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Title: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: JWK on Sat, 23 November 2013, 23:18:45
The recent $500 sales seem to have stimulated supply.   Suddenly people are digging through their attics and the shelves in the garage, trying to remember where they put that SSK.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281212417894
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331070405043
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131054936015
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171180810057

Question is, how many $500 buyers are out there?  Has the market suddenly collapsed; the $350 BIN is sitting there, untouched.   Where will the new price point settle; six months ago, these rarely sold over $150. 

It's so exciting to watch economics at work.   
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: PointyFox on Sat, 23 November 2013, 23:24:07
Why do people want them so badly?
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: JWK on Sat, 23 November 2013, 23:24:59
This fellow is so excited at finding a SSK for $0.01 that he's already bid 5 times. 
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=171180810057

You can just feel the agony and inner turmoil....
"No, wait,... sombody might figure out that I've bid $11.75.  I'd better increase that to $17.25.... No, that's too easy to guess,.... I'll bid $41.67, nobody'll ever guess that.   Oh,... but somebody might bid $50 even.  So I'd better bid $51.50.  Oh, but I'll put in $57.34.  Yeah, that'll win it...."

Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: dante on Sat, 23 November 2013, 23:53:18
Quote from: PointyFox on Sat, 23 November 2013, 23:24:07
Why do people want them so badly?

because the numpad is in the way of the alcohol
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 24 November 2013, 01:12:00
Hehheh

Am a happy user of the Model M122 and F XT, and between them, I find no need for the SSK. I think SSK has a cool factor, but beyond that, is not superior to a Model F in key feel, or a Model M terminal in usability.

Portability? Hell, SSK is significantly heavier and bigger than a Filco TKL. And those professionals who do a lot of typing and moving around will prefer HHKBs.

SSK's the kind of keyboard I would buy at $150 for my collection, and would stay away at $250 and above. If you have so much money, buy a HHKB and customize it to the max and you would get something more mobile, equal in quality and key feel, and probably just as lasting.
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: tbc on Sun, 24 November 2013, 01:25:48
people like different switches?  what's new?
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 24 November 2013, 01:38:48
Quote from: JWK on Sat, 23 November 2013, 23:24:59
This fellow is so excited at finding a SSK for $0.01 that he's already bid 5 times. 
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=171180810057

You can just feel the agony and inner turmoil....
"No, wait,... sombody might figure out that I've bid $11.75.  I'd better increase that to $17.25.... No, that's too easy to guess,.... I'll bid $41.67, nobody'll ever guess that.   Oh,... but somebody might bid $50 even.  So I'd better bid $51.50.  Oh, but I'll put in $57.34.  Yeah, that'll win it...."

ANNDDDDDDDDDDD $250
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: 127001 on Sun, 24 November 2013, 11:20:34
Guys... Tinlong had 12 of them for sale for 160 a piece...
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: Sniping on Sun, 24 November 2013, 11:41:36
Quote from: 127001 on Sun, 24 November 2013, 11:20:34
Guys... Tinlong had 12 of them for sale for 160 a piece...

Did he have 12? I only saw 4 on the list and I PM'd him twice wanting to buy one....no response.
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 24 November 2013, 11:42:58
yeah, and because he priced them 10 bucks above my buy target, i didn't bite. heh!

oh well, it left me with more money to buy Tinlong's other amazing goodies!

Quote from: 127001 on Sun, 24 November 2013, 11:20:34
Guys... Tinlong had 12 of them for sale for 160 a piece...
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: Michael on Sun, 24 November 2013, 13:11:21
It boggles the mind why the BIN one for 350 isnt gone yet. It's clearly in better shape than some of the other ones...
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 24 November 2013, 14:16:22
Quote from: Bro Caps on Sun, 24 November 2013, 13:11:21
It boggles the mind why the BIN one for 350 isnt gone yet. It's clearly in better shape than some of the other ones...

I allowed myself to get caught up in a price war a couple of years ago. I wanted a Model F AT and my lust grew over a couple of months when none turned up on ebay. And, as later became obvious, there were a couple of others like me.

Finally, after this drought, a single specimen came up for sale every 2-3 weeks, and we bid them up into the $120-160 range, until about 4-5 had sold, and (presumably) we had each gotten one or more to have a really nice one for the collection.

Afterwards, supply opened up, and prices dropped back to the $80-100 range as usual.
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:25:45
actually, fohat, I was wondering if you could kindly educate us on your ebay experiences. You seem to have plenty both as a seller and a buyer.

I, too, am hardly any good when it comes to bidding. The best I can be is to be disciplined, so that I don't go overbudget. This does help keep me from bidding prices that I regret and have to beg my way out with the seller. But there are many times when I suspect I bid too low, and also times when I hesitated to click buy it now and some other people benefitted.

Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 24 November 2013, 14:16:22
Quote from: Bro Caps on Sun, 24 November 2013, 13:11:21
It boggles the mind why the BIN one for 350 isnt gone yet. It's clearly in better shape than some of the other ones...

I allowed myself to get caught up in a price war a couple of years ago. I wanted a Model F AT and my lust grew over a couple of months when none turned up on ebay. And, as later became obvious, there were a couple of others like me.

Finally, after this drought, a single specimen came up for sale every 2-3 weeks, and we bid them up into the $120-160 range, until about 4-5 had sold, and (presumably) we had each gotten one or more to have a really nice one for the collection.

Afterwards, supply opened up, and prices dropped back to the $80-100 range as usual.
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 24 November 2013, 16:10:14
Quote from: berserkfan on Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:25:45
actually, fohat, I was wondering if you could kindly educate us on your ebay experiences. You seem to have plenty both as a seller and a buyer.

I will make a new post here in great finds.
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: theMANtonio on Mon, 25 November 2013, 00:27:22
Quote from: Sniping on Sun, 24 November 2013, 11:41:36
Quote from: 127001 on Sun, 24 November 2013, 11:20:34
Guys... Tinlong had 12 of them for sale for 160 a piece...

Did he have 12? I only saw 4 on the list and I PM'd him twice wanting to buy one....no response.


Never got a response from Tinlong (probably cuz of my low post count lol).

Personally, I'd love to add one to my collection and I love the aesthetics of the board. I've seen a lot of hacked SSKs, but nothing compares to the original.
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: terran5992 on Mon, 25 November 2013, 00:37:39
Quote from: theMANtonio on Mon, 25 November 2013, 00:27:22
Quote from: Sniping on Sun, 24 November 2013, 11:41:36
Quote from: 127001 on Sun, 24 November 2013, 11:20:34
Guys... Tinlong had 12 of them for sale for 160 a piece...

Did he have 12? I only saw 4 on the list and I PM'd him twice wanting to buy one....no response.


Never got a response from Tinlong (probably cuz of my low post count lol). But no worries.. I think I found my way to some moderately priced SSKs.


Personally, I'd love to add one to my collection and I love the aesthetics of the board. I've seen a lot of hacked SSKs, but nothing compares to the original.

He replied to me . With one word 'lol'
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 25 November 2013, 02:50:42
Quote from: terran5992 on Mon, 25 November 2013, 00:37:39
Quote from: theMANtonio on Mon, 25 November 2013, 00:27:22
Quote from: Sniping on Sun, 24 November 2013, 11:41:36
Quote from: 127001 on Sun, 24 November 2013, 11:20:34
Guys... Tinlong had 12 of them for sale for 160 a piece...

Did he have 12? I only saw 4 on the list and I PM'd him twice wanting to buy one....no response.


Never got a response from Tinlong (probably cuz of my low post count lol). But no worries.. I think I found my way to some moderately priced SSKs.


Personally, I'd love to add one to my collection and I love the aesthetics of the board. I've seen a lot of hacked SSKs, but nothing compares to the original.

He replied to me . With one word 'lol'

Typical tinnie
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: tinlong117 on Mon, 25 November 2013, 03:22:56
It is time to use my monopoly power to drive the price up. ^_^

theMANtonio: the new lot hasnt arrived yet.

terran: (http://i.imgur.com/WkL2Zv2.png) Blame me for your stupidity.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 25 November 2013, 03:40:31
Quote from: tinlong117 on Mon, 25 November 2013, 03:22:56
It is time to use my monopoly power to drive the price up. ^_^

theMANtonio: the new lot hasnt arrived yet.

terran:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/WkL2Zv2.png)
Blame me for your stupidity.  :rolleyes:

to be fair tinnie this is GH not DT, don't think terran saw the post
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: tinlong117 on Mon, 25 November 2013, 03:51:23
Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 25 November 2013, 03:40:31
Quote from: tinlong117 on Mon, 25 November 2013, 03:22:56
It is time to use my monopoly power to drive the price up. ^_^

theMANtonio: the new lot hasnt arrived yet.

terran:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/WkL2Zv2.png)
Blame me for your stupidity.  :rolleyes:

to be fair tinnie this is GH not DT, don't think terran saw the post

BUT YOU STILL CANNOT BLAME ME FOR YOUR STUPIDITY. IT DOESNT MAKE ANY ****ING SENSE!

AND ONE MORE, I CAN JUST PUT THEM TO EBAY AND SELLING THEM FOR 250 USD+.
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 25 November 2013, 03:59:14
Quote from: tinlong117 on Mon, 25 November 2013, 03:51:23
Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 25 November 2013, 03:40:31
Quote from: tinlong117 on Mon, 25 November 2013, 03:22:56
It is time to use my monopoly power to drive the price up. ^_^

theMANtonio: the new lot hasnt arrived yet.

terran:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/WkL2Zv2.png)
Blame me for your stupidity.  :rolleyes:

to be fair tinnie this is GH not DT, don't think terran saw the post

BUT YOU STILL CANNOT BLAME ME FOR YOUR STUPIDITY. IT DOESNT MAKE ANY ****ING SENSE!

AND ONE MORE, I CAN JUST PUT THEM TO EBAY AND SELLING THEM FOR 250 USD+.

Now now tinnie, let's use our inside voices. Do you have model f for terran?
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: theMANtonio on Mon, 25 November 2013, 09:15:36
Quote from: tinlong117 on Mon, 25 November 2013, 03:22:56
It is time to use my monopoly power to drive the price up. ^_^

theMANtonio: the new lot hasnt arrived yet.

terran:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/WkL2Zv2.png)
Blame me for your stupidity.  ::)

Appreciate the reply  :thumb:
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: E TwentyNine on Mon, 25 November 2013, 09:48:28
Quote from: theMANtonio on Mon, 25 November 2013, 00:27:22
Personally, I'd love to add one to my collection and I love the aesthetics of the board. I've seen a lot of hacked SSKs, but nothing compares to the original.

There's little difference.   Nothing you'd notice day-to-day if you don't need numberpad.

I have a true SSK and two SMK's (Space modded keyboard? I'll think of a good acronym for a fullsize to SSK mod one of these days) and when I was using the SSK more the only reason I ever had to turn on the numpad was to enter extended characters via ALT-numpad, which was rare.

The feel is the same, I don't miss the numberpad layer.  The only diffference is the case is higher (same width), and I'm going to be looking into making a caseless mod at some point, making it slightly smaller than an SSK.
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: snoopy on Mon, 25 November 2013, 09:52:59
One of the factors I would always prefer a original ssk over a modded one (hacked from normal Model M) is the design. Everything looks perfect on the ssk, the geometry is perfect. I miss that on most of the modified ones.
Title: Re: 4 IBM SSKs on ebay - supply and demand
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 25 November 2013, 09:59:14
Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 25 November 2013, 03:59:14
Now now tinnie, let's use our inside voices.
stop talking like a condescending prick pls