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Title: delete
Post by: tinlong117 on Mon, 04 November 2013, 04:57:36
I'll leave the title here.
Title: Re: 3x IBM ssk
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 04 November 2013, 05:47:15
How bad are the scratched? Photos?
Title: Re: 3x IBM ssk
Post by: Alessandro on Mon, 04 November 2013, 05:51:27
Please note my interest. What would you expect reasonable shipping to cost to the UK?
Title: Re: 3x IBM ssk
Post by: neunelfer on Mon, 04 November 2013, 05:54:57
Any more info? Pics?
Title: Re: 3x IBM ssk
Post by: Blazed on Mon, 04 November 2013, 05:55:22
classic tin.
Title: Re: 3x IBM ssk
Post by: Game Theory on Mon, 04 November 2013, 06:26:44
Even if scratched that's a pretty good price lately.
Title: Re: 3x IBM ssk
Post by: Blazed on Mon, 04 November 2013, 06:28:02
Even if scratched that's a pretty good price lately.

That all depends on where it's being shipped to. Going to be pretty expensive going international.
Title: Re: ssk 1 left
Post by: theMANtonio on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:52:29
I'll take that last one  :thumb:
Title: Re: ssk and more ibm stuff
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 05 November 2013, 04:50:53
new stuff.
Title: Re: ssk and more ibm stuff
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 05 November 2013, 06:22:05
YGPM
Title: Re: ssk and more ibm stuff
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 November 2013, 06:35:55
6019284

I'm extremely interested in this.
Title: Re: ssk and more ibm stuff
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Tue, 05 November 2013, 06:38:52
scratched, asking for 160 usd+shipping each.


shipping is 30 to 40, depends on your location. 

1 left.

Order list:

Sleepy916
Iamahab
(sadbox)

6019284(a.k.a. kishsaver)

http://kishy.dyndns.org/?attachment_id=943

any interest?

can get around 20.

6019273

http://kishy.dyndns.org/?p=977#more-977

can get around 20.

Holy **** Tin, why didn't you tell me? I'm definitely interested in a 6019284 (or two  :p )
Also would like a 6019273 ;)
Title: Re: ssk and more ibm stuff
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 05 November 2013, 06:52:35
As I'm a "quite reasonable" guy, I will sell kishsaver for 485 USD and 6019273 for 300 USD.

blame me for profiteering.
Title: Re: ssk and more ibm stuff
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 November 2013, 08:08:15
As I'm a "quite reasonable" guy, I will sell kishsaver for 485 USD and 6019273 for 300 USD.

blame me for profiteering.

why not just trade for clacks  :)) :p
Title: Re: ssk and more ibm stuff
Post by: mashby on Tue, 05 November 2013, 08:38:49
Ouch!

I really want a Kishysaver, but OUCH.

(http://i.imgur.com/pwg9kid.gif)

I'm still very interested in getting one.
Title: Re: ssk and more ibm stuff
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 November 2013, 09:02:46
Ouch!

I really want a Kishysaver, but OUCH.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/pwg9kid.gif)


I'm still very interested in getting one.


So should I be watching the classifieds for a mashby financing sale?
Title: Re: ssk and more ibm stuff
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 05 November 2013, 09:23:33
Man, tin. Y U such profit?
Title: Re: ssk and more ibm stuff
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 05 November 2013, 09:25:06
Man, tin. Y U such profit?
becuse me is dik

Title: Re: ssk and more ibm stuff
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 05 November 2013, 09:26:28
Man, tin. Y U such profit?
becuse me is dik



Everything makes sense now... ;)
Title: Re: ssk and more ibm stuff
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 05 November 2013, 09:27:27
I wonder if I can scrape together $485... 60% Model F b:
Title: Re: ssk and more ibm stuff
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 November 2013, 09:29:06
So Tin how long can you live on ~$16,000?
Title: Re: ssk and more ibm stuff
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 05 November 2013, 09:33:23
So Tin how long can you live on ~$16,000?

Tin-long
Title: Re: ssk and more ibm stuff
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 05 November 2013, 09:34:32
I'd be in for a 6019284 (a.k.a. kishsaver)
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: tinlong117 on Wed, 06 November 2013, 04:39:03
guys

pics are up and edited the unrealistic pricing
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: tinlong117 on Wed, 06 November 2013, 04:46:29
Please leave a message HERE if you're missing from the orderlist.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: berserkfan on Wed, 06 November 2013, 04:51:56
OK, I'm on the list. How is it gonna be arranged? Do we wait for an invoice, or will you send out a mass mail with your paypal address on it?
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: tinlong117 on Wed, 06 November 2013, 04:55:41
OK, I'm on the list. How is it gonna be arranged? Do we wait for an invoice, or will you send out a mass mail with your paypal address on it?
you're from SG, right?
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 06 November 2013, 06:32:35
Just confirming here that I'm in for a kishsaver. :)
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: poxeclipse on Wed, 06 November 2013, 06:47:54
In for 6019284. PM sent.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:55:20
In for a kishsaver, PM sent.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:56:23
I might pick up another kishsaver if no one else wants one
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Sniping on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:59:28
What is the easiest way to convert the kishaver connector to PS2/USB?
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Binge on Wed, 06 November 2013, 09:02:27
tin if you still have em I'm in
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: MTManiac on Wed, 06 November 2013, 09:09:27
YGPM
 :thumb:
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Alessandro on Wed, 06 November 2013, 09:13:05
PMd.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 November 2013, 09:18:16
What is the easiest way to convert the kishaver connector to PS2/USB?

Wait for the controller Haata/Kishy/dorkvader and crew are working on. Currently it's not usable with modern computers. Either the 6019284 or the 6019273.

Edit: I should point out I'm not on this crew working on the controller, I've just been hunting for this Kishsaver for a while and talk to DorkVader a lot about the controller project.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: DrinkTea on Wed, 06 November 2013, 09:28:00
So what's the deal with these? forgive my ignorance. Briefly looking around, it looks like they're rare, compact BS?
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 November 2013, 09:34:01
It's a stock 60% Model F that Kishy and friends discovered. For me, it's the ultimate Model F. AT and XT F are too big. Unsaver and F122 are out of the question for my desk space.

Some more reading here:
http://kishy.dyndns.org/?p=894
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44582.30
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43091.0
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: HAL9000 on Wed, 06 November 2013, 09:45:58
if they are still available I am in for one. PMd
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: zoolzoo on Wed, 06 November 2013, 10:10:14
wat
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: do_Og@n on Wed, 06 November 2013, 10:12:37
These are awesome!!! The original 60% board?
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 06 November 2013, 10:14:19
Does it work with modern PC?
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 06 November 2013, 10:17:13
Does it work with modern PC?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50475.msg1105752.msg#1105752
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 06 November 2013, 10:29:42
Thanks Racoon. I read that but it didn't register because I was caught up in everybody's excitement. So all of you wanted one that will not work on modern PC? That's an ultimate geek! I'm in of shipping is not expensive!!
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: tinlong117 on Wed, 06 November 2013, 10:37:05
So...please prepare your payment very soon. I'm going to collect money, soon. :)

P.S. Will calculate shipping later. For NA guys, all the boards will go to your US proxy (should be CPTBadAss<-thanks this guy!) For european guys(NL/SE/NO/BG/LT/LV/GB/FI/SK/HR/SI/BE/etc), all the boards will go to your EU proxy in deutschland(snoopy<-thanks this guy!)

For people from rest of the earth(AFRICA/ASIA/AUS), I'll handle your shipment, but this will probably take longer because I'm really busy(lazy) with stuff.


P.S.2 If you're not on the list, don't worry. I'm just too busy(lazy) to update it. Will update it tomorrow, probably.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: codyeatworld on Wed, 06 November 2013, 10:38:45
I must have one of these! ygpm!
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 06 November 2013, 10:39:16
Do you have a rough estimate for what shipping would be like for US buyers?
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 06 November 2013, 10:41:25
Add me on sir, I tried to resist but failed
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: tinlong117 on Wed, 06 November 2013, 10:42:00
Do you have a rough estimate for what shipping would be like for US buyers?
give me a break!!! PLEASE! RAWR! RAWR! RAWR! RAWR! RAWR!
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Michael on Wed, 06 November 2013, 10:48:45
Add me on sir, I tried to resist but failed


resistance is futile
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Michael on Wed, 06 November 2013, 10:54:05
Don't forget about this: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/mechanical-keyboard-controller-diy (https://www.massdrop.com/vote/mechanical-keyboard-controller-diy)


Might want to get those last 10 votes in, as I am sure you will need one to use with these boards.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 06 November 2013, 10:55:50
Do you have a rough estimate for what shipping would be like for US buyers?
give me a break!!! PLEASE! RAWR! RAWR! RAWR! RAWR! RAWR!

Well it's not like I have money falling from trees--for all I know it could be $50+.  It's a legitimate question.  But it's fine, I'm sticking with as few keyboards as possible now.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: tinlong117 on Wed, 06 November 2013, 10:58:59
Do you have a rough estimate for what shipping would be like for US buyers?
give me a break!!! PLEASE! RAWR! RAWR! RAWR! RAWR! RAWR!

Well it's not like I have money falling from trees--for all I know it could be $50+.  It's a legitimate question.  But it's fine, I'm sticking with as few keyboards as possible now.
Not trying to be rude, but...butt...buttt...I'm just too busy to reply pms and have no time to check the postage.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Michael on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:00:52
Do you have a rough estimate for what shipping would be like for US buyers?
give me a break!!! PLEASE! RAWR! RAWR! RAWR! RAWR! RAWR!

Well it's not like I have money falling from trees--for all I know it could be $50+.  It's a legitimate question.  But it's fine, I'm sticking with as few keyboards as possible now.


I doubt shipping from CPT to you will be much more than 15 dollars, having shipped plenty of them myself within the US. It looks like it can fit in a large flat rate USPS box with plenty of extra room to spare. Those are a flat 15 dollars with priority shipping.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:01:19
I have a feeling that shipping from CPTBadAss to each US buyer would be no more than $13. Plus each buyer's share of the shipping from tin to CPT (probably a few dollars).
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:04:19
Thank you for the clarification.  That's very reasonable.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:23:09
So what's the deal with these? forgive my ignorance. Briefly looking around, it looks like they're rare, compact BS?

CPTbadass has a lot of good links, but there's a few reasons these are wanted.

You know how aluminium cased cherry keyboards are often expensive? These have metal cases. Even the small 62 key weighs more than a full size model M. It's also got capacitive buckling spring (model F) technology and therefore NKRO. Finally, it's in a small 60% layout (very popular right now).

I would also like to note that it's got a very compact keyset, with a split shift and spacebar. It has extra keys instead of gaps in the bottom row (perfect for super or function keys between ctrl and alt) Also, I haven't tried it, but it looks like it might support a split backspace and right shift, so if you removed the two outer keys on the bottom row (and added some largerkeys and stabilizers for rightshift, enter, etc), you could have a HHKB layout model F.

All of this should be possible with a replacement controller, and possibly some extra keycaps, stabilizers and maybe an added hammer/spring or two (depending on layout)

The controller is not yet done. If you get one, you can start thinking about keycaps, layouts and modding (A replacement mat is a good place to start) until work on the controller is complete.

A lot of people have two qualms about the model F's They are large and have odd layouts. This solves both issues somewhat as it's smaller and supports a good variety of useful layouts. Added to that, it has a nice robust metal chassis
Until I get one, I can't say with certainty which of those split keys can be converted into a larger version, but I suspect enter and shift can. There is also an excellent chance you can put an ISO enter on there though I can't know for sure until I do it.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: cgbuen on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:28:30
A little confused - what does the parentheses around my name mean? Waitlist? Unpaid?
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:30:30
Uh this got out of hand fast @.@. Didn't realize how many people would want this and I signed on as proxy, thinking it'd be less than 10 boards. Oh well, happy to help :D. Just realize this will be my first big shipping project thing everyone.

Tin are you going to invoice all of us? How is the shipping from me to you going to work?

I thought shipping would be closer to the game board flat rate boxes but what boxes might fit for less jdcarpe/BroCaps?
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Michael on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:32:25


I thought shipping would be closer to the game board flat rate boxes but what boxes might fit for less jdcarpe/BroCaps?


That's what I was referring to. Gameboard boxes or large flat rate are both 15 dollars anywhere in the US
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:32:42
For a 60%, I'm pretty sure you can fit it in a Medium Flat Rate Box.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Michael on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:35:54
For a 60%, I'm pretty sure you can fit it in a Medium Flat Rate Box.


Doubtful. This is almost the size of an SSK. While the layout is 60%, the case is definitely not. Also the height of it might also be taller than expected.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:38:34
For a 60%, I'm pretty sure you can fit it in a Medium Flat Rate Box.


Doubtful. This is almost the size of an SSK. While the layout is 60%, the case is definitely not. Also the height of it might also be taller than expected.

They are pretty big. If I remember right, on kishy's site, it was around 14" long (maybe longer)
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:41:35
Ah, I see. Well then, I suggest ordering some LFRB (Game Board) from usps.com, CPT. :))
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:42:07
Hm, is it $15 through Stamps.com? I usually just go to the branch office and it costs $16.85. Regardless, its about $15. Just curious.

Thought you meant like a medium flat rate or something. Thanks for the clarification, Brocaps.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Alessandro on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:42:42
I suppose shipping from Germany won't be to bad then.

Down for a Kishsaver if there's still room please! :)
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Michael on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:43:31
Hm, is it $15 through Stamps.com? I usually just go to the branch office and it costs $16.85. Regardless, its about $15. Just curious.

Thought you meant like a medium flat rate or something. Thanks for the clarification, Brocaps.


I am not sure, but when I paid for the label through USPS.com, it was about 15. They may have raised the price since I last shipped one, though. But in that area, yeah.
I know USPS offers a discount for buying them online. (like a dollar or so cheaper than the post office)
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:45:07
Online postage price from usps.com shows $15.30 for LFRB
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:45:18
Mk, well I'll double check the size and order boxes accordingly for the US shipment everyone. Most likely it'll be Game Board Flat Rate boxes unless someone knows a better solution. Sound good?
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: AKIMbO on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:45:59
Dammit...AKIMbO wants kishsaver too!
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:46:13
Generally, if it's over 4 lbs, flat rate is the way to go.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Michael on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:48:37
Mk, well I'll double check the size and order boxes accordingly for the US shipment everyone. Most likely it'll be Game Board Flat Rate boxes unless someone knows a better solution. Sound good?


These are going to be pretty heavy, so I think large flat rate is the way to go, honestly.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: snoopy on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:49:09
Shipping from germany for europe will be with DHL.

Can't tell an exact number currently. But will give my best to make it reasonable for everybody.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 06 November 2013, 13:31:58
Which ones are those swich matrix?  How much are those?
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: mashby on Wed, 06 November 2013, 13:37:25
Thank you for the great pricing! Don't know why my name is in parenthesis, but I'm totally in.  :thumb:
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Parak on Wed, 06 November 2013, 13:37:33
As a small heads up, if and/or when a replacement controller may/might happen, it will at the very least require desoldering of the 30 pin ribbon cable from the existing controller and soldering it to the new one. Said ribbon cable does not have a readily available 'easy' replacement, so due care will be needed to avoid damaging it (though it is fairly robust). Usage of this on a modern pc will never be a simple drop in process, unfortunately.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 06 November 2013, 13:41:13
The problem with the large flat rate will be packaging. There will be a LOT of space to move around. But then, as DV said, it's a metal case. Not like a F-122 which will break. But do we want to risk much chance?
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: theMANtonio on Wed, 06 November 2013, 13:42:34
Please put me down for a kishsaver. I won't PM since I'm sure your box is full already lol.

CPTBadAss, thanks for being proxy  :thumb:
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 November 2013, 13:43:00
The problem with the large flat rate will be packaging. There will be a LOT of space to move around. But then, as DV said, it's a metal case. Not like a F-122 which will break. But do we want to risk much chance?

Like I said before, I'm open to suggestions on shipping Moose.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 06 November 2013, 13:43:31
The problem with the large flat rate will be packaging. There will be a LOT of space to move around. But then, as DV said, it's a metal case. Not like a F-122 which will break. But do we want to risk much chance?

I want to risk nothing. As long as shipping is under say $50 total, I'd be fine with it.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 06 November 2013, 13:48:00
Well, honestly, I think the flat rate box is the easiest option by far, and it should be easy for you. I'm just saying shipping costs will be more because you'll need to get paper to stuff in the boxes. Not bubble wrap.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Michael on Wed, 06 November 2013, 13:49:35
Well, honestly, I think the flat rate box is the easiest option by far, and it should be easy for you. I'm just saying shipping costs will be more because you'll need to get paper to stuff in the boxes. Not bubble wrap.


It's not that expensive.


http://www.amazon.com/Scotch-Postal-Wrapping-Paper-Inches/dp/B000RN3EOE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1383767345&sr=8-1&keywords=shipping+paper (http://www.amazon.com/Scotch-Postal-Wrapping-Paper-Inches/dp/B000RN3EOE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1383767345&sr=8-1&keywords=shipping+paper)
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 06 November 2013, 13:54:41
Ah, I didn't mean to say it would be. Just that it should be expected.

I don't want CPT to have to be put out by too much work, but I think all the details should be put on the table.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: vivalarevolución on Wed, 06 November 2013, 15:05:02
Put me down for a kishsaver, if some are still available.  I put forth my interest on deskthority already, just confirming my interest as well.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 06 November 2013, 18:14:19
In DT, many commented that the $80 price is too high, then reluctantly placed an order. Here in GH, everyone just buy! Ha ha. I find it really interesting.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: 127001 on Wed, 06 November 2013, 18:56:43
I'll take one of each if possible.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 06 November 2013, 23:50:40
Uh this got out of hand fast @.@. Didn't realize how many people would want this and I signed on as proxy, thinking it'd be less than 10 boards. Oh well, happy to help :D. Just realize this will be my first big shipping project thing everyone.

Tin are you going to invoice all of us? How is the shipping from me to you going to work?

I thought shipping would be closer to the game board flat rate boxes but what boxes might fit for less jdcarpe/BroCaps?

If you have shipping needs/questions, feel free to bug me, too.  Having never seen a tinsaver, I'd not know what flat rate it would fit it, but you might be able to use a self-provided box or one of the other nonflat-rate boxes that fit the tinsaver better and slide in between med/lrg flat rate pricing as well.

Hell, if you want, I can batch all the shipping labels on my shipping portal I use and email you the pdf with all the labels paid and ready to go, too.
Title: Re: kishsvaer, no bull****, pics are up
Post by: hasu on Thu, 07 November 2013, 01:53:32
Put me down the list for one 6019284. Thanks.
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: tinlong117 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 03:48:50
Updated the list, if you're in, then you're in. If not, sorry.

will invoice soon.
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: tinlong117 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 04:51:10
ALL INVOICED.
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 07 November 2013, 06:17:21
paid
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: tinlong117 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 06:26:25
paid

My dog eats my payments.
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 November 2013, 06:42:01
How is shipping from you to me going to work Tinlong? Are you going invoice everyone for shipping when you figure that out?
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: tinlong117 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 06:44:37
How is shipping from you to me going to work Tinlong? Are you going invoice everyone for shipping when you figure that out?

All correct.
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: 127001 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 06:53:34
Paid.

Thanks.
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: Game Theory on Thu, 07 November 2013, 07:03:12
Happy Birthday Tinnie!
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 07 November 2013, 07:57:41
Shipping info about these.

These are very "wide". The keyboard extends more than 1.5" from the keycap area (a bit more than the excess edges on the F122). The 107 is the widest model F keyboard I know of.

You can see on kishy's site he's weighed the parts to be 2853 grams (6.29 lbs, or 6 lb, 5 oz) total, so they are pretty heavy. Looking at his pictures, It appears to be about 35 Cm (13.75 inches or so) wide and about 15 cm (roughly 6 inches or so) high. I can get a more exact measure of the height and "depth" when I get home to measure my 50-key.

CPTbadass travelled with my 50-key (so he should have a bit of an idea of the size). These are actually not very "high", especially if the bar foot is removed for shipping. They are heavy, though, so a flat rate option is likely a good one.

I would say that the normal box might be a better choice for shipping, as I think it'll fit, and it would make wrapping these easier.

I recommend the large bubble bubblewrap. It's a good mix of cheap and thick to protect these.
eBay category for large (0.5" ) bubble wrap
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Large-1-2-/109702/i.html

(^ We use this to move computers around between stores.)

Another workable idea is the larger air flexible sheets
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290677419004

Also, you might be able to get "super duty" bubble bags in the right size from uline
http://www.uline.com/BL_7605/Super-Duty-Bubble-Bags
maybe 12*15 might fit? Not sure about the price though.
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: kishy on Thu, 07 November 2013, 08:47:56
Figured I'd pop in here, since I did on DT:

Good job for finding these and making them accessible. They are exceptionally difficult to find, I suspect because the industry that used them (banking/finance) has strict IT regulations for destroying old equipment...would be my guess anyway, combined with the fact the system was for such a niche market.

The Kishsaver, so-named by a small group in IRC 2-3 years ago when I co-introduced this keyboard with dw_junon, has 3 sibling keyboards, one smaller, and two larger. Details are on my website which is exceptionally slow due to excess visitors currently (it's hosted on a 0.5Mb/s connection! note that I only just installed the pageview counter so it is deceptively low).

dw, I might add, deserves full credit for me even knowing what these are, and for encouraging me to buy one sight-unseen to confirm that such a thing actually existed.

These keyboards are NOT CURRENTLY USABLE WITH ANYTHING except an IBM 4704, and I am most likely the only person under 25 years old who owns one...most certainly the only person on GH. There are conversion projects but it is important for people to realize you cannot use this for anything currently and it will be a while before you can. Conversion will most likely be successful through controller replacement; a plug-in solution is extremely unlikely because of how basic the protocol is (well, that was the news last time I actively discussed it with the parties attempting conversion, anyway). You will very likely require soldering abilities and they will very likely need to be more advanced than assembling a Teensy converter, if only slightly more advanced.

I encourage everyone who has bought or is buying one to read the page I wrote on my website about the 4700 system as it'll give you some context for the keyboards. After all, history is interesting too, isn't it?
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: Michael on Thu, 07 November 2013, 08:51:39
Figured I'd pop in here, since I did on DT:

Good job for finding these and making them accessible. They are exceptionally difficult to find, I suspect because the industry that used them (banking/finance) has strict IT regulations for destroying old equipment...would be my guess anyway, combined with the fact the system was for such a niche market.

The Kishsaver, so-named by a small group in IRC 2-3 years ago when I co-introduced this keyboard with dw_junon, has 3 sibling keyboards, one smaller, and two larger. Details are on my website which is exceptionally slow due to excess visitors currently (it's hosted on a 0.5Mb/s connection! note that I only just installed the pageview counter so it is deceptively low).

dw, I might add, deserves full credit for me even knowing what these are, and for encouraging me to buy one sight-unseen to confirm that such a thing actually existed.

These keyboards are NOT CURRENTLY USABLE WITH ANYTHING except an IBM 4704, and I am most likely the only person under 25 years old who owns one...most certainly the only person on GH. There are conversion projects but it is important for people to realize you cannot use this for anything currently and it will be a while before you can. Conversion will most likely be successful through controller replacement; a plug-in solution is extremely unlikely because of how basic the protocol is (well, that was the news last time I actively discussed it with the parties attempting conversion, anyway). You will very likely require soldering abilities and they will very likely need to be more advanced than assembling a Teensy converter, if only slightly more advanced.

I encourage everyone who has bought or is buying one to read the page I wrote on my website about the 4700 system as it'll give you some context for the keyboards. After all, history is interesting too, isn't it?


Thanks for the excellent info on this. Much appreciated.




Also - paid.
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 07 November 2013, 09:35:46
Thank you, Kishy
Would you mind posting dimensions of the kishsaver: width, depth, and height at the tallest point? 


Figured I'd pop in here, since I did on DT:

Good job for finding these and making them accessible. They are exceptionally difficult to find, I suspect because the industry that used them (banking/finance) has strict IT regulations for destroying old equipment...would be my guess anyway, combined with the fact the system was for such a niche market.

The Kishsaver, so-named by a small group in IRC 2-3 years ago when I co-introduced this keyboard with dw_junon, has 3 sibling keyboards, one smaller, and two larger. Details are on my website which is exceptionally slow due to excess visitors currently (it's hosted on a 0.5Mb/s connection! note that I only just installed the pageview counter so it is deceptively low).

dw, I might add, deserves full credit for me even knowing what these are, and for encouraging me to buy one sight-unseen to confirm that such a thing actually existed.

These keyboards are NOT CURRENTLY USABLE WITH ANYTHING except an IBM 4704, and I am most likely the only person under 25 years old who owns one...most certainly the only person on GH. There are conversion projects but it is important for people to realize you cannot use this for anything currently and it will be a while before you can. Conversion will most likely be successful through controller replacement; a plug-in solution is extremely unlikely because of how basic the protocol is (well, that was the news last time I actively discussed it with the parties attempting conversion, anyway). You will very likely require soldering abilities and they will very likely need to be more advanced than assembling a Teensy converter, if only slightly more advanced.

I encourage everyone who has bought or is buying one to read the page I wrote on my website about the 4700 system as it'll give you some context for the keyboards. After all, history is interesting too, isn't it?
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: kishy on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:30:21
Thank you, Kishy
Would you mind posting dimensions of the kishsaver: width, depth, and height at the tallest point? 

I'm at work currently but I can get both the 62 and 50 key dimensions when I'm home.
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:30:24
Thank you kishy for the knowledge.

Paid.
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: mashby on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:45:37
Paid.
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: cgbuen on Thu, 07 November 2013, 11:27:15
Paid!
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: sleepy916 on Fri, 08 November 2013, 19:15:25
Pmed.
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: tinlong117 on Fri, 08 November 2013, 20:51:36
Guys, my source got 12 ssks.
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: 127001 on Fri, 08 November 2013, 21:09:30
Guys, my source got 12 ssks.
If any are damaged I might be interested in one.
Title: Re: kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: kishy on Fri, 08 November 2013, 22:41:17
Thank you, Kishy
Would you mind posting dimensions of the kishsaver: width, depth, and height at the tallest point? 

I'm at work currently but I can get both the 62 and 50 key dimensions when I'm home.

Approximately:
50-key: 11" x 7" x 2"
62-key: 14" x 7" x 2"
Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: dragonxx21 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 01:11:48
put me down for an ssk. Pics?
Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: tinlong117 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 01:37:15
Updated the list.
Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: Neal on Sun, 10 November 2013, 01:46:21
Put me down for one if you can
Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: ninjadoc on Sun, 10 November 2013, 02:48:09
Put me down for an SSK.
Can you put me on the list if you get anymore?
I know your tired of PM's.
Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: Binge on Fri, 15 November 2013, 10:14:11
A tinny bird told me that 17 kishsavers are OTW to the United States   :eek:
Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 November 2013, 10:15:11
I didn't here anything about this and I'm the proxy...be nice to get some updates.
Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: Binge on Fri, 15 November 2013, 10:22:04
I didn't here anything about this and I'm the proxy...be nice to get some updates.

IRC sleepy message and then he logged off.
Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: 127001 on Fri, 15 November 2013, 11:08:53
Nah never mind, real good price though.
Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: kmiller8 on Fri, 15 November 2013, 11:10:38
I didn't here anything about this and I'm the proxy...be nice to get some updates.

You've been replaced obv. You're much too new to handle proxing.
Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 November 2013, 11:22:17
I didn't here anything about this and I'm the proxy...be nice to get some updates.

You've been replaced obv. You're much too new to handle proxing.

proxying

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Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: Michael on Fri, 15 November 2013, 11:23:05
I didn't here anything about this and I'm the proxy...be nice to get some updates.

You've been replaced obv. You're much too new to handle proxing.

proxying

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Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: kmiller8 on Fri, 15 November 2013, 11:23:53
I didn't here anything about this and I'm the proxy...be nice to get some updates.

You've been replaced obv. You're much too new to handle proxing.

proxying

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Show Image
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MRW spamray posts

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Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 November 2013, 11:35:07
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Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: tinlong117 on Fri, 15 November 2013, 20:09:33
Shipped another lot of 8.
Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: wcass on Fri, 15 November 2013, 21:54:59
OK, you got me to look in the classifieds section. I never go in the classifieds ... but your give-away post got me asking ... "who is this guy?"

soooo, do ya happen to still have some of them 63-key? if so, i'ld be interested in one.


Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: tinlong117 on Sun, 17 November 2013, 03:32:52
Got my paypal account locked. :|
Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: Binge on Sun, 17 November 2013, 10:49:02
 :-X uhhhmmmm... Those *******s
Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: absyrd on Sun, 17 November 2013, 10:53:12
Got my paypal account locked. :|

NOOOoooooo! That sucks, tintin. :(
Title: Re: sskay, kishsvaer full, Model F 50 keys
Post by: tinlong117 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 09:55:29
Invoiced for the shipping. Will finish this "gb" asap.

I'll leave for a while.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 November 2013, 19:54:26
Ok pictures are up, I've inspected all the 6019284 keyboards aka the Kishsavers aka the 60% Model F. The good news is that even though the box was a little messed up, there's only three keyboards that I consider bad. And one of those was known to be iffy when we started. The "broken" ones have a dent and I think a broken barrel plate and something else loose. The majority are in good to great condition.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3762/10970657395_ed5fd18973.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/10970657395/in/set-72157637891952696)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7309/10970842744_e78cd5b912.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/10970842744/in/set-72157637891952696)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3665/10970752036_ed4cfe87ba.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/10970752036/in/set-72157637891952696)

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5481/10970751536_610ece633f.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/10970751536/in/set-72157637891952696)

The oldest one was made week 50 of 1982. The youngest one was made February 1989. Most were made in 1983 or 1985.

Full album on my Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/sets/72157637891952696/)

I have two packages in my apartment and one coming tomorrow snoopy. Some quick thoughts as I sort through these.

- One box was wrapped better than the other
- The poorly wrapped box has kishsavers missing keycaps
- The oldest one I saw so far was one made in '83
- One has a sticker on the back from the "Pentagon Federal Credit Union"
- Most of them have their labels still
- They were made in Armock, NY

Pictures coming soon. I want to give all the boards a once over.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: 127001 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 20:40:30
Pictures
Those... are very, very exciting :D
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: Michael on Wed, 20 November 2013, 20:42:16
What will happen to the broken ones?
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: 127001 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 20:43:24
What will happen to the broken ones?
Ditto, is there some mechanism for deciding who gets what?
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 November 2013, 20:49:24
What will happen to the broken ones?

That's a damn good question. We either play luck of the draw or give it someone who has the patience/drive/time/money to fix it. I'm not really sure what other options are so I'm open to suggestions.

Edit:

(http://i.imgur.com/Le7jRfb.jpg)

Dented keyboard.

I'm just playing proxy guys so we'll have to talk to tinlong. Do we want to refund those two keyboards and send them back or do we want to send them to someone who wants it as is? I can PM him here or on IRC if we can come to a consensus.

What will happen to the broken ones?
Ditto, is there some mechanism for deciding who gets what?

And I think I'm going to collect all the keyboards, do a quick check on all of them, and then number them all and do a random draw. Thoughts?
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: tinlong117 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:46:55
How many boards dents/bad? (other than the two which are know to be missing caps)
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:52:33
Just the one I took a picture of and another one that has a loose....something and a broken barrel plate.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: tinlong117 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:56:06
Just the one I took a picture of and another one that has a loose....something and a broken barrel plate.

Okay. Tj said he doesn't want one anymore. I'll send him a refund. And I'll auction that one later. For the another one, I'll decide it later.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:59:48
I think I have a solution. Check your PMs tinlong and let me know if you're ok with that.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: tinlong117 on Thu, 21 November 2013, 03:13:47
SHIPPING
NL list (Proxy to KURK)
------
webwit 2 boards (1x6019273 and 1x6019284)
Kurk 3 boards (1x6019273, 1x6019284, SSK)
nourathar 1 boards (60192984)
6 boards in total
------
GB list (Proxy to Muirium)
------
Muirium (60192984)
soarer(60192984, 6019273)
facetsesame(60192984)
bunnylake (60192984)
5 boards in total
-------
DE/AT/IT list (proxy to snoooop)
-------
Snoopy (2x6019284) shipping paid
7bit (1x6019284, 1x6019273)
rindorbrot (6019284) shipping paid
monstertoys (6019284)
xbb(6019284) shipping paid
HAL9000(6019284) shipping paid
8 boards in total)
--------
US/CA list (proxy to CPT)
------
Game Theory(6019284) shipping paid
lcs paid (1x6019284, 1x6019273) shipping paid
theflyingraccoon (6019284)
CPTbadass (6019284)
halverson 2 (2x6019284)
the_beast (6019284) shipping paid
brocaps (6019284) shipping paid
cgbuen (6019284) shipping paid
--------
binge (6019284) shipping paid
parak 2 (2x6019284) shipping paid
Jwaz (6019284)
mashby (6019284)
jdcarpe (6019284) shipping paid
shadovved (6019284)
Poxeclipse 2 (2x6019284)
codyeatworld (6019284)
---------
127001 (1x6019284, 1x6019273) shipping paid
dorkvader broekn board
daemonraccoon broken board shipping paid
gmang (6019284) shipping paid
mtmaniac (6019284)
tjcaustin (6019284) cancel
prdlm2009 (6019284) shipping paid
28 boards in total (3 packages)
25 out of 28 boards shipped
---------
Last edited by tinnie on 21 Nov 2013, 11:12, edited 30 times in total.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 21 November 2013, 05:50:51
I'm not on the list
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: mashby on Thu, 21 November 2013, 07:51:19
Just paid my shipping invoice.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 22 November 2013, 09:40:41
Just paid my shipping invoice.

Same here!

Thanks for everything!
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 November 2013, 09:45:04
Just a heads up for you CONUS people, the last package is at my local post office branch. I've been working a lot of overtime so I can't get the last batch of eight 6019284s until Saturday. I also ordered boxes from USPS but I didn't get enough so I'll need to order more which means another 7-10 business day wait. I apologize for any wait for shipping on my end. Please let me know if you have questions on CONUS shipping.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 22 November 2013, 10:01:21
I'm not on the list

This and no invoice either.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: tinlong117 on Fri, 22 November 2013, 23:57:14
I'm not on the list

This and no invoice either.

Just wait.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 23 November 2013, 14:11:25
Got the last eight 6019284 keyboards. There are three iffy boards. The boards were tossed into a box without and packaging or bubble wrap. There were a few broken caps.

1) There's something metal and loose sliding around. Maybe a broken barrel? And the cable is slightly cut, like it was half stripped. Has all the caps

2) Bent connector, the left shift is broken

3) Spacebar and | cap broken, there is something loose and metal sliding around like #1.

The other 5 are fine and have their caps.



Pictures:

Box before opening
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3728/11015119923_f4cb05379d.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/11015119923/in/set-72157637891952696)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7314/11014898985_526d03acc8.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/11014898985/in/set-72157637891952696)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3689/11015122473_d128c6a186.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/11015122473/in/set-72157637891952696)

Inside the box

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5525/11014896675_d9dfca4e47.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/11015122473/in/set-72157637891952696)

Bent connector

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2824/11015073564_f2345e88d7.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/11015073564/in/set-72157637891952696)

Wrapped and Inspected

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7328/11015124593_e0114e9f7e.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/11015124593/in/set-72157637891952696)



So there are 5 problem boards. One with a dent and one with a broken barrel plate/plastic internals. Think tinlong117 said that the broken one was to be sold for cheaper. Not sure what's going on with the latest three. Tinlong117, let me know what you want to do with them.

I'm also not an F expert so I don't know if something sliding inside is just a broken barrel assembly and is easily fixed or something more.



Next steps for me? I'm going to get bubble wrap and paper. I'm also waiting on a shipment of boxes from USPS. The 6019284 will fit into a medium flat rate but just barely and I would like to put more wrapping around it. So I'll have to order more boxes and get them before I can ship anything out. Oh, and I'm still waiting on the 50key matrix keyboards aka the 6019273.

All the pictures can be found in my flickr album (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/sets/72157637891952696/).
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 23 November 2013, 16:34:08
I have some really good news guys. There are only 4 iffy boards now. All the "loose metal" issues have now been resolved. I got brave and opened one the iffy boards up. Inside it looks like this:

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3787/11017235124_347e9789a5.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/11017235124)

Those two little brass things on the back of the plate? Those are spacers or wear parts that clip into the side of the case. They popped off and were sliding around the case. I just popped them back onto the case and put the back plate on. No more sliding metal noises!



So now the four iffy boards:

There is a board with a dent.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7340/11017053855_7916b12a61.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/11017053855/)

Then three boards with bent connectors:

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2824/11015073564_f2345e88d7.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/11015073564/)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2866/11017069975_3324f26b7e.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/11017069975/)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3746/11017166106_260726a80e.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/11017166106/)



The "broken barrel plate" from here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50475.msg1127249#msg1127249) turned out to be a bit of plastic that was inside one of the keyboards. I didn't see where it broke off from; I believe it's just a piece of plastic that fell into the box and then the board. They switches feel fine and there's no obvious areas where it shows damage. Leads me to believe that there are no internal issues with any of the boards. Just the dent and 3 bent connectors.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: 127001 on Sat, 23 November 2013, 18:10:54
Has a decision been made about who is receiving these broken ones?
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 23 November 2013, 23:12:13
I haven't heard anything from tinlong.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 23 November 2013, 23:37:09
I don't think the damaged cables will be too much of an issue, as they will be replaced with USB cables when the controller is replaced.

That is, unless you have an IBM 4704 terminal you want to plug this in to. And even then, getting a D-sub size DE shell and 4 pins is pretty cheap, so repairing the cable would be pretty easy if it really mattered.

Thanks for taking the time to open up the "possibly damaged" ones. I've certainly learned something new from the pictures.

There are two ways of securing the plates. The "unsaver" keyboards, and these use those clips. The much more common 122 key uses bolts. Both have their ups and downs. I like how the screws in the bottom also hold the plates to the case. That's good design, IBM.
Title: Re: F (shipping -&gt;10% done)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 23 November 2013, 23:56:32
I actually didnt know if the cable mattered. I just assumed it did so thanks for letting me know dorkvader. So apparently theres only 1 damaged board and its the one with the ding. Tjcaustin pulled out so I guess it's up for grabs? Think we'll wait for tinlong to say something about that.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: 127001 on Sun, 24 November 2013, 07:56:35
Just throwing this out there: the cable matters to me.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 November 2013, 11:38:42
Just throwing this out there: the cable matters to me.

Dented one for you it is! :P



Ok so on a more serious note, I talked to dorkvader and tinlong last night. Tinlong said he wants to do a charity auction auction for the dented 6019284. And then the three with the chipped connectors? Dorkvader has said if you get one and don't like the stock cable, he will make you a new one. And with the new controller, you'll be replacing the cable with a USB one anyways. Everyone cool with that?
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: 127001 on Sun, 24 November 2013, 13:48:42
Sounds good to me :D
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: mashby on Mon, 25 November 2013, 10:23:21
No problems that I can see. Nice job CPTBadAss.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: Aer Fixus on Mon, 25 November 2013, 23:03:33
Is this something that I could get in on? (I hope I'm not too late in claiming one. if I am: damn)
I would love the one with the broken cable (Kishsaver). That is, of course if it is not already claimed.


[Edit: just read through and saw that they are all claimed. Guess I'll have to pursue other means of acquisition]
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: poxeclipse on Sat, 30 November 2013, 08:42:34
News ?
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: Michael on Sun, 01 December 2013, 14:18:33
Any update?
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: tinlong117 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 17:13:58
Will ship rest of them on Friday. Too many mock exams last few weeks. :s
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 December 2013, 12:39:15
I sent this to BroCaps and I thought i'd post this here just so people in CONUS/Canada know what's going on on my end. I was AFK from Thanksgiving until today.

Quote
Oh crap I meant to post an update in the Kishsaver thread. I was AFK for a little while. Last I checked I placed an order for boxes at USPS. They said it was "processing". I'm not sure what that meant. Hoping to have boxes at the PO this week. If they don't have them waiting for me, I might buy separate non-flat rate boxes or stuff them in medium flat rate boxes. I want to send these out this coming weekend. Next weekend at the latest.

For the time being, they've all been looked over and I went through the boards that had weird sliding noises and fixed the clips. I took pictures of those in the sale thread. There's only one egregious board and tinlong said he wanted to auction/sell that at a later point.

Sorry for the wait and lack of updates :(. Please let me know if you have anymore questions. I'll post the same info in the Kishsaver thread soon.

By next weekend, I mean 12/14-12/15.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: 127001 on Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:02:24
I sent this to BroCaps and I thought i'd post this here just so people in CONUS/Canada know what's going on on my end. I was AFK from Thanksgiving until today.

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Oh crap I meant to post an update in the Kishsaver thread. I was AFK for a little while. Last I checked I placed an order for boxes at USPS. They said it was "processing". I'm not sure what that meant. Hoping to have boxes at the PO this week. If they don't have them waiting for me, I might buy separate non-flat rate boxes or stuff them in medium flat rate boxes. I want to send these out this coming weekend. Next weekend at the latest.

For the time being, they've all been looked over and I went through the boards that had weird sliding noises and fixed the clips. I took pictures of those in the sale thread. There's only one egregious board and tinlong said he wanted to auction/sell that at a later point.

Sorry for the wait and lack of updates :(. Please let me know if you have anymore questions. I'll post the same info in the Kishsaver thread soon.

By next weekend, I mean 12/14-12/15.

I assume you haven't received the 50-keys yet?
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:06:52
I assume you haven't received the 50-keys yet?

No, I'm still waiting on those. Last I heard tinlong hadn't sent them out and he's been busy according the earlier posts. If you want I can send your 50key separate from your 62key or wait until they both show up. I'll be waiting to send both the 50key and 62key for lcs at the same time.

Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: 127001 on Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:22:20
I assume you haven't received the 50-keys yet?

No, I'm still waiting on those. Last I heard tinlong hadn't sent them out and he's been busy according the earlier posts. If you want I can send your 50key separate from your 62key or wait until they both show up. I'll be waiting to send both the 50key and 62key for lcs at the same time.

Gotcha, just curious mostly. If it's possible I'd prefer they be shipped separately. Let me know if that costs more.

Thanks for the update and all your work.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:23:36
Gotcha, just curious mostly. If it's possible I'd prefer they be shipped separately. Let me know if that costs more.

Thanks for the update and all your work.

It's going to cost more. I'll take it to PMs since it's only you that has both boards coming.

And no worries. I hope we all can have Kishsavers for Christmas :D.



Edit: I forgot to mention this explicitly but I'm going to be asking for a dollar extra in shipping costs to cover the shipping materials. For example, if I'm sending a flat rate game board box, I'd be asking for $16.85+$1. Hope this isn't an issue. I thought that was implied before but I just want to be clear. I need to buy a bunch of packing paper, bubble wrap, and tape. I'll also try to nail down the shipping costs soon. I'm getting these USPS regional boxes that I've never seen before so I'll have to do some digging.

So you'll be getting invoices from me with the USPS shipping amount + $1 for packing sometime soon.



Edit 2: I guess there's some confusion on costs so I'm posting here -

$80+$4 = $84 = Kishsaver and paypal fees
$35+$1.50 = $36.50 = Shipping from Tinlong to me and paypal fees
<$16.85+$1 = $17.85 Max = USPS shipping from me to you + $1 for packing materials. I've explained why this fee might change above.

$84 + $36.50 + $17.85 = $138.85.

These fees obviously change if you're not in CONUS and I'll need to take shipping payment as goods. I will invoice you all for shipping in CONUS when I get that information.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:02:36
Double posting 'cause I have good news. I'm like Professor Farnsworth:


The USPS Regional Rate C boxes came in. They fit the Kishsavers perfectly and have plenty of room for the paper/bubblewrap. Another night this week I will figure out the shipping costs.



Also to anyone wondering:

All NA kishsavers except for the dented one (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50475.msg1132118#msg1132118) have been claimed and paid for. There is a wait list on DT (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/ibm-ssk-t6601.html#p128135). And that list of the boards GH style can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50475.msg1127756#msg1127756). Any other information will need to be asked to tinlong117 since I don't know anything else about wait lists or extras. I have the NA ones, the dented board, and no others.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: 127001 on Wed, 04 December 2013, 21:36:04
This is very, very exciting :D
Title: Re: F (shipping ->10% done)
Post by: tinlong117 on Thu, 05 December 2013, 04:50:55
Will send the rest(US, GB, DE and NL) tomorrow. For the rest(individual shipping), I will send it on next week.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->20% done)
Post by: tinlong117 on Sat, 07 December 2013, 10:32:41
Uhh..forgot tto update.

Shipped GB/NL/DE packages
Title: Re: ssk and more ibm stuff
Post by: ideus on Sat, 07 December 2013, 11:17:54
Ouch!

I really want a Kishysaver, but OUCH.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/pwg9kid.gif)


I'm still very interested in getting one.


Is this from Jurassic Park?
Title: Re: F (shipping ->20% done)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 07 December 2013, 14:22:49
So I have a bit of an issue guys. Remember how I said this was my first time proxying things? It's showing now. I looked at the rates and they show the following for the regional rate boxes. I thought it was going to be a flat rate and I was wrong. If you search for regional rate boxes (http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/Notice123.htm) you'll see the range of prices. And this shows the zones from my zipcode (http://postcalc.usps.gov/Zonecharts/ZoneChartPrintable.aspx?zipcode=452).

Obviously I'm not wanting to charge $40 for shipping by USPS. So now we have two solutions:

1) Pack them in a medium USPS flat rate box. Cost of shipping will be ~$15.40 plus $1 for packing supplies. It's a tight fight and I can't get too much packaging in there. Bubble wrap and box. I wanted to do bubble wrap + paper + box.

2) Pack them in a game board flate rate box. Cost of shippnig will be ~$17 plus $1 for packing supplies. It will be HUGE and I'll have to stuff tons of papers into each box.

I'm leaning towards the medium flat rate boxes. Any objections or other ideas? I don't want to get a normal box and try it shipping like that since the boards are really heavy. I think the USPS flat rates will benefit us here. If I don't get another idea or better solution by Monday, I'm going to get some medium flat rate boxes.

I apologize in advance for getting anyone stressed over this.

Edited to fix the pricing.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->20% done)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 07 December 2013, 14:40:49
So I have a bit of an issue guys. Remember how I said this was my first time proxying things? It's showing now. I looked at the rates and they show the following for the regional rate boxes. I thought it was going to be a flat rate and I was wrong. If you search for regional rate boxes (http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/Notice123.htm) you'll see the range of prices. And this shows the zones from my zipcode (http://postcalc.usps.gov/Zonecharts/ZoneChartPrintable.aspx?zipcode=452).

Obviously I'm not wanting to charge $40 for shipping by USPS. So now we have two solutions:

1) Pack them in a medium USPS flat rate box. Cost of shipping will be ~$12 plus $1 for packing supplies. It's a tight fight and I can't get too much packaging in there. Bubble wrap and box. I wanted to do bubble wrap + paper + box.

2) Pack them in a game board flate rate box. Cost of shippnig will be ~$17 plus $1 for packing supplies. It will be HUGE and I'll have to stuff tons of papers into each box.

I'm leaning towards the medium flat rate boxes. Any objections or other ideas? I don't want to get a normal box and try it shipping like that since the boards are really heavy. I think the USPS flat rates will benefit us here. If I don't get another idea or better solution by Monday, I'm going to get some medium flat rate boxes.

I apologize in advance for getting anyone stressed over this.

Your doing an awesome job sir, full disclosure and going out of your way, anyone would be lucky to have you as a proxy
Title: Re: F (shipping -&gt;20% done)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 07 December 2013, 14:52:52
My personal opinion, and how I would prefer you ship mine if given the choice, would be to use the USPS Large Flat Rate (Board Game) box. Just wrap the keyboard  in a couple layers of the large bubble wrap, and fill the rest of the box with newspaper. That's how I always ship large keyboards. For newspapers, just go grab a stack of those free classified ads (Thrifty Nickel, Penny Saver, etc.).
Title: Re: F (shipping ->20% done)
Post by: Game Theory on Sat, 07 December 2013, 14:54:48
1) Pack them in a medium USPS flat rate box. Cost of shipping will be ~$12 plus $1 for packing supplies. It's a tight fight and I can't get too much packaging in there. Bubble wrap and box. I wanted to do bubble wrap + paper + box.

2) Pack them in a game board flate rate box. Cost of shippnig will be ~$17 plus $1 for packing supplies. It will be HUGE and I'll have to stuff tons of papers into each box.

I'm leaning towards the medium flat rate boxes. Any objections or other ideas? I don't want to get a normal box and try it shipping like that since the boards are really heavy. I think the USPS flat rates will benefit us here. If I don't get another idea or better solution by Monday, I'm going to get some medium flat rate boxes.

I apologize in advance for getting anyone stressed over this.
I'd lean toward the medium flat rate box too but if packed like jdcarpe suggests I'd be fine with that too.  I do not think the game boxes are normal in stock at the local post offices.  Don't fret.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->20% done)
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Sat, 07 December 2013, 16:22:10
So I have a bit of an issue guys. Remember how I said this was my first time proxying things? It's showing now. I looked at the rates and they show the following for the regional rate boxes. I thought it was going to be a flat rate and I was wrong. If you search for regional rate boxes (http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/Notice123.htm) you'll see the range of prices. And this shows the zones from my zipcode (http://postcalc.usps.gov/Zonecharts/ZoneChartPrintable.aspx?zipcode=452).

Obviously I'm not wanting to charge $40 for shipping by USPS. So now we have two solutions:

1) Pack them in a medium USPS flat rate box. Cost of shipping will be ~$12 plus $1 for packing supplies. It's a tight fight and I can't get too much packaging in there. Bubble wrap and box. I wanted to do bubble wrap + paper + box.

2) Pack them in a game board flate rate box. Cost of shippnig will be ~$17 plus $1 for packing supplies. It will be HUGE and I'll have to stuff tons of papers into each box.

I'm leaning towards the medium flat rate boxes. Any objections or other ideas? I don't want to get a normal box and try it shipping like that since the boards are really heavy. I think the USPS flat rates will benefit us here. If I don't get another idea or better solution by Monday, I'm going to get some medium flat rate boxes.

I apologize in advance for getting anyone stressed over this.

You're doing a great job CPT, don't worry.  :D It doesn't matter to me if medium or large flat rate boxes are used. I don't mind paying extra for large flat rate if they are going to work better.
Title: Re: F (shipping -&gt;20% done)
Post by: Michael on Sat, 07 December 2013, 16:33:50
My personal opinion, and how I would prefer you ship mine if given the choice, would be to use the USPS Large Flat Rate (Board Game) box. Just wrap the keyboard  in a couple layers of the large bubble wrap, and fill the rest of the box with newspaper. That's how I always ship large keyboards. For newspapers, just go grab a stack of those free classified ads (Thrifty Nickel, Penny Saver, etc.).




This.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->20% done)
Post by: 127001 on Sat, 07 December 2013, 18:52:07
Is it a regional C type box? If it is I would prefer the whatever you think is best.
If it's a regional B type box, I think that would be fine for me.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->20% done)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 07 December 2013, 18:53:54
Is it a regional C type box? If it is I would prefer the whatever you think is best.
If it's a regional B type box, I think that would be fine for me.

Yes it's a regional C type box. I don't want to ship it because I'm getting quotes for some locations at $40 which is crazy.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->20% done)
Post by: 127001 on Sat, 07 December 2013, 19:00:20
Is it a regional C type box? If it is I would prefer the whatever you think is best.
If it's a regional B type box, I think that would be fine for me.

Yes it's a regional C type box. I don't want to ship it because I'm getting quotes for some locations at $40 which is crazy.

Can you show picks of what it looks like to have a lush in a medium flat rate? Thanks again for all your work dude.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->20% done)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 07 December 2013, 19:35:01
Can you show picks of what it looks like to have a lush in a medium flat rate? Thanks again for all your work dude.

I'm not taking any more pictures. I hope these will do.

(http://i.imgur.com/h3A2vr8.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ohkZy5l.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9MTJ7c0.jpg)

Edit: I thought it would be quick and I ended up taking like 30 to get three decent pictures...stupid phone.

Edit 2: Accidently posted my address
Title: Re: F (shipping ->20% done)
Post by: 127001 on Sat, 07 December 2013, 19:55:27
Yeah... Best wait for the game boxes... Thanks again.
Title: Re: F (shipping ->20% done)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 07 December 2013, 19:56:47
Yeah... Best wait for the game boxes... Thanks again.

If we're waiting, there is a strong possibility these won't ship until after Christmas. I'm not sure if they have 25 game board boxes at the PO. I know they have a few at mine but not all of them.
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (CONUS ONLY)
Post by: tinlong117 on Sat, 07 December 2013, 19:57:42
2 KISHSHAVERS ARE UP FOR GRABS.
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: Halverson on Sat, 07 December 2013, 20:02:34
2 KISHSHAVERS ARE UP FOR GRABS.

Sadly I need money....take them, take care of my babies someone! Inc Halverson sale soon....
Title: Re: F (shipping ->20% done)
Post by: 127001 on Sat, 07 December 2013, 20:04:21
Yeah... Best wait for the game boxes... Thanks again.

If we're waiting, there is a strong possibility these won't ship until after Christmas. I'm not sure if they have 25 game board boxes at the PO. I know they have a few at mine but not all of them.

I personally don't mind that (is been like 2 months as it is) but I can see why others may. If you're looking to get this done with and you think they'll make it go for it. If you do though I would be inclined to adding a little extra to the shipping cost to put some insurance on them beyond the free $50
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (CONUS ONLY)
Post by: Aer Fixus on Sat, 07 December 2013, 20:57:06
2 KISHSHAVERS ARE UP FOR GRABS.
Dibs! Can I dibs one? If so, DIBS!
(yes. That means I want one. If I'm posting out of turn, sorry. I'm just excited)

Edit: I saw the auction. Ignore this post. Unless of course I can outright buy one :P
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: tinlong117 on Sat, 07 December 2013, 20:59:14
2 KISHSHAVERS ARE UP FOR GRABS.
Dibs! Can I dibs one? If so, DIBS!
(yes. That means I want one. If I'm posting out of turn, sorry. I'm just excited)

Please drop me a pm.
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 07 December 2013, 21:23:44
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Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 07 December 2013, 21:28:41
I want one badly  :'(

I have sat online for hours searching the web for them to no avail.
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: Aer Fixus on Sat, 07 December 2013, 21:41:15
I want one badly  :'(

I have sat online for hours searching the web for them to no avail.
I've found one listed out of my price range. It is the only one I've seen on the entirety of the internet and it's on a pretty shady website. I've called them, sent them e-mails regarding a price drop or any information on it, but they have not responded in any way. They also don't accept PayPal which makes me cautious to give them money.
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 07 December 2013, 21:42:34
I want one badly  :'(

I have sat online for hours searching the web for them to no avail.
I've found one listed out of my price range. It is the only one I've seen on the entirety of the internet and it's on a pretty shady website. I've called them, sent them e-mails regarding a price drop or any information on it, but they have not responded in any way. They also don't accept PayPal which makes me cautious to give them money.
All websites I have contacted for quotes respond saying there is no stock.
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: Aer Fixus on Sat, 07 December 2013, 21:43:55
I want one badly  :'(

I have sat online for hours searching the web for them to no avail.
I've found one listed out of my price range. It is the only one I've seen on the entirety of the internet and it's on a pretty shady website. I've called them, sent them e-mails regarding a price drop or any information on it, but they have not responded in any way. They also don't accept PayPal which makes me cautious to give them money.
All websites I have contacted for quotes respond saying there is no stock.
This one specifically lists having a single one in stock. It could be incorrect, but it's more promising than "request a price"
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 07 December 2013, 21:56:51
Just a heads up, People looking to buy the last 2 kishsavers in NA. They are part of the 25 in my apartment right now. When tinlong lets me know who gets the two, I will ship them out with the rest of them. All of the previous conversation on the last 2 pages about shipping applies to your boards as well.

So yes I'm still deciding on boxes and yes, if I have to order Game Board Flat Rate boxes, there is a strong possibility these may not ship until after Christmas due to my work schedule. It takes 3-5 business days to get the order of boxes in.

Edit: Oh and the shipping on the flat rate is $15.40, not $12. Bad memory

Edit 2: This post only refers to me shipping them. If you want to buy them please ask tinlong117
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: codyeatworld on Sat, 07 December 2013, 22:46:19
I'm tempted to snag another one if you have it cpt...
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: Signature on Sun, 08 December 2013, 05:15:39
Fk if this was international....
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: snoopy on Sun, 08 December 2013, 05:17:16
Fk if this was international....

I'm sure somebody can help you to get one to sweden.
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: Signature on Sun, 08 December 2013, 05:18:35
Ya im thinking about it, it would cost alot of shipping tho
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: snoopy on Sun, 08 December 2013, 05:20:37
Ya im thinking about it, it would cost alot of shipping tho

yeah, but this is a maybe once in a life chance... we're not talking about some poker or filco here... I doubt you see those again
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: tinlong117 on Sun, 08 December 2013, 05:21:11
Jag älskar dig.
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: snoopy on Sun, 08 December 2013, 05:22:46
Jag älskar dig.

you know that sentence in every language? I see, maximizing the chances to get women in bed all around the world.
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: Signature on Sun, 08 December 2013, 05:30:50
Jag älskar dig.
Such language
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING----&gt;80%)
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 08 December 2013, 09:06:30
Sent you a PM. I might have to sell some stuff, but at least I'll have another model F :)
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 December 2013, 18:04:19
I made an executive decision: USPS Board Game Flat Rate boxes for all. I got extremely lucky and one of the post offices I stopped at had a 25pack of the boxes for me. So I have the boxes, bubble wrap, and packing paper now. Packing supplies cost me $30 even. I'll take a picture of the receipt upon request.

I will try and have all of these mailed out Friday 12/13 and Saturday 12/14.

That means I need you guys to pay me shipping ASAP. I will send a PM with my Paypal address; please send as Goods. I have included the Paypal fees. If you don't pay me, I don't ship.

Pricing is:
$15.30 (Flat rate for box) + $1.20 (Shipping supplies) + $.80 (PayPal fee of $.30+2.9%) = $17.30 for shipping if you're in CONUS. I have everyone's address so there's no need to PM me that, just FYI.
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 December 2013, 19:24:39
This thought just occurred to me.

Not sure if it was made clear or if people fully understood but I'm going to put this out there again. There were a few boards with missing keycaps but I've harvested some caps to make them right. There are currently 2 boards with missing keycaps: 1 that has a missing left shift and 1 with a missing spacebar. An M122 will have the proper left shift. The missing spacebar might be trickier. Might have to custom bend wire or something.

Does anyone have an extra set of Model M122 and maybe F caps who doesn't mind getting this boards? Otherwise, you'll have to ask tinlong for the best course of action.



Test pack complete. To the person who gets this one? I'm sorry. The packing is 50% tape since I was learning how to pack this.



If you're wondering, yes, there is a controller coming. GH Secret Skunk Works is on it.
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: Aer Fixus on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:13:16
This thought just occurred to me.

Not sure if it was made clear or if people fully understood but I'm going to put this out there again. There were a few boards with missing keycaps but I've harvested some caps to make them right. There are currently 2 boards with missing keycaps: 1 that has a missing left shift and 1 with a missing spacebar. An M122 will have the proper left shift. The missing spacebar might be trickier. Might have to custom bend wire or something.

Does anyone have an extra set of Model M122 and maybe F caps who doesn't mind getting this boards? Otherwise, you'll have to ask tinlong for the best course of action.

I assume this is for the already claimed boards, not the ones being auctioned?

The spacebar problem could be fixed with the stabilizer mod to allow for a Model M spacebar stabilizer (physically changing the stabilizer clips).
Alternatively, I've made an M-F spacebar converter. So far it's doing good, but I haven't gotten it perfect yet. Once I perfect it, I might be able to distribute it to the people who need F-compatible spacebars.

CPTBadAss Edit: I edited the wrong post, sorry. Aer Fixus' text wasn't altered.
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:17:16
This thought just occurred to me.

Not sure if it was made clear or if people fully understood but I'm going to put this out there again. There were a few boards with missing keycaps but I've harvested some caps to make them right. There is currently one two boards: one that has a missing left shift and one with a missing spacebar. An M122 will have the proper left shift. The missing spacebar might be trickier. Might have to custom bend wire or something.

Does anyone have an extra set of Model M122 and maybe F caps who doesn't mind getting this boards? Otherwise, you'll have to ask tinlong for the best course of action.

I assume this is for the already claimed boards, not the ones being auctioned?

The spacebar problem could be fixed with the stabilizer mod to allow for a Model M spacebar stabilizer. I've made an M-F spacebar converter. So far it's doing good, but I haven't gotten it perfect yet. Once I perfect it, I might be able to distribute it to the people who need F-compatible spacebars.

There are twenty five boards in my possession. 1 is dented and that is being auctioned. 2 of the remaining 24 have missing space bars. One is missing a space bar. One is missing a left shift.
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: Aer Fixus on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:26:18
There are twenty five boards in my possession. 1 is dented and that is being auctioned. 2 of the remaining 24 have missing space bars. One is missing a space bar. One is missing a left shift.
But Tinlong mentioned a second extra. I assume that will be auctioned as well. So is the one with the missing spacebar going up for auction as well (or will it be another, or is that not known yet)?
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:29:11
There are twenty five boards in my possession. 1 is dented and that is being auctioned. 2 of the remaining 24 have missing space bars. One is missing a space bar. One is missing a left shift.
But Tinlong mentioned a second extra. I assume that will be auctioned as well. So is the one with the missing spacebar going up for auction as well (or will it be another, or is that not known yet)?

The two that are being sold in the OP are ones that Halverson backed out of. There's no extra Kishsavers. There are twenty five total in NA right now.

But Tinlong mentioned a second extra. I assume that will be auctioned as well. So is the one with the missing spacebar going up for auction as well (or will it be another, or is that not known yet)?

It's being sent as is as far as I know. I'm not sure that missing a spacebar means that the buyer would back out. I wouldn't based on a space bar. But, Tinlong will have to say otherwise. You're welcome to PM him. That's all I know.
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:42:54
Yeah, but can I buy one of the ones in the OP because I will pay right now if I can..
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: Aer Fixus on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:46:00
Yeah, but can I buy one of the ones in the OP because I will pay right now if I can..
Same. I've PMed him.
Title: Re: KISHSHAVER 2 extra! (NA ONLY) (SHIPPING---->80%)
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:47:25
Yeah, but can I buy one of the ones in the OP because I will pay right now if I can..
Same. I've PMed him.
I did too and I was slightly confused by the response  :-X
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: cgbuen on Mon, 09 December 2013, 23:36:21
Shipping payment sent!
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 10 December 2013, 01:08:53
Does anyone have an extra set of Model M122 and maybe F caps who doesn't mind getting this boards? Otherwise, you'll have to ask tinlong for the best course of action.
I am okay taking the one missing shift. I think I have a spare ISO set that should fit.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 December 2013, 06:23:07
Does anyone have an extra set of Model M122 and maybe F caps who doesn't mind getting this boards? Otherwise, you'll have to ask tinlong for the best course of action.
I am okay taking the one missing shift. I think I have a spare ISO set that should fit.

Youre getting the one that has no caps.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: Aer Fixus on Tue, 10 December 2013, 09:48:31
Yeah, but can I buy one of the ones in the OP because I will pay right now if I can..
Same. I've PMed him.
I did too and I was slightly confused by the response  :-X
The new name of the thread says it all. "kishsaver no more"

I assume they were pretty quickly scoffed up because during my first PM, he led me to the auction and didn't mention anything about just buying one.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 10 December 2013, 09:50:56
Yeah, but can I buy one of the ones in the OP because I will pay right now if I can..
Same. I've PMed him.
I did too and I was slightly confused by the response  :-X
The new name of the thread says it all. "kishsaver no more"

I assume they were pretty quickly scoffed up because during my first PM, he led me to the auction and didn't mention anything about just buying one.
Okay then, I think we both know what this means

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk218/Archammer_ds/Come-At-Me-Bro-khal-drogo-23525547-500-282.gif)
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: Aer Fixus on Tue, 10 December 2013, 09:55:12
Yeah, but can I buy one of the ones in the OP because I will pay right now if I can..
Same. I've PMed him.
I did too and I was slightly confused by the response  :-X
The new name of the thread says it all. "kishsaver no more"

I assume they were pretty quickly scoffed up because during my first PM, he led me to the auction and didn't mention anything about just buying one.
Okay then, I think we both know what this means

Show Image
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk218/Archammer_ds/Come-At-Me-Bro-khal-drogo-23525547-500-282.gif)


Oh, I will. I will...
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: MTManiac on Tue, 10 December 2013, 23:57:29
giggity giggity giggity!

I made an executive decision: USPS Board Game Flat Rate boxes for all. I got extremely lucky and one of the post offices I stopped at had a 25pack of the boxes for me. So I have the boxes, bubble wrap, and packing paper now. Packing supplies cost me $30 even. I'll take a picture of the receipt upon request.

I will try and have all of these mailed out Friday 12/13 and Saturday 12/14.

That means I need you guys to pay me shipping ASAP. I will send a PM with my Paypal address; please send as Goods. I have included the Paypal fees. If you don't pay me, I don't ship.

Pricing is:
$15.30 (Flat rate for box) + $1.20 (Shipping supplies) + $.80 (PayPal fee of $.30+2.9%) = $17.30 for shipping if you're in CONUS. I have everyone's address so there's no need to PM me that, just FYI.

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: joneslee85 on Wed, 11 December 2013, 00:06:33
@Tin: PM sent regarding the Kissaver, I am into this stuff man
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 December 2013, 06:26:51
Just a heads up people, I seem to be losing PMs. If I don't respond within a day to your Kishsaver PMs, please resend them. I've lost 2 PMs two far concerning this proxying. I've also been posting updates in the last few of pages (starting with page 5, easiest to read from latest post backwards).
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 December 2013, 07:33:19
Ok, as of this morning, I have spoken with everyone in regards to shipping. We've either worked something out or you've paid me. To those who paid me, thank you so much for the prompt payments. I was a bit worried about this part and it turned out to be extremely smooth.

As I said, I will try and ship them all out Friday 12/13 or Saturday 12/14. Cutoff for USPS Priority shipping is the 21th (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50754.msg1149184#msg1149184). So even if I can't get it out on Saturday, everyone in should have their Kishsaver (except for those who have an arrangement with me; you know who you are) by Christmas.

If you have any shipping questions, please let me know. If you have any questions regarding the sale of any Kishsaver, please contact Tinlong.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 December 2013, 22:44:16
(http://i.imgur.com/9FOfvZE.jpg)

Shoutouts to Ninjadoc for making this happen. Looking like these are going out Saturday.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: AKIMbO on Thu, 12 December 2013, 22:46:21
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/9FOfvZE.jpg)


Shoutouts to Ninjadoc for making this happen. Looking like these are going out Saturday.

Dats a lot of kishsavers.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 December 2013, 16:25:00
I've printed off the shipping labels. Can someone verify if they got an email with the tracking information? I'm not 100% sure how USPS' site works.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 December 2013, 16:26:30
I've printed off the shipping labels. Can someone verify if they got an email with the tracking information? I'm not 100% sure how USPS' site works.

Did you put their emails in the box that said notify recipient?
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: Michael on Fri, 13 December 2013, 16:26:38
I've printed off the shipping labels. Can someone verify if they got an email with the tracking information? I'm not 100% sure how USPS' site works.


Yep - I got it.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: 127001 on Fri, 13 December 2013, 16:31:29
No email here.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 December 2013, 16:34:29
I've printed off the shipping labels. Can someone verify if they got an email with the tracking information? I'm not 100% sure how USPS' site works.

Did you put their emails in the box that said notify recipient?

Yes, whatever was attached to the buyer's PayPal account is what I used as the notification email address at USPS
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: Game Theory on Fri, 13 December 2013, 16:43:56
I/we got an email with tracking info.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 December 2013, 17:00:04
Awesome! I'm excited this is all working out. Gonna drop the boxes off tomorrow XD.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: Binge on Fri, 13 December 2013, 17:40:16
If anyone would like to acquire my kishsaver please PM me and we can work something out with CPT
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: Binge on Fri, 13 December 2013, 18:24:20
Pending to HPE1000
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: Aer Fixus on Fri, 13 December 2013, 18:25:11
If anyone would like to acquire my kishsaver please PM me and we can work something out with CPT
Right after I just bought the one in the auction...

Edit:
Pending to HPE1000
Wonderful. I felt bad taking the auction from him.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 13 December 2013, 18:31:13
Thanks so much binge  :)
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: Binge on Fri, 13 December 2013, 18:38:17
Thanks so much binge  :)

You're very welcome.  I'm happy to provide this opportunity to another member of the community at cost :)  What I won't be able to accomplish in restoring it I hope you do and enjoy greatly.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: sleepy916 on Fri, 13 December 2013, 18:46:16
I guess my pm was too late.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 13 December 2013, 19:10:11
Thanks so much binge  :)

You're very welcome.  I'm happy to provide this opportunity to another member of the community at cost :)  What I won't be able to accomplish in restoring it I hope you do and enjoy greatly.
Oh I will, it's going to babied and loved for a long time  :)

I have spent too many hours searching and contacting every IT website that claims they have one of these.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 14 December 2013, 12:44:51
As promised, the majority of the CONUS kishsavers are now shipped. If you have multiple boards, have an arrangement with me, haven't paid me for shipping, or don't live in CONUS, I will handle your shipping during this coming week. If you have one board and have already paid me, your board is out in the mail.

(http://i.imgur.com/xec1cDT.jpg)

I randomized the boards by not paying attention to what boards ninjadoc put in the boxes and then mixed the shipping labels and just grabbed a random label and matched it to a random box. If you have any complaints with your board after you receive it, please take it up with tinlong. I am not responsible for what happens to the boards from this point forward now that they're out of my hands. As always, please PM me if you have any questions.

Merry Kishmas everyone! :D

Edit: If you don't have a tracking number, PM me.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 14 December 2013, 12:48:37
As promised, the majority of the CONUS kishsavers are now shipped.

Great work on this.

I am not involved since the initial offering was so confusing that I did not think that I could afford one of these.

Although I still wish that I had gotten one, yet another long-term project is definitely not what I need.

Good luck everybody, and post some photos of your process and finished projects!
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 14 December 2013, 12:49:14
Yay! Thanks for making this possible people  :)

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/excited_elf.gif.pagespeed.ce.IcmEZy2bV8.gif)
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: cgbuen on Tue, 17 December 2013, 13:59:01
Just got mine in last night.. this thing is really cool. A few things:

1. Wow it's heavy.. awesome.

2. It's really cool how the spacebar is the only key that needs a stabilizer bar, and it doesn't need to be opened to fix it if you pull it off (like the AT and XT Fs do).

3. Does anyone find that their spacebar is extremely heavy, and can get stuck sometimes upon depression? Any trick to adjust the stabilizer bar/holders to help this? Without the stabilizer bar it feels like a normal key for me, so it probably is the stabilizer and not the cap/spring/barrel.

4. It looks like there are at least couple of different variants I've seen so far (at least as far as keycaps go) that came in this buy: 127001's (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52394.msg1160902#msg1160902) and codyeatworld's (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1160660#msg1160660) (unless they swapped caps before taking pics). And mine is a little different from both of theirs - I can snap a pic later. One noticeable thing on mine is that like 127001's, I have the fake "winkeys" looking like the bottom halves of two-piece Model M keycaps. cody's has a normal top - not sure if it's one- or two-piece. I might be off to look for some replacements.

5. Thanks tinlong and CPT!  :)
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 December 2013, 14:04:05
Just got mine in last night.. this thing is really cool. A few things:

1. Wow it's heavy.. awesome.

2. It's really cool how the spacebar is the only key that needs a stabilizer bar, and it doesn't need to be opened to fix it if you pull it off (like the AT and XT Fs do).

3. Does anyone find that their spacebar is extremely heavy, and can get stuck sometimes upon depression? Any trick to adjust the stabilizer bar/holders to help this? Without the stabilizer bar it feels like a normal key for me, so it probably is the stabilizer and not the cap/spring/barrel.

4. It looks like there are at least couple of different variants I've seen so far (at least as far as keycaps go) that came in this buy: 127001's (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52394.msg1160902#msg1160902) and codyeatworld's (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1160660#msg1160660) (unless they swapped caps before taking pics). And mine is a little different from both of theirs - I can snap a pic later. One noticeable thing on mine is that like 127001's, I have the fake "winkeys" looking like the bottom halves of two-piece Model M keycaps. cody's has a normal top - not sure if it's one- or two-piece. I might be off to look for some replacements.

5. Thanks tinlong and CPT!  :)

2) Think the backspace has a stabilizer wire in it too.

3) Some of the spacebars are from Model Ms and have a slightly thicker wire diameter than the Model Fs would.

4) I think 127001 swapped caps.

5) You're quite welcome, glad the board arrived safely.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 17 December 2013, 14:19:57
Mine showed up today, the right PD3 key was swapped, the short shift was and I am missing a wire on my spacebar. This is going to be some work, I doubt I will ever find a PD3 key but the short shift should be easy from a model m 122. Any clue how I could make/find a spacebar wire?

(http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1798169/flags/LL)
Thanks though, I love it, it weighs a TON! :D

(http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1798168/flags/LL)
Once again, I think we need to start a thread where any of us who are doing some restoration to these can talk and such  :thumb:
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 17 December 2013, 14:21:49
derp derp derp, there is a thread lol  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: codyeatworld on Tue, 17 December 2013, 14:52:13
I cleaned mine up a bit, I have access to good camera so I'm gonna take some better pics later.
I'm not really sure how to take apart the plate properly so all I did was soak the keys in alka selter for a few and cleaned the case with degreaser.

I only have stabilizer wire in the backspace, all my other wires are missing, The right shift is very janky, but I plan on splitting it if possible. The plastic that would hold the wire is broken on the spacebar, and one the winged reset keys will get jammed.
The V key dosent go down all the way either.
There was a ton of dust balls under the caps too!

So I need a new spacebar + wire.
If possible I want to split the backspace and right shift.
And use an ISO enter key.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: Aer Fixus on Tue, 17 December 2013, 15:56:10
Splitting the backspace and right shift should be perfectly possible. It will be like doing the ANSI mod on a Model F AT or a 122.
Removing the back plate should be easy, but I haven't gotten mine to see exactly how easy (after bending the tab holding it in place, it should just slide off).

Also, regarding the spacebar, I've noticed a lot of people with F122s (and now Kishsavers) that are missing a spacebar. They are actually pretty rare to my knowledge as you can't really find them other than on an existing Model F. I'm working on a stabilizer that will convert Model M spacebars for use on Model F keyboards (122 and 4704, not AT or XT). That thread should be up soon (barring any complications) because I might need it for mine. I'll find out tomorrow.

Edit: or, you could change the tabs on your board to support a Model M spacebar and stabilizer, but that requires removing the ones you have and making and gluing on new ones (to my knowledge. If there is a better way for this mod, I don't know of it).

I cleaned mine up a bit, I have access to good camera so I'm gonna take some better pics later.
I'm not really sure how to take apart the plate properly so all I did was soak the keys in alka selter for a few and cleaned the case with degreaser.

I only have stabilizer wire in the backspace, all my other wires are missing, The right shift is very janky, but I plan on splitting it if possible. The plastic that would hold the wire is broken on the spacebar, and one the winged reset keys will get jammed.
The V key dosent go down all the way either.
There was a ton of dust balls under the caps too!

So I need a new spacebar + wire.
If possible I want to split the backspace and right shift.
And use an ISO enter key.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 17 December 2013, 16:32:10
I'm working on a stabilizer that will convert Model M spacebars for use on Model F keyboards (122 and 4704, not AT or XT). That thread should be up soon (barring any complications) because I might need it for mine. I'll find out tomorrow.


Making a tab is easy. I used sheet metal bent into a "Z" shape and epoxied in place.

I made mine rather long, and they can be "tuned" by bending the opening longer or shorter.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: Aer Fixus on Tue, 17 December 2013, 17:24:33
I'm working on a stabilizer that will convert Model M spacebars for use on Model F keyboards (122 and 4704, not AT or XT). That thread should be up soon (barring any complications) because I might need it for mine. I'll find out tomorrow.


Making a tab is easy. I used sheet metal bent into a "Z" shape and epoxied in place.

I made mine rather long, and they can be "tuned" by bending the opening longer or shorter.

Interesting. I'm not sure if I'll take that route or not. I still need to decide. I don't like making permanent modifications to anything (if there is an alternative), but I might do this if the stabilizer doesn't work out (it looks like the glue I'm using can't take rotational torque in the way I'm using it, which is needed for the stabilizer to work correctly).
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sat, 21 December 2013, 14:53:17
I opened up my kishsaver just to take a look around.  I noticed a couple black plastics pieces on either end that have three holes for the screws and fit between the case and backplate.  I imagine the purpose is to keep the metal parts from moving around and keep the whole assembly secure.  Mine were all cracked up into a few pieces.  I will include some pictures below.

I'm wondering if this is something that we could attempt to remake using a 3-D printer.  These pieces seem somewhat important.

[attach=1][attach=2][attach=3][attach=4]
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 21 December 2013, 15:01:15
HMM, not really helping but it looks like the inside of your case is painted, mine isn't, odd.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: Aer Fixus on Sat, 21 December 2013, 15:17:01
HMM, not really helping but it looks like the inside of your case is painted, mine isn't, odd.
I opened up my kishsaver just to take a look around.  I noticed a couple black plastics pieces on either end that have three holes for the screws and fit between the case and backplate.  I imagine the purpose is to keep the metal parts from moving around and keep the whole assembly secure.  Mine were all cracked up into a few pieces.  I will include some pictures below.

I'm wondering if this is something that we could attempt to remake using a 3-D printer.  These pieces seem somewhat important.

(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
They only seem to be spacers. Mine were also cracked, but when reassembled, the remaining pieces kept the keyboard assembly in place and also kept from touching the top of the case (which is what I image they are meant to do). New ones sure wouldn't hurt, though.

HMM, not really helping but it looks like the inside of your case is painted, mine isn't, odd.

The bottom of mine had paint on the inside, but not on the top. The paint even has fingerprints in it. I imagine that the workers were instructed to paint them, not where to paint them, so some were painted on both sides, some only one the outside.

One of my teachers jobs as a teenager was painting IBM parts. They were hung on a moving rail. They were constantly in motion. They needed to do it quickly, so i imagine only the new workers would paint the insides before they were told to not waste paint, or they were forced to speed up when they made them move faster (something they did on Fridays to keep up with their quota).
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: 127001 on Sat, 21 December 2013, 15:53:31
I opened up my kishsaver just to take a look around.  I noticed a couple black plastics pieces on either end that have three holes for the screws and fit between the case and backplate.  I imagine the purpose is to keep the metal parts from moving around and keep the whole assembly secure.  Mine were all cracked up into a few pieces.  I will include some pictures below.

I'm wondering if this is something that we could attempt to remake using a 3-D printer.  These pieces seem somewhat important.

(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)

I'm getting a 3d printer in January and already have plans for making these along with some stuff to convert model M space bars to work with these. I'll let people know more when I have more info.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 21 December 2013, 17:14:31
I opened up my kishsaver just to take a look around.  I noticed a couple black plastics pieces on either end that have three holes for the screws and fit between the case and backplate.  I imagine the purpose is to keep the metal parts from moving around and keep the whole assembly secure.  Mine were all cracked up into a few pieces.  I will include some pictures below.

I'm wondering if this is something that we could attempt to remake using a 3-D printer.  These pieces seem somewhat important.

(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)

You could also cast them in resin.  It shouldn't be too expensive to do, especially if a bunch of people want them.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: wcass on Sat, 21 December 2013, 20:24:33
OK guys, we need a Kishsaver thread. A place to post pictures, ask questions, and talk about it. I don't think it matters who starts it, but I don't think it belongs in "classifieds". I vote for it being in "making stuff" because we do need to make stuff to get these to work.
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 21 December 2013, 20:25:43
OK guys, we need a Kishsaver thread. A place to post pictures and talk about it. I don't think it matters who starts it, but I don't think it belongs in "classifieds". I vote for it being in "making stuff" because we do need to make stuff to get these to work.

There's one here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52394.0
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: Aer Fixus on Sat, 21 December 2013, 22:20:02
OK guys, we need a Kishsaver thread. A place to post pictures and talk about it. I don't think it matters who starts it, but I don't think it belongs in "classifieds". I vote for it being in "making stuff" because we do need to make stuff to get these to work.

There's one here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52394.0

It appears that one got locked. I don't know why... Was it a mistake? I assume this was the thread intended to be locked...
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 22 December 2013, 00:36:34
Hrm, not sure why!  Unlocked until 127001 complains :)
Title: Re: kishsaver no more
Post by: 127001 on Sun, 22 December 2013, 09:04:12
Hrm, not sure why!  Unlocked until 127001 complains :)

.... I think I might have fat fingered my phone while I was drunk last night.... Sorry about that :P
Title: Re: ssk
Post by: tinlong117 on Mon, 30 December 2013, 19:21:12
Updated

Title: Re: ssk
Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 30 December 2013, 19:22:16
What luck! PM'd.
Title: Re: ssk
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 30 December 2013, 19:31:56
Nice, I am going to pass though :/
Title: Re: ssk
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 30 December 2013, 20:00:20
I want some dirty pics of these dirty boards :thumb:

But dam if I was into SSK's I'd get one seeing as these go for $300 to $400 on ebay no problems
Title: Re: ssk
Post by: Sniping on Mon, 30 December 2013, 20:02:07
I want some dirty pics of these dirty boards :thumb:

But dam if I was into SSK's I'd get one seeing as these go for $300 to $400 on ebay no problems

$300 is a bit on the high end. The one for $430 is probably only that expensive because it's really really clean and has the foam and stuff which people seem to value.

Either way, this is GREAT pricing.
Title: Re: ssk
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 30 December 2013, 22:32:01
Pics would be nice.
Title: Re: ssk
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 08:36:34
package deal. 11 for 1650 usd +200 usd shipping (EMS)
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: josh on Tue, 31 December 2013, 08:58:28
omg 11??
Title: Re: ssk
Post by: DrinkTea on Tue, 31 December 2013, 09:57:21
package deal. 11 for 1650 usd +200 usd shipping (EMS)

If you're going to wholesale them, at least let whoever buys it make a better margin.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: 127001 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 10:01:52
It's probably a 20-30% margin. That's pretty fair :P
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 10:02:54
package deal. 11 for 1650 usd +200 usd shipping (EMS)

If you're going to wholesale them, at least let whoever buys it make a better margin.

then i think i should put them on ebay one by one and let it flies to 300 usd. 
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: DrinkTea on Tue, 31 December 2013, 10:03:25
It's probably a 20-30% margin. That's pretty fair :P

In retail, standard markup is about 100%. He also said they were pretty dirty yesterday. So I don't know how being non-pristine affects the value.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: DrinkTea on Tue, 31 December 2013, 10:04:06
Do they really go for that even if they're not in great condition? I thought you said these were a little dirty.

package deal. 11 for 1650 usd +200 usd shipping (EMS)

If you're going to wholesale them, at least let whoever buys it make a better margin.

then i think i should put them on ebay one by one and let it flies to 300 usd.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 10:04:13
It's probably a 20-30% margin. That's pretty fair :P

In retail, standard markup is about 100%. He also said they were pretty dirty yesterday. So I don't know how being non-pristine affects the value.

but not in keyboard retail.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 10:05:01
Do they really go for that even if they're not in great condition? I thought you said these were a little dirty.

package deal. 11 for 1650 usd +200 usd shipping (EMS)

If you're going to wholesale them, at least let whoever buys it make a better margin.

then i think i should put them on ebay one by one and let it flies to 300 usd.
well, but at least 200 or 220.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: bueller on Tue, 31 December 2013, 10:08:02
Do they really go for that even if they're not in great condition? I thought you said these were a little dirty.

package deal. 11 for 1650 usd +200 usd shipping (EMS)

If you're going to wholesale them, at least let whoever buys it make a better margin.

then i think i should put them on ebay one by one and let it flies to 300 usd.
well, but at least 200 or 220.

Your price is fair tin, any cheaper and you'd be giving them away.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: jwaz on Tue, 31 December 2013, 10:15:38
Your price is fair tin, any cheaper and you'd be giving them away.

/me facepalms
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: bueller on Tue, 31 December 2013, 10:48:05
Your price is fair tin, any cheaper and you'd be giving them away.

/me facepalms

Go look at eBay. Even rough ones are selling for $300.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: t2russo on Tue, 31 December 2013, 12:13:18
^ You would be dropping close to two grand on sight unseen boards.  I was going to take gamble on one of them, but after seeing the banged up connectors on the kishsavers, a lump deal means you could end up with almost a dozen boards that need to scavenge each other to just be usable or cleaned up enough for people to take a risk on them once they see pictures.  You could also end up with 11 perfect boards worth $4400.  There are no promises. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_in_a_poke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_in_a_poke)

Nothing personal against you tin, but anyone who says this is a some screaming good deal is an example of how people here tend to throw basic common sense out the window when it comes to buying keyboards, and ESPECIALLY these old buckling springs.

The high $300 to $400 dollar range applies to goods with known qualities, pictures, and proof, as well as not representing part of a large lump investment that has the potential of never being recoverable.  This isn't just some regular wholesale. 

ALL THIS HAVING BEEN SAID: This is a very unique and rare opportunity.  I hope these make it through shipping well, as this is an influx into an otherwise starving market.  I'd love to see how they turn out.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 31 December 2013, 12:58:14
naturally, i've worked with many many many SSKs, a large potion of which were sourced from taobao.

almost universally, taobao sellers were selling boards with ruined internals, or internals that had a small amount of damage that they then covered with hot glue and ruined. i even made clear to these sellers that i was only interested in the boards for parts and did not care about any issues at all that the board may have, yet they still insisted on kludging broken parts together with hot glue and gumption. personally, if i were to pick up this lot, i would not pay more than 75/board (note that the going rate on taobao is about 40$/board). the labor involved in tearing them down and rebuilding them far outweighs the value of the parts.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 31 December 2013, 14:09:37
Do they really go for that even if they're not in great condition? I thought you said these were a little dirty.

package deal. 11 for 1650 usd +200 usd shipping (EMS)

If you're going to wholesale them, at least let whoever buys it make a better margin.

then i think i should put them on ebay one by one and let it flies to 300 usd.
well, but at least 200 or 220.

Your price is fair tin, any cheaper and you'd be giving them away.

Something tells me tin didn't spend anywhere close to $150 a board to call this price "giving them away".

Especially when you factor he hasn't bothered to post 1 picture and with what happened to the kishsavers that got to anson, that would indicate these might not be any better.

Oh, speaking of, pics would still be nice.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: demik on Tue, 31 December 2013, 14:12:12
Is that little caprice in your sig tin?
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 14:44:18
Is that little caprice in your sig tin?
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/aww-yea.gif.pagespeed.ce.cDvJ58wWyB.gif)
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 20:20:24
Is that little caprice in your sig tin?

Yes.

P.S. You're the fifth guy who ask me this question.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 20:24:04
naturally, i've worked with many many many SSKs, a large potion of which were sourced from taobao.

almost universally, taobao sellers were selling boards with ruined internals, or internals that had a small amount of damage that they then covered with hot glue and ruined. i even made clear to these sellers that i was only interested in the boards for parts and did not care about any issues at all that the board may have, yet they still insisted on kludging broken parts together with hot glue and gumption. personally, if i were to pick up this lot, i would not pay more than 75/board (note that the going rate on taobao is about 40$/board). the labor involved in tearing them down and rebuilding them far outweighs the value of the parts.

Ok. The first batch(8 boards) I sold on deskthority is from taobao. The second batch (5 boards) I sold on here and DT is from Japan. And this batch, is from the states.

Also, you've no clue how they go now.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 31 December 2013, 20:33:00
Is that little caprice in your sig tin?

Yes.

P.S. You're the fifth guy who ask me this question.

How many girls asked you that question?
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 20:34:18
Do they really go for that even if they're not in great condition? I thought you said these were a little dirty.

package deal. 11 for 1650 usd +200 usd shipping (EMS)

If you're going to wholesale them, at least let whoever buys it make a better margin.

then i think i should put them on ebay one by one and let it flies to 300 usd.
well, but at least 200 or 220.

Your price is fair tin, any cheaper and you'd be giving them away.

Something tells me tin didn't spend anywhere close to $150 a board to call this price "giving them away".

Especially when you factor he hasn't bothered to post 1 picture and with what happened to the kishsavers that got to anson, that would indicate these might not be any better.

Oh, speaking of, pics would still be nice.

Well, you're right for the first batch but not the last and this batch.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 31 December 2013, 20:42:52
Then you shouldn't have problems putting pictures up for the potential buyer of your near $2000 transaction.

All we have to go off of are pictures of how your last buy got sent to Anson, and bluntly, those looked like trash and were packed like it, too. 
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 20:52:19
Then you shouldn't have problems putting pictures up for the potential buyer of your near $2000 transaction.

All we have to go off of are pictures of how your last buy got sent to Anson, and bluntly, those looked like trash and were packed like it, too. 

Yes, I admit that I hadn't done a decent job on shipping those to the states. However, I improved on the EU ones.

P.S. I'll take some pics once I've time. I'm quite busy atm.<---not an excuse, though. It only takes me few minutes to do it but that's it.

P.S.2 On the first batch ssks (which are from taobao) that I sold on DT, lots of boards (3 out of 8) ****ed up after arrival to the buyers (broken barrel, etc).
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 20:54:08
And this board is from taobao, too.

Fetched 225 eur.

http://ebay.de/itm?itemId=171195804403

Edit: fixed link http://www.ebay.de/itm/171195804403?redirect=mobile
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: demik on Tue, 31 December 2013, 22:11:50
Is that little caprice in your sig tin?

Yes.

P.S. You're the fifth guy who ask me this question.
You have good taste in porn models
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 31 December 2013, 22:25:28
Then you shouldn't have problems putting pictures up for the potential buyer of your near $2000 transaction.

All we have to go off of are pictures of how your last buy got sent to Anson, and bluntly, those looked like trash and were packed like it, too. 

Yes, I admit that I hadn't done a decent job on shipping those to the states. However, I improved on the EU ones.

P.S. I'll take some pics once I've time. I'm quite busy atm.<---not an excuse, though. It only takes me few minutes to do it but that's it.

P.S.2 On the first batch ssks (which are from taobao) that I sold on DT, lots of boards (3 out of 8) ****ed up after arrival to the buyers (broken barrel, etc).
seriously? this is your defense? so you sold a bunch of cheap broken boards without telling the people you were trading with, you source by any means necessary and do absolutely no quality control, happily sell this potentially broken crap for 400% margin and you would like to give you 200$/board for sniping this junk?
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: meiosis on Tue, 31 December 2013, 22:40:12
Then you shouldn't have problems putting pictures up for the potential buyer of your near $2000 transaction.

All we have to go off of are pictures of how your last buy got sent to Anson, and bluntly, those looked like trash and were packed like it, too. 

Yes, I admit that I hadn't done a decent job on shipping those to the states. However, I improved on the EU ones.

P.S. I'll take some pics once I've time. I'm quite busy atm.<---not an excuse, though. It only takes me few minutes to do it but that's it.

P.S.2 On the first batch ssks (which are from taobao) that I sold on DT, lots of boards (3 out of 8) ****ed up after arrival to the buyers (broken barrel, etc).
seriously? this is your defense? so you sold a bunch of cheap broken boards without telling the people you were trading with, you source by any means necessary and do absolutely no quality control, happily sell this potentially broken crap for 400% margin and you would like to give you 200$/board for sniping this junk?

Makes you wonder if he even has them at hand or is he just drop shipping them like with kishsavers..

Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 22:49:51
Then you shouldn't have problems putting pictures up for the potential buyer of your near $2000 transaction.

All we have to go off of are pictures of how your last buy got sent to Anson, and bluntly, those looked like trash and were packed like it, too. 

Yes, I admit that I hadn't done a decent job on shipping those to the states. However, I improved on the EU ones.

P.S. I'll take some pics once I've time. I'm quite busy atm.<---not an excuse, though. It only takes me few minutes to do it but that's it.

P.S.2 On the first batch ssks (which are from taobao) that I sold on DT, lots of boards (3 out of 8) ****ed up after arrival to the buyers (broken barrel, etc).
seriously? this is your defense? so you sold a bunch of cheap broken boards without telling the people you were trading with, you source by any means necessary and do absolutely no quality control, happily sell this potentially broken crap for 400% margin and you would like to give you 200$/board for sniping this junk?

Makes you wonder if he even has them at hand or is he just drop shipping them like with kishsavers..



**** you! Who the **** bring kishsaver to here? Keep whine about my shipping. Just keep whine about it, you lazy mother****er! I should just auction them one by one. You ****ing ****!
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: dante on Tue, 31 December 2013, 22:58:08
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/876162816/hBA277FC7/)
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 31 December 2013, 22:59:42
Then you shouldn't have problems putting pictures up for the potential buyer of your near $2000 transaction.

All we have to go off of are pictures of how your last buy got sent to Anson, and bluntly, those looked like trash and were packed like it, too. 

Yes, I admit that I hadn't done a decent job on shipping those to the states. However, I improved on the EU ones.

P.S. I'll take some pics once I've time. I'm quite busy atm.<---not an excuse, though. It only takes me few minutes to do it but that's it.

P.S.2 On the first batch ssks (which are from taobao) that I sold on DT, lots of boards (3 out of 8) ****ed up after arrival to the buyers (broken barrel, etc).
seriously? this is your defense? so you sold a bunch of cheap broken boards without telling the people you were trading with, you source by any means necessary and do absolutely no quality control, happily sell this potentially broken crap for 400% margin and you would like to give you 200$/board for sniping this junk?

Makes you wonder if he even has them at hand or is he just drop shipping them like with kishsavers..



**** you! Who the **** bring kishsaver to here? Keep whine about my shipping. Just keep whine about it, you lazy mother****er! I should just auction them one by one. You ****ing ****!

now tinnie chill out.

just take a picture and sell your SSKs
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 31 December 2013, 23:00:12
also isn't this the same thread as the kishsaver sale with edited titles?
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 31 December 2013, 23:01:50
Posting pictures, testing each one and showing they work, and promising to pack things better (like with bubblewrap and packing peanuts and in a reinforced box or boxes) and following through with that would help with a lot of the criticisms that people have.  Swearing like that and being verbally abusive is just going to turn people off.

Or if you just want them gone, why not send them off to someone here who can recondition them and then split the profits at an agreed upon rate?  That would also fix a lot of the criticisms people have with this and the kishsavers.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 23:05:25
Then you shouldn't have problems putting pictures up for the potential buyer of your near $2000 transaction.

All we have to go off of are pictures of how your last buy got sent to Anson, and bluntly, those looked like trash and were packed like it, too. 

Yes, I admit that I hadn't done a decent job on shipping those to the states. However, I improved on the EU ones.

P.S. I'll take some pics once I've time. I'm quite busy atm.<---not an excuse, though. It only takes me few minutes to do it but that's it.

P.S.2 On the first batch ssks (which are from taobao) that I sold on DT, lots of boards (3 out of 8) ****ed up after arrival to the buyers (broken barrel, etc).
seriously? this is your defense? so you sold a bunch of cheap broken boards without telling the people you were trading with, you source by any means necessary and do absolutely no quality control, happily sell this potentially broken crap for 400% margin and you would like to give you 200$/board for sniping this junk?


As is and no return on ebay next time.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 31 December 2013, 23:14:59
Then you shouldn't have problems putting pictures up for the potential buyer of your near $2000 transaction.

All we have to go off of are pictures of how your last buy got sent to Anson, and bluntly, those looked like trash and were packed like it, too. 

Yes, I admit that I hadn't done a decent job on shipping those to the states. However, I improved on the EU ones.

P.S. I'll take some pics once I've time. I'm quite busy atm.<---not an excuse, though. It only takes me few minutes to do it but that's it.

P.S.2 On the first batch ssks (which are from taobao) that I sold on DT, lots of boards (3 out of 8) ****ed up after arrival to the buyers (broken barrel, etc).
seriously? this is your defense? so you sold a bunch of cheap broken boards without telling the people you were trading with, you source by any means necessary and do absolutely no quality control, happily sell this potentially broken crap for 400% margin and you would like to give you 200$/board for sniping this junk?


As is and no return on ebay next time.

But then you can't advertise it here :'(
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: meiosis on Tue, 31 December 2013, 23:31:00
Then you shouldn't have problems putting pictures up for the potential buyer of your near $2000 transaction.

All we have to go off of are pictures of how your last buy got sent to Anson, and bluntly, those looked like trash and were packed like it, too. 

Yes, I admit that I hadn't done a decent job on shipping those to the states. However, I improved on the EU ones.

P.S. I'll take some pics once I've time. I'm quite busy atm.<---not an excuse, though. It only takes me few minutes to do it but that's it.

P.S.2 On the first batch ssks (which are from taobao) that I sold on DT, lots of boards (3 out of 8) ****ed up after arrival to the buyers (broken barrel, etc).
seriously? this is your defense? so you sold a bunch of cheap broken boards without telling the people you were trading with, you source by any means necessary and do absolutely no quality control, happily sell this potentially broken crap for 400% margin and you would like to give you 200$/board for sniping this junk?

Makes you wonder if he even has them at hand or is he just drop shipping them like with kishsavers..



**** you! Who the **** bring kishsaver to here? Keep whine about my shipping. Just keep whine about it, you lazy mother****er! I should just auction them one by one. You ****ing ****!

You can't swear at me, I don't swear, and I bruise easily.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: neunelfer on Wed, 01 January 2014, 00:19:17
Then you shouldn't have problems putting pictures up for the potential buyer of your near $2000 transaction.

All we have to go off of are pictures of how your last buy got sent to Anson, and bluntly, those looked like trash and were packed like it, too. 

Yes, I admit that I hadn't done a decent job on shipping those to the states. However, I improved on the EU ones.

P.S. I'll take some pics once I've time. I'm quite busy atm.<---not an excuse, though. It only takes me few minutes to do it but that's it.

P.S.2 On the first batch ssks (which are from taobao) that I sold on DT, lots of boards (3 out of 8) ****ed up after arrival to the buyers (broken barrel, etc).
seriously? this is your defense? so you sold a bunch of cheap broken boards without telling the people you were trading with, you source by any means necessary and do absolutely no quality control, happily sell this potentially broken crap for 400% margin and you would like to give you 200$/board for sniping this junk?


As is and no return on ebay next time.

So does this mean you're admitting to selling broken/trash boards?
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 01 January 2014, 00:21:46
Don't buy tinnie's **** if you don't think the quality is good. just wait on ebay, you'll either find NIB ssk's or good condition ssk's
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: tinlong117 on Wed, 01 January 2014, 00:23:29
Then you shouldn't have problems putting pictures up for the potential buyer of your near $2000 transaction.

All we have to go off of are pictures of how your last buy got sent to Anson, and bluntly, those looked like trash and were packed like it, too. 

Yes, I admit that I hadn't done a decent job on shipping those to the states. However, I improved on the EU ones.

P.S. I'll take some pics once I've time. I'm quite busy atm.<---not an excuse, though. It only takes me few minutes to do it but that's it.

P.S.2 On the first batch ssks (which are from taobao) that I sold on DT, lots of boards (3 out of 8) ****ed up after arrival to the buyers (broken barrel, etc).
seriously? this is your defense? so you sold a bunch of cheap broken boards without telling the people you were trading with, you source by any means necessary and do absolutely no quality control, happily sell this potentially broken crap for 400% margin and you would like to give you 200$/board for sniping this junk?


As is and no return on ebay next time.

So does this mean you're admitting to selling broken/trash boards?

Whatever you want.

p.s. also, define trash.

Show Image
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/876162816/hBA277FC7/)


Don't we all LOVE drama? Someone starts the drama. Then, someone keep pour gasoline to the fire. I have nothing to do with this. Sorry.


P.S. PM the mods if you find anything that violate the TOS.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: sadbox on Wed, 01 January 2014, 03:56:03
If it helps any, I purchased one of tin's SSKs. It arrived intact, and it's only(?) got 5 broken rivets. Manf in 1993..... There is a running crack between the q and a rows though
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 01 January 2014, 05:50:09
I have nothing to do with this.

lol
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: tinlong117 on Wed, 01 January 2014, 06:15:04
I have nothing to do with this.

lol

Teach me how to end the drama.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: tuxsavvy on Wed, 01 January 2014, 06:27:47
Ideally you need to sort of diffuse the anger but yeah ultimately you need to post pictures. I think there are some unhappy buyers and some concerned potential buyers so photos are nice.

There is always the option of instead selling them on ebay because that is what some people are willing to pay for the keyboards. This would basically give geekhackers no chance to buy up the keyboards. Also the other keyboard forum (deskthority) would be another possible choice.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: nilpt on Wed, 01 January 2014, 08:27:03
And this board is from taobao, too.

Fetched 225 eur.

http://ebay.de/itm?itemId=171195804403

Edit: fixed link http://www.ebay.de/itm/171195804403?redirect=mobile

This sure looks like market speculation.
I'm glad you made that remark  :confused:
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: vivalarevolución on Wed, 01 January 2014, 09:33:57
I have nothing to do with this.

lol

Teach me how to end the drama.


THIS IS HOW YOU END THE DRAMA:

1.  Test the boards to see if they work.
2.  Be upfront about any defects to the boards.
3.  Take some pictures and post them here.
4.  Pack them with plenty of packing material so they are protected and do not move around during the shipping process.
5.  Stand behind your product and be honest and reliable rather than trying to make a quick Hong Kong Dollar from the community.  It helps your creditability, which in turn helps your ability to succeed in any money-making venture.

Your reputation was hurt by that awful packaging job of the Kishsavers.  I do thank you for your efforts to acquire those Kishsavers, BUT the poor packaging and shipping caused some damage to the boards.  Many people now question your reliability and honesty, including myself.

That was free, but I will charge for future advice.  Paypal accepted.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 01 January 2014, 11:20:49

P.S. PM the mods if you find anything that violate the TOS.

You mean like...

**** you! Who the **** bring kishsaver to here? Keep whine about my shipping. Just keep whine about it, you lazy mother****er! I should just auction them one by one. You ****ing ****!

You can't say you have nothing to do with drama when you curse people out for asking questions.  Especially based on your recent history.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Aer Fixus on Wed, 01 January 2014, 11:24:33
Your reputation was hurt by that awful packaging job of the Kishsavers.  I do thank you for your efforts to acquire those Kishsavers, BUT the poor packaging and shipping caused some damage to the boards.

How much damage was there, really?
Broken connectors: who is going to use those connectors? And if someone is, they can source one from someone with an intact connector.
Missing keycaps: while it would have been nice to have original caps, they can be replaced by Unicomp or another Model F keyboard. This one probably wasn't Tinlong's fault, either.
Dented cases: as far as I'm aware, mine is the only one with a dent in it, and it's absolutely tiny and on the bottom case so no one will ever see it but me. I am far from disappointed. I love the thing to death.
Paint chips: the only thing I consider a serious problem because it can't be ignored or easily repaired. They can be repainted, but it's not quite the same.

And sure some people would have preferred pristine everything, but they are buying incredibly rare items that will probably never surface again to this degree.
And Tinlong has learned to pack things better through his mistakes. The packaging problem should not be included in future discussions if he really has learned from his mistake (which I'm certain he has).

And I'm not sure how many times I said it already, but: Thank You, Tinlong and CPTBadAss! I'm very happy with what you guys have done for the community.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 01 January 2014, 12:22:12
Lets try to calm down a little bit here.

THIS IS HOW YOU END THE DRAMA:

1.  Test the boards to see if they work.
2.  Be upfront about any defects to the boards.
3.  Take some pictures and post them here.
4.  Pack them with plenty of packing material so they are protected and do not move around during the shipping process.
5.  Stand behind your product and be honest and reliable rather than trying to make a quick Hong Kong Dollar from the community.  It helps your creditability, which in turn helps your ability to succeed in any money-making venture.

Your reputation was hurt by that awful packaging job of the Kishsavers.  I do thank you for your efforts to acquire those Kishsavers, BUT the poor packaging and shipping caused some damage to the boards.  Many people now question your reliability and honesty, including myself.
This is good advice.

Tinlong:
Now, I know what it's like to have a lot of people vocally out against you. It's not fun and it makes you want to respond the same way. You have to fight that feeling or the circle of drama will continue. Photographing, examining, and fully testing these will be a lot of work, but when they sell, it'll be worth it. It's up to you, but managing this sale well will do a lot to repair any tarnish your reputation may have sustained during the 4704 kb sale.

Everyone else:
Please keep a lid on it a little better from here on. We know what needs to happen for this thread to move forward constructively. Those uninterested in buying these as-posted and who have nothing useful to contribute,  please find another topic to contribute towards instead.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 01 January 2014, 12:23:04
And Tinlong has learned to pack things better through his mistakes.

Are you sure about that?  The Pure PCB I bought from him was wrapped in a single sheet of paper (and when I say wrapped, it was more like the paper was folded in half and it was dropped into it) and tossed into a box to bang around in.  The Kishsavers were packed equally poorly and I've seen other things packed poorly from him.  It would take a pre-shipped pictured of everything bubble wrapped and in peanuts or air bags to convince me otherwise.

People have already presented good solutions to address the criticisms in here.  I think mine wasn't unreasonable nor were the ones presented by prdlm2009.  If he wants to sell them for that much, there definitely needs to be some incentive to buy from him, otherwise you might as well buy one of the many sub $100 SSKs on Taobao.

Here's just a handful of the many cheaper SSKs on Taobao:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=15756920412

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=3495181644

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.9.tBcaBp&id=8178239594

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.50.tBcaBp&id=13782154767

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.41.tBcaBp&id=14322995910

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.huNHlW&id=4821818431

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=13782154767

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=9912443001

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=3459409143

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=14322995910
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Alessandro on Wed, 01 January 2014, 12:34:10
Nubbinator is right. I've had my proxy ship me a couple of SSKs from Taobao recently and they were both in excellent condition. The '93 one that I kept looks NIB.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Aer Fixus on Wed, 01 January 2014, 12:47:33
And Tinlong has learned to pack things better through his mistakes.

Are you sure about that?  The Pure PCB I bought from him was wrapped in a single sheet of paper (and when I say wrapped, it was more like the paper was folded in half and it was dropped into it) and tossed into a box to bang around in.  The Kishsavers were packed equally poorly and I've seen other things packed poorly from him.  It would take a pre-shipped pictured of everything bubble wrapped and in peanuts or air bags to convince me otherwise.

People have already presented good solutions to address the criticisms in here.  I think mine wasn't unreasonable nor were the ones presented by prdlm2009.  If he wants to sell them for that much, there definitely needs to be some incentive to buy from him, otherwise you might as well buy one of the many sub $100 SSKs on Taobao.

Here's just a handful of the many cheaper SSKs on Taobao:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=15756920412

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=3495181644

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.9.tBcaBp&id=8178239594

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.50.tBcaBp&id=13782154767

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.41.tBcaBp&id=14322995910

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.huNHlW&id=4821818431

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=13782154767

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=9912443001

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=3459409143

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=14322995910

I suppose I was mistaken. From what I saw, the Eur Kishsavers did well.

Nubbinator is right. I've had my proxy ship me a couple of SSKs from Taobao recently and they were both in excellent condition. The '93 one that I kept looks NIB.

Hmmm... I think I might bite on one (or two) of these... What does the shipping usually come to after proxy?
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Alessandro on Wed, 01 January 2014, 12:51:55
My proxy did it for free. :)

It cost me 41GBP for non tracked shipping for 2 SSKs. It's about double that for EMS.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Thechemist on Wed, 01 January 2014, 13:26:39
And Tinlong has learned to pack things better through his mistakes.

Are you sure about that?  The Pure PCB I bought from him was wrapped in a single sheet of paper (and when I say wrapped, it was more like the paper was folded in half and it was dropped into it) and tossed into a box to bang around in.  The Kishsavers were packed equally poorly and I've seen other things packed poorly from him.  It would take a pre-shipped pictured of everything bubble wrapped and in peanuts or air bags to convince me otherwise.

People have already presented good solutions to address the criticisms in here.  I think mine wasn't unreasonable nor were the ones presented by prdlm2009.  If he wants to sell them for that much, there definitely needs to be some incentive to buy from him, otherwise you might as well buy one of the many sub $100 SSKs on Taobao.

Here's just a handful of the many cheaper SSKs on Taobao:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=15756920412

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=3495181644

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.9.tBcaBp&id=8178239594

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.50.tBcaBp&id=13782154767

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.41.tBcaBp&id=14322995910

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.huNHlW&id=4821818431

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=13782154767

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=9912443001

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=3459409143

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=14322995910

This looks like a much better deal with pictures. I have added the above 10 SSKs and found one more to equal 11 SpaceSavers for ¥4431 or about $732 ( this includes shipping to proxy ) now I bet you can  pay someone $200 and get them shipped to you with proxy fees. So for under $1000 you can purchase 11 keyboards that have pictures oh and the best part the seller will not insult you if you ask a question about the keyboard.  :thumb:


**** you! Who the **** bring kishsaver to here? Keep whine about my shipping. Just keep whine about it, you lazy mother****er! I should just auction them one by one. You ****ing ****!
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Alessandro on Wed, 01 January 2014, 14:49:34
I will just start by telling you all that quite a few of those listings are sold out, by the way. I don't remember which ones, but the sellers don't update very often, and when my proxy tried to buy some the first time around it turned out there were none, so be prepared to put some time in to it. :)
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 01 January 2014, 15:40:01
And Tinlong has learned to pack things better through his mistakes.

Are you sure about that?  The Pure PCB I bought from him was wrapped in a single sheet of paper (and when I say wrapped, it was more like the paper was folded in half and it was dropped into it) and tossed into a box to bang around in.  The Kishsavers were packed equally poorly and I've seen other things packed poorly from him.  It would take a pre-shipped pictured of everything bubble wrapped and in peanuts or air bags to convince me otherwise.

People have already presented good solutions to address the criticisms in here.  I think mine wasn't unreasonable nor were the ones presented by prdlm2009.  If he wants to sell them for that much, there definitely needs to be some incentive to buy from him, otherwise you might as well buy one of the many sub $100 SSKs on Taobao.

Here's just a handful of the many cheaper SSKs on Taobao:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=15756920412

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=3495181644

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.9.tBcaBp&id=8178239594

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.50.tBcaBp&id=13782154767

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.41.tBcaBp&id=14322995910

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.huNHlW&id=4821818431

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=13782154767

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=9912443001

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=3459409143

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=14322995910

tempting

are these glued together like the ones ming was talking about?
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: do_Og@n on Wed, 01 January 2014, 15:47:15
We should probably start a new thread to see if we can get enough people to go in on this....an SSK Group Buy.

I'm in for one or two.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Aer Fixus on Wed, 01 January 2014, 16:23:13
We should probably start a new thread to see if we can get enough people to go in on this....an SSK Group Buy.

I'm in for one or two.

+1
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Alessandro on Wed, 01 January 2014, 17:25:07
Nice gathering of links Nub. :) It'll just take some effort to see which have stock.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: meiosis on Thu, 02 January 2014, 01:39:14
And Tinlong has learned to pack things better through his mistakes.

Are you sure about that?  The Pure PCB I bought from him was wrapped in a single sheet of paper (and when I say wrapped, it was more like the paper was folded in half and it was dropped into it) and tossed into a box to bang around in.  The Kishsavers were packed equally poorly and I've seen other things packed poorly from him.  It would take a pre-shipped pictured of everything bubble wrapped and in peanuts or air bags to convince me otherwise.

People have already presented good solutions to address the criticisms in here.  I think mine wasn't unreasonable nor were the ones presented by prdlm2009.  If he wants to sell them for that much, there definitely needs to be some incentive to buy from him, otherwise you might as well buy one of the many sub $100 SSKs on Taobao.

Here's just a handful of the many cheaper SSKs on Taobao:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=15756920412

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=3495181644

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.9.tBcaBp&id=8178239594

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.50.tBcaBp&id=13782154767

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.41.tBcaBp&id=14322995910

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.huNHlW&id=4821818431

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=13782154767

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=9912443001

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=3459409143

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.huNHlW&id=14322995910

This looks like a much better deal with pictures. I have added the above 10 SSKs and found one more to equal 11 SpaceSavers for ¥4431 or about $732 ( this includes shipping to proxy ) now I bet you can  pay someone $200 and get them shipped to you with proxy fees. So for under $1000 you can purchase 11 keyboards that have pictures oh and the best part the seller will not insult you if you ask a question about the keyboard.  :thumb:


snip

Tl;Dr: Just do what Tin does and drop-ship everything, buy from Taobao/warehouses and have your proxy/seller ship it to the buyer, insert profit into wallet, never come in contact with items being sold.

Why would Tin care about how stuff is shipped, he probably doesn't even know the condition.

That said, tons of people drop ship, but to do this ssk "package" telling others that hes too "lazy" to sell while pocketing the profits, makes you question his work ethic.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: tinlong117 on Thu, 02 January 2014, 03:29:29
YEAH. I'M HERE TO SCAM ALL YOU KIDS. I'M A SCAMMER. I'M THE WORST SELLER ON THIS PLACE. I SHOULDN'T BRING KISHSAVER TO HERE. I SHOULDN'T BRING ANYTHING TO HERE. I SHOULD PUT ALL THE KISHSAVER ON EBAY AND AUCTION THEM INSTEAD TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE HERE. I'M JUST SO FRUSTRATING NOW. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GREAT CHANCE TO LET YOU GUYS TO HAVE SOME RARE IBM BOARDS, I THOUGHT I WILL NOT CAUSE HAVE ANY FLAME WAR AND I ALSO THOUGHT I WILL GET APPRECIATED. I ADMIT THAT I DID A BAD JOB ON SHIPPING. HOWEVER, I ALREADY APOLOGISED ON GH IRC FOR MANY MANY TIMES. I HAVE NO CLUE WHY PEOPLE STILL BRING THIS UP AGAIN AND AGAIN. I THOUGHT EVERYTHING IS OVER. ALSO, I'M NOT THE ONE WHO HAVE MAKE MISTAKES ON SHIPPING KISHSAVERS.


P.S. TIL: FOLKS ARE THE LOUDEST WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW AN ISSUE.

P.S.2 I SHIP ALL THE KISHSAVERS.

P.S.3 I WOULDN'T BE AMAZED IF I GET A PERMA-BANNED WITH A REASON CALLED SCAMMING. AN UNKNOWN MOD(NOT DV, JDCARPE, MASHBY, JWAZ, HASHBAZ, ETC) BANNED ME WITH THAT REASON BEFORE.

P.S.4 WE NEED MORE DRAMA, KEEP ON GUYS.

P.S.5 I really can't calm myself down, dorkvader, sorry.

Mod edit: language.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 02 January 2014, 03:50:44
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Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 02 January 2014, 12:23:22
YEAH. I'M HERE TO SCAM ALL YOU KIDS. I'M A SCAMMER. I'M THE WORST SELLER ON THIS PLACE. I SHOULDN'T BRING KISHSAVER TO HERE. I SHOULDN'T BRING ANYTHING TO HERE. I SHOULD PUT ALL THE KISHSAVER ON EBAY AND AUCTION THEM INSTEAD TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE HERE. I'M JUST SO FRUSTRATING NOW. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GREAT CHANCE TO LET YOU GUYS TO HAVE SOME RARE IBM BOARDS, I THOUGHT I WILL NOT CAUSE HAVE ANY FLAME WAR AND I ALSO THOUGHT I WILL GET APPRECIATED. I ADMIT THAT I DID A BAD JOB ON SHIPPING. HOWEVER, I ALREADY APOLOGISED ON GH IRC FOR MANY MANY TIMES. I HAVE NO CLUE WHY PEOPLE STILL BRING THIS UP AGAIN AND AGAIN. I THOUGHT EVERYTHING IS OVER. ALSO, I'M NOT THE ONE WHO HAVE MAKE MISTAKES ON SHIPPING KISHSAVERS.

Tin, you should step back a moment and look at the actual criticisms you've received.  They are based on some factual things you've done.  If you basically said you were sorry for how you'd handled the Kishsaver situation and learned from it to package better and such--actions speak louder than words, and your actions show that you have perhaps not learned.  Because you again posted some bulk deal with uncertain terms, no photographs, etc for Two Thousand Dollars.  It's not like pocket change for people.  So why the surprise when people called you out on it.  There could have been a much better way of handling this: by actually getting the things people ask for into the thread, such as detailed information, photographs, and maybe even source. 
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 02 January 2014, 17:03:45

Sigh.

One of the main parts of being an adult is accepting responsibility for your actions.  Learn from it and move on.  Thank those trying to help you and promise to improve the next time.  It's that easy.

If this has already occurred, then great, let's all move forward and make some deals.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 02 January 2014, 20:07:50

Sigh.

One of the main parts of being an adult is accepting responsibility for your actions.  Learn from it and move on.  Thank those trying to help you and promise to improve the next time.  It's that easy.

If this has already occurred, then great, let's all move forward and make some deals.

Who says tin is an adult?
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 02 January 2014, 20:08:38
tinnie is def not an adult
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Alessandro on Thu, 02 January 2014, 20:11:30
tinnie is def not an adult

Neither are we. Who are we to say otherwise? ;)
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 02 January 2014, 20:16:58
tinnie is def not an adult

Neither are we. Who are we to say otherwise? ;)

your not an adult either!
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Alessandro on Thu, 02 January 2014, 20:40:13
tinnie is def not an adult

Neither are we. Who are we to say otherwise? ;)

your not an adult either!

That's the point of me saying "we" in relation to Pacifist and myself.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: demik on Thu, 02 January 2014, 23:20:42
da fuq
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 02 January 2014, 23:45:01
Locking this thread to avoid further confusion with the original topic.  Tinlong, if you want to do the SSK deal please open a new thread.  I'd strongly advise some pictures and a status report on the boards.

Also maybe someone can post nubbinator's taobao SSKs in great finds?  There seems to be some interest in them.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: vivalarevolución on Fri, 03 January 2014, 06:43:20

Sigh.

One of the main parts of being an adult is accepting responsibility for your actions.  Learn from it and move on.  Thank those trying to help you and promise to improve the next time.  It's that easy.

If this has already occurred, then great, let's all move forward and make some deals.

Who says tin is an adult?

I don't know, but it never hurts to start being reliable, thorough, and honest in sales transaction.  I have known teenagers that run good micro businesses, and people of all ages that you cannot trust.
Title: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 03 January 2014, 06:50:52
Hmm.. I thought the thread was locked.

Edit: looks like one can still post via Tapatalk. Photo, probably need to update the Tapatalk plugin in the prim software.
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: ninjadoc on Fri, 03 January 2014, 06:54:07
Not locked!
Title: Re: SSK PACKAGE DEAL 11 FOR 1850 USD SHIPPED!
Post by: tinlong117 on Fri, 03 January 2014, 07:38:50
Hmm.. I thought the thread was locked.

Edit: looks like one can still post via Tapatalk. Photo, probably need to update the Tapatalk plugin in the prim software.

I pm'd hashbaz to unlock the thread. i have something to say which isn't ready yet.


edit: Locked. Will post it when it is ready.