I'm really not expecting anything great from the movie since I love the book to bits and I really don't want to get my hopes up. I haven't seen it yet, but if it's actually good I will be so happy!
I'm really not expecting anything great from the movie since I love the book to bits and I really don't want to get my hopes up. I haven't seen it yet, but if it's actually good I will be so happy!
I hope it is available in 2D when it comes here, otherwise I will not see it.
I hope it is available in 2D when it comes here, otherwise I will not see it.
Why's that, are you 3D-slexic?
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People who do not like a certain movie because of its "STORY", DO NOT watch enough movies..
They are indeed ALL THE SAME.
Every possible story arc has been done.
Every possible story arc relies on "inconvenient-miscommunication" or "irrational human decisions" generate the distress.
The whole point of continuing to watch movies, is to escape, however briefly, into imagination...
There's no reason to quantify the "originality" of human affairs.. since it's a relative figure towards any individual, and is technically already depleted..
Humans are simple.. as are our stories...Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion_custom/th_0suit.gif)
People who do not like a certain movie because of its "STORY", DO NOT watch enough movies..
They are indeed ALL THE SAME.
Every possible story arc has been done.
Every possible story arc relies on "inconvenient-miscommunication" or "irrational human decisions" generate the distress.
The whole point of continuing to watch movies, is to escape, however briefly, into imagination...
There's no reason to quantify the "originality" of human affairs.. since it's a relative figure towards any individual, and is technically already depleted..
Humans are simple.. as are our stories...Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion_custom/th_0suit.gif)
I much prefer plot-driven shows to character-driven shows. In recent years there has been an unfortunate drift in the wrong direction, in my opinion.
Tough book to turn into a movie, I thought they did a good job.
Tough book to turn into a movie, I thought they did a good job.
Tough book to turn into a movie, I thought they did a good job.
See, I didn't for that exact reason. You can't fit a whole book into a 1hr 30-2hr movie so why bother? Instead of them crafting there own take on the book they just seemed to follow the book (I've never read it) and so the movie was full of random throw away lines that are never mentioned again... like why, whats the point? May sound like nothing but all the dumb meaningless unexplained throw away lines add up to just a story where all the context and explanation is done with dumb one liners that are never mentioned again.
Another thing I'd like to add.... the opening sequence where we see the hero being all heroic in a fighter jet... WHO THE **** WAS FILMING HIM!? Even at the end when they show you the whole sequence they show even more footage of him leaving the plane... the plane that then flies into the alien space ship.... HOW DID THEY EVEN GET THAT FOOTAGE BACK?!
So many random dumb elements to the movie that never needed to be there that just scream THIS WAS A BOOK, SO DON'T WORRY IT ALL MAKES SENSE... SEE???!!
They took out the unnecessary details, and preserved the main arc...
They took out the unnecessary details, and preserved the main arc...
Except they didn't do a good job, instead of having any detail or any aspect of anything remotely interesting about the story beyond the main plot (which isn't all that exciting anyway), you're treated to random throw away lines that have no place being there;
like how ender is the 3rd child and how they needed special permission for him to be born, wait what?
...and another good one is why the super hero bloke has Mauri face tattoo's and some nonsense about him having NZ parents or something? Why? Why did that need to happen? What world did he originally fight in? I didn't know NZ had an airforce of any real significance, before or during the attack did the earth form some giant super army?
It's meaningless nonsense added to the film to make it seem like there is alot going on but it does the exact opposite and makes it feel superficial and pointless.
and when I first saw that opening hero sequence I thought it was a rendering done by the future people of what they though happened.... and was gutted to later find out that no, that was actually what happened and that for some ****ing dumb reason they not only fitted HD cameras looking at the pilot but they also had flying film crews recording it all....
I find the biggest problem with movies being adapted from books is that if the book's great but the movie isn't then people who haven't read the book get turned off from reading it.
Also I totally agree with you that movies that have their origins in books should be more of an adaption of the original story rather than trying to cram it all into feature film length.
(Peter was barely in it).
PS: How could they not call them "buggers"?? Ender never uttered the word "Formec"
They left out the Demosthenes/Locke sub-plot? Unbelievable! That was absolutely crucial, and especially so if they are looking to set up the sequels!
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Wait, are we in the right sub-forum for this topic?
I wanted to see Ender's Game tonight, but instead saw Gravity. It was...interesting. Not a bad movie, but not my favorite either. I wish I had seen Ender's Game instead. There's always the future though.
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Then what is the "game"?
The fundamental concept of the whole story was that the "game" was remote control via ansible of a battle fleet launched decades earlier, right?
Was the Giant's Head and the Hive Queen left out, too?
What's left?
The ending to the movie is terrible and in no way sets up a sequel... the more I think about it, the worse I think the movie actually was... they should have taken a small aspect from the book and made that into a movie and see if it made money, if it did continue the story and flesh it out more... but the movie is so crampt and ends so suddenly...Haven't seen the movie and not sure I'll bother to, but I'm really really sick of annoying cliffhanger endings or open-ended epilogues in every movie these days, due to greedy studios/producers trying to turn everything into an endless franchise instead of just making a decent movie.
studios/producers trying to turn everything into an endless franchise
The ending to the movie is terrible and in no way sets up a sequel... the more I think about it, the worse I think the movie actually was... they should have taken a small aspect from the book and made that into a movie and see if it made money, if it did continue the story and flesh it out more... but the movie is so crampt and ends so suddenly...Haven't seen the movie and not sure I'll bother to, but I'm really really sick of annoying cliffhanger endings or open-ended epilogues in every movie these days, due to greedy studios/producers trying to turn everything into an endless franchise instead of just making a decent movie.
Obviously. That has nothing to do with what I said though. You can make sequels without having every one of the movies end like an episode of a low-budget soap opera - a la all the Marvel moves, Pirates of the Caribbean, the Dark Knight, etc.studios/producers trying to turn everything into an endless franchise
The franchise already exists and could have a good run.
You can make sequels without having every one of the movies end like an episode of a low-budget soap opera
All of that was in the books. At the time of the first war, the earth had to unite under one government to fight effectively. This would have been after china was burned and before they won. Population control is even mentioned in the movie as a problem for both species.They took out the unnecessary details, and preserved the main arc...
Except they didn't do a good job, instead of having any detail or any aspect of anything remotely interesting about the story beyond the main plot (which isn't all that exciting anyway), you're treated to random throw away lines that have no place being there;
like how ender is the 3rd child and how they needed special permission for him to be born, wait what?
...and another good one is why the super hero bloke has Mauri face tattoo's and some nonsense about him having NZ parents or something? Why? Why did that need to happen? What world did he originally fight in? I didn't know NZ had an airforce of any real significance, before or during the attack did the earth form some giant super army?
It's meaningless nonsense added to the film to make it seem like there is alot going on but it does the exact opposite and makes it feel superficial and pointless.
they took out the locke/desmo plotline? that's brutal....probably my favorite part of the book (it's how ender realizes how much valentine cares about him by 'exiling' him to keep him safe from peter).That is an excellent part of the book indeed, and would have made an excellent part of the movie, yet had everything "right" been included, it would have been too long.
Is there a reason he's called 'Ender' ?
Is there a reason he's called 'Ender' ?
His real name is Andrew, but as young children it was mispronounced as "Ender" and it stuck.
Also it sounds cool. He did end the Formec war, after all.
oh... :/
but wasn't the twist of the movie that there wasn't actually a war?
oh... :/
but wasn't the twist of the movie that there wasn't actually a war?
No, actually the twist is that Ender believes he's engaging in a simulation, a "game" when in fact the ships he's using for his simulation are real ships, in actual combat. They don't tell him this in order to spare him the anguish, guilt, etc. -- so that he can be completely dispassionate.
oh... :/
but wasn't the twist of the movie that there wasn't actually a war?
No, actually the twist is that Ender believes he's engaging in a simulation, a "game" when in fact the ships he's using for his simulation are real ships, in actual combat. They don't tell him this in order to spare him the anguish, guilt, etc. -- so that he can be completely dispassionate.