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Title: PS2 to USB using Teensy?
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 24 November 2013, 01:07:06
I am getting a cherry g80-11900 NIB in the mail soon, and it uses a PS2 cable that breaks into a mouse and keyboard input. Is it possible to change the original controller and substitute it with a teensy? And if I do so, will the keyboard go from 2kro to a higher kro?

If that isn't possible, how can I get the keyboard to turn into a USB input, not a PS2 input?

Thanks!
Title: Re: PS2 to USB using Teensy?
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 24 November 2013, 01:12:20
It's stickied at the top of the Making Stuff Together forum. Soarer's XT/AT/PS2/Terminal to USB Converter with NKRO (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0)

And you won't get NKRO out of a board that doesn't have diodes for every switch, unfortunately.

/thread
Title: Re: PS2 to USB using Teensy?
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 24 November 2013, 01:13:15
It's stickied at the top of the Making Stuff Together forum. Soarer's XT/AT/PS2/Terminal to USB Converter with NKRO (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0)

And you won't get NKRO out of a board that doesn't have diodes for every switch, unfortunately.

/thread

Ah thanks jdcarpe!
Title: Re: PS2 to USB using Teensy?
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 24 November 2013, 01:16:17
It's stickied at the top of the Making Stuff Together forum. Soarer's XT/AT/PS2/Terminal to USB Converter with NKRO (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0)

And you won't get NKRO out of a board that doesn't have diodes for every switch, unfortunately.

/thread

Not /thread yet!
The KB in question has two PS/2 devices on it. A Kb and the touchpad (mouse). While you could replace the controller with a teensy and modify some code for it to accept both, it's much easier to just take in the PS2 signals and convert them to USB.

I stand by my recommendation to buy a PS2 to USB adapter and just use that. I suspect that combining the two signals to one PS/2 end may work with the ID innovations: if not you can always get two or use a combination KB/mouse one.
Title: Re: PS2 to USB using Teensy?
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 24 November 2013, 01:20:12
It's stickied at the top of the Making Stuff Together forum. Soarer's XT/AT/PS2/Terminal to USB Converter with NKRO (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0)

And you won't get NKRO out of a board that doesn't have diodes for every switch, unfortunately.

/thread

Not /thread yet!
The KB in question has two PS/2 devices on it. A Kb and the touchpad (mouse). While you could replace the controller with a teensy and modify some code for it to accept both, it's much easier to just take in the PS2 signals and convert them to USB.

I stand by my recommendation to buy a PS2 to USB adapter and just use that. I suspect that combining the two signals to one PS/2 end may work with the ID innovations: if not you can always get two or use a combination KB/mouse one.

Yeah, I had one of those combination keyboard/mouse PS/2-to-USB adapters I bought at Best Buy. I had success with older keyboards with it.
Title: Re: PS2 to USB using Teensy?
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 24 November 2013, 01:35:46
Any links to the products? I know I can get the ID inovations from mkawa, what about the other parts?
Title: Re: PS2 to USB using Teensy?
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 24 November 2013, 03:15:35
Any links to the products? I know I can get the ID inovations from mkawa, what about the other parts?

The belkin is well received, but the exact model number of the "good" one I don't know. All the other beldin ones are "okay". They have 2KRO and tend to "reset" sometimes, just like most of the other PS2 USB adapters.
here's one on eBay, no idea if it's the good belkin or not (probably not).
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261336013052

And here's a PS2 splitter that should work.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271268542069

Now, I suspect (but don't know for sure) that with a splitter, you can get both to work with the ID innovations, but the datasheet doesnt say and I won't know for sure until I try. I have used it with both a KB and a mouse.
Title: Re: PS2 to USB using Teensy?
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 24 November 2013, 04:46:49
Any links to the products? I know I can get the ID inovations from mkawa, what about the other parts?

The belkin is well received, but the exact model number of the "good" one I don't know. All the other beldin ones are "okay". They have 2KRO and tend to "reset" sometimes, just like most of the other PS2 USB adapters.
here's one on eBay, no idea if it's the good belkin or not (probably not).
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261336013052

And here's a PS2 splitter that should work.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271268542069

Now, I suspect (but don't know for sure) that with a splitter, you can get both to work with the ID innovations, but the datasheet doesnt say and I won't know for sure until I try. I have used it with both a KB and a mouse.

For the belkin, what do you mean by reset? If it does that, how long does it take before I have to do something to fix it?
Title: Re: PS2 to USB using Teensy?
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 24 November 2013, 04:52:19
Also, is this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Belkin-USB-to-PS-2-adapter-Cable-USBPS2-Converter-/180698733689

the old one that works the best? Its different from all the other black common ones. Only problem is it only works for windows up to vista, but that's most likely because 7 wasn't made yet. Is this item the best one to get?
Title: Re: PS2 to USB using Teensy?
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 24 November 2013, 05:11:14
For the belkin, what do you mean by reset? If it does that, how long does it take before I have to do something to fix it?

It's common in most PS2 to USB adapters (including the white one you linked above) they reconnect to, and reset the keyboard (the three lights will blink) and it wont respond for a few seconds.

I looked it up for you: the good belkin is a F5U119-E
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Belkin_F5U119
I have the E1 and they are nothing special.
Title: Re: PS2 to USB using Teensy?
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 24 November 2013, 05:15:19
For the belkin, what do you mean by reset? If it does that, how long does it take before I have to do something to fix it?

It's common in most PS2 to USB adapters (including the white one you linked above) they reconnect to, and reset the keyboard (the three lights will blink) and it wont respond for a few seconds.

I looked it up for you: the good belkin is a F5U119-E
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Belkin_F5U119
I have the E1 and they are nothing special.

http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F5U119-E-PS-USB-Adapter/dp/B0000A2QBI

1 left, should buy it tomorrow. Thanks for the help!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Belkin-F5U119E-PS2-to-USB-Adapter-Converter-Keyboard-Mouse-Barcode-Scanner-/270962163563

ebay with a bunch left and a bunch sold