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geekhack Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: paicrai on Thu, 14 November 2013, 14:32:22
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This is something we've all seen. We saw ads and reviews of a movie from not America. The movie looks pretty good, from what you've seen.
Some time later, you discover a movie which looks strangely familiar - But holy ****, it's American! Fantastic! Now you can watch the... Same movie... ok...
Why does this happen? Why do movies get re-made or spun/ripped off to be more American? This isn't me bashing America, it's just that it's where all these unnecessary movie remakes get made.
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ITT: Holier than thou European attitude
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This is something we've all seen. We saw ads and reviews of a movie from not America. The movie looks pretty good, from what you've seen.
Some time later, you discover a movie which looks strangely familiar - But holy ****, it's American! Fantastic! Now you can watch the... Same movie... ok...
Why does this happen? Why do movies get re-made or spun/ripped off to be more American? This isn't me bashing America, it's just that it's where all these unnecessary movie remakes get made.
You're just being a regular ole hater today, aren't you?
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This is something we've all seen. We saw ads and reviews of a movie from not America. The movie looks pretty good, from what you've seen.
Some time later, you discover a movie which looks strangely familiar - But holy ****, it's American! Fantastic! Now you can watch the... Same movie... ok...
Why does this happen? Why do movies get re-made or spun/ripped off to be more American? This isn't me bashing America, it's just that it's where all these unnecessary movie remakes get made.
You're just being a regular ole hater today, aren't you?
No, for ****s sake, it's just a question and I want to start discussion.
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If the film uses a language other than English, then it immediately alienates the majority of the English-speaking audience. The majority of the world is pretty used to watching dubbed/subbed films but the fact English is the first language of such a wide range of countries and that the USA has traditionally had a greater proportional output of cinema, mean English-speaking audiences aren't used to going to see a movie and having to read subtitles or listen to a dub track.
When the film already uses English, but Hollywood still remakes it it's just a combination of laziness (90% of current movies for the past few years seem to be remakes and adaptations or gratuitous sequels and spinoffs) and the fact they can bank on a proven concept, "Americanize" it and appeal to a wider audience than the original.
The Hunger Game films bother me in particular. An adaptation of a book, which in turn was a plagiarism of a movie, which was itself an adaptation of a book. Really they took Battle Royale, added a dollop of Shirley Jackson's "The Lottery", a hint of pseudo-feminism then stripped out the subtext and symbolism and instead replaced it with a shallow, heavy-handed token attempt at social commentary.
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Kick Ass 2 was Americaniz'ed. :'(
Also they killed the TV show "inbetweeners" not sure how, they didn't even change the scripts.
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What I really hate is how Doctor Who "went Hollywood" when Matt Smith started.
I have been watching since the 1970s, and that quaint Anglo charm was very important to my enjoyment of it.
Now they changed "everything" (even the music and opening - I know that it has been changed, subtly, over the years, but not like this) and it has lost its charm altogether.
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It's thespitative easing.
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It's worth noting that there's been a tilt in recent years, particularly due to the cinema industry in China. I suspect Hong Kong might even exceed Hollywood in terms of scale at some point in the future. A lot more people watch movies like Ip Man - just straight up mainstream action stuff - than back when watching a subbed foreign movie was seen as arthouse/pretentious. It's at the stage now where Hong Kong is actually remaking a lot of American movies to market to the Chinese audience.
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Kick Ass 2 was Americaniz'ed. :'(
Also they killed the TV show "inbetweeners" not sure how, they didn't even change the scripts.
See: Why do things have to be altered for culture.
The Office nearly didn't get a season two for the exact same reason. They adjust for an American audience and people fall head over heels to watch it for 7 more years.
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Short answer: Hollywood is a business.
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The Office
https://imgur.com/gallery/HMvON (https://imgur.com/gallery/HMvON)
relevant
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Short answer: Hollywood is a business.
^This. QFT.
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Kick Ass 2 was Americaniz'ed. :'(
Also they killed the TV show "inbetweeners" not sure how, they didn't even change the scripts.
See: Why do things have to be altered for culture.
The Office nearly didn't get a season two for the exact same reason. They adjust for an American audience and people fall head over heels to watch it for 7 more years.
I dont understand :3 You agreeing with me ?
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ITT: Holier than thou European attitude
I'm having trouble seeing if that was a reach-around or a snarky remark of sorts... I need to get more adjusted to this forum.
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Kick Ass 2 was Americaniz'ed. :'(
Also they killed the TV show "inbetweeners" not sure how, they didn't even change the scripts.
Hollywood: "However you're making movies, you're doing it wrong."
Yep, that's about it.
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Kick Ass 2 was Americaniz'ed. :'(
Also they killed the TV show "inbetweeners" not sure how, they didn't even change the scripts.
See: Why do things have to be altered for culture.
The Office nearly didn't get a season two for the exact same reason. They adjust for an American audience and people fall head over heels to watch it for 7 more years.
I dont understand :3 You agreeing with me ?
Yes, I think.
thought you sounded confused as to why a non-changed scripted show didn't work in the US. I might have misread that.
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Oh no, the point I was making was that a hugely successful show over here, worked well. And they copied it directly, and it failed. Which I kinda supposed was the point you agreed with...
Ladies and gentlemen, Mr Conway Twitty
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No, for ****s sake, it's just a question and I want to start a flame war.
FTFY
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I see a few major reasons it is done:
1. Americans often seem they can't read, or at least have too hard of time reading AND paying attention to the rest of the screen at the same time. For the most part non-English subtitles films do terrible at American box office.
2. There are no recognizable big name 'actors' in the foreign film. It makes it a bigger risk for distributor from a sales perspective.
3. Hollywood seem to LOVE remakes as they don't have to bother coming up with anything original.
4. There are still REALLY bizarre regional distribution schemes in media which can make it very difficult to impossible to offer it in other regions, but they seem to have an easier time optioning the screenplay.
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I see a few major reasons it is done:
1. Americans often seem they can't read, or at least have too hard of time reading AND paying attention to the rest of the screen at the same time. For the most part non-English subtitles films do terrible at American box office.
2. There are no recognizable big name 'actors' in the foreign film. It makes it a bigger risk for distributor from a sales perspective.
3. Hollywood seem to LOVE remakes as they don't have to bother coming up with anything original.
4. There are still REALLY bizarre regional distribution schemes in media which can make it very difficult to impossible to offer it in other regions, but they seem to have an easier time optioning the screenplay.
1. Americans are dumb
2. Americans are shallow
3. Americans are lazy
4. Potential legit reason
seemslegit.jpg
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No, for ****s sake, it's just a question and I want to start a flame war.
FTFY
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I see a few major reasons it is done:
1. Americans often seem they can't read, or at least have too hard of time reading AND paying attention to the rest of the screen at the same time. For the most part non-English subtitles films do terrible at American box office.
2. There are no recognizable big name 'actors' in the foreign film. It makes it a bigger risk for distributor from a sales perspective.
3. Hollywood seem to LOVE remakes as they don't have to bother coming up with anything original.
4. There are still REALLY bizarre regional distribution schemes in media which can make it very difficult to impossible to offer it in other regions, but they seem to have an easier time optioning the screenplay.
1. Americans are dumb
2. Americans are shallow
3. Americans are lazy
4. Potential legit reason
seemslegit.jpg
Those are all true enough though. They just don't apply exclusively to Americans.
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I see a few major reasons it is done:
1. Americans often seem they can't read, or at least have too hard of time reading AND paying attention to the rest of the screen at the same time. For the most part non-English subtitles films do terrible at American box office.
2. There are no recognizable big name 'actors' in the foreign film. It makes it a bigger risk for distributor from a sales perspective.
3. Hollywood seem to LOVE remakes as they don't have to bother coming up with anything original.
4. There are still REALLY bizarre regional distribution schemes in media which can make it very difficult to impossible to offer it in other regions, but they seem to have an easier time optioning the screenplay.
1. Americans are dumb
2. Americans are shallow
3. Americans are lazy
4. Potential legit reason
seemslegit.jpg
Those are all true enough though. They just don't apply exclusively to Americans.
True it seems to apply worldwide, especially here in Convict Town. The average Australian has an IQ equivalency to a plank of wood. Dumb doesn't even describe the current population that resides here. In fact dare I say it, the average American has a higher intelligence compared to an average Aussie.
Hence why make films for the top intelligentsia to enjoy because it would only represent a shallow under 5% of the total population. Easier to make more money catering to morons with their favorite type of films, for example - super heroes, naked chicks and fast bikes, cars, planes, space ships and alien creatures.
Unfortunately there is very little of quality film making going on at this moment in time but I guess this might be the 'moron' phase that will stay with us for a few more years yet. There will be a revival in the future as people hunger for something more than just bare tits and fast cars, but then again I may be wrong.
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I wonder how bad/good "Delivery Man" will be?
The French Canadian original "Starbuck" was a blast.
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1. People are dumb
2. People are shallow
3. People are lazy
4. Potential legit reason
seemslegit.jpg
ftfy
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I see a few major reasons it is done:
1. Americans often seem they can't read, or at least have too hard of time reading AND paying attention to the rest of the screen at the same time. For the most part non-English subtitles films do terrible at American box office.
99% != all
But a majority do seem averse to reading sub-titles while watching media.
I'd kill for subtitles during a live play or musical, sometimes it's freaking hard to hear/follow every line.
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Money. Americans have the most.
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sometimes it's freaking hard to hear/follow every line.
I always turn on subtitles whenever I can.
It irritates the crap out of me that Netflix rarely streams subtitles. It used to be never, now they are sometimes available.
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Money. Americans have the most.
You forgot you borrowed all that money from the Communist Chinese, so lets face the facts here :p .
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Money. Americans have the most.
You forgot you borrowed all that money from the Communist Chinese, so lets face the facts here :p .
Yeah... "borrowed"...
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1. Americans are dumb
2. Americans are shallow
3. Americans are lazy
4. Potential legit reason
5. Americans are numerous
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I see a few major reasons it is done:
1. Americans often seem they can't read, or at least have too hard of time reading AND paying attention to the rest of the screen at the same time. For the most part non-English subtitles films do terrible at American box office.
But when it's actually worth paying attention to the pretty pictures, there's mostly nothing to read or nothing worth reading in the subtitles.
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sometimes it's freaking hard to hear/follow every line.
I always turn on subtitles whenever I can.
It irritates the crap out of me that Netflix rarely streams subtitles. It used to be never, now they are sometimes available.
^^ This 1000x
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The worst example of this would probably be the "Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" series. The originals were great, why remake them using American actors? I can see why they do it -- to make it more accessible to an American audience, but if you're going to remake something, it should be better than the original if at all possible. And from a marketplace view, it's good for foreign filmmakers -- they get money for making a great product.
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Short answer: Hollywood is a business.
This. Can we lock the thread now? :blank:
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Short answer: Hollywood is a business.
This. Can we lock the thread now? :blank:
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The I.T. Crowd is the saddest example. I hated the americanized remake.
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Short answer: Hollywood is a business.
This. Can we lock the thread now? :blank:
If you can't have a reasonable discussion like the majority of other people then why bother participating in the thread in the first place?
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Short answer: Hollywood is a business.
This. Can we lock the thread now? :blank:
If you can't have a reasonable discussion like the majority of other people then why bother participating in the thread in the first place?
There's nothing left to discuss...hence my previous post. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out either. You're free to continue discussing, course, if you prefer repeating yourself.
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I think it's done simply to make more money. Networks and film studios need good ideas for shows and movies, and what's easier than taking already successful and acclaimed works from a different country? Those works are adopted to be 'more relevant' to the culture viewers are familiar with: for example, the Office. The British version is great, however many American viewers may not get its cultural references or some of the British humor. Solution: remake as if it were happening in the US. Etc. Also some older American films get remade for similar reasons--sometimes more than once. Again, the goal is to get people to buy tickets, DVDs, and to increase viewer count for TV network. The safe and lazy way to do that is to use material that has proven to be successful in the past as well as marketing it as contemporary, with all new and 'relevant' actors.
By the way, I was surprised by the number of actual US shows and films broadcast on the British TV. But I can understand that the UK is smaller and doesn't have as high of a budget for remaking everything. Plus Europe is more accustomed to different cultures living side by side, whereas the American Way is to assimilate and adopt your old culture to the new one.
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Short answer: Hollywood is a business.
This. Can we lock the thread now? :blank:
If you can't have a reasonable discussion like the majority of other people then why bother participating in the thread in the first place?
There's nothing left to discuss...hence my previous post. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out either. You're free to continue discussing, course, if you prefer repeating yourself.
If there's nothing left to discuss then presumably the thread will die naturally, and not require being locked. Locking is reserved for threads which break the rules or become disruptive, which - aside from yourself - this thread has not. What I was actually questioning - and what you failed to answer - was what's the deal with your unwarranted hostility?
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please relax.
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Short answer: Hollywood is a business.
This. Can we lock the thread now? :blank:
If you can't have a reasonable discussion like the majority of other people then why bother participating in the thread in the first place?
There's nothing left to discuss...hence my previous post. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out either. You're free to continue discussing, course, if you prefer repeating yourself.
If there's nothing left to discuss then presumably the thread will die naturally, and not require being locked. Locking is reserved for threads which break the rules or become disruptive, which - aside from yourself - this thread has not. What I was actually questioning - and what you failed to answer - was what's the deal with your unwarranted hostility?
Yawn... It seems you have a low tolerance for what you perceive as "hostility". American movies are Americanized because Hollywood is located in America. What's there really to discuss? I've left my opinion, as short as it is. There's no need for you to escalate a simple statement.
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Also some older American films get remade for similar reasons--sometimes more than once.
Too true. For example, here's David Hasselhoff (don't hassle him) in StarCrash which is exactly like Star Wars, except it sucked and everyone in it had really nice shoes. It's just a blatant rip-off.
How useless could this thread be if it results in David Hasselhoff in a laser sword battle?
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Also some older American films get remade for similar reasons--sometimes more than once.
Too true. For example, here's David Hasselhoff (don't hassle him) in StarCrash which is exactly like Star Wars, except it sucked and everyone in it had really nice shoes. It's just a blatant rip-off.
How useless could this thread be if it results in David Hasselhoff in a laser sword battle?
WHY was the knightrider wearing eye shadow? :eek:
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You guys are way over-thinking this.
There is a very simply reason why Hollywood remakes successful foreign films: Laziness.
Oh wait and greed. And also there is American provincialism and xenophobia.
Put them all together and you get: 'Muricans hate foreigners and won't see "foreign" films. People who run Hollywood studios are too lazy to create new ideas. So they steal when they can, or license when they can't, foreign films for their own profit. They would just dub the foreign film, but Americans won't pay for a dubbed movie, so they have to remake the movie with American actors and set the movie in 'Murica. The worse the American adaptation shows how much more greed went into the mix.
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Short answer: Hollywood is a business.
This. Can we lock the thread now? :blank:
If you can't have a reasonable discussion like the majority of other people then why bother participating in the thread in the first place?
There's nothing left to discuss...hence my previous post. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out either. You're free to continue discussing, course, if you prefer repeating yourself.
If there's nothing left to discuss then presumably the thread will die naturally, and not require being locked. Locking is reserved for threads which break the rules or become disruptive, which - aside from yourself - this thread has not. What I was actually questioning - and what you failed to answer - was what's the deal with your unwarranted hostility?
Yawn... It seems you have a low tolerance for what you perceive as "hostility". American movies are Americanized because Hollywood is located in America. What's there really to discuss? I've left my opinion, as short as it is. There's no need for you to escalate a simple statement.
Well perhaps not hostility then and more "douchebaggery" then. Suggesting a thread should be locked (facetious or not) because you don't think it warrants discussion makes you a douchebag. Protip: Next time, perhaps make your statement without the "and now let's lock the thread already" snark, or don't post at all.
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this kitteh wants you to chill
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Short answer: Hollywood is a business.
This. Can we lock the thread now? :blank:
If you can't have a reasonable discussion like the majority of other people then why bother participating in the thread in the first place?
There's nothing left to discuss...hence my previous post. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out either. You're free to continue discussing, course, if you prefer repeating yourself.
If there's nothing left to discuss then presumably the thread will die naturally, and not require being locked. Locking is reserved for threads which break the rules or become disruptive, which - aside from yourself - this thread has not. What I was actually questioning - and what you failed to answer - was what's the deal with your unwarranted hostility?
Yawn... It seems you have a low tolerance for what you perceive as "hostility". American movies are Americanized because Hollywood is located in America. What's there really to discuss? I've left my opinion, as short as it is. There's no need for you to escalate a simple statement.
Well perhaps not hostility then and more "douchebaggery" then. Suggesting a thread should be locked (facetious or not) because you don't think it warrants discussion makes you a douchebag. Protip: Next time, perhaps make your statement without the "and now let's lock the thread already" snark, or don't post at all.
I rather not resort to name calling, so I'll just say that you're obnoxiously overreacting. There's a reason why I said "this" and /lock the thread because I rather not repeat what a few people have already said. If you perceive that as "snarky" and is a problem to you, then keep the insults to yourself. There's no reason to launch a foolish tirade.
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Short answer: Hollywood is a business.
This. Can we lock the thread now? :blank:
If you can't have a reasonable discussion like the majority of other people then why bother participating in the thread in the first place?
There's nothing left to discuss...hence my previous post. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out either. You're free to continue discussing, course, if you prefer repeating yourself.
If there's nothing left to discuss then presumably the thread will die naturally, and not require being locked. Locking is reserved for threads which break the rules or become disruptive, which - aside from yourself - this thread has not. What I was actually questioning - and what you failed to answer - was what's the deal with your unwarranted hostility?
Yawn... It seems you have a low tolerance for what you perceive as "hostility". American movies are Americanized because Hollywood is located in America. What's there really to discuss? I've left my opinion, as short as it is. There's no need for you to escalate a simple statement.
Well perhaps not hostility then and more "douchebaggery" then. Suggesting a thread should be locked (facetious or not) because you don't think it warrants discussion makes you a douchebag. Protip: Next time, perhaps make your statement without the "and now let's lock the thread already" snark, or don't post at all.
I rather not resort to name calling, so I'll just say that you're obnoxiously overreacting. There's a reason why I said "this" and /lock the thread because I rather not repeat what a few people have already said. If you perceive that as "snarky" and is a problem to you, then keep the insults to yourself. There's no reason to launch a foolish tirade.
So if the thread isn't locked, you'd have to repeat what people already said, as opposed to just, y'know, not doing that? I'm not really going out of my way to insult you, I'm just calling you out on your behaviour and the fact it's insulting is an unintended side-effect. If you didn't behave like a douche in the first place, you would have never have been in this position. You might think it's foolish, but I think it's interesting to see how people react when confronted over their Internet behaviour - backtracking, denial, dismissive attitude, passive-aggressiveness, etc. rather than back down or admit culpability.
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Short answer: Hollywood is a business.
This. Can we lock the thread now? :blank:
If you can't have a reasonable discussion like the majority of other people then why bother participating in the thread in the first place?
There's nothing left to discuss...hence my previous post. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out either. You're free to continue discussing, course, if you prefer repeating yourself.
If there's nothing left to discuss then presumably the thread will die naturally, and not require being locked. Locking is reserved for threads which break the rules or become disruptive, which - aside from yourself - this thread has not. What I was actually questioning - and what you failed to answer - was what's the deal with your unwarranted hostility?
Yawn... It seems you have a low tolerance for what you perceive as "hostility". American movies are Americanized because Hollywood is located in America. What's there really to discuss? I've left my opinion, as short as it is. There's no need for you to escalate a simple statement.
Well perhaps not hostility then and more "douchebaggery" then. Suggesting a thread should be locked (facetious or not) because you don't think it warrants discussion makes you a douchebag. Protip: Next time, perhaps make your statement without the "and now let's lock the thread already" snark, or don't post at all.
I rather not resort to name calling, so I'll just say that you're obnoxiously overreacting. There's a reason why I said "this" and /lock the thread because I rather not repeat what a few people have already said. If you perceive that as "snarky" and is a problem to you, then keep the insults to yourself. There's no reason to launch a foolish tirade.
So if the thread isn't locked, you'd have to repeat what people already said, as opposed to just, y'know, not doing that? I'm not really going out of my way to insult you, I'm just calling you out on your behaviour and the fact it's insulting is an unintended side-effect. If you didn't behave like a douche in the first place, you would have never have been in this position. You might think it's foolish, but I think it's interesting to see how people react when confronted over their Internet behaviour - backtracking, denial, dismissive attitude, passive-aggressiveness, etc. rather than back down or admit culpability.
I think it's interesting that you've decided to be argumentative today, so since you like to "call people out" on silly things. I guess I'll tell you what I think, Mr. Internet Police. You're pretty pathetic for giving so much care for such a silly thing that was posted half-heartedly. So here's my PROTIP to you, champ: go outside, get laid, stop insulting users when you feel offended for being such a pissy moron. If your attempt in "calling me out" was to keep the thread on topic, then you've clearly failed. Idiot.
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Short answer: Hollywood is a business.
This. Can we lock the thread now? :blank:
If you can't have a reasonable discussion like the majority of other people then why bother participating in the thread in the first place?
There's nothing left to discuss...hence my previous post. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out either. You're free to continue discussing, course, if you prefer repeating yourself.
If there's nothing left to discuss then presumably the thread will die naturally, and not require being locked. Locking is reserved for threads which break the rules or become disruptive, which - aside from yourself - this thread has not. What I was actually questioning - and what you failed to answer - was what's the deal with your unwarranted hostility?
Yawn... It seems you have a low tolerance for what you perceive as "hostility". American movies are Americanized because Hollywood is located in America. What's there really to discuss? I've left my opinion, as short as it is. There's no need for you to escalate a simple statement.
Well perhaps not hostility then and more "douchebaggery" then. Suggesting a thread should be locked (facetious or not) because you don't think it warrants discussion makes you a douchebag. Protip: Next time, perhaps make your statement without the "and now let's lock the thread already" snark, or don't post at all.
I rather not resort to name calling, so I'll just say that you're obnoxiously overreacting. There's a reason why I said "this" and /lock the thread because I rather not repeat what a few people have already said. If you perceive that as "snarky" and is a problem to you, then keep the insults to yourself. There's no reason to launch a foolish tirade.
So if the thread isn't locked, you'd have to repeat what people already said, as opposed to just, y'know, not doing that? I'm not really going out of my way to insult you, I'm just calling you out on your behaviour and the fact it's insulting is an unintended side-effect. If you didn't behave like a douche in the first place, you would have never have been in this position. You might think it's foolish, but I think it's interesting to see how people react when confronted over their Internet behaviour - backtracking, denial, dismissive attitude, passive-aggressiveness, etc. rather than back down or admit culpability.
I think it's interesting that you've decided to be argumentative today, so since you like to "call people out" on silly things. I guess I'll tell you what I think, Mr. Internet Police. You're pretty pathetic for giving so much care for such a silly thing that was posted half-heartedly. So here's my PROTIP to you, champ: go outside, get laid, stop insulting users when you feel offended for being such a pissy moron. If your attempt in "calling me out" was to keep the thread on topic, then you've clearly failed. Idiot.
Nice checklist of the most cliche weak ad hominems used on the Internet, a healthy dose of hypocrisy ("stop insulting users" followed by "pissy moron" and "idiot" in the same breath), and trying to suggest I'm the one that's worked up here when you're the one ranting while I've just been casually commenting on your antisocial behaviour throughout this thread.
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Anyone else have anything to say about the topic?
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Actually yes, I did make a couple on-topic posts in this thread at its outset and found it interesting until it was flooded with pithy remarks and "lock this thread" comments.
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This is something we've all seen. We saw ads and reviews of a movie from not America. The movie looks pretty good, from what you've seen.
Some time later, you discover a movie which looks strangely familiar - But holy ****, it's American! Fantastic! Now you can watch the... Same movie... ok...
Why does this happen? Why do movies get re-made or spun/ripped off to be more American? This isn't me bashing America, it's just that it's where all these unnecessary movie remakes get made.
The main reason... MONEY!
You CAN make money on YOUR version of it.
You CAN make MORE MONEY (than the original flick).
There's more to it... of course...
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The Office ...
BTW, The Office was remade in a lot of countries to account for cultural differences, not just in the USA.
Over here in Sweden, we get both the original UK "The Office", the US "The Office" and the Swedish "Kontoret". (Not that I'm watching any of them...)
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Ladies and gentlemen, Mr Conway Twitty
Don't tell me that Family Guy is an American remake too... ;)
The worst example of this would probably be the "Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" series. The originals were great, why remake them using American actors?
The originals had horribly stilted acting - like all Swedish movies. That's why I almost never watch Swedish movies.
The remakes were shot in the same location as the original, only with British (Daniel Craig, Christopher Plummer, Steven Berkoff) and 'huhmerican (Rooney Mara, Robin Wright-not-Penn, ) actors.
I have not seen the remake, because remakes almost always suck.
BTW, weird British and American accents are easier to understand with subtitles.
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Short answer: Hollywood is a business.
This. Can we lock the thread now? :blank:
If you can't have a reasonable discussion like the majority of other people then why bother participating in the thread in the first place?
There's nothing left to discuss...hence my previous post. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out either. You're free to continue discussing, course, if you prefer repeating yourself.
If there's nothing left to discuss then presumably the thread will die naturally, and not require being locked. Locking is reserved for threads which break the rules or become disruptive, which - aside from yourself - this thread has not. What I was actually questioning - and what you failed to answer - was what's the deal with your unwarranted hostility?
Yawn... It seems you have a low tolerance for what you perceive as "hostility". American movies are Americanized because Hollywood is located in America. What's there really to discuss? I've left my opinion, as short as it is. There's no need for you to escalate a simple statement.
Well perhaps not hostility then and more "douchebaggery" then. Suggesting a thread should be locked (facetious or not) because you don't think it warrants discussion makes you a douchebag. Protip: Next time, perhaps make your statement without the "and now let's lock the thread already" snark, or don't post at all.
I rather not resort to name calling, so I'll just say that you're obnoxiously overreacting. There's a reason why I said "this" and /lock the thread because I rather not repeat what a few people have already said. If you perceive that as "snarky" and is a problem to you, then keep the insults to yourself. There's no reason to launch a foolish tirade.
So if the thread isn't locked, you'd have to repeat what people already said, as opposed to just, y'know, not doing that? I'm not really going out of my way to insult you, I'm just calling you out on your behaviour and the fact it's insulting is an unintended side-effect. If you didn't behave like a douche in the first place, you would have never have been in this position. You might think it's foolish, but I think it's interesting to see how people react when confronted over their Internet behaviour - backtracking, denial, dismissive attitude, passive-aggressiveness, etc. rather than back down or admit culpability.
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"get laid"
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Why are many textbooks in America the Texas version?
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Gordon ramsay shows in the UK vs USA is just heiarious
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Money. Americans have the most.
You forgot you borrowed all that money from the Communist Chinese, so lets face the facts here :p .
Yeah... "borrowed"...
The majority of American debt is actually owned by the American people in the form of Treasury Bonds or T-Bills. China/foreign nations own nowhere near what the media blow it out to be.