Some people are just faster, that's it. They're born like that. Of course, training and practice help, but only to certain extent.
When I was in high school, I was occasionally asked to go to a running competition... and I was always in the top 20 (out of 50–100), although I didn't have a coach or a training plan... I didn't even go running regularly.
On the other hand, I've never been able to get past 80 wpm (or 60 apm in SC:BW); I guess got past 50 wpm only thanks to switch to Colemak and symmetrical keyboards.
Not sure if this is the right subforum, but...
So, I type about 110-120wpm on average and noticed some extreme 10fastfinger scores on here.
Anyone who types 150wpm+ regularly? If so I'd be curious if you made some conscious effort to increase speed at some point, and if so, how did you go about it? My accuracy above 130wpm goes to hell.
Some people are just faster, that's it. They're born like that. Of course, training and practice help, but only to certain extent.
When I was in high school, I was occasionally asked to go to a running competition... and I was always in the top 20 (out of 50–100), although I didn't have a coach or a training plan... I didn't even go running regularly.
On the other hand, I've never been able to get past 80 wpm (or 60 apm in SC:BW); I guess got past 50 wpm only thanks to switch to Colemak and symmetrical keyboards.
I can pretty regularly knock out somewhere between 120-130WPM on the 10fastfingers test thing, even on my laptop.
It really boils down to luck of the draw in the words that are picked, and also if you mess up or not. For me, I get so thrown off when i make a mistake that it can really botch the whole attempt.
I have 200-225 APM in sc2 normally.
Not sure if this is the right subforum, but...
So, I type about 110-120wpm on average and noticed some extreme 10fastfinger scores on here.
Anyone who types 150wpm+ regularly? If so I'd be curious if you made some conscious effort to increase speed at some point, and if so, how did you go about it? My accuracy above 130wpm goes to hell.
It requires a lot of practice. I started my switch to Dvorak last November, with a forced month break due to not having a computer. I would say that on average I practiced for about an hour a day a day since then, practicing up to three hours sometimes when I learned. I started at about 90 wpm on Qwerty, and within three months, I reached 100 wpm on Dvorak.
Constant practice is required. I need to find my flow when I get to the higher 140's, which is mostly pressing the next key before I release the first one, like a wave.
I'm certain that given a few months more, I'll be typing 150+. But again, I'll be practicing a lot. I've been doing it in conjunction with fencing, which together really hurts my wrists and fingers, not helped by me using a floating wrist rather than resting. Just need to get good at visualizing and making the words in your mind before you finish typing them.Some people are just faster, that's it. They're born like that. Of course, training and practice help, but only to certain extent.
When I was in high school, I was occasionally asked to go to a running competition... and I was always in the top 20 (out of 50–100), although I didn't have a coach or a training plan... I didn't even go running regularly.
On the other hand, I've never been able to get past 80 wpm (or 60 apm in SC:BW); I guess got past 50 wpm only thanks to switch to Colemak and symmetrical keyboards.
I can pretty regularly knock out somewhere between 120-130WPM on the 10fastfingers test thing, even on my laptop.
It really boils down to luck of the draw in the words that are picked, and also if you mess up or not. For me, I get so thrown off when i make a mistake that it can really botch the whole attempt.
I have 200-225 APM in sc2 normally.
That's an issue which many people face. I've been getting rid of it somewhat, but you can't have it impact you. Just fix it or skip, you will make errors. My accuracy isn't particularly good, generally I get between 6-10 incorrect words out of 139+ correct. At 120-130, it was about getting faster. Now, I can type incredibly fast (finishing the first line usually in 3-4 seconds), but every error is a detraction because it interrupts the flow. So getting more perfect is important. I've typed at speeds of over 150, just today 160, but the errors prevented it from being better.
Also, I don't agree with davkol at all. People from all walks of life, all levels of intelligence, and all backgrounds can type extremely quickly. It's completely in the mind and only somewhat in the fingers. Once you keep on training your mind to recognize a word and bind your fingers to it, typing is easy.
Cool to see firsthand someone that you found Dvorak flat out faster once you got proficient at it. I'll probably never switch, unfortunately.
I did spend a few weeks trying to up my speed. Maybe banged out 160 a few times after getting heavily caffeinated, but it's absolutely not a speed I can sustain for anything longer than a few sentences.
Just curious - what does your practice regimen consist of? Are there any specific exercises or just doing the normal sequences of words/sentences/paragraphs?
All I can suggest is to relax and not try so hard to go fast. Relaxation and awareness seem to be paramount. Meditation helps for real.
Good info, thanks guys!All I can suggest is to relax and not try so hard to go fast. Relaxation and awareness seem to be paramount. Meditation helps for real.
For sure there's been times where I've mindlessly typed one out on typeracer and was surprised at the result. I find 10 fast fingers a lot more challenging because it's this sequence of random words - sometimes my reading lags behind my typing, whereas that isn't a problem for me on typeracer, even if the passages are more complex.
Yeah, it won't let you continue without correcting your errors.
Dvorak or Colemak can be great to pick up if it's the first time you're really bothering with touchtyping (like I was) or if you're having RSI troubles. Returns diminish as your existing QWERTY speed rises, though. I'd say you're not yet at the stage where it's pointless to switch, but don't expect a magic bullet either. It doesn't matter much in the end; this guy uses QWERTY: http://www.seanwrona.com/typeracer/profile.php?username=arenasnow2
http://hi-games.net/ is the other decent typing site where a lot of people play, if you're interested.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48685.msg1045945#msg1045945
Did a quick test there. The results were about the same, but differences become more apparent with longer periods of testing. The MX Blacks get tiring and I can't keep pushing them for very long before I start making errors due to fatigue. The blues end up giving no advantage over the Topres, plus the noise is annoying, so here I am using the Topres mostly. :P
I find I'm about 10-15wpm faster on scissor switch keyboards (laptops, new apple keyboards, etc.) Don't suppose you have one of those to try out also?
Have you modded your mechanicals with o-rings or have you trained yourself to type lightly enough that you don't bottom out anyways?
While browsing around, I saw this interesting video about a Japanese professional real-time subtitler at 330 Japanese characters per minute.
She uses a very interesting HOMEROW-ONLY keyboard used only by subtitlist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUiURlbopaA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUiURlbopaA)
Here's a close-up:
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It's a really interesting keyboard - the letters on home row have been rearranged out-of-order (I'm assuming in Japanese frequency order), backspace on left-pinky, return on right-pinky, (shift, tab, numerics) on top, two space bars for the thumbs.
I googled around for an equivalent keyboard for English and found this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velotype (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velotype)
DAMN! If I were just starting out, not knowing Qwerty, I just might go for that!
I wonder if there are any reduced-number-of-keys chording type keyboard out there for English.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velotype (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velotype)Velotype as disclosed in the patent has mappings for Dutch, English and German. The production version possibly handles more. The patent (https://www.google.com/patents/US4804279) is particularly interesting, as it features not only a detailed discussion of the layout and usage, but also has flowcharts and (pseudo) source code for the key mappings.
DAMN! If I were just starting out, not knowing Qwerty, I just might go for that!
I wonder if there are any reduced-number-of-keys chording type keyboard out there for English.
http://data.typeracer.com/pit/profile?user=ploversteno Some Typeracer results from Mirabai. As you can see, the results vary dramatically with the familiarity and simplicity of the matter, and almost always have terrible accuracy as the steno software has to alter the text that's initially entered in as more phonemes are added to form a word. However, it has the potential to reach intimidating speeds.
I do a lot better when I know know the words. If I'm reading a word that i don't immediately recognize, I begin to fumble. Also if I mess up, I get thrown off and continue to mess up.
My opinion?
Satisfy your Topre curiosity. You only live once!
All of my work is audio-transcription so I don't get a chance to pre-read (or hear) anything, so it's all "new" to me at first hearing. I can rattle along at the speed of normal speech which is anything from 150 to 180 wpm.
It's possible to create your own stenotype using your own abbreviations with WordPerfect word processing software.
http://proword-transcription.blogspot.com.au/
Although I've been using a Maltron since 1986, the WP stenotype will work with any keyboard the user is familiar with.
Here's a video of me transcribing an oral history interview. Most of my work was in court, where the recordings were much better, but this will give an idea of how it works.
Joe
Not sure if this is the right subforum, but...
So, I type about 110-120wpm on average and noticed some extreme 10fastfinger scores on here.
Anyone who types 150wpm+ regularly? If so I'd be curious if you made some conscious effort to increase speed at some point, and if so, how did you go about it? My accuracy above 130wpm goes to hell.
It's very hard to tell, because none of the typing testers allow me to use the steno. :)) However I can type at pretty much the same speed, it just takes a lot more effort.
It's very hard to tell, because none of the typing testers allow me to use the steno. :)) However I can type at pretty much the same speed, it just takes a lot more effort.
Wait, so like over 150 wpm without steno? :eek:
Proword's using Maltron, which has a different layout/ergonomics, and he's also using his very extensive shorthand/macro to type quickly, which is all fair game in my eyes!
On Edit: I've found that with audio transcription, the limiting factor for typing is usually the quality of the recording.
So does Mirabai using plover count?
imho, using (computer-assisted mapping + the grey matter between the ears) is even more impressive, because you are effectively breaking through the limitations of APM by distributing the work from your fingers to your brain (doing real-time mapping) - it's like breaking the 9600baud barrier by compressing and decompressing in real-time
but you can see it a different way if you like...
.. The difference is that steno is pressing less keys to produce more letters...
.. The difference is that steno is pressing less keys to produce more letters...
There are considerable differences between true steno and my WP shorthand. With steno, it's not just a matter of "pressing fewer keys". With steno the keys are pressed simultaneously, or chorded. With keyboard shorthand, the keystrokes are sequential. This means that physically the steno seems to be doing less work.
This video shows a stenotypist in action. It's in French, but you can still see the fingers pressing the keys simultaneously, rather than in my video, where they are sequential.
On the down side because steno was originally a machine shorthand based upon sounds (like Pitmans pen eg) rather than words, prior to computerisation, the output from the stenotype machineShow Image(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Steno-example.gif/350px-Steno-example.gif)
had to be translated into proper English or "scoped", usually by a specialist editor or "scopist".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopist
As you can see the text on the tape bore no resemblance to the final "expanded" text. This meant that the shorthand had to be "universal", as was pen-based shorthand, so that it could be translated by a third party, even years later. Thus in order to use steno there is literally years of study to acquire the skill (as well as costs of thousands of dollars), whereas with keyboard shorthand it's immediate (and free). The typist or WPO can add their own abbreviations in their own time, while still transcribing non-abbreviated text in full. Because the abbreviations are entered into the computer beforehand (which is now happening with stenotype) the translation is immediate and error free. The same principle is applied in SMS texting on mobile phones, except if I send a message to a friend, I have to assume that they will know what my abbreviations stand for, which can lead to no end of difficulty through misinterpretation. But those people who are adept at using SMS-type abbreviating should find keyboard shorthand quite easy.
I'm rather puzzled that you should find 150 wpm worthy of comment. I worked for many years in various court reporting firms and there were literally dozens of people who were typing at about that speed. None of them was using (my) shorthand, so they were typing everything in full, on QWERTY keyboards. It was how I started out until we shifted from HP Word software to WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS, which is where I began to really develop the shorthand, as well as bring my Maltron in.
In his post, Jack has pointed out that he was working at a ratio of 3:1. That means he takes three minutes to type one minute of audio. The world recognised standard is 4:1, so he's going pretty well. He also mentions "little need to research any terms". My contractual obligation, as I mentioned, is to be 99.9995% accurate. Most stenotypists, on my understanding, work to 97-98%. To obtain my level of accuracy I have to stop typing and search for information, whether it be the name of a street, a type of washing machine, a medical procedure or an illegal chemical substance. I have to be able to find this information quickly, because whilst I'm not typing, the clock is still ticking.
I was assigned to a forensic pathology office for 12 months, doing transcription of post mortem reports, which was 99% standard stuff, although each of the three doctors had their own individual way of describing. After a couple of weeks, by the judicious application of the functions of the word processor, I was able to enter 2-4 keystrokes, and have about 10-15 seconds of audio transcribed in under a second. This calculated out to be 3-4,000 wpm. But nevertheless I still had to listen to it all the way to check that the doctor hadn't said something out of the ordinary. I was able to research the correct spellings etc beforehand so that I was able to do a complete autopsy report in a few minutes.
My experience is that a slower typist who knows everything will do a better, faster, job than a speed freak who doesn't know anything and has to stop and find stuff out all the time or correct errors.
I actually agree with you, but unfortunately, you don't see it. The only difference is I'm just "stupid" for looking at this from a broader perspective.
That's right. Typing is also akin to using a "better tool" than transcribing by hand on paper or using a chisel and rock (although the latter may have more artistic value than typing on a keyboard).
Why not use a better tool when it is available or you are better able to use it?
I personally don't care if that tool is typing, talking into Siri, or using a machine which can read my mind and transcribe automagically. Whether using chorded or not, Colemak or Dvorak, or some other layout, it's all fine. Of course, customised keyboards or user-interfaces are fine.
This is why I'm particularly impressed by Proword's experience. He's part of a group of professionals who have been optimising for speed with the best tools that he can get his hands at the time it is available.
Heck, he has created his own methodology, and he's been doing this since DOS - that's really impressive! With his potential upside of 3-4,000 wpm, I doubt a normal person can reach that without attaching electrodes to one's head and cranking the time-machine 50 years? into the future.
If my livelihood depended on it or if I had the time to learn it, I would definitely look into learning his system.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us, Proword!
BTW, Proword do you have any insight into how to improve typing accuracy?
You have a special keyboard/layout, decades of experience, and a customised system, which all must help. But is there anything a normal person can do to improve in this area?
Your speed is already at a level beyond my comprehension, but your accuracy - just wow... ...I'm speechless. I'm going back to your website to reread your experience...
In fact, I'm quite envious of anyone who has the patience and persistence to generate such a long list of replacements for speed.
Not sure if this is the right subforum, but...
So, I type about 110-120wpm on average and noticed some extreme 10fastfinger scores on here.
Anyone who types 150wpm+ regularly? If so I'd be curious if you made some conscious effort to increase speed at some point, and if so, how did you go about it? My accuracy above 130wpm goes to hell.
And I'm watching this thread barely passing 40..... Well it's time for practice.
I call bull**** on 99% of the people who say they can do this throughout an entire work day and sustain those numbers.
The word "average" gets bandied about without being really understood. In another thread I wrote:
About 6 years ago I took an entire month's work, reduced it to straight text (no formatting, page breaks etc) and calculated that based upon an 8 hour day, and a 5 day week, with NO breaks of any sort, I was achieving [an average of] 23 wpm. And given that I was using the finished (ie proof read and corrected) copy it was virtually 100% accurate.
Speed for typing is not simply words/time, it's words/time typing.
Speed for typing is not simply words/time, it's words/time typing.
Thank you, that's exactly what I'm saying. To achieve that average of 23 wpm you would have to type at 23 wpm for 8 hours per day, 5 days per week, 4 weeks per month. As soon as you stop to go to have a coffee or lunch, or go to the toilet, you average speed would start dropping. Hence I would have to type at 180 wpm to make up for the time lost in the normal working day, such as answering the phone, starting a new job, proof reading etc.
. Productivity, as in words produced in a work day might be what you're talking about, but it has no bearing on what I'm talking about.
. Productivity, as in words produced in a work day might be what you're talking about, but it has no bearing on what I'm talking about.
You should come back to reality. When you leave high school and have to get a job, it's where the money comes from. You don't get paid to type at 150 wpm for a minute.
. Productivity, as in words produced in a work day might be what you're talking about, but it has no bearing on what I'm talking about.
You should come back to reality. When you leave high school and have to get a job, it's where the money comes from. You don't get paid to type at 150 wpm for a minute.
. Productivity, as in words produced in a work day might be what you're talking about, but it has no bearing on what I'm talking about.
You should come back to reality. When you leave high school and have to get a job, it's where the money comes from. You don't get paid to type at 150 wpm for a minute.
. Productivity, as in words produced in a work day might be what you're talking about, but it has no bearing on what I'm talking about.
You should come back to reality. When you leave high school and have to get a job, it's where the money comes from. You don't get paid to type at 150 wpm for a minute.
When did this discussion go anywhere near the topic of jobs?
I call bull**** on 99% of the people who say they can do this throughout an entire work day and sustain those numbers.
You should come back to reality. When you leave high school and have to get a job, it's where the money comes from. You don't get paid to type at 150 wpm for a minute.
... deciding to use your age as leverage is immature.
I also am a high-schooler, without much mnoey; I doubt that I could afford the ErgoDox, perhaps the TECK at most. I'd consider the ErgoDox, just tp4's stupidity has turned me off of the idea.
You should come back to reality. When you leave high school and have to get a job, it's where the money comes from. You don't get paid to type at 150 wpm for a minute.Quote... deciding to use your age as leverage is immature.
On 4 Oct 2013 you posted ...QuoteI also am a high-schooler, without much mnoey; I doubt that I could afford the ErgoDox, perhaps the TECK at most. I'd consider the ErgoDox, just tp4's stupidity has turned me off of the idea.
You wrote what you wrote.
Are different keyboards rated for different speeds?
Like car tires some are only rated to go so fast....I'd hate for someone to have a keyboard blow out or catch fire! :eek:
The breaks in logical conversation flow on this page are staggering :) People arguing on different points, often misunderstanding what the person before them had in mind ;)
This (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51264.msg1181914#msg1181914) in particular was especially mind boggling.
People arguing on different points, often misunderstanding what the person before them had in mindExactly
Yup.. it seems like he's trying to justify his slow-wpm by saying: "in a real job you would never need to type that fast"
QuotePeople arguing on different points, often misunderstanding what the person before them had in mindExactlyQuote
Yup.. it seems like he's trying to justify his slow-wpm by saying: "in a real job you would never need to type that fast"
If you read what I actually wrote, and not what you think I wrote, I said that I need to type at 180 wpm in order to achieve a daily average speed of 23 wpm. If you are able to achieve 23 wpm for 8 hours - without stopping keying for ANYTHING - I'd be very surprised indeed. I certainly couldn't type for 8 hours without stopping. My comment was about the lack of understanding of the concept of average typing speed.
Joe
But while they do type, their average WPM when typing will be a certain number.
Linkbane was talking about bursts of typing.
Are different keyboards rated for different speeds?
Like car tires some are only rated to go so fast....I'd hate for someone to have a keyboard blow out or catch fire! :eek:
No, you're all still missing it. Linkbane was talking about bursts of typing. So you sit down and put your hands onto your keyboard and begin typing an e-mail. Then you take your hands off and go for a cup of coffee. In the interval while you typed the e-mail, that would be the words per typing time, or actual speed. Averaged, because you might be doing that a number of times, to reply to 10 e-mails.
Nothing to do with age... nothing to do with justifying how many WPM an employer would be impressed with or not.
And maintaining WPM through work day clearly doesn't mean people type for 8 hours straight without even having a bathroom break. But while they do type, their average WPM when typing will be a certain number.
What I don't understand is how you reach your figure of an average speed. Is it just a guess? I certainly give my method of calculation for reaching my average speed of 23 wpm for 8 hours.
Joe
So you just guess. Thank you. That's all I need to know.
Joe
Linkbane was talking about bursts of typing.
So was I.
Linkbane was talking about bursts of typing.
So was I.
You were not. You were talking about averaged words per minute, taking into account long breaks of not typing (proofreading, coffee, whatever). We're only talking about your maximum maintained typing speed for continued typing intervals, like typing a long e-mail or copying a chapter someone is dictating to you.
But while they do type, their average WPM when typing will be a certain number.
On that logic, then I say I do bursts of up to 220-240 wpm from audio.
Joe
Linkbane was talking about bursts of typing.
So was I.
You were not. You were talking about effective words per minute, taking into account long breaks of not typing (proofreading, coffee, whatever). We're only talking about your maximum maintained typing speed for continued typing intervals, like typing a long e-mail or copying a chapter someone is dictating to you.
Please, this argument is getting very old and is really more about getting a last word in rather than bringing anything useful to the discussion of maximizing typing efficiency.
Linkbane was talking about bursts of typing.
So was I.
You were not. You were talking about effective words per minute, taking into account long breaks of not typing (proofreading, coffee, whatever). We're only talking about your maximum maintained typing speed for continued typing intervals, like typing a long e-mail or copying a chapter someone is dictating to you.
Please, this argument is getting very old and is really more about getting a last word in rather than bringing anything useful to the discussion of maximizing typing efficiency.
What I don't understand is how you reach your figure of an average speed. Is it just a guess? I certainly give my method of calculation for reaching my average speed of 23 wpm for 8 hours.
Joe
Isn't that special? I find my speed by using online tests, which usually work quite well. Otherwise if I truly feel like timing the amount of time it took for me to write something out, I could time myself to the second and have the word count divided by time in minutes. Nothing earth shattering in the slightest. Given that I do that very rarely, it's simple for me to determine my speed by feeling. I've done many, many tests so it's pretty ingrained that I can estimate my speed accurately within about 5 wpm.
What I don't understand is how you reach your figure of an average speed. Is it just a guess? I certainly give my method of calculation for reaching my average speed of 23 wpm for 8 hours.
Joe
Isn't that special? I find my speed by using online tests, which usually work quite well. Otherwise if I truly feel like timing the amount of time it took for me to write something out, I could time myself to the second and have the word count divided by time in minutes. Nothing earth shattering in the slightest. Given that I do that very rarely, it's simple for me to determine my speed by feeling. I've done many, many tests so it's pretty ingrained that I can estimate my speed accurately within about 5 wpm.
5 WPM? You might want to edit that.
I agree with the post though. You can test yourself for a minute, or write an essai, count your time, and divide the final word count with that time so you get an actual result, but that's not typing speed to it's max, it's thinking + creating + correcting. It's like Marathon versus sprint i guess lol
So are we still on type fast or you suck mode?
So are we still on type fast or you suck mode?
You pulled that out of nowhere. Stop.
So are we still on type fast or you suck mode?
You pulled that out of nowhere. Stop.
But isn't that the horse that is being beaten? It's a genuine question.
So are we still on type fast or you suck mode?
You pulled that out of nowhere. Stop.
But isn't that the horse that is being beaten? It's a genuine question.
I don't like large animals.. they smell terrible...
So are we still on type fast or you suck mode?
You pulled that out of nowhere. Stop.
But isn't that the horse that is being beaten? It's a genuine question.
I don't like large animals.. they smell terrible...
we had a drug test at work the other day and the testing people were talking about how at one place a guy tested and it smelled up the room, come to find out it was horse pee.
So are we still on type fast or you suck mode?
You pulled that out of nowhere. Stop.
But isn't that the horse that is being beaten? It's a genuine question.
I don't like large animals.. they smell terrible...
we had a drug test at work the other day and the testing people were talking about how at one place a guy tested and it smelled up the room, come to find out it was horse pee.
wha..... so was this a ranch work place, or did the guy partake in recreational drugs and bought horse-pee on the internet for just the occasion
I hit my max last night which was 105 WPM. I apparently average at 91 WPM. Not anything near as crazy as Sifo, but still not bad I think.
Going to repost because I've made some progress. I'm still not nearly as fast as Sifo on typeracer, but my 10FF tests tend to be the same or a little faster. My best is 158 as of a little while ago, and I usually can score one or 150s, depending on the day.
On typeracer, my average is somewhere around 120, with a best of 140 or so.
Going to repost because I've made some progress. I'm still not nearly as fast as Sifo on typeracer, but my 10FF tests tend to be the same or a little faster. My best is 158 as of a little while ago, and I usually can score one or 150s, depending on the day.
On typeracer, my average is somewhere around 120, with a best of 140 or so.
I knew you couldn't be 5WPM LOL!
158 is super fast man!
158 is super fast man!
158 is super fast man!
It's pretty average.
158 is super fast man!
It's pretty average.
If that's average, I'm on the slow wagon at my ~90WPM :(
158 is super fast man!
It's pretty average.
158 is super fast man!
It's pretty average.
Among all the keyboard speed-enthusiasts.. 120-130wpm (Tp4's speed)Show Image(http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/tuzki-bunnys/tuzki-bunny-emoticon-001.gif)is the average.. to go above it is dedication and elite status..
my speed is scrub speed...
the people < 120 are n00bs, because they've probably just started...
Among all the keyboard speed-enthusiasts.. 120-130wpm (Tp4's speed)Show Image(http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/tuzki-bunnys/tuzki-bunny-emoticon-001.gif)is the average.. to go above it is dedication and elite status..
my speed is scrub speed...
the people < 120 are n00bs, because they've probably just started...
Don't worry tp, we're still friends. :-*
That is a panda kissing Beaker
^^ needs moar gif