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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: isaske on Sat, 12 October 2013, 05:00:55
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I'm looking for green alps, they can also be used.
Also, does a TKL version of a green alps keyboard exist?
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Please get 60 posts and submit this in the classifieds forum instead! :)
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Please get 60 posts and submit this in the classifieds forum instead! :)
Haha, how should to number 60 that quickly :D
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Please get 60 posts and submit this in the classifieds forum instead! :)
Haha, how should to number 60 that quickly :D
Post "GLWS" on all classifieds!
(jk)
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kekek :D
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Posting in classifieds dosent add to your post count
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Please get 60 posts and submit this in the classifieds forum instead! :)
Haha, how should to number 60 that quickly :D
No but for real, if you keep active in this forum you will get 60 posts quite quickly! Itīs just to sort out spammers/scammers!
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Yes, it's just that i thought this place would be alright for such a thread.
Thought someone would would come up with a response here.
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I have an old electric typewriter that has green Alps - you might have a look at online auction sites to see if anything similar is available.
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Green is real gold.
In this country, the other day I saw that 110 green switches were sold for $100.(while yellows were just $20.) Green Alps fans seem to be crazy... Ya, green is my favorite.
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Green is real gold.
In this country, the other day I saw that 110 green switches were sold for $100.(while yellows were just $20.) Green Alps fans seem to be crazy... Ya, green is my favorite.
Well, that's A LOT for green alps. Oh well, the legacy sure does pay well
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I have an old electric typewriter that has green Alps - you might have a look at online auction sites to see if anything similar is available.
Oh thanks.
By the way, i already contacted qtan, because i saw duckies with green alps on the chinese taobao. I just hope they are legit. Last time i ordered from taobao, i got the right PBT switches, all side printed, the only problem being that fonts were completely different. On the site, it says that they're all the same. Don't know whether i should go for it ...
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Those are Green XM switches.
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Those are Green XM switches.
The ducky? No, qtan also said those are green alps.
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Those are Green XM switches.
The ducky? No, qtan also said those are green alps.
I wouldn't argue with an employee of Ducky. I think he knows what he is talking about.
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Those are Green XM switches.
The ducky? No, qtan also said those are green alps.
I wouldn't argue with an employee of Ducky. I think he knows what he is talking about.
Okay, i had no idea that he is an employee.
But wait, what is this then;
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Those are Green XM switches.
The ducky? No, qtan also said those are green alps.
There's a difference between Green Linear Alps (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKCL/SKCM_Series#Green_complicated) and Green XM Alps (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Ducky_DK1087#Xiang_Min_KSB). Should be a little more specific in what you're looking for.
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Does the feel differ a lot?
I just want the ones that are in the video. The ones that are in the ducky.
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Yes they feel different. Don't know where you can get Green XM switches loose but the Ducky 1087XM should be available.
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Yes they feel different. Don't know where you can get Green XM switches loose but the Ducky 1087XM should be available.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.3.m6ylal&id=17104072180
this, i think, has to be the one im looking for. Now im only waiting for qtan to reply whether he can proxy and tell me the shipping costs.
I think this one is the same as the one in the video.
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You are in the right way if you want XM.
Misuse of the word Alps just cuased the confusion. I don't blame you :)
We need good termninology and consensus to discuss properly.
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Misuse of the word Alps just cuased the confusion. I don't blame you :)
We need good termninology and consensus to discuss properly.
Totally agree, my comment before was a little bit harsh but Alps are a confusing switch and I just wanted to be clear ^__^.
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You are in the right way if you want XM.
Misuse of the word Alps just cuased the confusion. I don't blame you :)
We need good termninology and consensus to discuss properly.
Oh thanks, i just needed one person to clarify if those are the right switches :D
Thanks a lot!
Also, captain badass, no harsh feelings, it's always useful if someone provides even more thorough information
Much appreciated :thumb:
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I must be confused because I thought the basic question was "What kind of boards have green alps?" I would like to know the answer to that one. I know salmon alps on on the original Apple Extended Keyboard, black alps are on the Dell AT 101, multiple boards have white alps - so educate me some more please.
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"What kind of boards have green alps?"
If we're going with Green Complicated linear Alps (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKCL/SKCM_Series#Green_complicated), the most common board I've seen with them is the Zenith ZKB-2 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50201.0).
If we're talking about the XM Green Alps (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Ducky_DK1087#Xiang_Min_KSB), then the only board I've ever seen with them is the Ducky 1087XM.
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I realize they are pricey but worth a look (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=269) Granted this would only really work if you could find an alps board to transplant them into.
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I <3 my Ducky 1087XM
it sounds like it's raining when I am typing away
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You are in the right way if you want XM.
Misuse of the word Alps just cuased the confusion. I don't blame you :)
We need good termninology and consensus to discuss properly.
We do have it ...
Ducky keyboards use Xiang Min KSB series (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Xiang_Min_KSB_series) switches, specifically KSB-C (clicky), KSB-N (linear), and KSB-LE (linear with LED) for the lock keys. These are a type of Alps clone switches.
The type of switch often referred to as "XM" in the past is most likely to be a Hua-Jie AK series (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Hua-Jie_AK_series) switch, typically AK-CN2. Monterey have confirmed that Hua-Jie (at the time, Himake) were their source of Alps clones, and the photo I received from Hua-Jie is an exact match. The three types of switch numbering confirmed used by Hua-Jie would make them by far the most common brand of Alps clone found in keyboards sold in the West. Unfortunately we don't have enough evidence yet to confirm which switches are AK-CN2/DN2, which are the lower rating AK-C2/D2 (no longer sold), and what product the other switches out there were (the ones with all the weird internals but the same numbering).
Specific exceptions are the Filco Zero XM and Ducky *XM which are confirmed as XM by the Filco and Ducky respectively. Matias also confirmed the use of XM switches for their LED keys in the Tactile Pro 3 (don't know for sure about the TP and TP2 — I need good photos to check). There's little else where XM has been confirmed, and most so-called "XM" switches appear to be Hua-Jie AK-CN2. (Xiang Min KSB-C and Hua-Jie AK-CN2 (2) (replacing AK-C2) are internally identical, but the plastic moulds are distinct with different numbering. There's a lot of crossover between the two: they appear to be using the same supplier for the metal parts, and placing them into their own plastic mouldings. Neither company has been willing to comment on this in my conversations with them.)
There's still a lot of speculation, but a lot of the mystery is gone now. We are also clear on recognising Taiwan Tai-Hao's APC series Alps clones, as they also have very specific numbering that they've stuck to. There are still a load of switches out there that remain unidentified, but they're all the extremely rare ones.
There's nothing to stop someone ordering a group buy of switches from any of these companies, of course.
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Nice write up! Daniel,
I hope we all can read and understand it and get Alps literacy in the end.