I wonder if it might just be fatigue.
Stop speed typing - just work at a comfortable rate. How long have you been doing the fencing?
Experiences vary, but pain, discomfort and strange tingly sensations are common symptoms of RSI.
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I wonder if it might just be fatigue.
Stop speed typing - just work at a comfortable rate. How long have you been doing the fencing?
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I just like doing speed typing as a major hobby, but if I should limit that for my health, I will certainly do that. I've been fencing for a little over 2 1/2 years, but I do it usually four times a week, which contributes. Bad self-diagnosing aside, my fingers are usually very uncomfortable now when I speed type, sometimes the muscle between the thumb/index finger an inch or so back starts feeling rather painful and stiff, even while I'm not typing or anything similar.
@tp4tissue
If you were able to look at my location, it's Houston, Texas. However, I was wrong in assuming that you would know where that was. Here the temperature ranges from 61-82 F. When people are so sore at being talked to directly that they start stalking your threads, it becomes a problem.
More likely you have RSI. but only a doctor can say that. But what you describe pretty much can be that. Is it in both hands?
I left this post to you in another topic. Here it's reposted
Try this stretch exercises.
1) take your right hand and straighten it, make it all straight with your arm, pointing fingers forward, palm down.
2) move your wrist down (fingers straight to the palm, pointing down), stretching all you can (you will fill it in the TOP of your wrist), and use your left hand to help you stretch, pull it towards you as far as pain lets you for 3 seconds (it may hurt little).
3) straighten your palm to position (1) for 2 seconds.
4) Repeat 10 times.
5) Repeat the 4 steps but for pressing your wrist UP (flex your wrist up, pulling towards you)
6) Repeat the 4 steps, but the 1st position is palm up, and flex your wrist down (Similar to step 5, but pointing down)
Do this before typing and you will see how incredibly it will hurt less. Do this stretching each time you sit on the computer until pain is all gone (it also helps prevent Carpal tunnel!)
Do not worry, but the sooner you attend this issue, the better. RSI and Carpal Tunnel are caused by tons of things, not only typing (it's more commonly caused by the mouse, BTW). You are now looking for ergonomics, and that's a good thing. Remember your posture is more important than the keyboard! (Saying this is heresy here on GH, BTW)
Hang in there, quite a few of us have RSI and keep posting.
While you're waiting to see the specialist, start to make a list of all the things that you could do that might help - and do at least one.
Some ideas you might want to consider -
rest break software
text expansion software
start using the mouse with left hand until you are comfortable and then swap every few days
consider changing to another layout - it'll mess you up for a while, but it'll be more comfortable
have a computer and fencing free evening each week
Sounds like fatigue to me.
Muscles gain strength with use only to a certain point. After that point they become overworked, weaker and less responsive.
I'd say that to stop any further injury, don't push your typing speed so much.
you're gonna hate this, but you may also want to start considering an ergonomic keyboard with a matrix layout, like the ergodox...
taking it slower would probably be better for my hands, right?
Ack, deleted my entire post. In summary, the advice is quite helpful, although I think that you overanalyze some parts. Diet really doesn't affect the strain on your muscles for sure. Adjusting balance should help a lot, so thank you; my parents know many people in herbal medicine so help shouldn't be too difficult to find, and I'll know where to find it if the brace doesn't help. Thanks for the advice!
Ack, deleted my entire post. In summary, the advice is quite helpful, although I think that you overanalyze some parts. Diet really doesn't affect the strain on your muscles for sure. Adjusting balance should help a lot, so thank you; my parents know many people in herbal medicine so help shouldn't be too difficult to find, and I'll know where to find it if the brace doesn't help. Thanks for the advice!
Diet can help your muscles, that's a fact. BUT I would not trust voodoo and herbal medicine more than what a "real" doctor says
Ack, deleted my entire post. In summary, the advice is quite helpful, although I think that you overanalyze some parts. Diet really doesn't affect the strain on your muscles for sure. Adjusting balance should help a lot, so thank you; my parents know many people in herbal medicine so help shouldn't be too difficult to find, and I'll know where to find it if the brace doesn't help. Thanks for the advice!
Diet can help your muscles, that's a fact. BUT I would not trust voodoo and herbal medicine more than what a "real" doctor says
I'd say that to stop any further injury, don't push your typing speed so much.
you're gonna hate this, but you may also want to start considering an ergonomic keyboard with a matrix layout, like the ergodox...
Wouldn't it be more one or the other? I think that the problem might be because I push typing speed too quickly; I'm up to over 140 at maximum nine months after starting Dvorak, and taking it slower would probably be better for my hands, right?
I also am a high-schooler, without much mnoey; I doubt that I could afford the ErgoDox, perhaps the TECK at most. I'd consider the ErgoDox, just tp4's stupidity has turned me off of the idea.
Most of the guys who blindly assume that we have good diet/food available here are blind wrong. I have seen how our body starves for 'real' food. Check european food or non-radiated Asian food (may contain pesticides but no GM). They still have some nutrients remaining in their fruits and vegetables since they still support local farming and grow on real 'soil' containing real nutrients.
Most of the guys who blindly assume that we have good diet/food available here are blind wrong. I have seen how our body starves for 'real' food. Check european food or non-radiated Asian food (may contain pesticides but no GM). They still have some nutrients remaining in their fruits and vegetables since they still support local farming and grow on real 'soil' containing real nutrients.
Would you be so kind and stop with the religious anti-GMO propaganda, please? Sure, 'murrican agriculture is in terrible shape (blame Monsanto and not only them); processed food is bad, 'mkay... However, there's nothing wrong with GMO, obviously except some ways to use it. It's the same issue as e.g. nuclear power, .
On-topic: Try to go with rhythm typing instead of breaking records. It's quite fun, and definitely not so fatiguing.
Most of the guys who blindly assume that we have good diet/food available here are blind wrong. I have seen how our body starves for 'real' food. Check european food or non-radiated Asian food (may contain pesticides but no GM). They still have some nutrients remaining in their fruits and vegetables since they still support local farming and grow on real 'soil' containing real nutrients.
Would you be so kind and stop with the religious anti-GMO propaganda, please? Sure, 'murrican agriculture is in terrible shape (blame Monsanto and not only them); processed food is bad, 'mkay... However, there's nothing wrong with GMO, obviously except some ways to use it. It's the same issue as e.g. nuclear power, .
On-topic: Try to go with rhythm typing instead of breaking records. It's quite fun, and definitely not so fatiguing.
Most of the guys who blindly assume that we have good diet/food available here are blind wrong. I have seen how our body starves for 'real' food. Check european food or non-radiated Asian food (may contain pesticides but no GM). They still have some nutrients remaining in their fruits and vegetables since they still support local farming and grow on real 'soil' containing real nutrients.
Would you be so kind and stop with the religious anti-GMO propaganda, please? Sure, 'murrican agriculture is in terrible shape (blame Monsanto and not only them); processed food is bad, 'mkay... However, there's nothing wrong with GMO, obviously except some ways to use it. It's the same issue as e.g. nuclear power, .
On-topic: Try to go with rhythm typing instead of breaking records. It's quite fun, and definitely not so fatiguing.
**** GMO, better let people starve. Opposing such things is pure idiocracy
Take your hipster ass back to the organic food department and ***** about additives in food.
I also am a high-schooler, without much mnoey; I doubt that I could afford the ErgoDox, perhaps the TECK at most. I'd consider the ErgoDox, just tp4's stupidity has turned me off of the idea.
Most of the guys who blindly assume that we have good diet/food available here are blind wrong. I have seen how our body starves for 'real' food. Check european food or non-radiated Asian food (may contain pesticides but no GM). They still have some nutrients remaining in their fruits and vegetables since they still support local farming and grow on real 'soil' containing real nutrients.
Would you be so kind and stop with the religious anti-GMO propaganda, please? Sure, 'murrican agriculture is in terrible shape (blame Monsanto and not only them); processed food is bad, 'mkay... However, there's nothing wrong with GMO, obviously except some ways to use it. It's the same issue as e.g. nuclear power, .
On-topic: Try to go with rhythm typing instead of breaking records. It's quite fun, and definitely not so fatiguing.Most of the guys who blindly assume that we have good diet/food available here are blind wrong. I have seen how our body starves for 'real' food. Check european food or non-radiated Asian food (may contain pesticides but no GM). They still have some nutrients remaining in their fruits and vegetables since they still support local farming and grow on real 'soil' containing real nutrients.
Would you be so kind and stop with the religious anti-GMO propaganda, please? Sure, 'murrican agriculture is in terrible shape (blame Monsanto and not only them); processed food is bad, 'mkay... However, there's nothing wrong with GMO, obviously except some ways to use it. It's the same issue as e.g. nuclear power, .
On-topic: Try to go with rhythm typing instead of breaking records. It's quite fun, and definitely not so fatiguing.
**** GMO, better let people starve. Opposing such things is pure idiocracy
Take your hipster ass back to the organic food department and ***** about additives in food.
Guys... Cool down.
OK. This topic is is on the OP. Not me/my views OR yours for that matter.
Before you read any further understand that there may be people raised in other countries and raised in completely different background/era/age/wisdom/stupidity/intelligence and their views may be wrong OR can some of those be right?
I know GMO is not bad, since it is marketed by 'Mericans and since the experts have been telling me, so IS high fructose corn syrup. I also know that half of worlds population would starve to death if there was no GMO. Actually pre GMO the people were starving and after that they are just dumping surplus food. I don't really understand why of all people, 'Mericans (native as well as naturalized) always obsess about starvation and food; was it a past history... great depression... hunger or the general greed that leads to this thinking. Well not my problem, what each want to do upto his own.
Hipster ass... Did you accidentally hit enter before thinking? I dont want to take offense but I see what few lines does to a man. Cant take some contrary opinion?
I dont mind the Internet racists & blind idealists, I knew they would come out. Would people have similar views if we replace GM foods with GM pets and they asked to keep/own/raise one? Dont worry, future event, preview trailer is available now. We will also include GM people and clones for free (in the pipeline).
This would be my LAST reply on this thread. Let people stay in ignorance. Anything different from mainstream is becoming a religious propaganda and hipster view. I would rather not waste my time.
Most people would rather die than think... - Bertrand Russell
I don't think you're thinking this thru on a global scale and just because your supermarket is fully stocked doesn't mean rest of the worlds is. Different views become propaganda when the cons outweigh the pros. You wouldn't stab yourself in the face would you?Are you insinuating that he's preventing other people from eating because he's trying to eat healthy?
I don't think you're thinking this thru on a global scale and just because your supermarket is fully stocked doesn't mean rest of the worlds is. Different views become propaganda when the cons outweigh the pros. You wouldn't stab yourself in the face would you?Are you insinuating that he's preventing other people from eating because he's trying to eat healthy?
This is the nice way of saying it -
I think Proword had a good point. I know you are justifiably proud of your wpm - it's far higher than mine, he was trying to lead you in another direction that would enable you to keep up the same rate of _input_ without crippling yourself. Please don't feel affronted, but I think you should take a moment and think it through.
I've gone through that transition myself. To be fair, it wasn't easy, but the alternative was to give up my programming career (which I love) and just flit between jobs when I'm able to work, for less money, and for jobs that wouldn't be as interesting.
This is the harsh way of saying it -
In a few years, when you can't type on a computer without wincing in pain, what will your current wpm be worth to you?
Surgery may help, but if you go straight back to doing exactly what caused this without changing anything, it isn't going to take you long to be back in this position.
It might not sound like it, but I'm trying to help.
You don't have to listen.
I don't think you're thinking this thru on a global scale and just because your supermarket is fully stocked doesn't mean rest of the worlds is. Different views become propaganda when the cons outweigh the pros. You wouldn't stab yourself in the face would you?Are you insinuating that he's preventing other people from eating because he's trying to eat healthy?
I'm insinuating that he's got a problem with poor people having something to eat
If you're still in high school and are starting to have problems with RSI, you need to think about the future.
Back in the 1980s my brother and I would joke that we'll have carpel tunnel because of all the hours we logged playing video games on the Commodore 64. We had over 15 different joysticks and would regularly wear them out. We laughed then, but not a few years later when it started to become true.
My brother had carpel tunnel release surgery in 11th grade of high school. He needed surgery on his other hand by the second year of college. I found out that typing on IBM Ms kept my hands from hurting and switched to just the M. I've never had to have surgery (knock on wood), but I have injured my hand to the point I couldn't type at all for 2 weeks.
The lesson? I know you enjoy your sport and are very good at it (140+ is awesome), but think of the consequences. Don't be the future NFL player that blows out his knee in high school.
That being said, ergonomics are important, but so is resting and understanding your body's limits. You have to become hyper-sensitive to what's going on in your hand, so you can stop any damage before it becomes a permanent problem.
And once you discover some of the things that cause pain, you'll be able to use the mind you've sharpened to find permanent solutions and workarounds that work for you.
I'm still typing on my IBM M, and at about the same speed I did in high school. :)
Thanks for the advice. Recently I've been changing up my typing, practicing less than 20-30 minutes a day, so that I don't hurt my fingers too much, especially considering that fencing strains them a lot. Now I'm typing quickly when I'm well rested. If I take a break from fencing I can type more, or vice-versa.I'm glad to hear it. :) If you keep it up, you can be that 60-year old guy that kicks all the kids asses at future worldwide typing contests. ;)
:D Hopefully they'll still be around in over forty years.Thanks for the advice. Recently I've been changing up my typing, practicing less than 20-30 minutes a day, so that I don't hurt my fingers too much, especially considering that fencing strains them a lot. Now I'm typing quickly when I'm well rested. If I take a break from fencing I can type more, or vice-versa.I'm glad to hear it. :) If you keep it up, you can be that 60-year old guy that kicks all the kids asses at future worldwide typing contests. ;)