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Title: IBM Keyboard Collection [UPDATE 12/29/2013]
Post by: 127001 on Fri, 04 October 2013, 18:33:30
Updated my IBM Keyboard collection:

Left display case:
(http://i.imgur.com/escIrz5.jpg)

Top-down:
More
(http://i.imgur.com/EPlZ7Fb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/hn8dsVV.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/lEKeACK.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ddXH1Aa.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Genump2.jpg)

Right display case:
(http://i.imgur.com/zDw4FBw.jpg)

Top-down:
More
(http://i.imgur.com/2r52Mb7.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/5DESO8B.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jPwvIfe.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZyuLnkK.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cQqyOIS.jpg)

I need to get another display case as I have a bunch of other boards that I can't display right now. I plan is to eventually have a fact sheet accompanying all of these and have it be a little personal museum. All of that is a few years off though...
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 04 October 2013, 18:48:31
All I need to complete it is some foam to replace the old stuff (it was complete rotten; Please recommend some stuff to use),

and I need to convert some of the rust that's on the galvanized bit still trying to figure out how to preserve the sticker on the plate though.

I went through a process for making a new foam mat in my guide. I like the thicker art store foam (@ about 1/16" or 1.5mm) but other people like a much thinner neoprene. Obviously, the thinner the foam the easier the plates go back together. The XTs are the easiest, in general, anyway.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48786.msg1048948#msg1048948

I have had good luck masking stickers with clear plastic and masking tape, just be careful and don't expect it to stand up to too much abuse.
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: 127001 on Fri, 04 October 2013, 18:52:15
Nice, thanks for the info :D. I've only gone to the art store once looking for it and they really didn't seem to have anything that would work. I'm going to search amazon to find something I think.

BTW: That is one of the walk through I used for my process. It's very well done :D.
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 04 October 2013, 19:10:42
That's a happy family photo :D
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 04 October 2013, 19:16:43
My goal is to have EVERY part number, which will be difficult/expensive/time consuming, but I think it will be worth it in the end.

That is indeed ambitious. One look at clickykeyboards.com or the Model M wikipedia entry would dissuade me in a hurry.

The Model M has scarce and pricey variants (eg industrial SSKs and M15s), while there were a lot of weird Fs from the early days that will be just crazy rare.

As with coin collecting, I recommend that you start with a "type set" and collect a good example of each major type, before drilling down into things like part numbers.
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 04 October 2013, 20:10:36
Always brings a tear to the eye to see a nice collection like that.

Back in the day these keyboards would like lined up and no-one would have given them a second look.
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: 127001 on Fri, 04 October 2013, 20:26:45
Always brings a tear to the eye to see a nice collection like that.

Back in the day these keyboards would like lined up and no-one would have given them a second look.

I'm glad someone else like them :P. I just like what they represent overall I guess.
In addition to these I also have a Das Keyboard (<rage>...) and I'm thinking of picking up an HHKB (<YeahIGetWhatThatDoesHere>...)as a present to myself for my birthday.

That is indeed ambitious. One look at clickykeyboards.com or the Model M wikipedia entry would dissuade me in a hurry.

The Model M has scarce and pricey variants (eg industrial SSKs and M15s), while there were a lot of weird Fs from the early days that will be just crazy rare.

As with coin collecting, I recommend that you start with a "type set" and collect a good example of each major type, before drilling down into things like part numbers.


I'm only focused on the BS, non-Lexmark, non-industrial, non-security harden, Model M's right now. I think a regular SSK is an achievable goal at present, it's gonna cost a pretty penny though.

Don't get me wrong, I want all of those, but I see them at a different price point and would be a more justifiable purchase when they're completing a substantial collection. As for the Model F's, those are complimentary to the collection I would say. Mostly, I've been buying them from recycling centers, yard sales, and craigs list; ebay inflates stuff quite a bit :P.
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 04 October 2013, 20:33:11
As for the Model F's, those are complimentary to the collection I would say.

Aha. So you want a collection for the sake of collecting. If you were actually using them, you would discover, at some point, that the Model F makes the Model M seem like a plastic toy.
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: 127001 on Fri, 04 October 2013, 20:42:41
As for the Model F's, those are complimentary to the collection I would say.

Aha. So you want a collection for the sake of collecting. If you were actually using them, you would discover, at some point, that the Model F makes the Model M seem like a plastic toy.

Well...
When the F I have was completely assembled I have to say that it was more satisfying to use. That said, I haven't really been able to use it properly as of yet. The layout is my only issue; I like F11-12. I'm going to make an F24 a priority of my collection that's for sure.
Also I plan to have the collection ready so that I can swap out keyboards at will; they have to be used to be appreciated of course.
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: sprit on Tue, 08 October 2013, 04:25:07
Nice Collection!  I love F series
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: 127001 on Mon, 14 October 2013, 18:39:45
Added another keyboard to the collection:

IBM F AT
(http://i.imgur.com/95OziKV.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/YPtfbiq.jpg)

I've yet to clean it up. Probably going to disassemble it in the next couple of weeks, assess it for rust, and fix up whatever needs to fixed. It'll give me a reason to finish my other IBM Model F.

I have another addition coming in later this week. I'll update again then.
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: 127001 on Fri, 18 October 2013, 20:02:49
Updated the original post with some better potatoes. Also add a photo of the new SSK addition.
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:21:49
The F AT is the one IBM keyboard I'm sad to have sold.  My Model M felt like a toy compared to it.
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: 127001 on Wed, 13 November 2013, 19:44:02
Added some new boards. Still have to take some non-potatoes.
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 14 November 2013, 09:24:00
Man that beam spring board looks awesome. I can't wait to try out a beam spring board. Like I said before, your collection is pretty awesome 127001. :D
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: 127001 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 10:56:39
Man that beam spring board looks awesome. I can't wait to try out a beam spring board. Like I said before, your collection is pretty awesome 127001. :D

I'm glad people like it. I need to get them properly displayed though. Might have to wait until I get a different place though.
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: Alessandro on Fri, 15 November 2013, 16:23:06
Nice collection! And PMd regarding.
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection NOW ON DISPLAY
Post by: 127001 on Sun, 17 November 2013, 20:50:47
Put together a temporary display made from cheap shelving from Walmart. I can't hang selves in my apt due to the CMU's and apt. rules so I'm settling for this setup for the time being. I'm probably going to grab another one next week if I can and add more of my boards to the display.
(http://i.imgur.com/E559aiu.jpg)
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 17 November 2013, 20:53:53
That display looks absolutely amazing. Such a nice collection.
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: 127001 on Sun, 17 November 2013, 20:58:58
Thanks :D.

I'm acutally pretty happy with the way it looks. Cost me like only $50 too.
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 17 November 2013, 20:59:39
Wow that looks really awesome

I'd like that someday for my own keyboards....

that beamspring too... wow
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: 127001 on Sun, 17 November 2013, 21:21:24
I tried to begin and end with a bang :P
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: Michael on Sun, 17 November 2013, 21:22:18
Really amazing collection, sir. I am considering building up a collection myself.


I had a few really nice SSK's that I sold, regrettably.
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 18 November 2013, 03:34:56
Put together a temporary display made from cheap shelving from Walmart. I can't hang selves in my apt due to the CMU's and apt. rules so I'm settling for this setup for the time being. I'm probably going to grab another one next week if I can and add more of my boards to the display.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/E559aiu.jpg)


Fantastic effect with the lighting.

LEDs?

Where did you run the wires?
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: snoopy on Mon, 18 November 2013, 03:43:34
Nice collection. From top to bottom its like the evolution of the ibm keyboard. Too bad there is no place for a ssk in your display. Don't know what kind of light you use, but make sure it doesn't harm the keyboards if it will be switched on for long time and so directly over the keyboards
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: calavera on Mon, 18 November 2013, 03:57:49
M15 should be on top. Just sayin'
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: 127001 on Mon, 18 November 2013, 05:01:18
M15 should be on top. Just sayin'

It think you're right from a structural standpoint... That thing is heavy. I'm probably going to swap the whole thing around later. Ideally though I'm going to have this whole thing run horizontally, not vertically.

Fantastic effect with the lighting.

LEDs?

Where did you run the wires?
Nice collection. From top to bottom its like the evolution of the ibm keyboard. Too bad there is no place for a ssk in your display. Don't know what kind of light you use, but make sure it doesn't harm the keyboards if it will be switched on for long time and so directly over the keyboards

I got these cheap Xeon lights from Homedepot. I know that's probably not the best but it's a short term solution right now. The lights are all able to be attached together at a dimmer switch which I only every leave on low; it doesn't seem to put off too much heat at that setting so I think the keyboards will be perfectly fine. The shelves are just cheap flat-pack stuff so I Just cut a whole in the cardboard in the back to run the wire through.

I'd have put my SSK in there but I'm using it right now :P
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 19 November 2013, 03:57:51
M15 should be on top. Just sayin'

It think you're right from a structural standpoint... That thing is heavy. I'm probably going to swap the whole thing around later. Ideally though I'm going to have this whole thing run horizontally, not vertically.

Fantastic effect with the lighting.

LEDs?

Where did you run the wires?
Nice collection. From top to bottom its like the evolution of the ibm keyboard. Too bad there is no place for a ssk in your display. Don't know what kind of light you use, but make sure it doesn't harm the keyboards if it will be switched on for long time and so directly over the keyboards

I got these cheap Xeon lights from Homedepot. I know that's probably not the best but it's a short term solution right now. The lights are all able to be attached together at a dimmer switch which I only every leave on low; it doesn't seem to put off too much heat at that setting so I think the keyboards will be perfectly fine. The shelves are just cheap flat-pack stuff so I Just cut a whole in the cardboard in the back to run the wire through.

I'd have put my SSK in there but I'm using it right now :P


A neat solution - thanks for that!
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection NEW DISPLAY
Post by: 127001 on Sat, 23 November 2013, 19:27:52
Added more shelving and improved the display:
(http://i.imgur.com/NPTTp0B.jpg?1)
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection NEW DISPLAY
Post by: Michael on Sat, 23 November 2013, 19:29:45
Really slick setup. I just got my M15. Looks like some retr0brite will be needed :(
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection NOW ON DISPLAY
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 24 November 2013, 11:41:24
if the beam spring shelf collapses it will be disaster all the way down, heh

poor M15, death by beam spring squashing

 
Put together a temporary display made from cheap shelving from Walmart. I can't hang selves in my apt due to the CMU's and apt. rules so I'm settling for this setup for the time being. I'm probably going to grab another one next week if I can and add more of my boards to the display.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/E559aiu.jpg)

Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection NEW DISPLAY
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 November 2013, 11:43:40
Damn that looks good. I should do that with my collection
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection NEW DISPLAY
Post by: sprit on Sun, 24 November 2013, 23:59:35
Added more shelving and improved the display:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/NPTTp0B.jpg?1)


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Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection NEW DISPLAY
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 10 December 2013, 17:55:34
Needs a kishsaver!
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection NEW DISPLAY
Post by: 127001 on Tue, 10 December 2013, 17:59:46
Needs a kishsaver!

En route. Along with a German Language beam spring :D
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection NEW DISPLAY
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 10 December 2013, 18:21:59
En route. Along with a German Language beam spring :D

Ah that was you! Nice get :thumb:
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection NEW DISPLAY
Post by: Creizai on Sat, 14 December 2013, 16:19:21
Mega awesome
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection NEW DISPLAY
Post by: 127001 on Mon, 16 December 2013, 19:48:40
NEW KEYBOARD:

Kishsaver:
(http://i.imgur.com/oObePL8.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/AlBU6W9.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/F9dGiqW.jpg)

And finally... what's probably the sexiest photo I've ever taken...
(http://i.imgur.com/gAE8eAu.jpg)
Title: Re: IBM Keyboard Collection [UPDATE 12/29/2013]
Post by: 127001 on Sun, 29 December 2013, 08:50:23
Updated my display and added a new beamspring to the collection  :)
Title: Re: IBM Keyboard Collection [UPDATE 12/29/2013]
Post by: mapple on Thu, 16 January 2014, 01:03:39
dammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, i'm so jealous.....................
Title: Re: IBM Keyboard Collection [UPDATE 12/29/2013]
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 05 February 2014, 22:57:11
*fap fap fap
Title: Re: IBM Keyboard Collection [UPDATE 12/29/2013]
Post by: ZSYStriker on Thu, 05 June 2014, 08:15:18
That beam spring board on the bottom right -- can that be used with some sort of adapter with modern computers?
Title: Re: IBM Model M & F Collection NEW DISPLAY
Post by: Frenir on Thu, 05 June 2014, 08:16:39
NEW KEYBOARD:

Kishsaver:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/oObePL8.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AlBU6W9.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/F9dGiqW.jpg)


And finally... what's probably the sexiest photo I've ever taken...
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/gAE8eAu.jpg)

Woah, that is sexy - nice collection you have there.
Title: Re: IBM Keyboard Collection [UPDATE 12/29/2013]
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 June 2014, 08:17:13
That beam spring board on the bottom right -- can that be used with some sort of adapter with modern computers?

Thank's to xwhatsit, yes. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45097.0). I don't think that the controller works with the displaywriter boards but I don't think that's a display writer.
Title: Re: IBM Keyboard Collection [UPDATE 12/29/2013]
Post by: Phenix on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:00:30
You make me really jealous
nice collection, badly I cant find an M15 anywhere :p
Title: Re: IBM Keyboard Collection [UPDATE 12/29/2013]
Post by: menuhin on Sun, 15 May 2016, 14:27:55
You are approaching the rank of IBM rare keyboard museum curator!  :thumb: