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Title: QFR with Blacks or TK with browns?
Post by: DamnDan on Mon, 23 September 2013, 11:28:31
Hello there :)

After happily clacking away on my Dell AT101W i decided that i need something for my home use as well. As i am living in a place where mechanical keyboards are not a big thing and getting one which is high quality is an issue, I narrowed my choices to QFR with Blacks and TK with Browns.

My question is (it may be a bit silly, brace yourselves): After using Black ALPS for almost half a year, which is a better option in your opinion?

I really have no way of trying and testing them both prior purchase, so I am yet again reaching out to your knowledge and experience in this topic :(

I fear that browns will be too big of a jump from hard ALPS to light springs that browns have, and would not like to go through the pain of returning item back to seller :P

Help a fellow geek decide ;-)
Title: Re: QFR with Blacks or TK with browns?
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 23 September 2013, 17:09:43
I am not familiar with black Alps, but QFR with MX blacks roxors! (using one to type this)
Title: Re: QFR with Blacks or TK with browns?
Post by: do_Og@n on Mon, 23 September 2013, 17:26:05
I've used the Black ALPS and if you are looking for an easier transfer from them to an MX switch I would suggest the QFR w/blacks. Blacks are linear and stiff (almost as stiff as Black ALPS) but move smoother.

Personally I would think if you moved to a Brown switch it would take longer to get used too. Good Luck!
Title: Re: QFR with Blacks or TK with browns?
Post by: Tony on Tue, 24 September 2013, 00:41:12
QFR Black is like Dell without the bump (60g)
TK brown is like Dell with a lighter bump (45g)

You decide.
Title: Re: QFR with Blacks or TK with browns?
Post by: DamnDan on Tue, 24 September 2013, 02:41:02
I'm going with QFR blacks then :) Thanks guys :) I am probably going to miss out on the whole LED mod thingie but hell with it :P I simply like harder switches :)

Thanks ALOT guys :)

Probably will buy TK some day anyway :P

THANKS!
Title: Re: QFR with Blacks or TK with browns?
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 24 September 2013, 19:21:31
Quote from: DamnDan on Tue, 24 September 2013, 02:41:02
I'm going with QFR blacks then :) Thanks guys :) I am probably going to miss out on the whole LED mod thingie but hell with it :P I simply like harder switches :)

Thanks ALOT guys :)

Probably will buy TK some day anyway :P

THANKS!

Let us know what you think of it once you have been using it for a week or so.  First impressions are also nice :)
Title: Re: QFR with Blacks or TK with browns?
Post by: Gunni on Tue, 24 September 2013, 19:27:07
Nooo, I wanted a TK Brown Buddy D: Oh well.

Hope you like your QFR!
Title: Re: QFR with Blacks or TK with browns?
Post by: Fragil1ty on Wed, 25 September 2013, 10:46:28
Quote from: DamnDan on Mon, 23 September 2013, 11:28:31
Hello there :)

After happily clacking away on my Dell AT101W i decided that i need something for my home use as well. As i am living in a place where mechanical keyboards are not a big thing and getting one which is high quality is an issue, I narrowed my choices to QFR with Blacks and TK with Browns.

My question is (it may be a bit silly, brace yourselves): After using Black ALPS for almost half a year, which is a better option in your opinion?

I really have no way of trying and testing them both prior purchase, so I am yet again reaching out to your knowledge and experience in this topic :(

I fear that browns will be too big of a jump from hard ALPS to light springs that browns have, and would not like to go through the pain of returning item back to seller :P

Help a fellow geek decide ;-)

I'm using MX Blacks on the Keycool 84 and I would not advise it in my opinion what so ever, I have never used browns but they're suppose to be the 'sweet spot', but I cannot verify that I'm afraid.
Title: Re: QFR with Blacks or TK with browns?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 September 2013, 10:47:52
I definitely wouldve voted for a QFR with Blacks as well.
Title: Re: QFR with Blacks or TK with browns?
Post by: ITzNybble on Wed, 25 September 2013, 11:01:20
QFR with greens!
Title: Re: QFR with Blacks or TK with browns?
Post by: gh_pp on Sat, 28 September 2013, 03:36:16
I'd have to agree with Tony.

I have both dell at101 & QFR brown and I think dell is closer to brown than black.

Dell's a bit noisy (but not clicky like blue), actuation force is between brown and black and it definitely have a tactile bump like brown (unlike black).

Both Dell & Brown are pretty light so you won't get tired easily but also easier to accidentally activate if you are not careful when typing fast.
Title: Re: QFR with Blacks or TK with browns?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 28 September 2013, 04:05:54
Ergodox with W/E

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FL9N1UM9bUc/TdU2hs-441I/AAAAAAAADhQ/CLz2s46pnSo/s1600/tuzki01.gif)
Title: Re: QFR with Blacks or TK with browns?
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 28 September 2013, 04:49:02
Why not try to get another Dell AT101W?
Title: Re: QFR with Blacks or TK with browns?
Post by: DamnDan on Fri, 22 November 2013, 08:22:37
Thanks for all of the comments guys ;-)

I said to myself, why on earth shouldn't I try another switch that i don't know :) I went with MX Browns :)

I made a quick auciton search and found QFR Ultimate with MX Browns, and bought it immediately ^^

Here it is, next to new mouse fitting the theme :)

(http://i.imgur.com/0OzZD3Z.jpg)

Took it to work, cause I wanted to test the switches with long typing. I must say that I fell in love with MX Browns ^^


Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 28 September 2013, 04:49:02
Why not try to get another Dell AT101W?

Cause getting one in Poland is a miracle ;p I found mine and didn't see one in here again :P

To all of you wanting to switch to MX from ALPS - Go for it :) My friend bought G80-1800 with Blacks, I use MX Browns and i must say that these switches do not differ greately in terms of strenght from what ALPS have to offer :)

Thanks again to all of you :) And now, it is time to spend money on some caps xD
Title: Re: QFR with Blacks or TK with browns?
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Fri, 22 November 2013, 18:45:15
I really like that wrist rest.
Title: Re: QFR with Blacks or TK with browns?
Post by: terran5992 on Fri, 22 November 2013, 21:29:49
Quote from: DamnDan on Fri, 22 November 2013, 08:22:37
Thanks for all of the comments guys ;-)

I said to myself, why on earth shouldn't I try another switch that i don't know :) I went with MX Browns :)

I made a quick auciton search and found QFR Ultimate with MX Browns, and bought it immediately ^^

Here it is, next to new mouse fitting the theme :)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0OzZD3Z.jpg)


Took it to work, cause I wanted to test the switches with long typing. I must say that I fell in love with MX Browns ^^


Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 28 September 2013, 04:49:02
Why not try to get another Dell AT101W?

Cause getting one in Poland is a miracle ;p I found mine and didn't see one in here again :P

To all of you wanting to switch to MX from ALPS - Go for it :) My friend bought G80-1800 with Blacks, I use MX Browns and i must say that these switches do not differ greately in terms of strenght from what ALPS have to offer :)

Thanks again to all of you :) And now, it is time to spend money on some caps xD


Good choice. Browns are excellent for typing
Title: Re: QFR with Blacks or TK with browns?
Post by: Tony on Sat, 23 November 2013, 04:53:28
Good decision. Brown is always a safe bet, and I prefer brown at work and at home.

Coming from Dell AT101w, you have to learn to type lighter with the right force, just enough to register. I mean, your fingers can dance on the keyboards instead of punching the keys.