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I'm a fan of b-movies, so let's discuss.
Off the top of my head, some that have to be seen to be believed:
Meet the Feebles - It's The Muppet Show, but addicted to meth, and straining grain alcohol through a burnt piece of toast in a back alley. Directed by Peter Jackson before he made the Lord of the Rings trilogy, which is astounding to me.
Gymkata - You're not a real b-movie fan until you've seen it. It's like The Running Man, except the willowy hero uses his gymnastic skills (!) to fight bad guys. You will never look at a pommel horse the same way, after seeing this one.
Yor: Hunter from the Future - This one's great because it's a blatant Conan ripoff, but instead of featuring Arnold, it features a bleached blonde caveman who is actually from space, battling papier mache dinosaurs.
Master of the Flying Guillotine - The title says it all.
So come on, share some b-movies.
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Evil dead 3: Army of Darkness
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World War Z
...oh wait I think I did that wrong.....
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my favorite b-movies are:
Batman
Brazil
and my favorite b-movie of all time is:
Bladerunner.
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The '80s were a great time for B-movies. :D
The White of the Eye - In a wealthy and isolated desert community, a sound expert (David Keith) is targeted as the prime suspect of a series of brutal murders of local suburban housewives who were attacked and mutilated in their homes. As he desperately tries to prove his innocence, his young wife starts to uncover mysteries of her own...
Electric Dreams - Lonely architect Miles (Lenny Von Dohlen) purchases a fancy new "Pine cone" personal computer and clumsily spills champagne on it which, of course, imbues the computer with human (or more than human) intelligence, prodigious musical talent and the voice of Bud Court. Also stars Virginia Madsen.
Cherry 2000 - When successful businessman Sam Treadwell finds that his android wife, Cherry model 2000 has blown a fuse, he hires sexy renegade tracker E. Johnson (Melanie Griffith) to find her exact duplicate.
Deadlock (Wedlock) - A male prison escapee (Rutger Hauer) heads for his hidden loot electronically attached to a female prisoner.
Equilibrium - In a Fascist future where all forms of feeling are illegal, a man in charge of enforcing the law (Christian Bale) rises to overthrow the system. Also stars Taye Diggs.
They Live - A drifter ("Rowdy" Roddy Piper) discovers a pair of sunglasses that allow him to wake up to the fact that aliens have taken over the Earth. Also stars Keith David.
The Wraith - Jamie (Charlie Sheen), killed by neighborhood thugs, returns as a mystical figure named Jake (The Wraith) to gain revenge.
Tailspin: Behind the Korean Airliner Tragedy - Chronicle of the shooting down of a Korean passenger plane by Soviet air force on 1st September 1983. Over 280 people died in this incident.
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i just downloaded brazil and bladerunner is a film i really like. just sayin'.
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i just downloaded brazil and bladerunner is a film i really like. just sayin'.
and they both begin with "b"!
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Cherry 2000 - When successful businessman Sam Treadwell finds that his android wife, Cherry model 2000 has blown a fuse, he hires sexy renegade tracker E. Johnson (Melanie Griffith) to find her exact duplicate.
The Wraith - Jamie (Charlie Sheen), killed by neighborhood thugs, returns as a mystical figure named Jake (The Wraith) to gain revenge.
^^ Did not realize those were b-movies.....something tells me I would think of them much differently watching them now versus when I originally saw them haha.
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also equilibrium a b-movie? really?
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I'm tempted to say Steven Seagal films in general, but calling them B-movies might be too kind.
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2019 After the Fall of New York
生化寿尸 (Biozombie)
Chopping Mall
Class of Nuke 'Em High
Electric Dragon 80000v
Freerunner
Garbage Pail Kids
Gene Generation
Gozu
Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers
M.A.R.K. 13
Maniac Cop trilogy
Motorama
Nemesis
Neon Maniacs
Night of the Comet
Not of this Earth (1988)
Oblivion and Oblivion:Backlash
Omega Doom
Prayer of the Rollerboys
Puppet Master series
Radioactive Dreams
Samurai Princess
Savage Streets
Sgt. Kabukiman NYPD
Slumberparty Massacre II
Solar Babies
Streets of Fire
Subway
The Revenant
The Shortcut
The Wizard of Gore (both!)
Timecop
Tokyo Gore Police
Toolbox Murders (2004)
Trancers series
Tykho Moon
Versus
Vibes
Well... I have LOADS of B movies because I totally love them. That is my shortlist... it's so hard to keep it small list :))
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Forgot a few:
Ghoulies - A young man and his girlfriend move into an man's old mansion home, where he becomes possessed by a need to control ancient demons.
The Ice Pirates - In the far future water is the most valuable substance. Two space pirates are captured, sold to a princess, and recruited to help her find her father who disappeared when he found information dangerous to the rulers. A real Space Opera with sword fights, explosions, fighting robots, monsters, bar fights and time warps.
Max Headroom - In the dystopic near future, a crusading TV reporter (Matt Frewer) investigates news stories with the help of a wisecracking computer version of himself.
Anna to the Infinite Power - Anna Hart was always an odd child, a genius, a shoplifter, desperately afraid of flickering lights, with strange prophetic dreams. Simultaneously, several strange things begin to happen. A strange, mysterious neighbor, by the name of MacKayla moves in next door to the Harts. And, most frightening of all, Anna sees her exact double on the television one night.
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Oops... I forgot 20 Minutes into the Future (Max Headroom movie) from my own list. It's far superior to the series. Definitely a cult classic.
I also forgot Street Trash and The Toxic Avenger!
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"Blastfighter" Best B-movie ever made.
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I guess I failed as a troll. My list of b-movies that begin with b rustled no jimmies.
Fine.
So here is the greatest b-movie of all time for reals:
Night of the Living Dead (1968) by George Romero.
Total budget was $110K. The actors were Romero's friends in Pittsburgh. Movie is set in the farm house that Romero rented for a few months. But with such humble beginnings this one b-movie launched an entire genre of zombie movies, books, comics and games. No other "monster movie" comes close. Except Gojira (Godzilla), I guess.
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Oops... I forgot 20 Minutes into the Future (Max Headroom movie) from my own list. It's far superior to the series. Definitely a cult classic.
That's the one I meant. Not the TV series. :)
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Also, the hilariously bad Shark Hunter.
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I guess I failed as a troll. My list of b-movies that begin with b rustled no jimmies.
that was too obvious.
also is "el mariachi" on the list of the b-movies?
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I guess I failed as a troll. My list of b-movies that begin with b rustled no jimmies.
that was too obvious.
also is "el mariachi" on the list of the b-movies?
If not, it should be! :D
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Evil dead 3: Army of Darkness
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Molly Ringwald!!!
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Ya'll seen SKINEMAX? Not a valid vimeo URL
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The Ice Pirates - In the far future water is the most valuable substance. Two space pirates are captured, sold to a princess, and recruited to help her find her father who disappeared when he found information dangerous to the rulers. A real Space Opera with sword fights, explosions, fighting robots, monsters, bar fights and time warps.
I love Ice Pirates -- it is a "space opera", sure, but it's a comedic opera. It features "space herpes" after all.
Anna to the Infinite Power - Anna Hart was always an odd child, a genius, a shoplifter, desperately afraid of flickering lights, with strange prophetic dreams. Simultaneously, several strange things begin to happen. A strange, mysterious neighbor, by the name of MacKayla moves in next door to the Harts. And, most frightening of all, Anna sees her exact double on the television one night.
Never heard of it! Will investigate further...
Class of Nuke 'Em High
I could just never get into any of the 'Troma stuff, not ever. *shrug* It's a classic, though, right up there with The Toxic Avenger.
Electric Dragon 80000v
Freerunner
Never heard of either one. Do you mean Freejack, perhaps? That's a good one I haven't seen in quite a while. Featuring Emilio Estevez as a racecar driver who, at the moment of his death in a racecar accident is whisked away into the future, in order to have his mind replaced by a dying billionaire (Anthony Hopkins!) who has put his mind into aleph-like device. Estevez is pursued by Mick Jagger, who basically just smirks a lot. Turns out the billionaire has the hots for Estevez' former wife (Rene Russo) so his getting a new body also means getting his wife, too. Feels more cyberpunk-y than Johnny Mnemonic.
Trancers series
YES. Go, go, Jack Deth. If I recall correctly, people spontaneously turn into zombies, LOL!
jd, Ivan, you have excellent taste in crap. :thumb:
Also, the legendary ending of MegaForce for your enjoyment.
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Nope I meant Freerunner... though Freejack is also a great movie.
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Looked through my movie collection for whether I had any. Only ones that come to mind are:
Antitrust (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0218817/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) - A computer programmer's dream job at a hot Portland-based firm turns nightmarish when he discovers his boss has a secret and ruthless means of dispatching anti-trust problems.
Boiler Room (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181984/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) - A college dropout gets a job as a broker for a suburban investment firm, which puts him on the fast track to success, but the job might not be as legitimate as it sounds.
Hackers (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113243/?ref_=nv_sr_1) - A young boy is arrested by the US Secret Service for writing a computer virus and is banned from using a computer until his 18th birthday. Years later, he and his new-found friends discover a plot to unleash a dangerous computer virus, but they must use their computer skills to find the evidence while being pursued by the Secret Service and the evil computer genius behind the virus.
Mind Hunters (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0297284/) - Trainees in the FBI's psychological profiling program must put their training into practice when they discover a killer in their midst.
Stomp the Yard (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0775539/?ref_=nv_sr_1) - After the death of his younger brother, a troubled 19-year-old street dancer from Los Angeles is able to bypass juvenile hall by enrolling in the historically black, Truth University in Atlanta, Georgia. But his efforts to get an education and woo the girl he likes are sidelined when he is courted by the top two campus fraternities, both of which want and need his fierce street-style dance moves to win the highly coveted national step show competition.
Will have to come back to this thread to maybe take a look at everyone's list.
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Alien
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Bounty Killer
Bunraku
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also equilibrium a b-movie? really?
Yes.
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Depends in what spirit you're taking the term. The likes of Equilibrium, Hackers, Alien might meet some technical definition of B-movie, as low(ish)-budget non-arthouse films. But I'd consider them too polished to not be classified as regular commericial, mainstream movies. To me, B-movie has connotations of an obscure or has-been cast, visibly low production values, bad special effects, etc.
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So many B movies I like... I'm going to throw just two recent ones.
Tucker Dale vs Evil
Grabbers
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And a Gift to B Movie Lovers
Plaga Zombie (Full lenght)
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my favorite b-movies are:
Batman
Brazil
and my favorite b-movie of all time is:
Bladerunner.
(http://i.imgur.com/9FGfVVI.png)
I've been laughing at this all day waiting to post it, don't take it srs
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also equilibrium a b-movie? really?
Yes.
I don't know if Equilibrium counts as a b-movie. It felt cheesy in parts, and it's a mashup of other films, but the production values were good, the acting was good, even the plot was interesting. I wouldn't think of it as a b-movie.
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I agree with the definition Malphas laid out for the most part. Though I did go against that a bit with a few in my list maybe they walk a fine line of being B movies and legit cult classics.
Equilibrium is definitely not a B movie, nor is Hackers, Bunraku, Alien, or Anti-Trust (it's simply not good). I would say Mind Hunters is debatable, it walks a fine line of being a legit movie. I would also argue against Army of Darkness, They Live and Tucker and Dale vs. Evil. I would say all but the original Evil Dead are legit horror films and not B movies. Tucker and Dale is a comedy film, and it's supposed to be like that intentionally. They Live... well it's just a cult classic.
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You guys have hit most of my favorites, but missed one: Big Trouble in Little China. This one skirts the b-movie/cult line, but Kurt Russel is just too cheesy to not like it. :thumb:
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I agree with the definition Malphas laid out for the most part. Though I did go against that a bit with a few in my list maybe they walk a fine line of being B movies and legit cult classics.
Equilibrium is definitely not a B movie, nor is Hackers, Bunraku, Alien, or Anti-Trust (it's simply not good). I would say Mind Hunters is debatable, it walks a fine line of being a legit movie. I would also argue against Army of Darkness, They Live and Tucker and Dale vs. Evil. I would say all but the original Evil Dead are legit horror films and not B movies. Tucker and Dale is a comedy film, and it's supposed to be like that intentionally. They Live... well it's just a cult classic.
Agreed. I think to be a real b-movie, the producers have to at least be trying to be taken seriously, or legitably incompetent. A film that's an homage to b-movies (The Skeleton of Cadavra or Tucker and Dale vs. Evil) aren't actually b-movies.
You guys have hit most of my favorites, but missed one: Big Trouble in Little China. This one skirts the b-movie/cult line, but Kurt Russel is just too cheesy to not like it. :thumb:
Big Trouble is more of a cult film. The cheesiness is done with great skill, so I wouldn't classify it as a b-movie. But then I think of Troma films, which seem to be poorly executed by design. Any other ideas on how to define a b-movie?
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Well people like Lloyd Kaufman, Charles Band and Albert Pyun (3 of my B movie KINGS) it's just how they do it, they make very good B movies. You could give them a AAA blockbuster budget, competent actors, every possible resource and it would probably still come out like a B movie.
I think one of the biggest things that makes B movies is the story. Either it's really original (which basically caused a major studio to refuse to touch it, so they had to go low budget to get it made at all) or it's so absurd that it's entertaining on an OMGLOLWTF basis.
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Does anyone here have a b-movie they want to see, but they haven't been able to find it? I'm still trying to get my hands on something called 'Zarkorr' -- it's about an alien race that sends a kaiju (godzilla-like giant monster) to judge whether Earth should be allowed to survive, or be destroyed. According to the rules, the aliens choose the statistically most average man alive (a postal clerk) to fight Zarkorr. As Ivan said, a good b-movie has a crazy idea that a major studio would never touch -- and I love the plot concept for this one.
I just haven't been able to track it down yet. Anyone else have a b-movie they're looking for?
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You guys have hit most of my favorites, but missed one: Big Trouble in Little China. This one skirts the b-movie/cult line, but Kurt Russel is just too cheesy to not like it. :thumb:
^^I don't know how they contained all the awesome in that one.
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You guys have hit most of my favorites, but missed one: Big Trouble in Little China. This one skirts the b-movie/cult line, but Kurt Russel is just too cheesy to not like it. :thumb:
^^I don't know how they contained all the awesome in that one.
Kurt Russell is so awesome in that -- he manages to maintain his WTF for the whole movie -- Chinese guys with lightning bolts all over them, Russell is still just ... WTF?. The idea of a truck driver as wandering anti-hero somehow just works. Too bad it never inspired a sequel. That movie also had all these character actors that you'd seen before, but hell if I know their names. It's also a playful sort of movie -- you can tell the people who made it had fun making it. It's got the same sort of vibe as the Rush Hour movies with Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker; it's not a Merchant Ivory production, and it's okay.
Hey, has anyone ever seen Remo Williams? It's a must watch, just to see "Chun", the very old Korean guy who is a master assassin. Also starring some guy named Fred Ward, LOL.
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Kurt Russell is the man! Great movie! The Thing is my favorite by him or Death Proof! Both probably are not b side though ha
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Kurt Russell is the man! Great movie! The Thing is my favorite by him or Death Proof! Both probably are not b side though ha
Nah, I wouldn't call The Thing a b-movie, or Death Proof, but I would call DP an homage to b-movies. How about 'Escape from New York'? I'm not sure I would call it a b-movie because it's well done, despite the low budget and low effects. But it's right on the edge, lol!
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You guys have hit most of my favorites, but missed one: Big Trouble in Little China. This one skirts the b-movie/cult line, but Kurt Russel is just too cheesy to not like it. :thumb:
^^I don't know how they contained all the awesome in that one.
Kurt Russell is so awesome in that -- he manages to maintain his WTF for the whole movie -- Chinese guys with lightning bolts all over them, Russell is still just ... WTF?. The idea of a truck driver as wandering anti-hero somehow just works. Too bad it never inspired a sequel. That movie also had all these character actors that you'd seen before, but hell if I know their names. It's also a playful sort of movie -- you can tell the people who made it had fun making it. It's got the same sort of vibe as the Rush Hour movies with Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker; it's not a Merchant Ivory production, and it's okay.
Hey, has anyone ever seen Remo Williams? It's a must watch, just to see "Chun", the very old Korean guy who is a master assassin. Also starring some guy named Fred Ward, LOL.
Remo Williams was awesome. Another movie that my family watches on a regular basis.
Kurt Russel in the old low budget films is just great. He has just the right amount of "I don't really care" to make the films feel a little more polished rather than over acted.
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I liked all the Evil Dead movies, Juan of the Dead, and I'm sure some others are slipping my mind right now.
My favorite "B" movie - Brick
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One of my favorites is Dead Alive.
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My Name is Bruce.
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One of my favorites is Dead Alive.
Father Kevin: "I KICK @SS FOR THE LORD!!!!"
Can't beat a movie with a Catholic priest fighting zombies with kung-fu.
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One of my favorites is Dead Alive.One of my favorites is Dead Alive.
Father Kevin: "I KICK @SS FOR THE LORD!!!!"
Can't beat a movie with a Catholic priest fighting zombies with kung-fu.
Hahaha I can hear his voice in my head!!
The lawn mower scene and the baby, classic!
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... which segues perfectly into my review of Jesus Christ, Vampire Hunter (http://buriedplanet.com/drupal/content/jesus-christ-vampire-hunter).
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Here is some more good stuff, mostly much older than in my first list...
The Satanic Rites of Dracula
The Karnstein Trilogy
The Legend of the 7 Golden Vampires
Shivers
Pink Flamingos
Reform School Girls
Suburbia
Driller Killer
Plan 9 From Outer Space
C'est arrive pres de chez vous
Vamp
Deathstalker
A Boy and His Dog
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes
I Spit on Your Grave
Dark Star
Hanzo the Razor
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Can any of these be considered B-movies?
Caveman
Barbarella
Saturn 3
Silent Running
Soylent Green
Logan's Run
Flash Gordon
Krull
Legend
Steel Dawn
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Oh God, I forgot John Waters films existed for a minute there.
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jd, I would consider most of those to be legit movies, though borderline. You certainly have to compare A to B based on their other contemporaries.
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Oh God, I forgot John Waters films existed for a minute there.
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One of my favorites is Dead Alive.One of my favorites is Dead Alive.
Father Kevin: "I KICK @SS FOR THE LORD!!!!"
Can't beat a movie with a Catholic priest fighting zombies with kung-fu.
Hahaha I can hear his voice in my head!!
The lawn mower scene and the baby, classic!
I made a ringtone of that one single line of dialogue. Had to.
Taking the baby for a walk in the park. SO funny.
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One of my favorites is Dead Alive.One of my favorites is Dead Alive.
haha no way! Thatd be an epic ring tone ;D
Father Kevin: "I KICK @SS FOR THE LORD!!!!"
Can't beat a movie with a Catholic priest fighting zombies with kung-fu.
Hahaha I can hear his voice in my head!!
The lawn mower scene and the baby, classic!
I made a ringtone of that one single line of dialogue. Had to.
Taking the baby for a walk in the park. SO funny.
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Can any of these be considered B-movies?
Caveman
Barbarella
Saturn 3
Silent Running
Soylent Green
Logan's Run
Flash Gordon
Krull
Legend
Steel Dawn
Barbarella - more of a cult movie, it's not really poorly done.
But Krull I would consider a b-movie, because although it's well-done (the spider effects were awesome) the plot puts it firmly in b-movie territory. But... well, then I guess I should reconsider Barbarella. Caveman is awesome because as a kid I completely misread the ending; no sadness, just bafflement, LOL! Flash Gordon I consider to be an homage (to itself?) and not a bad movie at all.
Anyway, what's more important to the designation of "b-movie" -- the nature of the plot ("a robotic John Saxon in a post-apocalyptic world...") or poor execution (bad special effects) or both? Legend, today, feels silly (plotwise) but the effects have actually held up remarkably well. I think most of those films are cult movies. Some of them might have lurid plots, but all were well-executed.