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Title: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 30 October 2013, 16:18:25: Anybody seen this lately?

(http://servicingstopblog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/new-jeep-cherokee-beach.jpg)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2013/03/2014cherokee33-opt.jpg)

So do you think it's cool, or just butt ugly? I'm siding with the "butt ugly" view.
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 30 October 2013, 16:19:35: Front is pretty cool..

The back bumper part with the matt black goes too high up.. If they brought that down just a bit.. or painted it differently.. It'd be better.

As is the back looks like 2 very disjointed pieces.. like it was just taped together..
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 30 October 2013, 16:19:52: As a jeep grand cherokee owner...that thing....is....UGLY
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 30 October 2013, 16:21:44: Ugly. And sad, because the model before this one was actually very, very nice.
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 30 October 2013, 16:22:17: Ugly. Majorly ugly. That disgraces the name of Jeep.
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: iri on Wed, 30 October 2013, 16:29:21: it looks like it ate something very sour
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: vivalarevolución on Wed, 30 October 2013, 16:32:08: All I know is they need to bring back the Scrambler and Comanche. The small pickup truck market is sparse and could use something new.
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: Findecanor on Wed, 30 October 2013, 16:37:36: Ugly. It looks like one car stacked on top of another, especially from the back.
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 30 October 2013, 16:41:56: Maybe they were taking some design gestures from this ugly thing:
(http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/2012-mazda-cx-9.jpg)

Why have one grill when you can have two?
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 30 October 2013, 17:24:04: For a Jeep, it's ugly as sin. For a modern SUV it's completely forgettable save for that weird front grill.
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: demik on Wed, 30 October 2013, 18:10:16: back looks like the older (07) subaru tribeca
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: Lu_e on Wed, 30 October 2013, 18:27:33: Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 30 October 2013, 16:21:44
Ugly. And sad, because the model before this one was actually very, very nice.

...and the model before that, because it was the last to have a solid rear axle.
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 30 October 2013, 18:48:10: 1 tier higher than Pontiac Aztec
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 30 October 2013, 23:32:39: Hmm I dont like the direction those are going.. But the Wrangler JK oh man those look nice!
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 31 October 2013, 01:15:31: Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 30 October 2013, 16:22:17
Ugly. Majorly ugly. That disgraces the name of Jeep.

Totally agree. The ONLY best ever Jeep that was made is the Willy's Model. Tough, reliable and built for men to drive over any terrain.

The SH!T that is made now is only for car parks and shopping centers. Which is a pity because you've got other manufacturers that have made better vehicles for that type of habitat.

They should of stuck to their original designs and maybe by now we would of gotten a flexible Jeep design able to cross rivers, mud plains and embankments with ease, instead of ugly, weird shaped rubbish, that looks like it was designed and made by incompetent morons.

I suspect from now on, who would be game enough to stand up and admit to owning that current Jeep, in a crowded room?
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 31 October 2013, 01:18:53: I really really like 4 Door 07+ Wranglers!

(http://i44.tinypic.com/23w7582.jpg)
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 31 October 2013, 01:24:30: Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 30 October 2013, 18:48:10
1 tier higher than Pontiac Aztec

Is it bad that that car grew on me a little? At least it's functional.

And you may disagree, but the Pontiac Aztec and Toyota Prius are the same damn car, only one of them sits a little higher because it's an SUV/crossover and not a sedan.
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: cactux on Thu, 31 October 2013, 01:33:17: I like better the classic Jeep form
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 31 October 2013, 01:35:20: Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 30 October 2013, 16:19:35
Front is pretty cool..

The back bumper part with the matt black goes too high up.. If they brought that down just a bit.. or painted it differently.. It'd be better.

As is the back looks like 2 very disjointed pieces.. like it was just taped together..
This
front is pretty, back is ugly
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 31 October 2013, 02:42:08: FUGLY!

They seem to be drinking the same water as the Nissan Juke designers...

Quote from: dustinhxc on Thu, 31 October 2013, 01:18:53
I really really like 4 Door 07+ Wranglers!

Show Image
(http://i44.tinypic.com/23w7582.jpg)

This I could live with, though.
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 31 October 2013, 08:14:39: Quote from: Oobly on Thu, 31 October 2013, 02:42:08
FUGLY!

They seem to be drinking the same water as the Nissan Juke designers...

Quote from: dustinhxc on Thu, 31 October 2013, 01:18:53
I really really like 4 Door 07+ Wranglers!

Show Image
(http://i44.tinypic.com/23w7582.jpg)

This I could live with, though.

If those Jeep designers are drinking something, I can tell you for sure it's something more than water.
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 31 October 2013, 08:16:57: Quote from: Elrick on Thu, 31 October 2013, 01:15:31
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 30 October 2013, 16:22:17
Ugly. Majorly ugly. That disgraces the name of Jeep.

Totally agree. The ONLY best ever Jeep that was made is the Willy's Model. Tough, reliable and built for men to drive over any terrain.

The SH!T that is made now is only for car parks and shopping centers. Which is a pity because you've got other manufacturers that have made better vehicles for that type of habitat.

They should of stuck to their original designs and maybe by now we would of gotten a flexible Jeep design able to cross rivers, mud plains and embankments with ease, instead of ugly, weird shaped rubbish, that looks like it was designed and made by incompetent morons.

I suspect from now on, who would be game enough to stand up and admit to owning that current Jeep, in a crowded room?

My stepdad has a Willy's pickup. It's the toughest truck on the planet. Survived a tree falling on it, all we had to replace was the cab.
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 31 October 2013, 09:13:01: Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 31 October 2013, 08:16:57
<snip>
My stepdad has a Willy's pickup. It's the toughest truck on the planet. Survived a tree falling on it, all we had to replace was the cab.

Hmmmm....

I agree that the Willy's is the toughest JEEP, but toughest in the world? I beg to differ.

Land Rover Defender vs Toyota Land Cruiser vs Willy's Jeep.... FIGHT!

I reckon the Landy would come out on top in terms of toughness / durability / ability. You find Landy spares almost anywhere in Africa due to how popular they are in countries with bad / nonexistent roads (for good reason). Land Cruiser comes a very close 2nd.

Volkswagen are trying to capture some of that market with their Amarok. May succeed, too. Looks better than that new Jeep at least:

(http://image.motortrend.com/f/features/consumer/1112_future_compact_pickup_truck/28362694/07z-2010-volkswagen-Amarok-front-view.jpg)
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: kishy on Thu, 31 October 2013, 09:50:07: I saw two of the new Cherokees roaming around without plates in Flat Rock, MI (which isn't so far from where they're being assembled in OH) and thought they were one of the ugliest vehicles I've seen in person.

Other vehicles well known for being ugly have some distinctive trait that makes them so. These are an all-in-one package of nasty. The proportions are off, the headlights are too narrow, the grille (while maintaining a trademark image) doesn't work on the body at all. The tail lights are tiny and proportionately too high up. It's just overall bad.

Despite this, I'm sure it will sell well because people want a higher seating position while hauling their kids and various belongings around which would fit perfectly fine in a proper sedan. The last true SUV is probably the Wrangler, and before that, the Bronco and K5. Everything else is a mutation of the full size station wagon, a body style that never should have been retired.
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: vun on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:02:02: It does look ugly, but they do seem to have at least attempted to make it look good and detail it properly, as opposed to your average american car that just looks like a bloated corpse of a car.
So it's a hideous car, but it's an american car that at least somewhat resembles a normal car for once.
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:40:35: Quote from: vun on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:02:02
It does look ugly, but they do seem to have at least attempted to make it look good and detail it properly, as opposed to your average american car that just looks like a bloated corpse of a car.
So it's a hideous car, but it's an american car that at least somewhat resembles a normal car for once.

If that monstrosity they called the jeep cherokee resembled a NORMAL car, I would've gone blind long ago! ;)
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: Michael on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:42:55: Did you use the Busey scale?

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=ugly_cars (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=ugly_cars)
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: vun on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:46:44: Quote from: microsoft windows on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:40:35
Quote from: vun on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:02:02
It does look ugly, but they do seem to have at least attempted to make it look good and detail it properly, as opposed to your average american car that just looks like a bloated corpse of a car.
So it's a hideous car, but it's an american car that at least somewhat resembles a normal car for once.

If that monstrosity they called the jeep cherokee resembled a NORMAL car, I would've gone blind long ago! ;)

It's got detailing similar to what you'll see on european cars, which is a step in the right direction. The overall shape is still crap, and the detailing still looks bad, but it's still a step in the right direction compared to your average american car design.
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 31 October 2013, 12:48:34: Does everybody in the car industry have the same sense of bad style? Do they ask common folk about styling, or just soccer moms and stereotypical boring accountant?
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: eth0s on Thu, 31 October 2013, 13:01:09: Quote from: prdlm2009 on Thu, 31 October 2013, 12:48:34
Does everybody in the car industry have the same sense of bad style? Do they ask common folk about styling, or just soccer moms and stereotypical boring accountant?

No. It looks like the Fiat guys who own Jeep wanted to make the Grand Cherokee look more like a Fiat. And they succeeded. That new Grand Cherokee looks like a half-Jeep, half-Fiat hybrid piece of crap. Or crapola as they say in Italy.
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: davkol on Thu, 31 October 2013, 13:28:09: Quote from: demik on Wed, 30 October 2013, 18:10:16
back looks like the older (07) subaru tribeca

More like Ford Kuga. The lights are exactly the same.
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: iri on Thu, 31 October 2013, 14:12:45: Quote from: Bro Caps on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:42:55
Did you use the Busey scale?

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=ugly_cars (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=ugly_cars)
wow, maddox's homepage still exists.
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 31 October 2013, 17:17:59: So my wife showed me the new Cherokee today and said this looks nice! Now I kind of think it is nice but still not as nice as the wrangler .
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 31 October 2013, 18:57:11: Quote from: dustinhxc on Thu, 31 October 2013, 17:17:59
So my wife showed me the new Cherokee today and said this looks nice!

Time to divorce her instantly. Remember to hide all off shore accounts before letting her know your intent. Get the best lawyer money could buy, you'll need him because she'll try and scrape every cent out of you and better to deal with such threats, through a 3rd party immediately.

That is why my mrs keeps quiet about cars 8) .
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 31 October 2013, 19:05:46: Quote from: prdlm2009 on Thu, 31 October 2013, 12:48:34
Does everybody in the car industry have the same sense of bad style? Do they ask common folk about styling, or just soccer moms and stereotypical boring accountant?

To me it seems like many new cars all look the same.

Same with computers and keyboards - all the same these days. Back in the day every manufacturer would produce something different, and usually incompatible with other manufacturers.
Title: Re: New Jeep Cherokee: Ugly or Cool?
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 31 October 2013, 19:12:45: Dog Ugly