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Title: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: thesentinel on Thu, 10 October 2013, 18:45:26
Do you have to fully depress the keys? Does it make a loud sound? I only recently found out they exist.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: smknjoe on Thu, 10 October 2013, 18:47:07
No and no.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: bazemk1979 on Thu, 10 October 2013, 19:03:50
Its said that it feels like cloud of boobs when typing on it, WTF ever that means...
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: smknjoe on Thu, 10 October 2013, 19:06:19
That depends on whether the boobs are real or not. 45g are like real boobs and I imagine the 55g are like fake boobs. I prefer real boobs.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 10 October 2013, 19:09:02
You don't technically have to depress the key all the way to actuate it, but in practice it's very difficult not to bottom out.  Much more difficult than with MX switches.

The Topre sound is distinctive but not loud -- "thock".  See Youtube for recordings.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: oscillik on Thu, 10 October 2013, 19:09:16
oh wow, I'm touching boobs right now?  :thumb:
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: thesentinel on Thu, 10 October 2013, 19:23:00
you know you have problems when you try to type on your own breasts
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 10 October 2013, 20:29:52
Er, http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19051.0

Really.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: alosec on Thu, 10 October 2013, 22:06:27
Feels like typing on bags of money
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Thu, 10 October 2013, 22:17:12
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How does it feel to use a topre?

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Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on Fri, 11 October 2013, 01:35:22
Unfortunately, no one can be told what the feeling of oneness with cup rubber is really like. You have to experience it for yourself.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: dbme on Fri, 11 October 2013, 09:22:12
Like this (http://i.minus.com/iE4mxEtBBfrSy.gif)
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 11 October 2013, 09:25:19
Have you ever had sex?


Well, it doesn't really feel anything like that. But it's nice.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: goobus on Fri, 11 October 2013, 09:41:24
You know that gooey stuff you get when you mix cornstarch with water? How it's soft and hard and cold at the same time? For some reason topre switches remind me of that. Super solid yet soft. Like nice breasts :D
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Hyde on Fri, 11 October 2013, 10:06:28
Quote from: bazemk1979 on Thu, 10 October 2013, 19:03:50
Its said that it feels like cloud of boobs when typing on it, WTF ever that means...

Usually it bugs me a bit when people mis-use the term "cloud of boobs" because it originated from MX Red.

However I actually agree that Topre feels more like boobs than MX Red so in this case I guess it's ok lol.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: yasuo on Fri, 11 October 2013, 10:10:31
maybe Rubber dome











i never try topre :))
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: mljs54 on Fri, 11 October 2013, 10:23:19
(http://i.qkme.me/3pga6e.jpg)
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Tony on Fri, 11 October 2013, 10:54:48
I feel the velvety smoothness that only 300 USD can provide.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: AuRinBei on Fri, 11 October 2013, 13:23:37
Quote from: Hyde on Fri, 11 October 2013, 10:06:28
Quote from: bazemk1979 on Thu, 10 October 2013, 19:03:50
Its said that it feels like cloud of boobs when typing on it, WTF ever that means...

Usually it bugs me a bit when people mis-use the term "cloud of boobs" because it originated from MX Red.

However I actually agree that Topre feels more like boobs than MX Red so in this case I guess it's ok lol.

That, and have you seen what the cups look like when they're sitting on the PCB?
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: snoopy on Fri, 11 October 2013, 13:24:12
Heaven on Earth
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: unicomp_uc on Fri, 11 October 2013, 14:09:23
I will tell you in 2 business days!!! so excited. HHKB Pro 2 white/beigh non-printed OTW :)
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: eth0s on Fri, 11 October 2013, 14:43:09
Good feeling of oneness with cup rubber.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Polymer on Sat, 12 October 2013, 04:47:41
It'll feel a lot like a normal rubber dome keyboard in how the dome collapses...but the stability, smoothness, responsiveness and the sound will make it something completely different.

As people have said, you don't have to bottom out..but you likely will..the keys will actually actuate w/o it which makes you feel like the keys are a bit more responsive...

You'll also get a different feel from the RF, 660c and HHKB....
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: terran5992 on Sat, 12 October 2013, 06:01:43
HHKB are nice to type on imo
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Hyde on Sat, 12 October 2013, 11:44:32
Quote from: AuRinBei on Fri, 11 October 2013, 13:23:37
Quote from: Hyde on Fri, 11 October 2013, 10:06:28
Quote from: bazemk1979 on Thu, 10 October 2013, 19:03:50
Its said that it feels like cloud of boobs when typing on it, WTF ever that means...

Usually it bugs me a bit when people mis-use the term "cloud of boobs" because it originated from MX Red.

However I actually agree that Topre feels more like boobs than MX Red so in this case I guess it's ok lol.

That, and have you seen what the cups look like when they're sitting on the PCB?

LOL good point !
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Danule on Sat, 12 October 2013, 12:01:31
feels like a very smooth stable and enjoyable typing experieince.  Its a luxury keyboard :D
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: thesentinel on Sat, 12 October 2013, 16:25:32
hm, what do you guys think the best topre keyboard is? I hope it's realforce 'cause I dislike things that are more compact than tenkeyless
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 12 October 2013, 16:52:00
The Realforce are the best built Topre keyboards. Some (myself included) prefer the HHKB due to its form factor and layout, but it seems to be generally accepted that the Realforces are sturdier and possibly even nicer to type on due to the better construction (the Realforce has a backplate whereas the HHKB doesn't, for example)
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Thimplum on Sat, 12 October 2013, 16:55:06
HHKB switches are also case mounted. Many prefer this, but overall it's not really the best build quality decision.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 12 October 2013, 17:07:27
I switched from HHKB yesterday to MX reds today.

I am missing the Thorpe, seriously.  These reds just feel cheap in comparison (although the board is fine - KeyCool, just the switches don't feel as sweet).

Or maybe the green EK keycaps have something to do with it.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: demik on Sat, 12 October 2013, 19:22:56
like you're the king of your domain and cherry users are peasants.

kind of like using a pc for gaming compared to using a console. everybody else is below you.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Polymer on Sat, 12 October 2013, 19:26:37
Quote from: ch_123 on Sat, 12 October 2013, 16:52:00
The Realforce are the best built Topre keyboards. Some (myself included) prefer the HHKB due to its form factor and layout, but it seems to be generally accepted that the Realforces are sturdier and possibly even nicer to type on due to the better construction (the Realforce has a backplate whereas the HHKB doesn't, for example)

I don't know if they're made any better..they have a plate...which leads to a different feel in the switches..

The HHKB is very very solid though..it just has a different feel to it because it is case mounted....a slightly softer more forgiving feel than the RF...and definitely more thock to it...
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 12 October 2013, 21:37:38
After spending my first few hours with a Topre board just now, I can understand why it's said that it's hard to describe the feeling. It's very unlike any MX switch, even ergo clears. It's a really incredible feeling though, and I can tell even this soon that I enjoy it much more than MX.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: unicomp_uc on Sat, 12 October 2013, 21:48:41
I can't wait. A few more days....
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:00:37
I temporarily switched from HHKB to MX reds.  Couldn't stand it!  So I switched to MX blues, partly to see if the Caps Lock LED still works (it does!) but also because my original Ducky hasn't been used for ages.  I am still glancing at the HHKB sitting over in the corner.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 13 October 2013, 01:52:22
What does 55g Topre feel like in comparison to 45g? Is it more tactile?
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Polymer on Sun, 13 October 2013, 01:59:22
Stiffer, snappier...I don't think they're actually more tactile although I can see why others may feel they are..Some people don't think 45g are tactile at all...which is weird because I certainly do...

IMO, 45g in use feels slightly stiffer than browns..but not a lot more...55g feels a lot stiffer than blues...

And oddly enough..HHKB 45g feels slightly stiff than RF 45g...but not by a lot..I'm not sure why either..
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 13 October 2013, 02:59:35
Sex without protection.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 13 October 2013, 03:40:14
MX reds feel loose in comparison.

I tend to bottom out lightly all the time.  MX reds have a hard clack clack clack.

Topre has a soft thock thock thoc.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: fuzzybaffy on Sun, 13 October 2013, 09:03:09
Yea... Topre switches are super smooth, and super stable. As someone else in the board has mentioned before, the action is very similar to that of hitting piano keys. It just feels like you're pressing an actual key, not a keycap on top of a mechanical switch... if that makes any sense.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: mljs54 on Sun, 13 October 2013, 21:10:09
Quote from: fuzzybaffy on Sun, 13 October 2013, 09:03:09
Yea... Topre switches are super smooth, and super stable. As someone else in the board has mentioned before, the action is very similar to that of hitting piano keys. It just feels like you're pressing an actual key, not a keycap on top of a mechanical switch... if that makes any sense.

That's actually a great way to describe it.  Everything feels like a single unit to me all the way to the bottom.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: terran5992 on Sun, 13 October 2013, 21:11:46
You have to physically try a topre to know how it feels like
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: redskull on Sun, 13 October 2013, 22:42:42
my hhkb is in transit from japan to my place, cant wait for it to arrive.  ;D
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: unicomp_uc on Sun, 13 October 2013, 22:45:56
California to South Carolina here... feels like it's coming from Japan though :/
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: PadawanGeek on Mon, 14 October 2013, 02:52:46
Wow, as of late, there has been a lot of Topre love in this forum, glad to see more are appreciating it.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 14 October 2013, 03:32:18
If feels overrated.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: ctbear on Tue, 15 October 2013, 00:36:40
Quote from: noisyturtle on Mon, 14 October 2013, 03:32:18
If feels overrated.

You must be really bored to keep spreading your "disappointment" about Topre switches in every related thread.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: unicomp_uc on Tue, 15 October 2013, 00:45:18
Quote from: ctbear on Tue, 15 October 2013, 00:36:40
Quote from: noisyturtle on Mon, 14 October 2013, 03:32:18
If feels overrated.

You must be really bored to keep spreading your "disappointment" about Topre switches in every related thread.

God.... Agreed. He is like this:

Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: acer589 on Tue, 15 October 2013, 01:01:02
Okay, so I got a Type Heaven a few days ago. I pulled it out of the box and immediately hated it. It felt more... mushy than the Cherry's I've come to love. I almost put it back in the box immediately. But I figured, '**** it. MechanicalKeyboards has a 30 day return policy. If I still don't like it, I can return it then. I'm not going to say it's completely left my mind (that tenkeyless Shine with reds is SO tempting), but I'm really coming to like it. It's much more predictable than MX Black, and while I'm not fully used to the sound, it's growing on me. Everything about it is growing on me. Do wish Keycaps were cheaper though :\
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 15 October 2013, 01:13:40
Quote from: acer589 on Tue, 15 October 2013, 01:01:02
Okay, so I got a Type Heaven a few days ago. I pulled it out of the box and immediately hated it. It felt more... mushy than the Cherry's I've come to love. I almost put it back in the box immediately. But I figured, '**** it. MechanicalKeyboards has a 30 day return policy. If I still don't like it, I can return it then. I'm not going to say it's completely left my mind (that tenkeyless Shine with reds is SO tempting), but I'm really coming to like it. It's much more predictable than MX Black, and while I'm not fully used to the sound, it's growing on me. Everything about it is growing on me. Do wish Keycaps were cheaper though :\

This - exactly.

Use it for a few minutes and meh.

Use it for a few days and :)

Use it for a month and never look back ;)
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: tbc on Tue, 15 October 2013, 01:19:08
^not surprising really

the purpose of a cherry red is to 'not exist.' it's the zero feedback switch (no resistance, no bump, no sound).

if you like topre, it's cause you WANT feedback of a very specific sort.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: terran5992 on Tue, 15 October 2013, 01:21:50
Quote from: tbc on Tue, 15 October 2013, 01:19:08
^not surprising really

the purpose of a cherry red is to 'not exist.' it's the zero feedback switch (no resistance, no bump, no sound).

if you like topre, it's cause you WANT feedback of a very specific sort.

Fast Typers like cherry red, they feel that the feedback from browns or blues slow them down
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: fuzzybaffy on Tue, 15 October 2013, 01:25:01
^ That's not necessarily true. One of the world's fastest typists, Sean Wrona used a Cherry MX Blue keyboard for a while (not sure what he uses now, though).
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 15 October 2013, 01:25:12
^ On his website, he states that he uses Blues. I just don't see any 110+ typists (on 10FF at least) using anything but Blues or Browns.

Quote from: terran5992 on Tue, 15 October 2013, 01:21:50
Quote from: tbc on Tue, 15 October 2013, 01:19:08
^not surprising really

the purpose of a cherry red is to 'not exist.' it's the zero feedback switch (no resistance, no bump, no sound).

if you like topre, it's cause you WANT feedback of a very specific sort.

Fast Typers like cherry red, they feel that the feedback from browns or blues slow them down

It varies. The general consensus is that elite typists use MX Blue (Sean Wrona and most at his speed do as well).
I'm not near his speed (only low-140's best), but I think that Blues are infinitely better. Whoever tells you that tactility distracts from typing is definitely incorrect, because good typists get used to the mid-press bump and reset their fingers faster. Accuracy is, in all cases that I've heard, improved with Blues. Some can get higher raw speed, but there are so many more errors that the overall speed is much lower. If you want typing, Blue>Brown>Red>Black (not including rarer switches).
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Polymer on Tue, 15 October 2013, 02:10:25
All of the fastest typists bottom out though...apparently you claim you don't at 130-140..I'd l really like to see that....At slower speeds I can see it...and I can see only losing some speed in doing it..but not bottoming out completely?  Nope...I'd love to see it though..it would be something to work towards...
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 15 October 2013, 02:15:24
Quote from: Polymer on Tue, 15 October 2013, 02:10:25
All of the fastest typists bottom out though...apparently you claim you don't at 130-140..I'd l really like to see that....At slower speeds I can see it...and I can see only losing some speed in doing it..but not bottoming out completely?  Nope...I'd love to see it though..it would be something to work towards...

You're wrong. Typing without bottoming out greatly increases speed, and any good typist (including myself, if I may have the hubris of implying thus).
This is my profile: http://10fastfingers.com/user/2956/
And here's a video of me typing at 135:
You may notice that I don't bottom out often, until I start stiffening up and getting slower because of carpal tunnel.

If you want to doubt what I can do, fine, but just know that you trying to excuse bad typing technique by making false claims is laughable. Also please type correctly, using commas rather than three periods without a space afterwards, it makes you seem extremely slow in thought. Just because you type one way and think that it's good doesn't mean that it's proper, and nor does it mean that you calling me out will not get you embarrassed.

By the way, the whole point of a mechanical keyboard is to not bottom out. You don't type any faster than on a dome keyboard if you don't bottom out, because you completely lose the benefit of not having to press as far.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: tbc on Tue, 15 October 2013, 02:17:28
these people TRAIN to type fast right?  as in theytype to get faster at typing, not necessarily to do productive work. 

if that is the case, I think they would have different typing patterns than regular typists.  they would train themselves to feel the bump and consciously reset, even though this is both mentally tiring and physically 'complex'.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: fuzzybaffy on Tue, 15 October 2013, 02:23:43
Quote from: Linkbane on Tue, 15 October 2013, 02:15:24
Quote from: Polymer on Tue, 15 October 2013, 02:10:25
All of the fastest typists bottom out though...apparently you claim you don't at 130-140..I'd l really like to see that....At slower speeds I can see it...and I can see only losing some speed in doing it..but not bottoming out completely?  Nope...I'd love to see it though..it would be something to work towards...

You're wrong. Typing without bottoming out greatly increases speed, and any good typist (including myself, if I may have the hubris of implying thus).
This is my profile: http://10fastfingers.com/user/2956/
And here's a video of me typing at 135:
You may notice that I don't bottom out often, until I start stiffening up and getting slower because of carpal tunnel.

If you want to doubt what I can do, fine, but just know that you trying to excuse bad typing technique by making false claims is laughable. Also please type correctly, using commas rather than three periods without a space afterwards, it makes you seem extremely slow in thought. Just because you type one way and think that it's good doesn't mean that it's proper, and nor does it mean that you calling me out will not get you embarrassed.

By the way, the whole point of a mechanical keyboard is to not bottom out. You don't type any faster than on a dome keyboard if you don't bottom out, because you completely lose the benefit of not having to press as far.

Jesus Christ. So I see you're not just an anti-Topre troll, but a troll in general.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 15 October 2013, 02:30:43
I don't see how that's trolling at all.
I've asked many people when I was trying to get better, when I was sub-110. They all told me that (using MX Brown) it was pointless to bottom out, because you're just forcing it. A mechanical has absolutely no advantage over a rubber dome if you can't use it like it's supposed to be. The idiots who smash their boards and wonder why their speeds are so low on a mechanical fall victim to this.

Honestly though, I don't understand what your problem with my post is. I gave him the evidence that he wanted (me typing at 130-140), my profile, and everything. So unless something else is the matter?
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: fuzzybaffy on Tue, 15 October 2013, 02:38:35
You think saying things like:

Quote
it makes you seem extremely slow in thought.

Isn't trolling?
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 15 October 2013, 02:40:08
Quote from: fuzzybaffy on Tue, 15 October 2013, 02:38:35
You think saying things like:

Quote
it makes you seem extremely slow in thought.

Isn't trolling?

It's just me being irritated at bad grammar. I guess Grammar Nazism can be confused for trolling, my bad?
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Polymer on Tue, 15 October 2013, 02:54:43
Quote from: Linkbane on Tue, 15 October 2013, 02:15:24
Quote from: Polymer on Tue, 15 October 2013, 02:10:25
All of the fastest typists bottom out though...apparently you claim you don't at 130-140..I'd l really like to see that....At slower speeds I can see it...and I can see only losing some speed in doing it..but not bottoming out completely?  Nope...I'd love to see it though..it would be something to work towards...

You're wrong. Typing without bottoming out greatly increases speed, and any good typist (including myself, if I may have the hubris of implying thus).
This is my profile: http://10fastfingers.com/user/2956/
And here's a video of me typing at 135:
You may notice that I don't bottom out often, until I start stiffening up and getting slower because of carpal tunnel.

If you want to doubt what I can do, fine, but just know that you trying to excuse bad typing technique by making false claims is laughable. Also please type correctly, using commas rather than three periods without a space afterwards, it makes you seem extremely slow in thought. Just because you type one way and think that it's good doesn't mean that it's proper, and nor does it mean that you calling me out will not get you embarrassed.

By the way, the whole point of a mechanical keyboard is to not bottom out. You don't type any faster than on a dome keyboard if you don't bottom out, because you completely lose the benefit of not having to press as far.

You're most definitely bottoming out....it even sounds like it...watch Wrona type...watch those typing competitions..they're all bottoming out..as do you...

And this coming from the guy that has an opinion on every keyboard but has tried almost none of them?  I'm not 130+wpm fast but I'm 120+wpm fast...which is perfectly fine with me....and I'm still using QWERTY..

Yes, I'm calling you out..and you proved my point..you bottom out..thanks for proving yet again, that people do bottom out when they're going for speed.  So who is embarrassed?  Not I...thanks again for allowing me to body slam.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 15 October 2013, 03:00:49
^
I don't bottom out often. Probably about 20-30% of the time, which is good enough for me for the saved effort. Wrona bottoms out a lot and slams keys, he's fine, because his mind is miles ahead of ours, but most people get better by learning better technique and practicing, which is something that Sean bypassed with being a BA.
If you can't even type out proper posts, I doubt that you can type over 120.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Polymer on Tue, 15 October 2013, 03:06:28
Quote from: Linkbane on Tue, 15 October 2013, 03:00:49
^
I don't bottom out often. Probably about 20-30% of the time, which is good enough for me for the saved effort. Wrona bottoms out a lot and slams keys, he's fine, because his mind is miles ahead of ours, but most people get better by learning better technique and practicing, which is something that Sean bypassed with being a BA.
If you can't even type out proper posts, I doubt that you can type over 120.

You bottom out quite often..again, you said you don't bottom out...and I've said, you can't get at that speed and not bottom out.  Who made the false statement?  You only proved my point....

And because I use "...." which I've been doing in posts probably longer than you've been alive, that is a reflection on how fast I type?  Seriously, if I was interested in getting faster I'd used a different layout that I know works better (see how you rarely move from home row with DVORAK?) but I'm pretty happy with where I'm at...I don't need anymore speed...Just as you're happy with your speed and bottoming out more often than you think but not on every stroke...

So hows the Topre stuff you have an opinion on but have never touched?  Or PBT keycaps which you seem to have an opinion about what is better but have never actually used?
What? BOOM. 
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Michael on Tue, 15 October 2013, 03:22:10
At what point do you guys realize that Linkbane is simply trolling you? Best to simply ignore his obnoxiousness. He is better off arguing with himself, as in his eyes, he can be the only
correct one, and regardless of logic pointed out to him, will continue in his blatant ignorance.



He brings nothing of value to any discussion that I have seen thus far.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: fuzzybaffy on Tue, 15 October 2013, 04:14:49
Quote from: Linkbane on Tue, 15 October 2013, 02:40:08
Quote from: fuzzybaffy on Tue, 15 October 2013, 02:38:35
You think saying things like:

Quote
it makes you seem extremely slow in thought.

Isn't trolling?

It's just me being irritated at bad grammar. I guess Grammar Nazism can be confused for trolling, my bad?

=D

Quote
At what point do you guys realize that Linkbane is simply trolling you? Best to simply ignore his obnoxiousness. He is better off arguing with himself, as in his eyes, he can be the only
correct one, and regardless of logic pointed out to him, will continue in his blatant ignorance.



He brings nothing of value to any discussion that I have seen thus far.

This is true. I guess I'll stop talking to him now.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Thimplum on Tue, 15 October 2013, 08:22:55
Quote from: fuzzybaffy on Tue, 15 October 2013, 02:38:35
You think saying things like:

Quote
it makes you seem extremely slow in thought.

Isn't trolling?


That's out of context. I'm not saying that LinkBane isn't a troll(though I kinda am too lol), but that post was correct and thoughtful,
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Thimplum on Tue, 15 October 2013, 08:23:50
Quote from: Bro Caps on Tue, 15 October 2013, 03:22:10
He brings nothing of value to any discussion that I have seen thus far.

sorta
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 15 October 2013, 08:27:50
Quote from: unicomp_uc on Tue, 15 October 2013, 00:45:18
Quote from: ctbear on Tue, 15 October 2013, 00:36:40
Quote from: noisyturtle on Mon, 14 October 2013, 03:32:18
If feels overrated.

You must be really bored to keep spreading your "disappointment" about Topre switches in every related thread.

God.... Agreed. He is like this:


And why is offering an opposing view to a question of how something feels a bad thing? This isn't a "I love Topre" thread. The OP asked a specific question. Not every answer should be that it's amazing.

With that being said, I think it feels pretty nice. Not OH MY GOD amazing.

More than anything, I appreciate the HHKB more than Topre itself. The layout and form factor are pretty amazing. I didn't think I would ever be able to, let alone, want to use a 60% board.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Polymer on Tue, 15 October 2013, 08:28:51
Quote from: Thimplum on Tue, 15 October 2013, 08:22:55
Quote from: fuzzybaffy on Tue, 15 October 2013, 02:38:35
You think saying things like:

Quote
it makes you seem extremely slow in thought.

Isn't trolling?


That's out of context. I'm not saying that LinkBane isn't a troll(though I kinda am too lol), but that post was correct and thoughtful,

It was thoughtful?  Because someone does this? "..." that is thoughtful?  Not only that be he was factually wrong..

Again, show us typing where you're not bottoming out at 130+wpm and I'll say that person is right...I haven't seen it..I don't think people can do it...when you're typing for speed, you will bottom out..maybe not every time but you will bottom out..often...

Then it changes to "oh...well with 30% bottoming out"..it was actually more than that but it doesn't matter...

I'm not sure how my question got posed to whether I think someone can type whatever WPM they're claiming to..no reason to not believe them..This is a keyboard forum, I'm sure plenty of people type fast on here....

Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 15 October 2013, 08:50:48
Bro Caps still holds a grudge after I made fun of his selling of a CC for somewhere around the $400 range.
Polymer, it's honestly a waste of time trying to convince someone who is assured that they are correct. Good luck getting any faster typing, keep on hammering those keys.
And thimplum, sorry for having to go keyboard warrior on every thread. It's annoying that every time someone disagrees with me, Bro Caps has to drop off in the thread and inflate his ego by insulting me. Just going to do the sane thing and block him.

Closing remarks, bottoming out =/= fast typing. I've already disproved your point by not always bottoming out as you say that all fast typists do, so I don't know what else there is to argue. Bro Caps is the most annoying troll that I've ever had the misfortune to meet, who finds interest in stalking threads that I post in, making completely OT posts so that he can 'get at' me.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 15 October 2013, 09:05:05
Quote from: Linkbane on Tue, 15 October 2013, 08:50:48
Bro Caps still holds a grudge after I made fun of his selling of a CC for somewhere around the $400 range.
Polymer, it's honestly a waste of time trying to convince someone who is assured that they are correct. Good luck getting any faster typing, keep on hammering those keys.
And thimplum, sorry for having to go keyboard warrior on every thread. It's annoying that every time someone disagrees with me, Bro Caps has to drop off in the thread and inflate his ego by insulting me. Just going to do the sane thing and block him.

Closing remarks, bottoming out =/= fast typing. I've already disproved your point by not always bottoming out as you say that all fast typists do, so I don't know what else there is to argue. Bro Caps is the most annoying troll that I've ever had the misfortune to meet, who finds interest in stalking threads that I post in, making completely OT posts so that he can 'get at' me.

I don't want to take sides in this pointless debate, but I must point out this:

It seems to me that you are the one that has issues with everyone else, not visa-versa.  BroCaps is a (reasonably) well respected member of the community, and has been here for years before you showed up.  Now all of the sudden HE is the troll?  Sorry, don't think so...

Not to mention that you have already had several conflicts with many other forum members (myself included).  And again, you blame everyone else for these altercations instead of manning up and admitting that you're wrong.  If you were right, people would tend to agree with your statement(s).

Final key point: your opinions aren't the same as everyone else's, so don't force them onto people as though they are undisputed facts.

*End rant*
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Polymer on Tue, 15 October 2013, 09:20:03
Quote from: Linkbane on Tue, 15 October 2013, 08:50:48
Closing remarks, bottoming out =/= fast typing. I've already disproved your point by not always bottoming out as you say that all fast typists do, so I don't know what else there is to argue.

ALWAYS bottoming out is not bottoming out on every keystroke.. It means you bottom out while typing but obviously some of it won't be if you're typing fast enough... YOU bottom out while typing fast...Fact.  I can see how you mis-read it..but it doesn't make sense that I'd argue that every single keystroke hits bottom because that doesn't happen...it isn't a logical argument to make or a good one..which is why I didn't make it..but you thought I did...

Show me a fast typist that does not bottom out (you bottom out) and I'll agree it can exist...Until then, fact remains..fastest typists all bottom out when typing for speed.  I'd even say if they only bottom out 1-2% of the time, that is pretty darn good.  Your theory of the fastest typers and proper form is not bottoming out hasn't held water..not one person on GH has shown it does....Wrona, all of the competitors all bottom out.

Here's what I said originally btw:
"
All of the fastest typists bottom out though...apparently you claim you don't at 130-140..I'd l really like to see that....At slower speeds I can see it...and I can see only losing some speed in doing it..but not bottoming out completely?  Nope...I'd love to see it though..it would be something to work towards..
"

Topre PBT Bottom Out.

Game Set Match. 
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Thimplum on Tue, 15 October 2013, 09:44:24
Quote from: Linkbane on Tue, 15 October 2013, 08:50:48
Bro Caps is the most annoying troll that I've ever had the misfortune to meet

Haha, I sorta agree. He makes some sweet caps like the metal brobot, but deep down inside he's just an edgy perv.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Michael on Tue, 15 October 2013, 11:02:46
Quote from: Thimplum on Tue, 15 October 2013, 09:44:24
Quote from: Linkbane on Tue, 15 October 2013, 08:50:48
Bro Caps is the most annoying troll that I've ever had the misfortune to meet

Haha, I sorta agree. He makes some sweet caps like the metal brobot, but deep down inside he's just an edgy perv.


That's a cool story, bro. The fact is, you provide no value to any discussion on these threads, you ride the **** of our most famous trolls (ones that are actually good at it), and speak from the least knowledgeable standpoints.


Go back under your troll bridge until you learn how to master that art.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Michael on Tue, 15 October 2013, 11:04:31
Quote from: Linkbane on Tue, 15 October 2013, 08:50:48
Bro Caps still holds a grudge after I made fun of his selling of a CC for somewhere around the $400 range.
Polymer, it's honestly a waste of time trying to convince someone who is assured that they are correct. Good luck getting any faster typing, keep on hammering those keys.
And thimplum, sorry for having to go keyboard warrior on every thread. It's annoying that every time someone disagrees with me, Bro Caps has to drop off in the thread and inflate his ego by insulting me. Just going to do the sane thing and block him.

Closing remarks, bottoming out =/= fast typing. I've already disproved your point by not always bottoming out as you say that all fast typists do, so I don't know what else there is to argue. Bro Caps is the most annoying troll that I've ever had the misfortune to meet, who finds interest in stalking threads that I post in, making completely OT posts so that he can 'get at' me.


I am glad you feel that you have any real effect on my state of mind. The fact is, you are a minor annoyance, as I am sure most members here feel about you.


You are a hypocrite to the highest degree. You should really learn to play nicer, and maybe people will do the same with you.
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Thimplum on Tue, 15 October 2013, 11:16:06
I'm sorry for hurting your feelings, Bro Caps.

Back on topic...
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Michael on Tue, 15 October 2013, 11:27:43
I'm sorry, were you saying something?


(http://i.imgur.com/zLSAFVg.png)
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: Thimplum on Tue, 15 October 2013, 11:40:19
Quote from: Bro Caps on Tue, 15 October 2013, 11:27:43
I'm sorry, were you saying something?


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/zLSAFVg.png)


 :thumb:
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Tue, 15 October 2013, 22:27:48
Quote from: Bro Caps on Tue, 15 October 2013, 11:27:43
I'm sorry, were you saying something?


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/zLSAFVg.png)


She said she is sorry and wants to go back on topic...
You probably accidentally set Thimplum on ignore which is the reason you can't read her posts!
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: tuxsavvy on Wed, 16 October 2013, 05:32:55
Quote from: dbme on Fri, 11 October 2013, 09:22:12
Like this (http://i.minus.com/iE4mxEtBBfrSy.gif)

... and becomes this? http://ziza.qip.ru/other/112006/27/links/l2.jpg  ;D

**Edit: I have yet to receive my dose of Topre...
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: terran5992 on Wed, 16 October 2013, 05:43:03
Quote from: tuxsavvy on Wed, 16 October 2013, 05:32:55
Quote from: dbme on Fri, 11 October 2013, 09:22:12
Like this (http://i.minus.com/iE4mxEtBBfrSy.gif)

... and becomes this? http://ziza.qip.ru/other/112006/27/links/l2.jpg  ;D

**Edit: I have yet to receive my dose of Topre...

Wut da fk
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: tuxsavvy on Wed, 16 October 2013, 05:45:50
Quote from: terran5992 on Wed, 16 October 2013, 05:43:03
Quote from: tuxsavvy on Wed, 16 October 2013, 05:32:55
Quote from: dbme on Fri, 11 October 2013, 09:22:12
Like this (http://i.minus.com/iE4mxEtBBfrSy.gif)

... and becomes this? http://ziza.qip.ru/other/112006/27/links/l2.jpg  ;D

**Edit: I have yet to receive my dose of Topre...

Wut da fk
Just some old post about one comparing *ahem* keyboard to penis erection, I thought it might be a worthy joke to say that it doesn't stay like that forever (in terms of male genitalia). Though there was a thread about Topre's rubber dome wearing out anyway (after like about five years worth of use).
Title: Re: How does it feel to use a topre?
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 16 October 2013, 05:46:40
Quote from: terran5992 on Wed, 16 October 2013, 05:43:03
Quote from: tuxsavvy on Wed, 16 October 2013, 05:32:55
Quote from: dbme on Fri, 11 October 2013, 09:22:12
Like this (http://i.minus.com/iE4mxEtBBfrSy.gif)

... and becomes this? http://ziza.qip.ru/other/112006/27/links/l2.jpg  ;D

**Edit: I have yet to receive my dose of Topre...

Wut da fk

Yes, but not after about 50.