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Title: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 06 November 2013, 14:37:42
I don't know what could have gone wrong :(

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Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: Dgsbllx on Wed, 06 November 2013, 14:39:03
Living Soldering Thread should be able to help you out.

Did it go with a bang  :eek:?
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Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 06 November 2013, 14:39:38
Looks like it fell off a cliff or something... or did it explode?
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Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 06 November 2013, 14:39:49
That's the last time you forget to water the cat first.
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Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 06 November 2013, 14:44:55
Looks like it fell off a cliff or something... or did it explode?

Well, it started it's auto run and then stopped when it got to the brewing part. As I was trying to figure out what was wrong it tipped and fell off the counter, then in a half asleep coffeeless rage I proceeded to stomp it into the floor. Not one of my proudest moments at all.
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Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 06 November 2013, 14:50:30
Oh, I figured you were still half asleep and thought it was a toilet and dropped a cherry bomb in it.
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Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 06 November 2013, 14:53:42
Looks like it fell off a cliff or something... or did it explode?

Well, it started it's auto run and then stopped when it got to the brewing part. As I was trying to figure out what was wrong it tipped and fell off the counter, then in a half asleep coffeeless rage I proceeded to stomp it into the floor. Not one of my proudest moments at all.

May not have been a proud moment for you, but it's completely understandable.

I don't care who you are, starting a day off with a broken coffee maker and no coffee is just horrible. I would have raged too, and Vulcans have total control over their emotions. :))
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Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 06 November 2013, 15:40:33
Looks like it fell off a cliff or something... or did it explode?

Well, it started it's auto run and then stopped when it got to the brewing part. As I was trying to figure out what was wrong it tipped and fell off the counter, then in a half asleep coffeeless rage I proceeded to stomp it into the floor. Not one of my proudest moments at all.

Uh........ rage-quitting like that is unhealthy...
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 06 November 2013, 16:35:47
Replace it with a French press... they are basically failure proof.
(http://www.thethriftymama.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/bodum-8-cup-french-press.jpg)
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Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 06 November 2013, 16:43:04
Replace it with a French press... they are basically failure proof.
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(http://www.thethriftymama.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/bodum-8-cup-french-press.jpg)


Cept when the glass breaks....



....get an aeropress
(http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/kitchen/detailpages/aeropress-hero-260.jpg)
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 06 November 2013, 16:52:17
Nah, get a Chemex:

(http://i.imgur.com/LGXljl2.jpg)
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 06 November 2013, 16:55:59
Nah, get a Chemex:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/LGXljl2.jpg)


Looks even more breaky than the french press....
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 06 November 2013, 16:57:12
What does a Chemex do differently than a coffee maker?
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Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 06 November 2013, 16:57:37
Just boil the grounds in a saucepan!
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 06 November 2013, 16:59:06
What does a Chemex do differently than a coffee maker?

It's all about the filter, not the glass thingy


Just boil the grounds in a saucepan!

Gotta strain it with your teeth too!
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 06 November 2013, 17:01:29
+ 1 for french press...  solid performance.. not likely to break at all..  even when you drop it... the bodum ones have pretty good quality glass.
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Post by: Tym on Wed, 06 November 2013, 17:03:10
I hear Starbucks is pretty popular over there...
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Post by: jwaz on Wed, 06 November 2013, 17:07:48
+ 1 for french press...  solid performance.. not likely to break at all..  even when you drop it... the bodum ones have pretty good quality glass.

Yeah... I've "casually" broken at least 6-7
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Post by: paicrai on Wed, 06 November 2013, 17:08:33
That sucks... On the plus side you may avoid the heroin-like caffeine addiction.
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Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 06 November 2013, 17:10:04
+ 1 for french press...  solid performance.. not likely to break at all..  even when you drop it... the bodum ones have pretty good quality glass.

Yeah... I've "casually" broken at least 6-7

how though.. drops?
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 06 November 2013, 17:12:01
So putting different filters in a coffee maker would be the same thing?
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Post by: smknjoe on Wed, 06 November 2013, 17:14:03
Instant coffee.

1.Heat your water in the microwave for 1.5 min.
2. Stir in your coffee

It's a real pain the ass. ;)
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 06 November 2013, 17:54:43
So putting different filters in a coffee maker would be the same thing?

Ok, it's mostly about the filter. But the ability to control the pour pattern and water temp are another advantage of the chemex
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 06 November 2013, 17:55:57
Instant coffee.

1.Heat your water in the microwave for 1.5 min.
2. Stir in your coffee

It's a real pain the ass. ;)

When you heat water in a microwave, it can get super-heated and explode :D
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: Michael on Wed, 06 November 2013, 17:56:51
Was this related to the non-winning of the EK raffle somehow? :P
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 06 November 2013, 18:05:48
Was this related to the non-winning of the EK raffle somehow? :P

Pls no more drama.
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: smknjoe on Wed, 06 November 2013, 18:13:24
Instant coffee.

1.Heat your water in the microwave for 1.5 min.
2. Stir in your coffee

It's a real pain the ass. ;)

When you heat water in a microwave, it can get super-heated and explode :D

Not in your coffee mug or open dish.

I have had that happen with steam that had no way to escape and pressure built up. Stick an egg in microwave and duck for cover!
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 06 November 2013, 18:36:46
Open to suggestions on what to replace it with. Something that can make 2 cups in less than 6-7 minutes. I have an old Mr. Coffee but it really ruins the taste. What I loved about the recently deceased was the timer setting so the coffee was already waiting as soon as I rolled out of bed in the morning.
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Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 06 November 2013, 18:39:09
Open to suggestions on what to replace it with. Something that can make 2 cups in less than 6-7 minutes. I have an old Mr. Coffee but it really ruins the taste. What I loved about the recently deceased was the timer setting so the coffee was already waiting as soon as I rolled out of bed in the morning.

just go on amazon... buy something that's $500... that's where all the really snazzy stuff is.
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 06 November 2013, 18:44:43
Open to suggestions on what to replace it with. Something that can make 2 cups in less than 6-7 minutes. I have an old Mr. Coffee but it really ruins the taste. What I loved about the recently deceased was the timer setting so the coffee was already waiting as soon as I rolled out of bed in the morning.

just go on amazon... buy something that's $500... that's where all the really snazzy stuff is.

Beyond the budget my friend.
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: Malphas on Wed, 06 November 2013, 18:50:01
What about a moka pot?

(http://whatscookingamerica.net/Beverage/MokaPot2.jpg)
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 06 November 2013, 20:06:17
Do what a normal working person would do. Go to Starbucks.  :p
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Post by: smknjoe on Wed, 06 November 2013, 21:19:30
Seriously, what's wrong with instant coffee? You can even get it from Starbucks if Nescafe isn't up your alley. It's what the majority of Europeans use at home from what I hear.

French presses are nice but a hassle. Grinding beans, waiting for water to boil.
Coffee makers in general are a pain in the ass. Cleaning, filters.
 Keurigs are trendy, but expensive and a pain to clean. I gave mine away.
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 06 November 2013, 21:30:53
Instant coffee is fine if you surgically remove your tongue.   And just because Europeans like it doesn't mean it's good.
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Post by: smknjoe on Wed, 06 November 2013, 21:33:41
Instant coffee is nothing more than dehydrated coffee and/or ground coffee. As much cream and sugar most people put in their coffee they can't tell the difference anyway. The only way taste would really matter is if you drank it black.
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Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 06 November 2013, 21:33:42
Instant coffee is fine if you surgically remove your tongue.   And just because Europeans like it doesn't mean it's good.

what's the difference between instant coffee and those keurig packs.. I'm not a connoisseur yet.. but.. it doesn't seem like "good" instant coffee is technologically unfeasible.. 
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: smknjoe on Wed, 06 November 2013, 21:35:33
Instant coffee is fine if you surgically remove your tongue.   And just because Europeans like it doesn't mean it's good.

what's the difference between instant coffee and those keurig packs.. I'm not a connoisseur yet.. but.. it doesn't seem like "good" instant coffee is technologically unfeasible.. 

There isn't a big difference. And Starbucks makes some instant coffee that's really quite good.
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Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 06 November 2013, 21:43:35
I'm more of a caramel macchiato person but recently started to love the pumpkin spice latte.
Not a heavy coffee drinker I am.
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 06 November 2013, 21:44:58
Instant coffee is nothing more than dehydrated coffee and/or ground coffee. As much cream and sugar most people put in their coffee they can't tell the difference anyway. The only way taste would really matter is if you drank it black.

Black is the only way to drink it.  I'd argue the reason most people add so much sugar and cream is because they use such bad coffee or brew it terribly.
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Post by: smknjoe on Wed, 06 November 2013, 21:52:56
Instant coffee is nothing more than dehydrated coffee and/or ground coffee. As much cream and sugar most people put in their coffee they can't tell the difference anyway. The only way taste would really matter is if you drank it black.

Black is the only way to drink it.  I'd argue the reason most people add so much sugar and cream is because they use such bad coffee or brew it terribly.

I can't argue with that Nub. I used to be quite the coffee snob because of that, but these days I'm just happy to get a little caffeine fix and not think too much about it.
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: JoeC on Wed, 06 November 2013, 21:57:49
I hear Starbucks is pretty popular over there...
Do what a normal working person would do. Go to Starbucks.  :p
Instant coffee is fine if you surgically remove your tongue.   And just because Europeans like it doesn't mean it's good.

what's the difference between instant coffee and those keurig packs.. I'm not a connoisseur yet.. but.. it doesn't seem like "good" instant coffee is technologically unfeasible.. 

There isn't a big difference. And Starbucks makes some instant coffee that's really quite good.

(http://iweb.cooking.com/images/products/morephotos/601702_e1.jpg)
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Post by: inteli722 on Wed, 06 November 2013, 22:02:43
I'm afraid I'll get either laughed out or branded a heretic, but I do like my Keurig, especially if you find coffee you like (Which is the worst part of it).
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Post by: Badwrench on Wed, 06 November 2013, 22:43:05
I have this one and love it.  http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DCC-1200-Central-Programmable-Coffeemaker/dp/B00005IBX9/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1383799157&sr=8-6&keywords=coffee+maker (http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DCC-1200-Central-Programmable-Coffeemaker/dp/B00005IBX9/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1383799157&sr=8-6&keywords=coffee+maker)  I don't use the timer function as I grind my beans right before I brew.  The 4 cup option makes a quick cup.  10 cups in about 5-7 min.  It also has a a charcoal filter in the water area. 

I use a press at work.  The giant coffee maker at work makes the worst coffee I have ever tasted.  Doesn't matter if I put my own grind in it.  Always tastes burnt and bitter. 
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Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 07 November 2013, 00:13:42
holy CRAP  :eek: :eek:
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Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 07 November 2013, 00:24:39
I have this one and love it.  http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DCC-1200-Central-Programmable-Coffeemaker/dp/B00005IBX9/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1383799157&sr=8-6&keywords=coffee+maker (http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DCC-1200-Central-Programmable-Coffeemaker/dp/B00005IBX9/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1383799157&sr=8-6&keywords=coffee+maker)  I don't use the timer function as I grind my beans right before I brew.  The 4 cup option makes a quick cup.  10 cups in about 5-7 min.  It also has a a charcoal filter in the water area. 

I use a press at work.  The giant coffee maker at work makes the worst coffee I have ever tasted.  Doesn't matter if I put my own grind in it.  Always tastes burnt and bitter. 

http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DGB-650BC-Thermal-Automatic-Coffeemaker/dp/B001G8Y2WW/ref=sr_1_4?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1383805385&sr=1-4 (http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DGB-650BC-Thermal-Automatic-Coffeemaker/dp/B001G8Y2WW/ref=sr_1_4?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1383805385&sr=1-4) is the one that died on me today, after only 6 months.
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Post by: demik on Thu, 07 November 2013, 00:25:25
probably has to do with the 16 marijuanas you smoked.

16!
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Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 00:34:06
I drink coffee frequently and I almost always drink it black, I get just about any kind of peets coffee. I am thinking about getting a french press, right now I use a singe serve bun coffee maker that can do normal coffee and pods (i dont use the pods) it is pretty good but I think I want to try a french press for when I can wait more than the minute or two it takes to make coffee with my maker.
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Post by: iri on Thu, 07 November 2013, 00:51:39
Seriously, what's wrong with instant coffee? You can even get it from Starbucks if Nescafe isn't up your alley. It's what the majority of Europeans use at home from what I hear.
yuckity yuck.
never heard that.
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Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 07 November 2013, 03:05:23
I have this one and love it.  http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DCC-1200-Central-Programmable-Coffeemaker/dp/B00005IBX9/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1383799157&sr=8-6&keywords=coffee+maker (http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DCC-1200-Central-Programmable-Coffeemaker/dp/B00005IBX9/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1383799157&sr=8-6&keywords=coffee+maker)  I don't use the timer function as I grind my beans right before I brew.  The 4 cup option makes a quick cup.  10 cups in about 5-7 min.  It also has a a charcoal filter in the water area. 

I use a press at work.  The giant coffee maker at work makes the worst coffee I have ever tasted.  Doesn't matter if I put my own grind in it.  Always tastes burnt and bitter. 

http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DGB-650BC-Thermal-Automatic-Coffeemaker/dp/B001G8Y2WW/ref=sr_1_4?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1383805385&sr=1-4 (http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DGB-650BC-Thermal-Automatic-Coffeemaker/dp/B001G8Y2WW/ref=sr_1_4?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1383805385&sr=1-4) is the one that died on me today, after only 6 months.

That sucks.  Mine has been going strong with daily use for over 2 years.  The same one that my wife took over 5 years ago that we had is also still going.  It comes in pink if that helps. 
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: mashby on Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:37:22
Nah, get a Chemex:

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(http://i.imgur.com/LGXljl2.jpg)


I got a Chemex about two years ago and I love it. That would be my recommendation too.
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: Malphas on Fri, 08 November 2013, 16:14:35
French presses are nice but a hassle. Grinding beans, waiting for water to boil.
Eh? You have to wait for water to boil when using instant as well, so that's irrelevant. You can also buy grounds rather than beans and it's essentially no more hassle than making instant.
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Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 08 November 2013, 16:51:54
Wound up going with this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0064ONLW0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0064ONLW0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

It's programmable has some good reviews, and no reports of it breaking in any way.
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 08 November 2013, 21:33:45
Black Espresso all the way.  Besides my company just bought a brand new Bosch Benvenuto B30 for us in the office and I can't stop using it.

Imagine in all that dust, oil, grime and filth we get this little piece of heaven.  I don't mind putting up with a lot of misery but this just makes it all worth while.
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: Malphas on Sat, 09 November 2013, 11:03:32
What do you work as, Elrick?
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Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 09 November 2013, 12:56:19
I got a Chemex about two years ago and I love it. That would be my recommendation too.

I use this, too, although I have a plastic single-cup pour-through that sits on top of the coffee mug itself.

I usually only drink one cup, and this is the easiest device to clean, by far.
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Post by: eth0s on Sat, 09 November 2013, 13:19:21
Nah, get a Chemex:

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(http://i.imgur.com/LGXljl2.jpg)


I got a Chemex about two years ago and I love it. That would be my recommendation too.

+1 for Chemex.  Best coffee maker you can get, other than a high pressure espresso machine at a coffee house, of course, which is clearly superior but costs a few thousand dollars more.   Chemex can be had for under $50.  Maybe under $40 if you are a good shopper.

Chemex filters out the bitterness, leaves only coffee flavor.  Makes a full-bodied flavorful coffee.  It has been the favorite method of coffee connoiseurs for more than 40 years, so it can't be bad.  Advantages of Chemex are the conical shape, with heavy bond paper filters.  It takes 7-10 minutes for the water to pass through the coffee grounds in the filter, which is supposed to be the perfect amount of time to brew coffee.  Anything more imparts too much bitterness and acidity, anything less makes weak coffee.  I use one, and I like it.  And I've tried them all, from Moka type to French press to Mr. Coffee.
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: Malphas on Sat, 09 November 2013, 14:39:09
Do you have to stand there for 7-10 minutes pouring water into it, or can you pour it all the water in one go then leave it alone and come back when it's done filtering?
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Post by: smknjoe on Sat, 09 November 2013, 14:53:12
French presses are nice but a hassle. Grinding beans, waiting for water to boil.
Eh? You have to wait for water to boil when using instant as well, so that's irrelevant. You can also buy grounds rather than beans and it's essentially no more hassle than making instant.

Microwaving a cup of water for 1.5 minutes is much faster than waiting ~10 min. for boiling water.

If you are really serious about coffee (like I used to be) then you really need a french press, a grinder that crushes the beans instead of cutting them with a blade, and a glass kettle for heating water because metal can impart unwanted flavor. Of course, you can only use purified water since you don't want any impurities to taint your magical brew. Any serious coffee lover would never buy anything other than whole beans since ground coffee starts to lose flavor as soon as it is ground.
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Post by: Malphas on Sat, 09 November 2013, 15:39:42
It doesn't matter what method you use though, the fact is you still need to create hot water from somewhere for both methods, so you can't claim instant is faster due to the boiling process. e.g. in your example you could just as easily microwave a cup of water and use it with a french press.

However if you think microwaves are faster than electric kettles you're completely wrong. An electric kettle with a heating element submerged in the water is by far the fastest and most efficient practical way to boil water in a domestic setting.

The rest of your logic is nonsense. You initially stated that french presses were hassle due to grinding beans and waiting for water to boil, in comparasion to instant. We've already established that the boiling water part applies equally to both. Your next argument is that if you use a french press then you must do all these other arbitrary steps like grinding the beans, using a glass container for boiling, etc. - which obviously isn't the case.

If you want to use instant, fair enough, I don't care, I'm not a coffee-snob; but don't pretend a french press is so much more time consuming and hassle than instant, because it's not - there's barely any difference in time and hassle between making a cup of instant and using a french press with ready ground coffee.
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Post by: eth0s on Sat, 09 November 2013, 16:30:18
Do you have to stand there for 7-10 minutes pouring water into it, or can you pour it all the water in one go then leave it alone and come back when it's done filtering?

This is the drawback, you have to stand there pouring hot water.  Also, to be really accurate you should get a thermometer and pour the water at about 200F (just below boiling.  Tea needs boiling water, coffee needs near-boiling water.)  But this is for optimal coffee.  You can do whatever you want.  And if you are too busy to pour the water, really you can do three pours.  Pour once, walk away for a minute.  Pour again, walk away.  And then pour again, and walk away, and when you come back you will have 8 cups of coffee in the pot.  The smaller Chemex is probably easier to use, I guess.  I dunno because I have the biggest version which is the 8-cup model.  I think there are a 4-cups and 6-cups smaller versions.  Maybe the smallest one only needs one pour.
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Post by: Malphas on Sat, 09 November 2013, 16:33:54
Hmm, that's no use to me then sadly.
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Post by: eth0s on Sat, 09 November 2013, 16:49:32
Hmm, that's no use to me then sadly.

It might sound like using the Chemex is more work than the Moka-type coffee maker, but it's really not.  The Moka-type requires loading the bottom, and then packing the coffee section.  It's true that the coffee making in the Moka-type is pretty simple with just leaving it on the stove, but then there's the cleaning afterwards that takes time.  Similarly, the French press might seem easier to load and fill with water, but the clean-up is a lot messier, and a lot more time consuming, than the Chemex.

I assume you are pressed for time when you are making coffee at home in the morning before work, but you can easily do it with the Chemex, even when time is short.  The prep time is shorter, and the cleanup is a breeze, you just chuck the filter and spent coffee grounds in the trash.  You just have to multi-task while pouring the water, i.e., eat a scone with clotted cream or read the Daily Mail or something.  And of course, if you can take your time on the weekend, or days off, you can enjoy Chemex coffee on those days.  Don't dismiss the Chemex without trying it out, is my humble advice.  You might hate it, I dunno, but it's worth a try,  simply because the coffee tastes better.
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: Malphas on Sat, 09 November 2013, 17:10:52
I like that you can just throw the filter out with the grounds and you've got a carafe of coffee for serving or to sit and use for multiple cups yourself, so I might get one to use at the weekend at least.
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 09 November 2013, 17:15:45
What do you work as, Elrick?

Started out as a diesel mechanic but now am the senior shift manager, as the highlighted title says on my fort-nightly pay packet  :thumb: .
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: smknjoe on Sat, 09 November 2013, 20:44:53
It doesn't matter what method you use though, the fact is you still need to create hot water from somewhere for both methods, so you can't claim instant is faster due to the boiling process. e.g. in your example you could just as easily microwave a cup of water and use it with a french press.

However if you think microwaves are faster than electric kettles you're completely wrong. An electric kettle with a heating element submerged in the water is by far the fastest and most efficient practical way to boil water in a domestic setting.

The rest of your logic is nonsense. You initially stated that french presses were hassle due to grinding beans and waiting for water to boil, in comparasion to instant. We've already established that the boiling water part applies equally to both. Your next argument is that if you use a french press then you must do all these other arbitrary steps like grinding the beans, using a glass container for boiling, etc. - which obviously isn't the case.

If you want to use instant, fair enough, I don't care, I'm not a coffee-snob; but don't pretend a french press is so much more time consuming and hassle than instant, because it's not - there's barely any difference in time and hassle between making a cup of instant and using a french press with ready ground coffee.

You might want to lay off of the coffee a little bit there, bro. :) My last example was a suggestion as to how a great cup of coffee can be had, not to make a point about the amount of time it takes.
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: Malphas on Sat, 09 November 2013, 20:51:19
Right, fair enough. But you misunderstand me, I'm not getting excited over this, I'm just detailing how what you said before makes no sense and I don't get it. A french press doesn't really take any more time or effort than instant coffee, contrary to what you were claiming to begin with.
Title: Re: So my coffee maker broke this morning...
Post by: smknjoe on Sat, 09 November 2013, 21:03:43
I originally stated that a french press was too much of a hassle for me in the context that I don't like to have to clean or maintain a coffee maker or any other peripherals associated with the process of making coffee used in "traditional" methods. Nor do I like to wait longer than the time it takes to make exactly one cup of coffee. That's why I am happy with instant coffee most of the time (even if it's not as "good" as other methods.)