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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: xandr on Wed, 02 October 2013, 06:23:18

Title: Poker (II)/Ducky Mini layout
Post by: xandr on Wed, 02 October 2013, 06:23:18
Would a layout like this (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@_c=%23334248&t=%23f2eee4%3B&=%C2%A0%0Aesc&=!%0A1&=%2F@%0A2&=%23%0A3&=$%0A4&=%25%0A5&=%5E%0A6&=%2F&%0A7&=*%0A8&=(%0A9&=)%0A0&=%2F_%0A-&=+%0A%2F=&_w:2%3B&=%E2%8C%AB%0Abackspace%3B&@_w:1.5%3B&=%E2%86%B9%0Atab&=Q&=W&=E&=R&=T&=Y&=U&=I&=O&=P&=%7B%0A%5B&=%7D%0A%5D&_w:1.5&w2:1.25&h2:2&x2:0.25%3B&=%C2%A0%0A%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%E2%86%A9%3B&@_w:1.75%3B&=%E2%8C%83%0Acontrol&=A&=S&=D&=F&=G&=H&=J&=K&=L&=%2F:%0A%2F%3B&=%22%0A'&=%7C%0A%5C%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%87%A7%0Ashift&=%60%0A~&=Z&=X&=C&=V&=B&=N&=M&=%3C%0A,&=%3E%0A.&=%3F%0A%2F%2F&_w:2.75%3B&=%E2%87%A7%0Ashift%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%97%86%0Ameta&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%8C%A5%0Aoption&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%8C%98%0Acmd&_w:6.25%3B&=&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%8C%98%0Acmd&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%8C%A5%0Aoption&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%97%86%0Ameta&_w:1.25%3B&=%C2%A0%0Afn) be possible with the poker based boards or are they too "hard coded" for that?

I guess if not, the GH60 would be the only option, right?
Title: Re: Poker (II)/Ducky Mini layout
Post by: spiceBar on Wed, 02 October 2013, 06:32:54
Would a layout like this (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@_c=%23334248&t=%23f2eee4%3B&=%C2%A0%0Aesc&=!%0A1&=%22%0A2&=%23%0A3&=$%0A4&=%25%0A5&=%5E%0A6&=%2F&%0A7&=*%0A8&=(%0A9&=)%0A0&=%2F_%0A-&=+%0A%2F=&_w:2%3B&=%E2%8C%AB%0Abackspace%3B&@_w:1.5%3B&=%E2%86%B9%0Atab&=Q&=W&=E&=R&=T&=Y&=U&=I&=O&=P&=%7B%0A%5B&=%7D%0A%5D&_w:1.5&w2:1.25&h2:2&x2:0.25%3B&=%C2%A0%0A%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%E2%86%A9%3B&@_w:1.75%3B&=%E2%8C%83%0Acontrol&=A&=S&=D&=F&=G&=H&=J&=K&=L&=%2F:%0A%2F%3B&=%22%0A'&=%7C%0A%5C%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%87%A7%0Ashift&=%60%0A~&=Z&=X&=C&=V&=B&=N&=M&=%3C%0A,&=%3E%0A.&=%3F%0A%2F%2F&_w:2.75%3B&=%E2%87%A7%0Ashift%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%97%86%0Ameta&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%8C%A5%0Aoption&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%8C%98%0Acmd&_w:6.25%3B&=&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%8C%98%0Acmd&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%8C%A5%0Aoption&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%97%86%0Ameta&_w:1.25%3B&=%C2%A0%0Afn) be possible with the poker based boards or are they too "hard coded" for that?

I guess if not, the GH60 would be the only option, right?

Not possible with the Poker II because the location of the Fn key cannot be changed. And anyway it is not available in ISO.

In theory you can remap the Fn key by soldering wires, but then you also have the Pn key that cannot be programmed, and you are still not in ISO.

I think it's safe to say that the Poker II is not an option for you.
Title: Re: Poker (II)/Ducky Mini layout
Post by: xandr on Wed, 02 October 2013, 06:39:35
Yeah, I know the Poker isn't available in ISO. To my knowledge the Ducky Mini is based on it though, so if the reprogramming would be possible with either it should be possible with the other.
Title: Re: Poker (II)/Ducky Mini layout
Post by: spiceBar on Wed, 02 October 2013, 07:07:44
Yeah, I know the Poker isn't available in ISO. To my knowledge the Ducky Mini is based on it though, so if the reprogramming would be possible with either it should be possible with the other.

Maybe you should consider the KBT Pure Pro. It is reprogrammable and available in ISO. I own two and they are good keyboards.

  http://kbtrace.com/kbtpure/kbt-pure/kbt-pure-pro-60-white-light-qwerty-uk.html (http://kbtrace.com/kbtpure/kbt-pure/kbt-pure-pro-60-white-light-qwerty-uk.html)
Title: Re: Poker (II)/Ducky Mini layout
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 02 October 2013, 17:50:30
Would a layout like this (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@_c=%23334248&t=%23f2eee4%3B&=%C2%A0%0Aesc&=!%0A1&=%22%0A2&=%23%0A3&=$%0A4&=%25%0A5&=%5E%0A6&=%2F&%0A7&=*%0A8&=(%0A9&=)%0A0&=%2F_%0A-&=+%0A%2F=&_w:2%3B&=%E2%8C%AB%0Abackspace%3B&@_w:1.5%3B&=%E2%86%B9%0Atab&=Q&=W&=E&=R&=T&=Y&=U&=I&=O&=P&=%7B%0A%5B&=%7D%0A%5D&_w:1.5&w2:1.25&h2:2&x2:0.25%3B&=%C2%A0%0A%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%E2%86%A9%3B&@_w:1.75%3B&=%E2%8C%83%0Acontrol&=A&=S&=D&=F&=G&=H&=J&=K&=L&=%2F:%0A%2F%3B&=%22%0A'&=%7C%0A%5C%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%87%A7%0Ashift&=%60%0A~&=Z&=X&=C&=V&=B&=N&=M&=%3C%0A,&=%3E%0A.&=%3F%0A%2F%2F&_w:2.75%3B&=%E2%87%A7%0Ashift%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%97%86%0Ameta&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%8C%A5%0Aoption&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%8C%98%0Acmd&_w:6.25%3B&=&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%8C%98%0Acmd&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%8C%A5%0Aoption&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%97%86%0Ameta&_w:1.25%3B&=%C2%A0%0Afn) be possible with the poker based boards or are they too "hard coded" for that?

I guess if not, the GH60 would be the only option, right?

Not possible with the Poker II because the location of the Fn key cannot be changed. And anyway it is not available in ISO.

In theory you can remap the Fn key by soldering wires, but then you also have the Pn key that cannot be programmed, and you are still not in ISO.

I think it's safe to say that the Poker II is not an option for you.
who told you that? You can "move" the key with a simple PCB modification.
Title: Re: Poker (II)/Ducky Mini layout
Post by: xandr on Wed, 02 October 2013, 18:26:13
Maybe you should consider the KBT Pure Pro. It is reprogrammable and available in ISO. I own two and they are good keyboards.

  http://kbtrace.com/kbtpure/kbt-pure/kbt-pure-pro-60-white-light-qwerty-uk.html (http://kbtrace.com/kbtpure/kbt-pure/kbt-pure-pro-60-white-light-qwerty-uk.html)

The pure pro is no option due to the non-standard bottom row. I work in chat/email based customer support and I wouldn't want to switch between so different layouts all the time.
Title: Re: Poker (II)/Ducky Mini layout
Post by: spiceBar on Wed, 02 October 2013, 20:53:05
Would a layout like this (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@_c=%23334248&t=%23f2eee4%3B&=%C2%A0%0Aesc&=!%0A1&=%22%0A2&=%23%0A3&=$%0A4&=%25%0A5&=%5E%0A6&=%2F&%0A7&=*%0A8&=(%0A9&=)%0A0&=%2F_%0A-&=+%0A%2F=&_w:2%3B&=%E2%8C%AB%0Abackspace%3B&@_w:1.5%3B&=%E2%86%B9%0Atab&=Q&=W&=E&=R&=T&=Y&=U&=I&=O&=P&=%7B%0A%5B&=%7D%0A%5D&_w:1.5&w2:1.25&h2:2&x2:0.25%3B&=%C2%A0%0A%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%E2%86%A9%3B&@_w:1.75%3B&=%E2%8C%83%0Acontrol&=A&=S&=D&=F&=G&=H&=J&=K&=L&=%2F:%0A%2F%3B&=%22%0A'&=%7C%0A%5C%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%87%A7%0Ashift&=%60%0A~&=Z&=X&=C&=V&=B&=N&=M&=%3C%0A,&=%3E%0A.&=%3F%0A%2F%2F&_w:2.75%3B&=%E2%87%A7%0Ashift%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%97%86%0Ameta&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%8C%A5%0Aoption&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%8C%98%0Acmd&_w:6.25%3B&=&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%8C%98%0Acmd&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%8C%A5%0Aoption&_w:1.25%3B&=%E2%97%86%0Ameta&_w:1.25%3B&=%C2%A0%0Afn) be possible with the poker based boards or are they too "hard coded" for that?

I guess if not, the GH60 would be the only option, right?

Not possible with the Poker II because the location of the Fn key cannot be changed. And anyway it is not available in ISO.

In theory you can remap the Fn key by soldering wires, but then you also have the Pn key that cannot be programmed, and you are still not in ISO.

I think it's safe to say that the Poker II is not an option for you.
who told you that? You can "move" the key with a simple PCB modification.

Yes I know, but you also have the Pn key which is a second problem. You would have to relocate two keys and in the end you would miss one key (Pn cannot be intercepted by software).