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Title: Mostly The War on Drugs, But Also Others...
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 20 November 2013, 19:36:06
This may be the best thing I have ever watched on YouTube.  If you are against the United State's war on drugs, I would advise watching this.  It is ****ing hilarious yet makes a very valid point.


Title: Re: The War on Drugs
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 20 November 2013, 19:40:47
"War on Drugs"

"War on Terror"

It is truly bizarre to "declare war" on inanimate objects and concepts.

Perhaps someone wants to be "against" something - fair enough - but a "declaration of war" is a very specific and clearly defined legal action.
Title: Re: The War on Drugs
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 20 November 2013, 19:45:50
War on Drugs -> Police state
War on Terror -> Surveillance state

"Rise of the Warrior Cop" by Radley Balco (Hope I spelled that right)
Title: Re: The War on Drugs
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 20 November 2013, 19:46:11
"War on Drugs"

"War on Terror"

It is truly bizarre to "declare war" on inanimate objects and concepts.

Perhaps someone wants to be "against" something - fair enough - but a "declaration of war" is a very specific and clearly defined legal action.

All the more proof that our government is run by a bunch of dumbasses...

But seriously, this video... if you don't have the time to watch it, jump to 1:13:00.  "Lincoln" makes a very good point...
Title: Re: The War on Drugs
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 20 November 2013, 19:50:55
I don't know how this has much to do with the American war on drugs..

But I think the drugs-issue is a non-issue..


If long-term use demonstrates debilitating problems.. the non-users will have a distinct and clear advantage.

Such is the case with tabacco..  non-smokers statistically earn more, live longer, etc...

So, over time.. the problem will solve itself.. people who have aspirations that demand less disruption in life-style would choose to not do-drugs..

Those who wish to fill less-intense roles in society can use drugs without ill-effect in performance since their task will be simpler..

Minor tweaks to the insurance system and we're done.






Title: Re: The War on Drugs
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 20 November 2013, 19:52:30
"War on Drugs"

"War on Terror"

It is truly bizarre to "declare war" on inanimate objects and concepts.

Perhaps someone wants to be "against" something - fair enough - but a "declaration of war" is a very specific and clearly defined legal action.

All the more proof that our government is run by a bunch of dumbasses...

But seriously, this video... if you don't have the time to watch it, jump to 1:13:00.  "Lincoln" makes a very good point...

It's not a bunch of dumb-asses..(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion_custom/th_aji.gif)

It's a collection of educated people who "together" become indecisive and dumb, due to ineffective political play system. (prisoner's dilemma)

Title: Re: The War on Drugs
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 20 November 2013, 19:52:42
So, over time.. the problem will solve itself..

Dumbest thing I've read today.  How long is that whole alcoholism thing going to take to solve itself?  5000 years and counting...
Title: Re: The War on Drugs
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 20 November 2013, 19:54:49
So, over time.. the problem will solve itself..

Dumbest thing I've read today.  How long is that whole alcoholism thing going to take to solve itself?  5000 years and counting...

the majority of people are not alcoholics....

There's no problem with sporadic usage.. (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/f529a952.gif)
Title: Re: The War on Drugs
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 20 November 2013, 20:15:03
Did any of you actually watch at least part of this video? I think it speaks for itself, much more than I could put into words...

Title: Re: The War on Drugs
Post by: Asininity on Wed, 20 November 2013, 20:22:26
So, over time.. the problem will solve itself..

Dumbest thing I've read today.  How long is that whole alcoholism thing going to take to solve itself?  5000 years and counting...

I would comment that regardless of legislation and enforcement of that legislation there will always be drug abusers. Whether the user is partaking in alcohol, heroine, or adrenaline rushes. It has become abundantly clear the the War on Drugs, both in the United States and elsewhere, has been a cataclysmic failure on every measure. Drug use is up across the board, recidivism is something like 66%, the cost is $88 billion a year, and that's not including the countless negative consequences directly associated with the War on Drugs.

So would I say that we have a drug problem? Sure, but believing that legislating against drug use will solve our problems is mislead and factually inaccurate. That's just the utilitarian point of view. I think it's morally wrong as well.

Anyways, just my two cents.

PS: Video was funny, I watched!

Title: Re: The War on Drugs
Post by: kmiller8 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 20:23:39
I miss WKUK, it was an amazing 5 seasons :(
Title: Re: The War on Drugs
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 20 November 2013, 20:24:08
Did any of you actually watch at least part of this video? I think it speaks for itself, much more than I could put into words...

I'm like 24 min into it. Pretty funny and makes a good point.
Title: Re: The War on Drugs
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 20 November 2013, 22:41:34
I'M GONNA GRAPE YOU IN THE MOUTH!
Title: Re: The War on Drugs
Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 20 November 2013, 22:45:51
War on Drugs -> Police state
War on Terror -> Surveillance state

"Rise of the Warrior Cop" by Radley Balco (Hope I spelled that right)

Don't forget

War on Poverty -> Welfare state
Title: Re: The War on Drugs
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 20 November 2013, 22:46:17
I'M GONNA GRAPE YOU IN THE MOUTH!

You and your amazon pot haha
Title: Re: The War on Drugs
Post by: iri on Thu, 21 November 2013, 01:18:56
War on Poverty -> Welfare state
yep.
Title: Re: Mostly The War on Drugs, But Also Others...
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 21 November 2013, 05:47:25
I'M GONNA GRAPE YOU IN THE MOUTH!

You and your amazon pot haha

Yeah noisy, this doesn't apply to you! Your state already legalized it! (you lucky ****).

Meanwhile, I have to wait until:

- My state legalizes it (unlikely)
- The feds legalize it (more unlikely)
- I turn 21 and take a road trip to Portland, Maine (which means I have to wait a full year or get a fake ID)
Title: Re: Mostly The War on Drugs, But Also Others...
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 November 2013, 06:36:48
I'M GONNA GRAPE YOU IN THE MOUTH!

You and your amazon pot haha

Yeah noisy, this doesn't apply to you! Your state already legalized it! (you lucky ****).

Meanwhile, I have to wait until:

- My state legalizes it (unlikely)
- The feds legalize it (more unlikely)
- I turn 21 and take a road trip to Portland, Maine (which means I have to wait a full year or get a fake ID)

Why do you have to be 21 to take a road trip?
Title: Re: Mostly The War on Drugs, But Also Others...
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 21 November 2013, 07:11:21
I'M GONNA GRAPE YOU IN THE MOUTH!

You and your amazon pot haha

Yeah noisy, this doesn't apply to you! Your state already legalized it! (you lucky ****).

Meanwhile, I have to wait until:

- My state legalizes it (unlikely)
- The feds legalize it (more unlikely)
- I turn 21 and take a road trip to Portland, Maine (which means I have to wait a full year or get a fake ID)

Why do you have to be 21 to take a road trip?

Not for the road trip, but to purchase the weed stuff one must be 21 (hence the fake ID comment).
Title: Re: Mostly The War on Drugs, But Also Others...
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 November 2013, 07:25:13
I'M GONNA GRAPE YOU IN THE MOUTH!

You and your amazon pot haha

Yeah noisy, this doesn't apply to you! Your state already legalized it! (you lucky ****).

Meanwhile, I have to wait until:

- My state legalizes it (unlikely)
- The feds legalize it (more unlikely)
- I turn 21 and take a road trip to Portland, Maine (which means I have to wait a full year or get a fake ID)

Why do you have to be 21 to take a road trip?

Not for the road trip, but to purchase the weed stuff one must be 21 (hence the fake ID comment).

Too early....moar coffee needed. ;)
Title: Re: Mostly The War on Drugs, But Also Others...
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 21 November 2013, 07:35:10
I'M GONNA GRAPE YOU IN THE MOUTH!

You and your amazon pot haha

Yeah noisy, this doesn't apply to you! Your state already legalized it! (you lucky ****).

Meanwhile, I have to wait until:

- My state legalizes it (unlikely)
- The feds legalize it (more unlikely)
- I turn 21 and take a road trip to Portland, Maine (which means I have to wait a full year or get a fake ID)

Why do you have to be 21 to take a road trip?

Not for the road trip, but to purchase the weed stuff one must be 21 (hence the fake ID comment).

Too early....moar coffee needed. ;)

+1. :thumb:
Title: Re: Mostly The War on Drugs, But Also Others...
Post by: IPT on Thu, 21 November 2013, 15:02:54
or just continue what you're doing now....
Title: Re: Mostly The War on Drugs, But Also Others...
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 21 November 2013, 15:05:37
or just continue what you're doing now....

But then I wouldn't have an excuse to go on a road trip!
Title: Re: Mostly The War on Drugs, But Also Others...
Post by: iri on Thu, 21 November 2013, 15:16:22
or just continue what you're doing now....

But then I wouldn't have an excuse to go on a road trip!
you need an excuse to go to washington?

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8369/8429935627_1c5f006667_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Mostly The War on Drugs, But Also Others...
Post by: quickcrx702 on Fri, 22 November 2013, 00:38:06
The part where Grant drank his own vomit was f'n great.  On a serious note, if America wanted to have a dumb war, it should be war on stupidity and gluttony, it kills a lot more people and hurts us much more as a society than the weed stuff- but then we would only have a few thousand people not incarcerated.