With its “MX RGB switch,” CHERRY is presenting the next evolutionary stage of its billion-fold proven mechanical keyswitches of the “MX” series. The MX switches with Gold Crosspoint technology have up to this point been appreciated by millions of users due to high precision, the best possible operating feel, and an extremely long service life. Well-known manufacturers of high-quality mechanical keyboards – especially in gaming – use the Cherry MX switches in different variants. Cherry has now enhanced its leading product with RGB technology. Directly mounted on the circuit board, SMD LEDs (SMD = “Surface Mount Devices”) illuminate key symbols in specially designed keycaps using the MX RGB switch in the entire RGB color spectrum – all 16.7 million RGB colors.
Whoever did the animation for that WASD cluster needs to be shot, the staggering is wayyyy off.
So... I assume the "innovation" here is clear switch cases, so the LEDs can be surface mounted to the PCB making manufacture cheaper.Mostly yes. But there is some microlensing involved so that might have taken some testing.
Or did I miss something?
So much that I have to make another postgf wont be happy. :P
I don't really understand the innovation behind this?Currently you can only add 3mm LEDs to switches which can only support 1 colour.
Well I know where they have that idea from... However that gives me the idea of an MX + Alps compatible PCB with SMD RGB LEDs. That could be cool.
The clear switch tops groupbuy?
The clear switch tops groupbuy?
Nope. Matias.Show Image(http://media.bestofmicro.com/3/W/398012/gallery/Matias-Mechanical-Switch-00_w_500.jpg)
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Why would they make it clear but not compatible with LEDs
Why would you like backlight? You can't type?
Why would you like backlight? You can't type?
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Why would they make it clear but not compatible with LEDs
But it is. It just uses SMD LEDs like these new Cherry MX RGBs:Show Image(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46060.0;attach=28995;image)Why would you like backlight? You can't type?
Opinion vs. opinion, taste vs. taste. Please no.
I don't really understand the innovation behind this?
Now that lots of us have paid tons of money to invest in 50-million actuation Cherry keyboards that we will never wear out in our lifetimes (since we all have multiple keyboards), we will pay even more tons of money to get these cool RGB switches.
Now that lots of us have paid tons of money to invest in 50-million actuation Cherry keyboards that we will never wear out in our lifetimes (since we all have multiple keyboards), we will pay even more tons of money to get these cool RGB switches.
Well they're kinda useless for the current boards, so we would need new keyboards as well...
Now that lots of us have paid tons of money to invest in 50-million actuation Cherry keyboards that we will never wear out in our lifetimes (since we all have multiple keyboards), we will pay even more tons of money to get these cool RGB switches.
Well they're kinda useless for the current boards, so we would need new keyboards as well...
lets just hope Corsair would make not-so-ugly keyboards with these RGBs. :))
Now that lots of us have paid tons of money to invest in 50-million actuation Cherry keyboards that we will never wear out in our lifetimes (since we all have multiple keyboards), we will pay even more tons of money to get these cool RGB switches.
Well they're kinda useless for the current boards, so we would need new keyboards as well...
Interesting that Corsair gets an exclusive deal on these even as other companies (eg. Tesoro, Luxeed) are working on their own RGB mech models. I guess those other companies must be using a different system (perhaps LETIS-style switch bypass).I wonder how long the exclusivity period will be.
If so, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the different RGB implementations compete.
Interesting that Corsair gets an exclusive deal on these even as other companies (eg. Tesoro, Luxeed) are working on their own RGB mech models. I guess those other companies must be using a different system (perhaps LETIS-style switch bypass).I wonder how long the exclusivity period will be.
If so, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the different RGB implementations compete.
I'd really like to see how Ducky would implement the use of MX RGB switches or what they will launch to compete against Corsair's offering.
Interesting that Corsair gets an exclusive deal on these even as other companies (eg. Tesoro, Luxeed) are working on their own RGB mech models. I guess those other companies must be using a different system (perhaps LETIS-style switch bypass).I wonder how long the exclusivity period will be.
If so, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the different RGB implementations compete.
I'd really like to see how Ducky would implement the use of MX RGB switches or what they will launch to compete against Corsair's offering.
A ducky board with these :eek:
I don't think my body can handle that.
I'll probably go into epileptic shock but it will be SHINETASTIC! :))Interesting that Corsair gets an exclusive deal on these even as other companies (eg. Tesoro, Luxeed) are working on their own RGB mech models. I guess those other companies must be using a different system (perhaps LETIS-style switch bypass).I wonder how long the exclusivity period will be.
If so, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the different RGB implementations compete.
I'd really like to see how Ducky would implement the use of MX RGB switches or what they will launch to compete against Corsair's offering.
A ducky board with these :eek:
I don't think my body can handle that.
Interesting that Corsair gets an exclusive deal on these even as other companies (eg. Tesoro, Luxeed) are working on their own RGB mech models. I guess those other companies must be using a different system (perhaps LETIS-style switch bypass).
If so, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the different RGB implementations compete.
Now that lots of us have paid tons of money to invest in 50-million actuation Cherry keyboards that we will never wear out in our lifetimes (since we all have multiple keyboards), we will pay even more tons of money to get these cool RGB switches.
Well they're kinda useless for the current boards, so we would need new keyboards as well...
Interesting that Corsair gets an exclusive deal on these even as other companies (eg. Tesoro, Luxeed) are working on their own RGB mech models. I guess those other companies must be using a different system (perhaps LETIS-style switch bypass).I wonder how long the exclusivity period will be.
If so, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the different RGB implementations compete.
I'd really like to see how Ducky would implement the use of MX RGB switches or what they will launch to compete against Corsair's offering.
nice looking website at least for Cherry with more about these switches http://www.cherry-professional-gaming.com/EN/ (http://www.cherry-professional-gaming.com/EN/)
nice looking website at least for Cherry with more about these switches http://www.cherry-professional-gaming.com/EN/ (http://www.cherry-professional-gaming.com/EN/)
That is very nice!
Also they should go all out and make transparent stems also....maybe a mix of a white/clear switch type.
And maybe they will come out with some double shot backlit keys that are nice.
nice looking website at least for Cherry with more about these switches http://www.cherry-professional-gaming.com/EN/ (http://www.cherry-professional-gaming.com/EN/)
That is very nice!
Also they should go all out and make transparent stems also....maybe a mix of a white/clear switch type.
And maybe they will come out with some double shot backlit keys that are nice.
Nice design but they left out the important details. If you look here http://www.cherry-professional-gaming.com/EN/technologie-en.html#/modules they just changed the color of each stem. No bump on browns and no clicker on MX blue.
nice looking website at least for Cherry with more about these switches http://www.cherry-professional-gaming.com/EN/ (http://www.cherry-professional-gaming.com/EN/)
That is very nice!
Also they should go all out and make transparent stems also....maybe a mix of a white/clear switch type.
And maybe they will come out with some double shot backlit keys that are nice.
Nice design but they left out the important details. If you look here http://www.cherry-professional-gaming.com/EN/technologie-en.html#/modules they just changed the color of each stem. No bump on browns and no clicker on MX blue.
What I don't follow?
Look closely at the stems, the MX Brown stem isn't the real Brown stem, just a recolored MX Red. Same with MX Blue.
Look closely at the stems, the MX Brown stem isn't the real Brown stem, just a recolored MX Red. Same with MX Blue.
It's just a graphic, they probably used the same 3D model and just changed the colors. Read through the descriptions of the switches. Do you really think they would just produce linears now?
I am aware that it is just a graphic. I only said they left out the important details.
Next, we can add sound reactive module and I can truly realize my Disco Inferno keyboard dreams!
Next, we can add sound reactive module and I can truly realize my Disco Inferno keyboard dreams!
Artificial click sounds pls.
I'm surprised they got it, they are not very popular boards, and I hope they don't goof the design, i'm sure we can all agree we want a standard keyboard and not another F117 looking thing like their K series
"CHERRY and CORSAIR – Partner for an exclusive joint launch of CHERRY MX RGB switches and keyboards in 2014" <=== this i hate, GO FILCO i mean order as much as u can and produce decent quality board with backlight
Interesting that Corsair gets an exclusive deal on these even as other companies (eg. Tesoro, Luxeed) are working on their own RGB mech models. I guess those other companies must be using a different system (perhaps LETIS-style switch bypass).
If so, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the different RGB implementations compete.
Please corsair make your RGB keyboard in standard ANSI layout without media keys. PLEASE.
Its an exciting announcement with more in place for CES so I can't say much at this time. However, any mechanical keyboards that will support RGB will *not* be Cherry MX switches.
What are you guys' input on the other types of mechanical switches?
I can't say much at this time. However, any mechanical keyboards that will support RGB will *not* be Cherry MX switches.Im just a noob here, so dont put much weight on my opinion. Id say that as long as the stems are mx compatible you should be okay. Just judging from the amount these communities spend on mx keycaps, I think that no one will buy your boards if they cant replace the caps. I dont think rgb will be enough of a feature to convince people to buy your product over your competitors. doubly so if the oem keykaps on your rgb boards are like the ones on my k95...
What are you guys' input on the other types of mechanical switches?
That sounds a bit of shock to me. I thought Cherry MX RGB was to be based on Cherry MX. Though I am generally open to fancy LED backlighting on other mechanical keyboards. So long as it is still a mechanical keyboard switch with LED backlight, I am not fussy if it was Topre, Matias, etc. I have seen a video of a fancy Korean branded keyboard with LED colours that could change "on-the-fly" so to speak. One could set certain keys to be certain colours however I was told that keyboard is not a mechanical keyboard.Interesting that Corsair gets an exclusive deal on these even as other companies (eg. Tesoro, Luxeed) are working on their own RGB mech models. I guess those other companies must be using a different system (perhaps LETIS-style switch bypass).
If so, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the different RGB implementations compete.
Its an exciting announcement with more in place for CES so I can't say much at this time. However, any mechanical keyboards that will support RGB will *not* be Cherry MX switches.
What are you guys' input on the other types of mechanical switches?
That sounds a bit of shock to me. I thought Cherry MX RGB was to be based on Cherry MX.Interesting that Corsair gets an exclusive deal on these even as other companies (eg. Tesoro, Luxeed) are working on their own RGB mech models. I guess those other companies must be using a different system (perhaps LETIS-style switch bypass).
If so, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the different RGB implementations compete.
Its an exciting announcement with more in place for CES so I can't say much at this time. However, any mechanical keyboards that will support RGB will *not* be Cherry MX switches.
What are you guys' input on the other types of mechanical switches?
Ahh ok, in that case I mis-interpreted that then. I stand corrected. It also doesn't make much sense as well thinking about it now considering that there is a teaser video on it.That sounds a bit of shock to me. I thought Cherry MX RGB was to be based on Cherry MX.Interesting that Corsair gets an exclusive deal on these even as other companies (eg. Tesoro, Luxeed) are working on their own RGB mech models. I guess those other companies must be using a different system (perhaps LETIS-style switch bypass).
If so, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the different RGB implementations compete.
Its an exciting announcement with more in place for CES so I can't say much at this time. However, any mechanical keyboards that will support RGB will *not* be Cherry MX switches.
What are you guys' input on the other types of mechanical switches?
I do believe he meant the other boards that support RGB. These are clearly Cherry-Made Cherry MX Keyswitches with slight housing modifications (like no holes for LEDs and different switch stems)
Ahh ok, in that case I mis-interpreted that then. I stand corrected. It also doesn't make much sense as well thinking about it now considering that there is a teaser video on it.That sounds a bit of shock to me. I thought Cherry MX RGB was to be based on Cherry MX.Interesting that Corsair gets an exclusive deal on these even as other companies (eg. Tesoro, Luxeed) are working on their own RGB mech models. I guess those other companies must be using a different system (perhaps LETIS-style switch bypass).
If so, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the different RGB implementations compete.
Its an exciting announcement with more in place for CES so I can't say much at this time. However, any mechanical keyboards that will support RGB will *not* be Cherry MX switches.
What are you guys' input on the other types of mechanical switches?
I do believe he meant the other boards that support RGB. These are clearly Cherry-Made Cherry MX Keyswitches with slight housing modifications (like no holes for LEDs and different switch stems)
I am not fussy if the RGB LED does not appear on other switches (even though I personally would love to have them available on my Topre board) but at the end of the day it will simply make my justification on purchasing a Cherry MX board more tantalising. In which for that case I will hold back my purchase for Cherry MX board until the RGB LED becomes:
- Cheaper.
- Available on more sets of keys rather than simply W, A, S, D.
- Programmable based on controller settings for specific layouts (however I am sure that is in theory somewhat easily implemented).
Possibly true, but only time will tell along with the price tag for instance. At this point in time one can only speculate what it maybe like. To me having 16.7 million colours via RGB SMD LED on all the keys would most likely weigh a hefty price tag.Ahh ok, in that case I mis-interpreted that then. I stand corrected. It also doesn't make much sense as well thinking about it now considering that there is a teaser video on it.That sounds a bit of shock to me. I thought Cherry MX RGB was to be based on Cherry MX.Interesting that Corsair gets an exclusive deal on these even as other companies (eg. Tesoro, Luxeed) are working on their own RGB mech models. I guess those other companies must be using a different system (perhaps LETIS-style switch bypass).
If so, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the different RGB implementations compete.
Its an exciting announcement with more in place for CES so I can't say much at this time. However, any mechanical keyboards that will support RGB will *not* be Cherry MX switches.
What are you guys' input on the other types of mechanical switches?
I do believe he meant the other boards that support RGB. These are clearly Cherry-Made Cherry MX Keyswitches with slight housing modifications (like no holes for LEDs and different switch stems)
I am not fussy if the RGB LED does not appear on other switches (even though I personally would love to have them available on my Topre board) but at the end of the day it will simply make my justification on purchasing a Cherry MX board more tantalising. In which for that case I will hold back my purchase for Cherry MX board until the RGB LED becomes:
- Cheaper.
- Available on more sets of keys rather than simply W, A, S, D.
- Programmable based on controller settings for specific layouts (however I am sure that is in theory somewhat easily implemented).
I'd assume it'd be full backlight.
I'm surprised they got it, they are not very popular boards, and I hope they don't goof the design, i'm sure we can all agree we want a standard keyboard and not another F117 looking thing like their K series
Probably because nobody else wants to pay them money for anything besides their switches.
I don't see what you have against the Corsair boards, they're great and look really nice in my opinion.
Interesting that Corsair gets an exclusive deal on these even as other companies (eg. Tesoro, Luxeed) are working on their own RGB mech models. I guess those other companies must be using a different system (perhaps LETIS-style switch bypass).
If so, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the different RGB implementations compete.
Its an exciting announcement with more in place for CES so I can't say much at this time. However, any mechanical keyboards that will support RGB will *not* be Cherry MX switches.
What are you guys' input on the other types of mechanical switches?
That sounds a bit of shock to me. I thought Cherry MX RGB was to be based on Cherry MX.Interesting that Corsair gets an exclusive deal on these even as other companies (eg. Tesoro, Luxeed) are working on their own RGB mech models. I guess those other companies must be using a different system (perhaps LETIS-style switch bypass).
If so, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the different RGB implementations compete.
Its an exciting announcement with more in place for CES so I can't say much at this time. However, any mechanical keyboards that will support RGB will *not* be Cherry MX switches.
What are you guys' input on the other types of mechanical switches?
I do believe he meant the other boards that support RGB. These are clearly Cherry-Made Cherry MX Keyswitches with slight housing modifications (like no holes for LEDs and different switch stems)
That sounds a bit of shock to me. I thought Cherry MX RGB was to be based on Cherry MX.Interesting that Corsair gets an exclusive deal on these even as other companies (eg. Tesoro, Luxeed) are working on their own RGB mech models. I guess those other companies must be using a different system (perhaps LETIS-style switch bypass).
If so, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the different RGB implementations compete.
Its an exciting announcement with more in place for CES so I can't say much at this time. However, any mechanical keyboards that will support RGB will *not* be Cherry MX switches.
What are you guys' input on the other types of mechanical switches?
I do believe he meant the other boards that support RGB. These are clearly Cherry-Made Cherry MX Keyswitches with slight housing modifications (like no holes for LEDs and different switch stems)
Sorry my mistake. Yes I meant any other keyboards that support RGB will not be using Cherry MX keyswitches. Only our RGB keyboards will use Cherry MX RGB.
Please corsair make your RGB keyboard in standard ANSI layout without media keys. PLEASE.
Can you explain why you don't like the media keys? I bring it up because its actually the most requested feature on the keyboard, especially volume control if nothing else. However, it's always good to get feedback from others who feel differently.
Why would you like backlight? You can't type?Show Image(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/UR21OB-8GXw/hqdefault.jpg)
Wow Corsair...really? Is anyone just extrememly mad right now?
Also, how would one control the lights? Software? If you were using a PS2 adapter, this RGB stuff wouldn't work with software would it?
Ducky seen this?
They could significantly reduce their keyboard range by including these and configuring the LEDs to all the different colours they make now.
Ducky seen this?
They could significantly reduce their keyboard range by including these and configuring the LEDs to all the different colours they make now.
It looks like Corsair has exclusive use of them for a year (til 2015), which makes me sad since Corsair keyboards often have non-standard mods, are expensive for their quality, and always seem to have one glaring flaw, be it dying LEDs, not being a full mech, and so on. Hopefully they actually churn out a good keyboard with this that isn't overpriced and isn't only a flashy gamer keyboard.
"CHERRY and CORSAIR – Partner for an exclusive joint launch of CHERRY MX RGB switches and keyboards in 2014" <=== this i hate, GO FILCO i mean order as much as u can and produce decent quality board with backlight
If Filco wished to provide Cherry with the money to make these, then they would. Not being inclined to help, they obviously have not.
People like you need to stop posting.
MOD EDIT: chill out, no need to be rude.
Ducky seen this?
They could significantly reduce their keyboard range by including these and configuring the LEDs to all the different colours they make now.
It looks like Corsair has exclusive use of them for a year (til 2015), which makes me sad since Corsair keyboards often have non-standard mods, are expensive for their quality, and always seem to have one glaring flaw, be it dying LEDs, not being a full mech, and so on. Hopefully they actually churn out a good keyboard with this that isn't overpriced and isn't only a flashy gamer keyboard.
SMD LEDs mean these cannot be salvaged from Corsair boards, right?
Interesting that Corsair gets an exclusive deal on these even as other companies (eg. Tesoro, Luxeed) are working on their own RGB mech models. I guess those other companies must be using a different system (perhaps LETIS-style switch bypass).I wonder how long the exclusivity period will be.
If so, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the different RGB implementations compete.
I'd really like to see how Ducky would implement the use of MX RGB switches or what they will launch to compete against Corsair's offering.
Can confirm from legit source that Corsair have exclusivity for 1 year - so no other brands can touch them until 2015.
Interesting that Corsair gets an exclusive deal on these even as other companies (eg. Tesoro, Luxeed) are working on their own RGB mech models. I guess those other companies must be using a different system (perhaps LETIS-style switch bypass).I wonder how long the exclusivity period will be.
If so, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the different RGB implementations compete.
I'd really like to see how Ducky would implement the use of MX RGB switches or what they will launch to compete against Corsair's offering.
Can confirm from legit source that Corsair have exclusivity for 1 year - so no other brands can touch them until 2015.
A year is rather short for exclusivity. Not complaining though. Would you know if the exclusivity period is renewable/extednable?
I wonder if Ducky will wait it out until expiry or try to come up with a competing solution.
"CHERRY and CORSAIR – Partner for an exclusive joint launch of CHERRY MX RGB switches and keyboards in 2014" <=== this i hate, GO FILCO i mean order as much as u can and produce decent quality board with backlightWell I think it's corsair since they build boards that have exposed switches. I would really buy a corsair board then. I left corsair for Ducky. And until Ducky does this I'll be buying corsair lol. Looks really cool, I already thought of opening my board up to change some LEDs to red.…
Wow Corsair...really? Is anyone just extrememly mad right now?
Also, how would one control the lights? Software? If you were using a PS2 adapter, this RGB stuff wouldn't work with software would it?
- Most keyboards these days are USB based.
- PS/2 might not even have enough power to a full LED backlit keyboard (according to wikipedia PS/2 is rated at 275 mA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS/2_connector) as opposed to say 0.5A to 0.9A (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB) for a general USB device).
- If lets say the keyboard were to be programmed via PS/2 even if in theory there is enough power for the keyboard to function even with full LED backlit, there might be ways through signalling. I am unsure if it is definitely possible or not but it should be in theory. Even if so why would anyone want to program it using PS/2? wouldn't it be hell lot better to just use USB instead seeing as how they are common as hell?
Our keyboards also use a standard font and we purposely did a raised key design to make it easy to clean and use.
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Some of the replies here do have me a little perplexed though. I believe our gaming keyboards are not the stereotypical "gamers" style boards at all. Yes it does have backlighting, and while there are those who are against it, I have grown to enjoy backlighting as an aesthetic (without it being a massive source of glare). Our keyboards also use a standard font and we purposely did a raised key design to make it easy to clean and use. Yes we do market it as a gaming keyboard but at the same time, it really isn't obnoxious.
Our keyboards also use a standard font and we purposely did a raised key design to make it easy to clean and use.
People aren't talking about the font or a the exposed switches, they're talking about the size of your keycaps. Many people like the ability to easily customize their keyboards with different key caps, especially since a majority of keyboards out there ship with such low quality keycaps. It's not uncommon for mechanical keyboard enthusiasts to get a new keyboard and all but throw away the caps that came with the keyboard.
Corsair keyboards make this difficult to do because you do not adhere to the industry standard for key cap size. Instead of 1.25x Ctrl, Alt, etc keys, you do 1.5x or other nonstandard sizes that make it more difficult and more expensive to put different key caps on. It seems like a small thing, but it's a huge deal to people who want different caps. Now I know Corsair does like to do proprietary tie ins, but key caps is not one of those places they should do something like that.
I know the other major issue I'm concerned about is your build quality and QC. I've known and seen tons of people who had to return multiple boards to get one that didn't wobble and that laid flat on their desk or that returned several due to the dying LEDs issue that's pretty common. If you're going to charge the prices you do, in league with names like Ducky and Filco, you need to get your QC better so that you're matching them in quality as well. I know I'd be incredibly hesitant to buy a Corsair keyboard, even with the interesting new RGB backlighting, because of Corsair's QC history.
i fail to see how the corsair boards differ from dell rubberdomes aside from the fact that the topplate is metal, not plastic, and the branding. it's a rectangle; we're not talking about something with a built-in LCD or the CM storm mech
everyone acts like the backlight can't be turned off.
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I guess the usb port + cable braiding is a dead giveaway?
This is a good post because it helps me understand what people think of our products. Why do you think our boards are no different than a Dell rubberdome, and why do you think the CM Storm Mech is better?
I bring this up because we've always advertised our keyboards being unique in full n-key rollover, 100% anti-ghosting, and 1ms response time (switchable to 8ms) which are all features you can't visibly see on the keyboard. My concern has always been whether people actually understood what this all means and that only true enthusiasts like you would know the significance of those features.
Just for my understanding, does the size of keycaps then dictate what makes it a "gaming keyboard" for you? As for industry standard, CM is the only major manufacturer (volume-wise) that does standard but I don't know if I would say its THE standard in the industry. I do agree that enthusiasts, especially in this community, would love the ability to change to customized keycaps. The problem though is always whether this feature is something a majority of users would want as costs is always the variable we try to keep low.
There are always going to be small issues now and then with our products and I wouldn't be the first to admit we're infallible. However, you have to keep in mind too that because we're a much larger manufacturer than Ducky/Filco or other enthusiast brands that complaints are going to be much more visible. I've always even in our own forums that even if we have a 99% success rate, the 1% can mean hundreds to thousands depending on the product we're selling (for example, our hydro coolers easily sell tens of thousands a month). I won't toot our horn and say we're the cheapest, but when you do buy a Corsair product, you get someone like me to support you (straight from HQ here in California and not a third party service) and ensure that regardless of whatever problem you have, we will make it right for you anywhere in the world. That service comes in addition to the product in your hands.
Just for my understanding, does the size of keycaps then dictate what makes it a "gaming keyboard" for you? As for industry standard, CM is the only major manufacturer (volume-wise) that does standard but I don't know if I would say its THE standard in the industry. I do agree that enthusiasts, especially in this community, would love the ability to change to customized keycaps. The problem though is always whether this feature is something a majority of users would want as costs is always the variable we try to keep low.
It is the standard for keycap sizes. Ducky, Deck, Filco, Cooler Master, Das Keyboard, KBTalking, Keycool, WASD, Rosewill/Code, and Cherry (for their modern boards) all use a standard keycap size for their modifiers. There are some brands that use non-standard sizes, but they're flashy "gamer" boards for the most part and aren't necessarily known for quality.
And replaceable keycaps are something that is very marketable, especially in many Asian countries with KBC, Keycool, and others are more readily available. If you guys didn't recognize the potential for keycaps, you wouldn't have created stuff like this (http://www.corsair.com/us/fps-backlit-key-caps-keycap-puller-and-palm-rest.html).
And, honestly, getting a more standard modifier keycap size shouldn't be a huge price increase, if any at all.There are always going to be small issues now and then with our products and I wouldn't be the first to admit we're infallible. However, you have to keep in mind too that because we're a much larger manufacturer than Ducky/Filco or other enthusiast brands that complaints are going to be much more visible. I've always even in our own forums that even if we have a 99% success rate, the 1% can mean hundreds to thousands depending on the product we're selling (for example, our hydro coolers easily sell tens of thousands a month). I won't toot our horn and say we're the cheapest, but when you do buy a Corsair product, you get someone like me to support you (straight from HQ here in California and not a third party service) and ensure that regardless of whatever problem you have, we will make it right for you anywhere in the world. That service comes in addition to the product in your hands.
I understand what you're saying, but I have to disagree. Even taking into account visibility, I have seen much higher rates of failures or issues with your keyboards than Ducky, Deck, Filco, and other brands known for quality. When the same people go through multiple boards to get a good one, that says something about the quality and says corners are being cut somewhere they shouldn't be.
Honestly, I like the look of the aluminum case. Not all the elements of the keyboard appeal to me, but the case is nice. The big issues keeping me away are the QC issues I see popping up frequently and the less common key cap sizes that make it so you can't use common replacement cap sets. Even on OCN some of the less keyboard nerdy people have expressed disappointment about your keyboards being pretty much impossible to easily get a new cap set for because of those modifiers.
This is a good post because it helps me understand what people think of our products. Why do you think our boards are no different than a Dell rubberdome, and why do you think the CM Storm Mech is better?
I bring this up because we've always advertised our keyboards being unique in full n-key rollover, 100% anti-ghosting, and 1ms response time (switchable to 8ms) which are all features you can't visibly see on the keyboard. My concern has always been whether people actually understood what this all means and that only true enthusiasts like you would know the significance of those features.
The biggest problem with Corsair's image was their first mech board with the "half-mech" at full-mech prices.
I think any time since then, people are just being short-sighted and refuse to accept change :rolleyes:
Personally, I really like the Corsair boards, the "exposed plate" type design I feel is absolutely gorgeous, and then that beautiful knurled volume knob...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1Hc4G2B.gif)
And then you guys one upped it with the black metal. If I ever had enough money to buy a board new full-price, it would probably have been one of those corsair boards.
But to each is own, everyone has different tastes.
i fail to see how the corsair boards differ from dell rubberdomes aside from the fact that the topplate is metal, not plastic, and the branding. it's a rectangle; we're not talking about something with a built-in LCD or the CM storm mech
everyone acts like the backlight can't be turned off.
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I guess the usb port + cable braiding is a dead giveaway?
This is a good post because it helps me understand what people think of our products. Why do you think our boards are no different than a Dell rubberdome, and why do you think the CM Storm Mech is better?
I bring this up because we've always advertised our keyboards being unique in full n-key rollover, 100% anti-ghosting, and 1ms response time (switchable to 8ms) which are all features you can't visibly see on the keyboard. My concern has always been whether people actually understood what this all means and that only true enthusiasts like you would know the significance of those features.
i fail to see how the corsair boards differ from dell rubberdomes aside from the fact that the topplate is metal, not plastic, and the branding. it's a rectangle; we're not talking about something with a built-in LCD or the CM storm mech
everyone acts like the backlight can't be turned off.
EDIT:
I guess the usb port + cable braiding is a dead giveaway?
This is a good post because it helps me understand what people think of our products. Why do you think our boards are no different than a Dell rubberdome, and why do you think the CM Storm Mech is better?
I bring this up because we've always advertised our keyboards being unique in full n-key rollover, 100% anti-ghosting, and 1ms response time (switchable to 8ms) which are all features you can't visibly see on the keyboard. My concern has always been whether people actually understood what this all means and that only true enthusiasts like you would know the significance of those features.
sorry for the confusion, my post was just trying to counter the argument that the k70 is too flashy for work.
just to be clear, I have alot of issues with corsair's mech boards that prevent me from being buying a corsair keyboard for myself (been very vocal about this). However, the design choices of the K series is absolutely outstanding and makes me keep considering it. That said, I HAVE bought a k70 for my brother and recommended it to other people as well.
When I say that it looks like a dell board, I mean that is looks generic from a DISTANCE (good thing for work). The corsair design is very apple-esque classy while still blending in. it blends in because it has a simple shape, basic color, and has no extra 'protrusions' such as a logitech LCD. therefore, if looking 'normal' is an issue, you can still have it anywhere a dell board is appropriate. it is when someone is USING the board that they will notice and appreciate the very real quality advantage that corsair has. end of the day, no one nosy will notice and the user will still be very happy.
i DO NOT like the cm storm mech design personally. this is just a matter of taste; i'm just saying that even if someone likes both the storm mech AND the corsair, at least they can feasibly bring the corsair to work (not a chance with the mech). manufacturers should stay classy as opposed to going flashy.
There is a lot of stuff behind the scenes I can't properly divulge but think of it this way: Have you ever played devil's advocate and ask why large volume manufacturers like Logitech and Razer would not use standard keycaps?
Corsair, you seem to be doing very good now. I kind of want a K70 with that RGB switch. BUT make the cable detachable please. I would really love that. Pretty sure most people will.
Is this thread about RGB switches or Corsair keyboards?
I'm confused.
Is this thread about RGB switches or Corsair keyboards?
I'm confused.
Another point I want to point out when talking about brand visibility is this. People are a lot more inclined to write a bad review on the off chance that they receive a bad product than write a good review even if the product preforms well above expectations.
Actually... 4leg RGB led can be used in current stock switch, just need to bend the leads appropriately so they feed through the led and diode holes in bottom housing. No reason it can't be done if PCB is designed for it.
Actually... 4leg RGB led can be used in current stock switch, just need to bend the leads appropriately so they feed through the led and diode holes in bottom housing. No reason it can't be done if PCB is designed for it.
TL;DR
Few first pics surfaced at CES2014
http://www.legitreviews.com/corsair-debuts-first-gaming-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-rgb-switches-ces-2014_132459
Actually... 4leg RGB led can be used in current stock switch, just need to bend the leads appropriately so they feed through the led and diode holes in bottom housing. No reason it can't be done if PCB is designed for it.
Except for the whole "5mm LED in a 3mm hole" thing I've considered trying to do just this fwiw.TL;DR
Few first pics surfaced at CES2014
http://www.legitreviews.com/corsair-debuts-first-gaming-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-rgb-switches-ces-2014_132459
Still nothing other than press pics. Nothing of the actual board in person.
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Much rainbow, much wow.Actually... 4leg RGB led can be used in current stock switch, just need to bend the leads appropriately so they feed through the led and diode holes in bottom housing. No reason it can't be done if PCB is designed for it.
Except for the whole "5mm LED in a 3mm hole" thing I've considered trying to do just this fwiw.TL;DR
Few first pics surfaced at CES2014
http://www.legitreviews.com/corsair-debuts-first-gaming-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-rgb-switches-ces-2014_132459
Still nothing other than press pics. Nothing of the actual board in person.
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Too much light leaking out around the base of the caps for me. I prefer a more subtle backlighting that allows me to see the legends of the caps more than the plate / switch bases.
If only ducky had access to these types of switches
Sure they would do a hell of a job
I hope this becomes an industry standard. I also hope this isn't going to inflate the price of the keyboard greatly because you could honestly achieve the same thing with some color changers if you had a white backlit keyboard.
I hope this becomes an industry standard. I also hope this isn't going to inflate the price of the keyboard greatly because you could honestly achieve the same thing with some color changers if you had a white backlit keyboard.
With the LED covers you can't change color on the fly, or have the range of colors possible with the SMT RGB's.
I know how popular TKL keyboards are here on geekhack. Therefore, while the RGB MX will be released as a full size keyboard, how many of you would be interested in a TKL version (for the moment, lets imagine a K65 with RGB keys)?
I know how popular TKL keyboards are here on geekhack. Therefore, while the RGB MX will be released as a full size keyboard, how many of you would be interested in a TKL version (for the moment, lets imagine a K65 with RGB keys)?
I know how popular TKL keyboards are here on geekhack. Therefore, while the RGB MX will be released as a full size keyboard, how many of you would be interested in a TKL version (for the moment, lets imagine a K65 with RGB keys)?
I know how popular TKL keyboards are here on geekhack. Therefore, while the RGB MX will be released as a full size keyboard, how many of you would be interested in a TKL version (for the moment, lets imagine a K65 with RGB keys)?
long shot and i know it wont happen but i'll ask anyway.
sell individual mx switches with clear housings!
i can't wait a year :(
i can't wait a year :(
Buy a Corsair board and harvest the switches.
7bit also has them on preorder.
I know how popular TKL keyboards are here on geekhack. Therefore, while the RGB MX will be released as a full size keyboard, how many of you would be interested in a TKL version (for the moment, lets imagine a K65 with RGB keys)?
Also, if someone have printed their own keycap symbols/legends earlier I would love to hear how you did it!
Check this out (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35873.0).
Wouldn't you need to harvest the PCB for leds?i can't wait a year :(
Buy a Corsair board and harvest the switches.
Wouldn't you need to harvest the PCB for leds?
Wouldn't you need to harvest the PCB for leds?i can't wait a year :(
Buy a Corsair board and harvest the switches.
Ducky needs this now....
I would love it if corsair didn't get rights to them for a year.
Cherry would make a whole lot more money.
From what little I understand, the switches - while cool - would lose a lot of their function without the stellar microcontroller .. ?
From what little I understand, the switches - while cool - would lose a lot of their function without the stellar microcontroller .. ?
Wat.
From what little I understand, the switches - while cool - would lose a lot of their function without the stellar microcontroller .. ?
Wat.
I believe what he is saying is you can't just put these switches on any board and get a fancy light show.
Yeah. Sorry it wasn't more clear. I seem to recall one of the videos mentioning that the Sony PCB/MC/[lingo] used in the board is more commonly used for controlling stadium displays / LED billboards.
Though I understand the reaction to the switches on their own; I think an integrated RBG LED in clear casing is just plain awesome.
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Yeah. Sorry it wasn't more clear. I seem to recall one of the videos mentioning that the Sony PCB/MC/[lingo] used in the board is more commonly used for controlling stadium displays / LED billboards.
Though I understand the reaction to the switches on their own; I think an integrated RBG LED in clear casing is just plain awesome.
It was my understanding that the LED's were not a part of the switch but a part of the PCB?
Yeah. Sorry it wasn't more clear. I seem to recall one of the videos mentioning that the Sony PCB/MC/[lingo] used in the board is more commonly used for controlling stadium displays / LED billboards.
Though I understand the reaction to the switches on their own; I think an integrated RBG LED in clear casing is just plain awesome.
It was my understanding that the LED's were not a part of the switch but a part of the PCB?
Oh I see. What is special about the switches then? I'm missing something here! Just the clear casing? That's pretty cool on its own, mind ...
Yeah. Sorry it wasn't more clear. I seem to recall one of the videos mentioning that the Sony PCB/MC/[lingo] used in the board is more commonly used for controlling stadium displays / LED billboards.
Though I understand the reaction to the switches on their own; I think an integrated RBG LED in clear casing is just plain awesome.
It was my understanding that the LED's were not a part of the switch but a part of the PCB?
a couple of youtube tech guys took a look at the board and said that the firmware should be flashable/customizable by the end user.
is this something that will void warranty?
if not, is it something that corsair will enthusiastically support? enthusiastically meaning that there will be an official 'store' to download user-made, corsair-made custom lighting firmwares
Yeah. Sorry it wasn't more clear. I seem to recall one of the videos mentioning that the Sony PCB/MC/[lingo] used in the board is more commonly used for controlling stadium displays / LED billboards.
Though I understand the reaction to the switches on their own; I think an integrated RBG LED in clear casing is just plain awesome.
It was my understanding that the LED's were not a part of the switch but a part of the PCB?
a couple of youtube tech guys took a look at the board and said that the firmware should be flashable/customizable by the end user.
is this something that will void warranty?
if not, is it something that corsair will enthusiastically support? enthusiastically meaning that there will be an official 'store' to download user-made, corsair-made custom lighting firmwares
We plan on making the software controls for the LED lighting to be open to the end user so they can design and implement their own lighting profiles. We want to make it as open as possible so people can use the lighting however they want, whether it be to match specific layouts for certain games or hotkey designation for different types of applications. :p