultrabook spec requirements, the reason they pick cpus with those performance characteristics is because of cooling requirements, there MUST be a cap on performance or your ub will just shutdown.
if you're doing professional video editing, get a proper machine.
Very true, that applies to normal laptops as well. Too many think a laptop is intended for use as a desktop/workstation, and frankly, most are only meant for short bursts of full power, not long term full power. The heatsinks are simply not built for it.Atom? Do Ultrabooks have Atoms in them these days?I was just using it as an example of how distorted peoples ideas are about processors and battery life.
Best way to really see, is to compare the processors idle wattage, that is where the magic actually is. I'll lose a watt at idle happily for a whole lot more computing power at the top end when I need it.
Ultrabooks, in order to be called an Ultrabook, are supposed to have an SSD and a CULV or SIP I5 or I7 processor. I don't think the I3 even qualifies, much less an Atom.
just to clarify some more about the ultrabook spec requirements, the reason they pick cpus with those performance characteristics is because of cooling requirements, there MUST be a cap on performance or your ub will just shutdown.
if you're doing professional video editing, get a proper machine.
Lenovo x200 13 inch running ubuntu cuz I couldn't stand Windows 8.
I think I'll re-install windows 8.1
The built in wireless on this thing is dying though.
Ugh.
Lenovos :/
My housemate has a Lenovo B58 in which the wireless was barely functional when she got it. Ridiculous.
Lenovo x200 13 inch running ubuntu cuz I couldn't stand Windows 8.
I think I'll re-install windows 8.1
The built in wireless on this thing is dying though.
Ugh.
Lenovos :/
My housemate has a Lenovo B58 in which the wireless was barely functional when she got it. Ridiculous.
Speaking of custom bios, I had to use a CTRL-FN BIOS switch mod because the keyboard placement (FN key then Ctrl Key) was bugging the crap outta me.
Speaking of custom bios, I had to use a CTRL-FN BIOS switch mod because the keyboard placement (FN key then Ctrl Key) was bugging the crap outta me.
on Lenovo ThinkPads, you don't need to mod the BIOS to do that - the option is there in the stock BIOS
Speaking of custom bios, I had to use a CTRL-FN BIOS switch mod because the keyboard placement (FN key then Ctrl Key) was bugging the crap outta me.
on Lenovo ThinkPads, you don't need to mod the BIOS to do that - the option is there in the stock BIOS
Not ALL of the original thinkpads had the swap feature.. all new ones do
Macbook pro ftw (comming for a long years of windows user)