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Title: Black Friday
Post by: AKIMbO on Thu, 28 November 2013, 09:28:15
....please let it be PBT with 7x space bar and 1.5 mods.  I will love sherry forever if it is.  :)
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: mm87 on Thu, 28 November 2013, 09:44:32
Based on the nubs on F and J that you can see on the preview pic I'd say they are PBT (winkeyless) from BSP indeed.
Will probably be without spacebar again tho :/
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: AKIMbO on Thu, 28 November 2013, 09:49:54
Based on the nubs on F and J that you can see on the preview pic I'd say they are PBT (winkeyless) from BSP indeed.
Will probably be without spacebar again tho :/

Sherry y u spite da spacebar!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: mm87 on Thu, 28 November 2013, 09:59:20
I really wonder why in hell does BSP not have the mold for a 7x spacebar to be able to offer complete sets...
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: moogle on Fri, 29 November 2013, 02:31:08
the sale is live!
http://www.originativeco.com/blogs/news/10438229-welcome-to-our-first-black-friday-sale (http://www.originativeco.com/blogs/news/10438229-welcome-to-our-first-black-friday-sale)
ordered a full black otaku set; mix of bsp, imsto, and gmk
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: t2russo on Fri, 29 November 2013, 02:53:04
Not knowing how the IMSTO winkey mods will match with BSP is giving me heart pains... I can pay 20 bucks more than Ivan's GB and have a product in hand before the GB order even closes, but I'd really hate to end up with a slightly two-tone set.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 November 2013, 03:36:47
 So there are only 30 sets?

 That's crazy low MOQ!
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 29 November 2013, 04:37:38
I don't like how it's in pieces. I'd rather have the product all together.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 November 2013, 04:41:19
I've been sitting here for two hours debating, I think I'm going to pass.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: daetsid on Fri, 29 November 2013, 06:27:38
Anyone willing to proxy to europe? I really want that black pbt set!!
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 29 November 2013, 07:27:41
So there are only 30 sets?

 That's crazy low MOQ!

The rest of the sets are staying with the manufacturer for dye sublimation.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 29 November 2013, 07:29:46
I don't like how it's in pieces. I'd rather have the product all together.

I'm going to refund customers who ordered altogether.

This is a better idea.  I forgot to add a full set.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: cruk on Fri, 29 November 2013, 09:00:28
Since the full set costs 75$, will i get the spacebar if i ordered the black otaku + winkey set ($75)?
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: korrelate on Fri, 29 November 2013, 09:57:42
I know this probably goes without saying, but I just wanted to be sure: are these Cherry Profile?

Cheers,

K
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: moogle on Fri, 29 November 2013, 10:21:40
yes; bsp, imsto, and gmk produce keycaps in cherry profile
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: kenmai9 on Fri, 29 November 2013, 11:05:16
Your sets are confusing. So which to buy for a regular ANSI board ? Do I have to buy Otaku+Winkey? Or full set? Idk man lol
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: phoenix1234 on Fri, 29 November 2013, 11:26:21
These have black on black dyesub ams it's not just black blanks?
I think Black Otaku = Blank Black.
As Sherry said, only 30 sets are blank and "The rest of the sets are staying with the manufacturer for dye sublimation."
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: kenmai9 on Fri, 29 November 2013, 11:29:04
These have black on black dyesub ams it's not just black blanks?
I think Black Otaku = Blank Black.
As Sherry said, only 30 sets are blank and "The rest of the sets are staying with the manufacturer for dye sublimation."


Errr then why mention real force caps that are black in grey dye sub?? If these are just blanks I will wait until it comes with dye sub or just continue with Ivan's GB.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: phoenix1234 on Fri, 29 November 2013, 11:36:18
Your sets are confusing. So which to buy for a regular ANSI board ? Do I have to buy Otaku+Winkey? Or full set? Idk man lol
I'm not speaking for Sherry but as I understand, the Black Otaku might contain 102 keys without space bar (it could be 100 keys without windows keys as RedLine GB but it would be very unlikely). If you buy the set for winkeyless board (like KMAC 2), you only need to buy an extra 7.0x space bar.

However, if you want to work with winkey board (like Filco) you need to buy the IMSTO Winkey set. It has 1.25x Modifiers, Center stemmed caps lock (not stepped, I suppose) and 6.25x Spacebar.


Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 29 November 2013, 11:45:17
Black Otaku = unprinted and will need the winkey to work with a ANSI125 layout and a spacebar to work with a ANSI150 layout.

Does that mean the fullset will be printed? Does that set include the winkey or spacebar? I ordered 2 of everything otaku (one of them is for someone else) but I want something that has the printed legends. I'm a bit confused...
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: t2russo on Fri, 29 November 2013, 11:56:28
My bet is that the full set will be like the current BSP dyesubs, no PBT space and only the stepped caps (I DON'T OWN ONE OF THESE SETS, GOING OFF THE WEBSITE).  Whateva though, I bought one of the wkl and the addon winkey sets.  Worst comes to worst I hate the set and buy Ivan's set, or if when the winkey mods come in in January and I can't stand the IMSTO part I can decide if I really need to hunt for a set of Das II keys for my otaku fix.  No lie though... I really wanna touch some nibs...
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: IPT on Mon, 30 December 2013, 12:08:19
sherry we got an ETA on this set?
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: t2russo on Sat, 04 January 2014, 21:28:43
Where are the keys?  I don't want "the color sample got messed up":  Are they still with BSP or does someone under the Originative company have them in the states, since Sheraton is off on holiday.  No more deadlines like January 1st which was complete BS and would never have been met.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:05:20
Where are the keys?  I don't want "the color sample got messed up":  Are they still with BSP or does someone under the Originative company have them in the states, since Sheraton is off on holiday.  No more deadlines like January 1st which was complete BS and would never have been met.

AFAIK sheraton is originative....
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: t2russo on Mon, 06 January 2014, 11:21:08
Where are the keys?  I don't want "the color sample got messed up":  Are they still with BSP or does someone under the Originative company have them in the states, since Sheraton is off on holiday.  No more deadlines like January 1st which was complete BS and would never have been met.

AFAIK sheraton is originative....

He collaborates with hazeluff and has other people pack with him in SoCal.  That is why I wanted to know where the keys are.  If he said in the updates post they were going to ship any day now while he's out of the country, I want to know if they are sitting stateside waiting on his return or if BSP is the holdup and no product has been delivered to anyone.  This is important because it would delay the IMSTO run for the winkey attachments, which might also possibly affect the R3 group buy since the winkey modifiers are coming from the same factory Ivan wants to use. 
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: t2russo on Sat, 01 March 2014, 11:22:44
As we hit March... We have no keys?
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 01 March 2014, 11:31:41
I'm glad I only ordered a couple spacebars.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: cgbuen on Sun, 02 March 2014, 03:26:03
Seriously, what's the deal?
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 03 March 2014, 15:59:23
I got the BSP part of the set. Now I just need the 1.25 mods and the spacebar....
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: t2russo on Mon, 03 March 2014, 19:39:09
!!! I think you're the only one so far?
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: IPT on Mon, 03 March 2014, 20:14:47
i replied to the email a month+ ago apologizing for the delay, but no response from him.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: cadgers on Wed, 05 March 2014, 09:46:43
Last email I got was on 1/28. Has anyone got any part of the set?
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: IPT on Wed, 05 March 2014, 10:26:01
wonder if i can still do a chargeback.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: t2russo on Wed, 05 March 2014, 19:41:32
wonder if i can still do a chargeback.

A lot of cards have a 120 day window, if you bought yours on the calendar day of November 29th you are 96 days into that period.  Also known as over three months of getting jerked around by the illustrious Sheraton Liv and Co.

Someone tell me again why Originative has a vendor forum? 
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 05 March 2014, 19:55:54
This whole thing is a real shame. If there's one thing I've learned about this community, it's that it can be exceptionally patient, but not without updates and communication. If he was having personal or business issues and was transparent about it, I'm sure everyone would understand.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 05 March 2014, 20:02:27
This whole thing is a real shame. If there's one thing I've learned about this community, it's that it can be exceptionally patient, but not without updates and communication. If he was having personal or business issues and was transparent about it, I'm sure everyone would understand.

It's not the first time sherry has went MIA.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: t2russo on Wed, 05 March 2014, 20:09:44
Ray is unfortunately right, I personally lost sight of "Fool me once..."

Honestly I really put faith into them because of the increased presence once the GMK kits started showing up and when Sherry was so strident about the kbdvintage BSP flap.  I figured him being so goddamn fixated on his exclusivity meant that he was actually paying attention this time.  BSP should have told him to pound sand and sold to whoever they wanted.  I really hope that Bunnylake or Ivan take over all GMK/BSP and alternative spring options start gaining traction, I don't think anyone on GH should be encouraged to give Originative a cent, nor should they have a vendor forum.  Originative seems to get absolved of all responsibility for being completely incompetent at delivering products complete or on time.  Sherryton is no longer the only source for KMAC kits, GMK, and springs like he was initially; his arrogance and lack of responsibility have finally outweighed his usefulness in my book.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 06 March 2014, 04:23:33
Ray is unfortunately right, I personally lost sight of "Fool me once..."

Originative seems to get absolved of all responsibility for being completely incompetent at delivering products complete or on time.  Sherryton is no longer the only source for KMAC kits, GMK, and springs like he was initially; his arrogance and lack of responsibility have finally outweighed his usefulness in my book.

It seems out the mouth of babes some truth shall arise  8) .  Let this be a message for everyone even thinking about handing over their money to this individual, you may never see it again, big risk in these times.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: t2russo on Tue, 11 March 2014, 20:50:26
People who have not gotten refunds should start getting things together for a chargeback.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 15 March 2014, 09:38:12
People who have not gotten refunds should start getting things together for a chargeback.

Just realized my stupid credit card only goes back 90 days :(


Last email I got was on 1/28. Has anyone got any part of the set?

I've only seen one post about anyone getting anything from this.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: korrelate on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:02:16
People who have not gotten refunds should start getting things together for a chargeback.

Roger that. If I don't hear anything soon I think this is the only option.
I'm thinking April 01: if I don't hear anything by then I'm reporting this to my credit card company.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Pyrelink on Sat, 29 March 2014, 20:23:17
So I don't post or even read a whole lot on Geekhack, but I have been following this thread. I got order 001 of the Black Friday keyset, and sent Sherry many emails. Never got much response at all, and in the end I just kept forgetting that I even had these things ordered. I got the shipping notification earlier this week, and I now have  the BSP part of the set in hand. I ordered everything in the set, so still have the modifiers and the space bar or what ever to wait on...