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Title: Soylent
Post by: kmiller8 on Wed, 09 October 2013, 22:10:41: Anybody else heard of the stuff?

I'm going to try a DIY recipie starting next week, I'm excited :))
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 09 October 2013, 22:11:32: How was there not a thread on this already?
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 09 October 2013, 22:22:27: But is it made of people?
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: kmiller8 on Wed, 09 October 2013, 22:26:19: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 09 October 2013, 22:11:32
How was there not a thread on this already?

I know right!

Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 09 October 2013, 22:22:27
But is it made of people?

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Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 09 October 2013, 22:27:13: Wow, awesome. I've always been interested in something like this. Maybe I'll give it a try.
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: kmiller8 on Wed, 09 October 2013, 22:38:16: here's some good reading for you

http://diy.soylent.me/wiki/introduction
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 09 October 2013, 22:42:07: This sounds far too pragmatic a solution. One of life's greatest joys is eating, no one wants to live in a lightless world.
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 09 October 2013, 23:11:57: Sounds interesting, but scary. If the population continues to increase, we might all end up eating this all the time.
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: PointyFox on Thu, 10 October 2013, 00:00:02: Just don't make the green variety. It isn't so fun for DIY.
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 10 October 2013, 02:24:19: Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 09 October 2013, 23:11:57
Sounds interesting, but scary. If the population continues to increase, we might all end up eating this all the time.

Damn, lets break out our kitchenware and get started already........ :thumb: . Always wanted to try some longpig.
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: kmiller8 on Fri, 11 October 2013, 15:47:20: (http://i.imgur.com/VpWXsR2.jpg)

6/12 ingredients.
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 11 October 2013, 15:51:30: ^^ Does this need to go in the making things subforum :P
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 11 October 2013, 23:11:13: Opti-women? What is this??
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: kmiller8 on Sat, 12 October 2013, 04:12:54: Quote from: rowdy on Fri, 11 October 2013, 23:11:13
Opti-women? What is this??

Nutrients son.
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 12 October 2013, 04:46:46: Quote from: kmiller8 on Sat, 12 October 2013, 04:12:54
Quote from: rowdy on Fri, 11 October 2013, 23:11:13
Opti-women? What is this??

Nutrients son.

Ah. For women, I would hazard a guess?
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 12 October 2013, 08:22:33: Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 12 October 2013, 04:46:46
Quote from: kmiller8 on Sat, 12 October 2013, 04:12:54
Quote from: rowdy on Fri, 11 October 2013, 23:11:13
Opti-women? What is this??

Nutrients son.

Ah. For women, I would hazard a guess?

Kmiller is a girl rowdy. ;)
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: agodinhost on Sat, 12 October 2013, 08:31:31: Awesome!
The vego people will complain, sure ...
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 12 October 2013, 17:23:10: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 12 October 2013, 08:22:33
Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 12 October 2013, 04:46:46
Quote from: kmiller8 on Sat, 12 October 2013, 04:12:54
Quote from: rowdy on Fri, 11 October 2013, 23:11:13
Opti-women? What is this??

Nutrients son.

Ah. For women, I would hazard a guess?

Kmiller is a girl rowdy. ;)

No he isn't - I've seen the videos :))
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: ijprest on Sat, 12 October 2013, 21:22:13: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 09 October 2013, 22:11:32
How was there not a thread on this already?

There was. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48324)
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: kmiller8 on Sat, 12 October 2013, 21:23:46: Quote from: ijprest on Sat, 12 October 2013, 21:22:13
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 09 October 2013, 22:11:32
How was there not a thread on this already?

There was. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48324)

yea but that's a tp4 thread, nobody likes those :)
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:06:20: Quote from: kmiller8 on Sat, 12 October 2013, 21:23:46
Quote from: ijprest on Sat, 12 October 2013, 21:22:13
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 09 October 2013, 22:11:32
How was there not a thread on this already?

There was. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48324)

yea but that's a tp4 thread, nobody likes those :)

Listen to this girl - she knows what she's talking about.
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: kmiller8 on Mon, 14 October 2013, 21:15:45: (http://i.imgur.com/T9eet9V.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/4EOFJl3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/vUDyrOQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Lm8auXH.jpg)

Tastes very almondy. hmm...
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: dante on Tue, 15 October 2013, 13:13:28: I'm very interested in reading about your progress kmiller8...

Currently I'm working with someone on spartansupper ( https://twitter.com/SpartanSupper ) to generate a 3-4 ingredient food list that pretty much does the same thing: minimalist ingredients with complete nutrition.
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 15 October 2013, 13:17:27: I like almonds!
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: nissarup on Tue, 15 October 2013, 13:22:02: I've been doing 8 meals a week for about three weeks. I like it.
I'm following the hacker school recipe. More or less. The first week I misunderstood the recipe and put in 85g of olive oil in each meal. Which translates to ~3900kcal a day. I did not loose any weight that week, quite the opposite :)
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: Malphas on Tue, 15 October 2013, 16:15:52: I'm assuming this is being done for fun more than anything, but it's worth pointing out that there's major issues with this (and official Soylent is even worse).

Multivitamins are poor substitutes for fruit and vegetables. Micronutrients often work better synergistically in their natural forms than manufactured alternatives, and there are hundreds/thousands of phytochemicals in everyday foods, more of which are being identified as having an important effect on wellbeing, that won't be included in a multivitamin.

Soy protein alone has a crappy amino acid profile.

You're not going to get sufficient quantity of the optimum range of fatty acids based on those fat sources.
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: dante on Tue, 15 October 2013, 19:49:26: Wow, didn't know this was crowd funded: https://campaign.soylent.me/soylent-free-your-body
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: kmiller8 on Tue, 15 October 2013, 20:23:46: Quote from: Malphas on Tue, 15 October 2013, 16:15:52
I'm assuming this is being done for fun more than anything, but it's worth pointing out that there's major issues with this (and official Soylent is even worse).

Multivitamins are poor substitutes for fruit and vegetables. Micronutrients often work better synergistically in their natural forms than manufactured alternatives, and there are hundreds/thousands of phytochemicals in everyday foods, more of which are being identified as having an important effect on wellbeing, that won't be included in a multivitamin.

Soy protein alone has a crappy amino acid profile.

You're not going to get sufficient quantity of the optimum range of fatty acids based on those fat sources.

Yeah this is mostly for fun, I realize this can't be compared to a real food diet which is why I don't plan on eating only this for every meal, mostly only breakfast/lunch.
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: ijprest on Tue, 15 October 2013, 22:22:29: Quote from: Malphas on Tue, 15 October 2013, 16:15:52
I'm assuming this is being done for fun more than anything, but it's worth pointing out that there's major issues with this (and official Soylent is even worse).

Multivitamins are poor substitutes for fruit and vegetables. Micronutrients often work better synergistically in their natural forms than manufactured alternatives, and there are hundreds/thousands of phytochemicals in everyday foods, more of which are being identified as having an important effect on wellbeing, that won't be included in a multivitamin.

Soy protein alone has a crappy amino acid profile.

You're not going to get sufficient quantity of the optimum range of fatty acids based on those fat sources.

Hell... can't be much worse than my current diet... I very-much doubt I'm getting complete nutrition with it, either! :)
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: kmiller8 on Thu, 17 October 2013, 06:38:05: Quote from: dante on Tue, 15 October 2013, 13:13:28
I'm very interested in reading about your progress kmiller8...

Currently I'm working with someone on spartansupper ( https://twitter.com/SpartanSupper ) to generate a 3-4 ingredient food list that pretty much does the same thing: minimalist ingredients with complete nutrition.

work faster. that seems interesting.

As for soylent progress, it's Day 3. Day 1 was pretty good, Day 2 I added 5x more salt than required (don't sleep and soylent) so I trashed the batch, and now with Day 3 I've decided to just make a soylent lunch.

Sometime soon I'm going to try and bake it...
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 17 October 2013, 10:41:07: I've attempted to do this, and I looked deeply into the issue..

There are 2 major problems unaddressed by the medical (nutrition) community:

1.

we don't know "for sure" that man-made supplements can be absorb as well as naturally occurring ones.

2.

The Recommended Daily Allowance is based on minimum necessity to prevent pathological deficiency...

Now, really think about how imprecise a number based on that would be.. and how LARGE the deviation would be between all the variety of people, in size, race, habits (physical labor, mental labor)

For example, lets consider corner cases, foot-soldier vs a scientist... The brain consumes different things than muscle.. so something that a soldier would absolutely require, may even be toxic to the scientist, because their bodies are not tuned to process equivalent doses of certain chemicals.

To make something such as Soylent... is a bit of a dream based on the possibility of establishing an "IDEAL"...

No such ideal exists due to variance...

And the "current" scientific guidelines are very very rough....

I do my own system of soylent, more so to save time rather than produce "ideal nutrition" which I don't think is possible.

Each time I go to the grocery store.. I pick 10 random vegetables or fruits, or a mix of both...

I throw them all in a pot, add some potatoes for the starch, and boil till soft.

I can make 2 weeks worth at 1 time.. takes about 5 hours...

I've been eating this for about a year. (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/f529a952.gif)
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: nissarup on Thu, 17 October 2013, 11:40:51: No diet is ideal for everyone.

And a random diet is rarely ideal for anyone.
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: dante on Thu, 17 October 2013, 11:53:46: I'll probably wait for the reviews to hit the street but if positive I'll try it out for 2 out of 3 meals to see how it goes.

The 3rd meal will probably be a big ass salad.
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 17 October 2013, 14:11:35: Quote from: dante on Thu, 17 October 2013, 11:53:46
I'll probably wait for the reviews to hit the street but if positive I'll try it out for 2 out of 3 meals to see how it goes.

The 3rd meal will probably be a big ass salad.

there's no point in reading reviews.

This is something you have to try for yourself.. No review would be useful...

Example: Everyone says gatorade is boss..

Cousin drinks gatorade... explosive rear exhaust... Turns out many people are allergic to the lab-salts they use as (electrolytes)...
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: kmiller8 on Fri, 18 October 2013, 23:43:39: baking soylent!

(http://i.imgur.com/9WcXsdV.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/65iZelA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cQ8AMxf.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7mhztjr.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/AGIFy7g.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/egul5cY.jpg)

I put a ****load of cinnamon in this batch, it came out smelling and having the consistency of a nice brown sugar cinnamon oatmeal, however it's quite far from the taste.
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: PointyFox on Sat, 19 October 2013, 00:51:36: Quote from: kmiller8 on Fri, 18 October 2013, 23:43:39
baking soylent!

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I put a ****load of cinnamon in this batch, it came out smelling and having the consistency of a nice brown sugar cinnamon oatmeal, however it's quite far from the taste.

That's not baking. That's called "boiling". I'm waiting for the headline "Mass deaths blamed on DIY fad food "soylent"".
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: Halverson on Sat, 19 October 2013, 00:55:12: Quote from: PointyFox on Sat, 19 October 2013, 00:51:36
Quote from: kmiller8 on Fri, 18 October 2013, 23:43:39
baking soylent!

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I put a ****load of cinnamon in this batch, it came out smelling and having the consistency of a nice brown sugar cinnamon oatmeal, however it's quite far from the taste.

That's not baking. That's called "boiling". I'm waiting for the headline "Mass deaths blamed on DIY fad food "soylent"".

Bake: cook (food) by dry heat without direct exposure to a flame, typically in an oven or on a hot surface.
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 19 October 2013, 00:55:13: Quote from: PointyFox on Sat, 19 October 2013, 00:51:36
Quote from: kmiller8 on Fri, 18 October 2013, 23:43:39
baking soylent!

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(http://i.imgur.com/9WcXsdV.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/65iZelA.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/cQ8AMxf.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/AGIFy7g.jpg)

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I put a ****load of cinnamon in this batch, it came out smelling and having the consistency of a nice brown sugar cinnamon oatmeal, however it's quite far from the taste.

That's not baking. That's called "boiling". I'm waiting for the headline "Mass deaths blamed on DIY fad food "soylent"".

hahahahaha... dude, no way that stuff will kill you...

If anything it's slightly more healthy than something like white rice... (http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/tuzki-bunnys/tuzki-bunny-emoticon-022.gif)
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: kmiller8 on Sun, 20 October 2013, 18:07:31: Baking soylent Take 2!

This time I didn't add any oil to the batter, just water.

(http://i.imgur.com/5uo82J1.jpg)

Looking alright
(http://i.imgur.com/K2mf7YU.jpg)

Oh noes
(http://i.imgur.com/DyGWLbT.jpg)

Crap
(http://i.imgur.com/8ALE3Bs.jpg)

And oatmeal again :s
(http://i.imgur.com/Ivh6PPN.jpg)

Someone please help me bake. what should I add? eggs? baking powder? less water?
Title: Re: Soylent
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 20 October 2013, 18:18:23: No idea about cooking, but that is a VERY clean oven you have there!